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:: In addition, it is common by Judges that their High Profile cases are included in their biography, especially those that made national headlines and became controversial. Take a look at the articles of these Judges where their 2-3 high profile cases dominate their articles: ], ] and ]. ] (]) 18:41, 8 April 2014 (UTC) | :: In addition, it is common by Judges that their High Profile cases are included in their biography, especially those that made national headlines and became controversial. Take a look at the articles of these Judges where their 2-3 high profile cases dominate their articles: ], ] and ]. ] (]) 18:41, 8 April 2014 (UTC) | ||
:::The article on Scheindlin is a really good example -- because it gives brief overviews of a range of cases. It's a useful contrast with the article on Byrne, which is exactly the sort of thing to avoid, with a long and detailed treatment of a single case. ] (]) 05:56, 9 April 2014 (UTC) |
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Section on Rubashkin trial
This section is getting to be too prominent here. Anyone who wants to write about the Rubashkin trial is advised to work on Sholom Rubashkin. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 05:57, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
Now under discussion here. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 14:04, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
Shortened it and fixed BLP and style issues Lower458 (talk) 00:31, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
Still fails BLP; see my response to your post on my talk page. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 00:37, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
Can you please FIX instead of deleting? You seem to know the rules better Lower458 (talk) 00:40, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
Question: Justice Reade's involvement in the Agriprocessors raid and the Rubashkin trial is something which was covered in many credible publications - This story is of great importance and interest to the Orthodox Jewish community, who claim that Mr. Rubashkin was treated unfairly and harshly by Justice Reade. I feel it belongs on her page. How would I structure an edit without violating BLP etc. Lower458 (talk) 14:29, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
- I think the key issue here would be to write a section on her rulings more generally, so that a discussion of Rubashkin did not falsely convey the impression that this is the only significant issue on which she has ever issued a ruling. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 17:44, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
Will try that soon, thanks Lower458 (talk) 04:42, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
It seems to me that the Rubashkin case is a major (the major?) part of her WP:NOTABILITY. I propose restoring the 'Controversy' paragraph which seemed to include a few well-sourced lines from major press accounts dealing with the case. Winchester2313 (talk) 06:55, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Rubashkin Case
Judge Reade's Ruling on the Rubashkin case which was a nationally high profile case should get more "coverage" on her biography page. From beginning, the case startled the Jewish communities, attracted national headlines and eventually created documentaries on the US justice system.
There were three main points expressed in the sources about Judge Reade: 1-Judge Reade's undisclosed 10 month involvement with prosecuters prior to trial. (We may never find out what was really discussed).
2- Judge Reade's lengthy 27 year sentence which exceeded prosecutors 25 year request (for a first time non violent crime).
3- The initial denial of bail (in part) on the basis that Rubashkin is "Jewish" and thus he is a flight risk to Israel.
Numerous Jewish groups claimed "Rubashkin’s prosecution was a product of anti-Semitism seem knee-jerk and unfounded."
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I agree with previous users, and I think we should add additional to the article.Caseeart(talk) 08:11, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
- There's no way this article is turning into a jeremiad against Reade. Perhaps it would make sense to write about the Postville case in context of writing about other cases she has decided. If that isn't possible or desirable, then perhaps another sentence about the Rubashkin case would work. But you can see in the history the kind of thing that's been tried (and rejected) in the past. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 05:33, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
- Obviously not to take over the article. However I think would be more than 1 line since this is not only about the Rubashkin case. We could focus on the responses her ruling received from high profile politicians and the and from active congress. To keep the article neutral - could include that 8th circuit Appeals held up the ruling.
- Do you know of other cases she presided on that made it to the news?
- In addition, it is common by Judges that their High Profile cases are included in their biography, especially those that made national headlines and became controversial. Take a look at the articles of these Judges where their 2-3 high profile cases dominate their articles: John Byrne (judge), Shira Scheindlin and James D. Whittemore. Caseeart (talk) 18:41, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
- The article on Scheindlin is a really good example -- because it gives brief overviews of a range of cases. It's a useful contrast with the article on Byrne, which is exactly the sort of thing to avoid, with a long and detailed treatment of a single case. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 05:56, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
- In addition, it is common by Judges that their High Profile cases are included in their biography, especially those that made national headlines and became controversial. Take a look at the articles of these Judges where their 2-3 high profile cases dominate their articles: John Byrne (judge), Shira Scheindlin and James D. Whittemore. Caseeart (talk) 18:41, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
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