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Re Rainbow Trout GAN

Mongo, thanks - my goal is to get the big four--rainbow, cutthroat, brown and brook trout articles up to GA status then start pushing for FAC. --Mike Cline (talk) 11:13, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

I won't step on tour toes with those as I did a bit with the Fort Yellowstone article...but will mention that keeping momentum is a good thing...one might take another of the articles you mention to GAC but return to the last one promoted to GA while the story is still fresh for the FAC push. Rainbow Trout is in excellent shape already...it's close to FA now.--MONGO 14:35, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Just requested Peer review on the Rainbow trout article. Am about ready with the Cutthroat trout article for a GA request. Hope you are having a good holiday. Thanks for all your support. --Mike Cline (talk) 15:00, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

I put the peer review on my watchlist.--MONGO 15:05, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Happy Holidays

User:Sportsguy17/Happy Holidays 2013

Thank you and hope the same for you as well!--MONGO 12:42, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

File an SPI

If you want to file an SPI on MilesMoney you are welcome to, but placing an accusatory template and category on his user page, and deleting his comments from another user's page is disruptive. Kindly stop it.- MrX 19:26, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

I can begin to see where you're coming from with the claim, but... I can't make a sockpuppet duck test judgement, I didn't know 24/7 that well. Looking back at his history isn't good enough.

Can you lay it out at an SPI or at least in better detail here?

Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 23:10, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

@MrX...you're right...but I thought the SPI was still open. The template however automagically adds the category to the page. Secondly, I can and will remove any harassment and trolling done by that user on Arthur's page.

@Georgewilliamherbert...a half dozen folks are working on the sock investigation offsite. The initial conclusion is that MilesMoney is StillStanding-247...who may also be a previous ban evader. If you want the details I can email them.--MONGO 23:55, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Email away; will keep them confidential on-wiki etc, and if I am convinced I'm willing to act. But ya gotta convince me. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 01:25, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

See ARBCOM SevenOfDiamonds...I don't need checkuser to track. I'll be a day or three before it's ready--MONGO 02:11, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

If we were to pick this up after xmas, it would not be a tragedy, I think. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 05:23, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

About 4 accounts all edit from the same place it seems...the checkusers want behavioral evidence and that just takes longer to put together. Its not like they showed up to work on articles about butterflies or a mountain....they're all just POV pushers on political articles and related areas. They are what makes the website suck...I prefer dealing with teenage vandals frankly. Least the kids that edit Pokeman articles are earnest and sincere.--MONGO 05:39, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

I like the sound of this discussion. Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays whatever fits! Best,--NK (talk) 13:29, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

I'm generally an exclusionist, especially in BLP's so when I see any editor arguing incessantly for the inclusion of negative junk in our bios, edit warring for such things and fighting everyone that disagrees with them, then it's obvious to me that we are dealing with someone that is incapable of working collaboratively on article improvement. In a way, wasting time tying to pin down which ban evader they are isn't necessary since we have the diffs that clearly show they need to be told to play elsewhere.--MONGO 17:57, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

• Old evidence from arbitration case on SevenOfDiamonds...aka NuclearUmpf, Zer0faults, SixOfDiamonds and others.

just parking above for no real reason...its rudimentary compared to what we can do now...

....yeah yeah right...those are the same lies the moron above said right before he was blocked....least SEVEN was smart enough to cover his tracks better but this fool is too stupid to know when to stop giving me multiple tells...

Best holiday gift in Misplaced Pages history!

Season's greetings from Santa and her little helpers

Wow...best holiday cheer in Misplaced Pages history! Thank your very much Jurassic critters!--MONGO 14:30, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Lookout! Stand clear when you open the box, Mr MONGO! darwin 01:07, 26 December 2013 (UTC).

Darwinbish! It's been many moons since you last posted here...MONGO like gifts...but MONGO is ah, somewhat perplexed by grin of Darwinbish...hum. oh well...probably fine...--MONGO 02:37, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

Hope Mr Bigfoot is fine! darwin 11:23, 26 December 2013 (UTC).

Whew...nah...my hair is a little frazzled but MONGO need haircut anyway...was starting to look like hippie MONGO. Great gift BTW...maybe give same one to JUMBO Wales?--MONGO 17:26, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

ooooooo.... pretty..... wait, Bad! Bad. That's it, Bad. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 22:43, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

Happy holiday season....

Thank you very much Cas! MONGO never have such a drink...must try but have to avoid glassware store afterwards due to probable tipsiness after effects.--MONGO 12:24, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Nadolig hapus

Martinevans123 wishes you and yours

"Nadolig Llawen a Blwyddyn Newydd Dda"

May the true spirit of Christmas bless you with warmth and peace ....

Merry Christmas to you as well! Hope you and your family have a relaxing holiday season.--MONGO 14:47, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Stalking

This false ANI report is stalking.

• It is redundant with a WP:3RRN report.
• Both contain a direct lie: they claim I said I violated 3RR; I made no such statement.
• I did not violate 3RR, but I did ask the page to be protected because of a flurry of reverts.

Do not lie about me. MilesMoney (talk) 18:53, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

• Feel free to file a case with the arbitration committee.--MONGO 00:00, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

Nah, that's your thing, not mine. Besides, the false report was properly closed, so I'm dropping this. MilesMoney (talk) 00:11, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

I really think you should file a case with the arbitration committee. It's not like we'll be the only ones at the dance...we'll have lots of company and you'll have maximum attention. I don't see how you can resist since you've apparently been stalked and are surrounded by liars...it's the best way to put a stop to the pain.--MONGO 00:15, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll take that under advisement. MilesMoney (talk) 00:19, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

Well, my advice may not be worth much, but since all these other editors are stalking you, and they're liars and they are interfereing with your ability to edit constructively, I think you need to put a stop to all the harassment you're having to put up with.--MONGO 00:29, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

I'll also take that under advisement. MilesMoney (talk) 00:33, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/MONGO 2...now all you have to do is make the redlink turn blue....you can consider it your first article start...here's a link to how to start a case.--MONGO 00:42, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

Possible opening statement for abrcom case...feel free to adapt or alter to suit your desires!

MONGO big bad meanie...he enterferrin with my afforts to edit constructionally...he stalking me and he is an liar two...somebloody pahweez help me get this big meanie off mah back!!!! I am an newby editer hear and I wants ot be a good Misplaced Pages editer but this Mongo mean person is makin me wanna up and quit. I shouldent haveta feel like I'm bein stalked on this webcite all the time having this persen going around and lying bout me all the time and all. Its enterferrin with mah sleep and I had diarehha this morning due to this big bad meanie. He has said I should be banned and all I have done is edit constructionally and I aint had no arugments or nothin yet this mean person wants me bannned just cause hes mean. He's the menest man I ever met anywheres ever. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MONGO (talk • contribs)

Not taking that under advisement, as it crosses the line into personal attack. Bad Mongo. Redact yourself. MilesMoney (talk) 01:08, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

NO..I refuse..you better file an arbitration case...I was just trying to help you out is all, since you think filing cases is my "thing". You don't have to copy my opening statement verbatim of course...you may have your own ideas about all this harassment and stalking and lying you're being subjected to. An editor with your contributions history should be respected, admired and set as an example for others to follow....not kicked to the curb like some darn troll.--MONGO 01:13, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

Hmm, troll. Interesting choice of words. MilesMoney (talk) 01:32, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

Exactly! well not really exact since troll is but one word, so its not really words unless we add something like obnoxious or something in front of it. How about, "not kicked to the curb like some darn obnoxious troll"???--MONGO 01:42, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

Are those socks of trolls or trolls with socks? Inclusionists would likely think they are trolls with socks. --DHeyward (talk) 05:02, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Trouble is with the sockmaster!--MONGO 05:45, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Happy New Year MONGO!

Midwinter fireworks up north

Cool picture! MONGO like fireworks...and these from just the other evening. Interesting time lapse deal too....thank you!--MONGO 14:57, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

your request for translation

"That man is less and less coherent as time progresses...I can't for the life of me understand anything about his latest rambling..." --MONGO 16:47, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Hail oh MONGO. *I* understand rambleze. <looks proud> If you were talking about the Great Jumbo, that is to say. Maybe the journalism-of-the-future stuff? Link?

  p.s. Actually, maybe you meant bishzilla when you said "his" ... not really sure zillas are gendered into just his-n-hers... and if so what exactly... uhhh nevermind. I don't translate roarrRRRRReze, so if that was who you meant to call monotonically-increasingly-incoherent, I stand aside. Can't watch....  ;-)   — 74.192.84.101 (talk) 20:28, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Mr Wales might mean well, but he's so distanced himself from the central issues that his proclamations don't make any sense. MONGO do best with short and to the point.--MONGO 14:36, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

MONGO, you got link to procklahmayshun? You give. I make short. With hatchet very pointy. Great Jumbo mean well always. Me know. Is called Soom Good Faith. p.s. What central issues? You mean like m:Special:CentralNotice or you mean deep thoughts like grand canyon? Danke. 74.192.84.101 (talk) 03:38, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

Hum...JUMBO not able to stand in shadow of MONGO...everybloody knows dat!!!!--MONGO 20:02, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

When animals edit articles on other animals can they be trusted to be neutral????

Well...this edit looks fine but it could be that a Sandhillcrane might not like Polar bears at all...we have to think like a Sandhill Crane to see what they were thinking when they made that edit...--MONGO 16:12, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

Congratulations!

I wish I had known that there had been such a thing as Mike Cline deserves the credit a heck of a lot more than I do. Thank you.--MONGO 02:19, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Austrian economics opened

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Peer review of Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution

I heard somewhere that you were offering to help fastrack a peer review of an article that might be ready to make the transition from GA to FA. We put in for a peer review on 4th amendment a while back, but no word so far.

If you have the time and the interest, would you take a look at it? I mostly work on getting articles from non-existant to stubs, so I'm not up on FA criteria. Your help most appreciated. --HectorMoffet (talk) 10:42, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

I might be able to do some minor stuff if it goes to FAC.--MONGO 16:03, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

I've now submitted it to FAC. --HectorMoffet (talk) 13:05, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

A hand-typed thank you

Hi MONGO, thank you for your support for me on my RfB, but thank you more so for the kind words and trust you showed here. I'm glad that I never let you (or anyone else, it seems) down when you supported my second RfA and I hope to do the same as a bureaucrat. Thank you. :) Acalamari 10:00, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Was my pleasure to support.--MONGO 14:52, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

"Vandalism"

Reverting an edit that is a textbook violation of WP:CITECONSENSUS is not "vandalism". Good day.—indopug (talk) 12:20, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

There is nothing textbook about it...he converted the page to templated cites, you reverted it, I reverted you then you reverted me for some stupid reason...looks like consensus is against you. Though not mandatory, the article has a much better chance of becoming featured if it uses a more organized citation style so I have no idea what your reverts could be except vandalism.--MONGO 14:22, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

I am not seeing any wiki-kittens on your talk page, let me rectify that. More seriously, thank you for your recent Wildlife Refuge-related edits, nice job. Cheers!

_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 13:33, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank you very much....kittens always welcome here!--MONGO 14:55, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

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Support

Just noticed this renewal of our vows, lol. Thank'ee, Bigfoot! Everybody should support so many times! darwinbish ☠ 21:01, 18 February 2014 (UTC).

Some critters are exempt from that silly 7-day stuff.--MONGO 12:21, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

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Cutthroat trout peer review

Mongo: go for it: Misplaced Pages:Peer review/Cutthroat trout/archive1 --Mike Cline (talk) 22:37, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

Sure but will likely be at least two days before I can look it all over.--MONGO 12:17, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Re recent change from "lumped" to "combined". In taxonomy there are two schools--the lumpers and the splitters. But your change is OK. --Mike Cline (talk) 17:54, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

We can switch it back....MONGO just kind of going back and forth on the article trying to find best wording...--MONGO 18:22, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

User: Beingsshepherd

Hello Mongo, You may be interested to read the above "users" comments on my Talk page. Best regards, David J Johnson (talk) 22:56, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

"Rouge nations?" Is that when Kim Jong Il was wearing too much makeup? Acroterion (talk) 01:40, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Yes, and hopping around in his jumpsuits etc.--MONGO 01:42, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Reknowned

Please read other peoples edit summaries, and stop re-introducing the same spelling mistake at Mount Hooker (Wyoming)

There is no such word as reknowned, and ssuming you mean "renowned", that is considered a "peacock" term, the use of which is deprecated in WP:PEA. - Arjayay (talk) 15:02, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Hey...thanks for bringing that to my attention...the guy is a renowned rock climber whether you like it or not and it doesn't need a cite saying just that as common sense and the article we have on the climber make it fucking obvious....just as the article on Hooker make it clear he was prominent...hugs and kisses.--MONGO 15:17, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

FAC Nomination Cutthroat trout

Mongo, just put the cutthroat up for FAC. --Mike Cline (talk) 18:21, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Cool beans! I'll bookmark it....--MONGO 18:32, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Tadeusz Kościuszko nominated for FA

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2014 Oso mudslide

Notification

There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. -- Winkelvi ● ✉ ✓ 23:30, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

You guys just had conflicting sources, technically both of you were right. I know it is easy to get pumped up when you are busy improving an article (and by all means, I think it is great to improve the article), however, you probably can dial back the abrasiveness just a notch when doing so. You know this stuff better than I do, so I will spare you the boring monologue. Dennis Brown | 2¢ | WER 00:32, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

• Thanks for taking it in stride. Please understand that the trout isn't a warning, it is just saying "Come on, you know you aren't supposed to tell fellow editors to fuck off". I'm not one to get dramatic or draconian when dealing with civility complaints, boys will be boys, but I felt obligated to say something. You know the drill, which is why I don't labor it and try to keep it light. I explained in greater detail on his page, as he is newer. Dennis Brown | 2¢ | WER 01:23, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

MONGO: Apology accepted. Can we move forward from here in a better way? -- Winkelvi ● ✉ ✓ 01:42, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Of course...I moved on after the admin plopped that warning template on my page...I just log off when it gets hot. Also, I didn't move the page to get a credit for such a sad affair, but was just going by consensus that the material needed a stand alone article...had no idea when I did this that it would then be an In The News piece linked off the main page. Anyway, I had one argument about how many were missing, then saw another one editor insulting your and.my work in edit summaries...then watched an odd page move which the guy switched back..so by the time I restarted editing, my patience was already thin...and here we are.--MONGO 01:51, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

I get it. Let's try to work on it all together as we have time to do so, okay? -- Winkelvi ● ✉ ✓ 01:59, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Of course...so long as we acknowledge that I am never wrong...that's a joke...ha. But actually, as far as that article goes, so I may not do a lot more on it until the full story is known. I tend to get frustrated if I work in very active articles and cooler heads do better. My forte is obscure geographical points and featured article development and reviews. Also...TParis is one of our best admins...Dennis Brown and Jehochman are as well but all Dennis does is cook on his grill all day....least that's what I hear.--MONGO 02:13, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

I think we'll have to agree to disagree on some of that. Nevertheless, take care and see you 'round the Wiki. -- Winkelvi ● ✉ ✓ 02:16, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

24 confirmed dead...second worst loss of life from a landslide in U.S. history....just saw it on the Tele.--MONGO 01:56, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

I saw that, too. Heartbreaking, really. -- Winkelvi ● ✉ ✓ 01:59, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

• Hey sorry I missed the discussion at ANI. I just noticed it this morning. I feel a but sheepish about not being able to chime in with some support for you on that thread, especially after your support of me during that latest reactionary debacle. All seemed to work out however. Keep up the good work. JOJ 15:21, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

• Lol....some fun is worth missing! Just a reminder to me to avoid current event issues on the scale I was involved. I'm not a huge fan of news sources anyway since they fluctuate too much which in turn makes article stability a serious problem.--MONGO 15:27, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

extra tank, extra lunatics,

MONGO approve of tanks...need more than 10 though if war planned for invasion by Ukranians onto soil of mother Russia has chance of success...even if manned by lunatics such as dreaded MONGO!--MONGO 00:25, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

MONGO like! No reason to pussy-foot around! Nothing passive-aggressive about that monster...that's pure testosterone.--MONGO 01:04, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Hahaha! Lunatics lunatics everywhere!!!!

Lunatics everywhere! Even near where I live here near Omaha, Nebraska! In fact, we have some of the worlds best lunatics...so nuts they even make the international news!--MONGO 16:45, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Awesome, truly awesome! Tom Harrison 22:50, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Apparently he now is going to have to come up with 50K, which is ten percent of his half-a-million dollar bail...sometimes the comments after the story add to the pricelessness...--MONGO 00:06, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

I see the brainless culprit was called Mongonga or something. How ironic. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:19, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

He's a cousin! Mganga Mganga....it ranslates to Witch Doctor Witch Doctor...same first and last names aren't too uncommon....see Sirhan Sirhan.--MONGO 13:33, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Yes, just like that Yoko Ono and Denis, Denis. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:42, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

And Jimbo Wales, Jimbo Wales!!!!--MONGO 14:32, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

"Gwlad, gwlad"!!!!, surely? Martinevans123 (talk) 21:15, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Aye, James James!!! Mae'r golygydd isod yn trolio--MONGO 22:05, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Ond dyna lle trolls yn perthyn, wrth gwrs! Martinevans123 (talk) 22:19, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Ddim yn siŵr pa fath o trolio ef fod, efallai ogof-trolio? Efallai y trolls un diwrnod rheol y byd ...--MONGO 22:35, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Oh! What's occurrin'? What UK's really like. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:47, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Arg! Dim titties is drivin dim dar mericans nuts! Lol!--MONGO 23:01, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Shucks, darned inspirin', ain't it. (He's a funny and very talented guy). Martinevans123 (talk) 17:45, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

You may also find this educative, my good man: Martinevans123 (talk) 20:52, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

That is funny.--MONGO 01:23, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Salmon

Steelhead are both. And don't forget, we don't use Misplaced Pages as a reference. . Have a good day. -- Winkelvi ● ✉ ✓ 11:34, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

You need to read the article....it's a featured article...just became one. We DO use out own policies and guidelines to help us maintain our articles.--MONGO 11:40, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

You need to learn ichthology. It's a salmon in coastal rivers, but go ahead and live with the delusion. Did you even look at the WFW link? Obviously they don't know what (think) you know. Have a nice day. -- Winkelvi ● ✉ ✓ 12:11, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Apparently, the National Wildlife Federation hasn't read the Rainbow Trout Misplaced Pages FA article, either. They better do it soon so they can get up to speed! -- Winkelvi ● ✉ ✓ 13:07, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Take it to the article talk page. While Salmon and Trout are closely related, they are not the same thing.--MONGO 13:45, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

This edit summary is hilarious...and above you tell me to learn about ichthology? Stay off my page with your bullshit.--MONGO 14:10, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Hey also....from your link to the National Wildlife Federation webpage above...."unlike a salmon, which dies after spawning, steelhead trout can spawn, return to the ocean, and migrate back upstream to spawn several times."..... --MONGO 14:26, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Meh...above is from the deadly 2014 Oso mudslide article...which happened in the Steelhead neighborhood near Oso, Washington...so the sources say. Sources then say that the neighborhood is named for the Steelhead, a type of fish which used to be common in the river there. Steelhead is a name for an ocean going group of Rainbow trout...and the unknowing may incorrectly confuse some species of Salmon and Rainbow trout and call them both Steelhead as there are similar looking subspecies of ocean going Salmon and Rainbow trout that have silvery or steel colored heads...but the correct species that is a Steelhead is the Rainbow trout. It is not impossible that those that named the neighborhood area meant Salmon, but we don't know that, and since Steelhead is a Rainbow trout and not a species of Salmon, then we don't violate piping on ] like that...because a salmon and a Rainbow trout are not the same thing. Trout and Salmon are similar and are members of the Family Salmonidae, but they aren't in the same genus even.--MONGO 22:25, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Hahaha! Or forced to cut down the mightiest tree in the forest with a herring!--MONGO 18:38, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

YouTube as a RS

It is possible for YouTube to be a WP:RS, it's just extremely unlikely. The main thing to take into account is the provenance and the channel publishing it. In this case, the Zeitgeist video is published by a channel named "subversiveoptimism" which has no indication of being any kind of official or approved account. In fact, TZM has an official channel named TZMOfficialChannel, so if the video were found there, it would possibly be acceptable as a WP:SPS by TZM. But it's not, and so you're right in this case, the video is not a WP:RS. Thanks. Elizium23 (talk) 00:11, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

I believe that for use as a reference, YouTube is not considered reliable by Misplaced Pages.--MONGO 10:49, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Interested in another FAC review?

Looking for some solid reviewers to pop by on the FAC for Mucho Macho Man. Would you be interested? Not a fish, but rather a racehorse who runs with the big fish, so to speak - and to mix metaphors - horribly! I need a few more people to look it over and review. Be nice if I could get it finished this month. Montanabw 16:15, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Will surely be glad to assist there, but might be a few days due to my home computer is now likely dead!--MONGO 16:24, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

That surely sucks! Hope things get back up and running soon! Montanabw 00:36, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

I'll be taking a look over the next few days. I'm able to usr my portable device to perform some copyediting and suggestions as I did yesterday on the Cutthroat trout FAC.--MONGO 10:46, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Given the limits of tech, I am fine if you point out a problem on the FAC page for me to fix, I've been chasing down other people's tweaks for a couple weeks now... just would be glad to get your support if possble! Montanabw 00:46, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

It looks very good right now...I'll read it over one more time tomorrow and not do any editing especially with any bots! I don't see any reason to not support except that I am methodical and usually wait a few days before I do so after I start a review. My ex trained quarter horses but I don't know much about them myself...odd.--MONGO 01:12, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

I appreciate a methodical review, makes the article more likely to be blessed by the FAC gods who promote! LOL! Ah horses... if you think of them as mentally like 1000 pound cats except that they are eating (and pooping) machines who are quite accident-prone, you will be on the right track, ;-) I gotta love 'em! My own breed of choice is the Arabian, but I get a kick out of these race horse "biographies" because the people involved almost always have a great back story. Montanabw 21:16, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

She trained AQHA registered quarter horses...she had some early involvement with a horse named Zips Chocolate Chip, but didn't do much as far as the heavy training or showing except as an assistant. That horse apparently was a major player in the western pleasure class. I did a little riding in the Yellowstone region but most of the time I was stuck driving a police cruiser or fighting forest fires.--MONGO 02:11, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Oh yeah, Zip's Chocolate Chip is a horse I've heard of, and I don't follow AQHA particularly closely! video How long ago did you live/work in/near Yellowstone? Montanabw 03:32, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

I worked at Glacier, Grand Teton Yellowstone and two eastern parks from 1982 to 1996. I was born in Missoula.--MONGO 05:18, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

AHA! Another expat! You folks are everywhere!  :-) Montanabw 08:07, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

I mostly remember Montana from adult life having left there as a child long ago.--MONGO 13:56, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Mentally Ill

Mongo are you one of the ill fan-stalkers of Kellogg, you've been following me around where ever I post. Obsessive. Get help. I'll proceed with having someone here look into your conduct. Sociopath as you seem to enjoy following me around. Good luck seeking help Everestrecords (talk) 05:57, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

You do that.--MONGO 06:09, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Why remove helpful "Get help monster" post? Get help and cakes here, little monster! bishzilla _ROARR!! 16:12, 11 April 2014 (UTC).

I think I'll do just that....might need to create a monster corner for me!--MONGO 16:37, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

("You're a sick person. Stalking me, obsessed with Kellogg, even removing a national magazine source that revealed his use of steroids for Everest attempt. Internet sociopath. Get help monster. Seeking you to be banned, persistent vandal sociopath. Climbing forum obsesser also. Spend hours a day on forums. Autism/Aspergers?")...from my new buddy.

Hi Mongo, I created the Kellogg page yesterday. Just wanted to stop by and thank you for your edits. :) 97198 (talk) 15:44, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Not a problem....just now noticed you posted it for the DYK for the main page... I'll add it to my watch list.--MONGO 16:39, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

• I have now looked into MONGO's conduct as requested by the OP, and have concluded it is eminently lunatic. Will be reporting to WP:ANL momentarily. Incidentally, is Mentally III the grandson of Mentally II ? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 17:17, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

  --MONGO 18:12, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Looks like your 1 day remission is now a week. Sounds like your 'roid rage is finally under control. Congrats! --DHeyward (talk) 03:50, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

One week will be nice. That article is also up at DYK nominations so I hope it gets mainpaged before that guy returns to try and mess with it.--MONGO 14:18, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Re: Collapse of the World Trade Center article

I explained where my notes are. None of you have replied to any of my points. I question how much consensus building can occur with people who don't seem to understand the material and who won't bother to do the research. The article Talk page already acknowledges this is a topic for which much is in dispute. If you haven't read the NIST reports yourself, or done the research, you should step aside. There is much more to be changed in this article. Just undoing what others have done without checking the facts yourself is doing no one a service. You need to co-operate on this. --Jasne9 (talk) 17:45, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Please see new note on article talk page. --Jasne9 (talk) 18:05, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

And that is where content discussions should be.--MONGO 18:09, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Accidental

Sincere apologies for an accidental rollback on your talk page due to fat finger syndrome. -- Winkelvi ● ✉ ✓ 19:03, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

No problem....hugs and kisses!--MONGO 19:06, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

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