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:Review request for a review on the acupuncture page, first paragraph. See the Talk page, "Physical correlates of acupoints" section and "Physical correlates of acupoints, Part Two." I am concerned that an ethnocentric bias on the part of editors has prevented a simple edit. The editors stand by some very shaky references and will not accept references from the most prestigious universities in the world, including those in China. At issue, the current article reads inaccurately, "Scientific investigation has not found any histological or physiological correlates for traditional Chinese concepts such as qi, meridians and acupuncture points," and yet I have sourced numerous peer reviewed studies from reputable sources showing MRI brain activity, hemodynamic and oxygen pressure correlates. Please review, I think you will find the research interesting. ] (]) 13:33, 22 May 2013 (UTC) :Review request for a review on the acupuncture page, first paragraph. See the Talk page, "Physical correlates of acupoints" section and "Physical correlates of acupoints, Part Two." I am concerned that an ethnocentric bias on the part of editors has prevented a simple edit. The editors stand by some very shaky references and will not accept references from the most prestigious universities in the world, including those in China. At issue, the current article reads inaccurately, "Scientific investigation has not found any histological or physiological correlates for traditional Chinese concepts such as qi, meridians and acupuncture points," and yet I have sourced numerous peer reviewed studies from reputable sources showing MRI brain activity, hemodynamic and oxygen pressure correlates. Please review, I think you will find the research interesting. ] (]) 13:33, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
::Thanks for the note; I've been very busy and only read it just now. I will have a look, but can't get into anything very intense for another week or so. But I will have a close look. This is an important area and we need to get it right. --] (]) 16:46, 27 May 2013 (UTC) ::Thanks for the note; I've been very busy and only read it just now. I will have a look, but can't get into anything very intense for another week or so. But I will have a close look. This is an important area and we need to get it right. --] (]) 16:46, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

== Collaboration and Disruptive editing ==

Hi Middle 8!

I too practice acupuncture, or dry needling or medical acupuncture, moreso anatomy based than TCM do have some expertise in the area. I noticed that we have a common disruptive editor, who is also displaying poor editing practices at chiropractic and its sister articles, asides from acupuncture. Rather than individually deal with this individual, it might be better to work in conjunction to help prevent in what I see is ] behaviour which ruins the experience of helping WP achieve its goal of being a reliable and credible source for medically related topics. Perhaps we can collaborate to not only improve acu and chiro articles (by constructively criticizing or helping find better sources). Perhaps a suggestion is that we delineate TCM acu from other styles. Whereas you call it LI-4, I would refer it to 1st dorsal interossei which is a spot where the radial, ulnar and median nerves intersect. A lot of the 'traditional' points are areas of dense neurovascular bundles, hence a strong autonomic effect. Regards. ] (]) 22:09, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

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Acupuncture and Biomedical Correlate

Review request for a review on the acupuncture page, first paragraph. See the Talk page, "Physical correlates of acupoints" section and "Physical correlates of acupoints, Part Two." I am concerned that an ethnocentric bias on the part of editors has prevented a simple edit. The editors stand by some very shaky references and will not accept references from the most prestigious universities in the world, including those in China. At issue, the current article reads inaccurately, "Scientific investigation has not found any histological or physiological correlates for traditional Chinese concepts such as qi, meridians and acupuncture points," and yet I have sourced numerous peer reviewed studies from reputable sources showing MRI brain activity, hemodynamic and oxygen pressure correlates. Please review, I think you will find the research interesting. TriumvirateProtean (talk) 13:33, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the note; I've been very busy and only read it just now. I will have a look, but can't get into anything very intense for another week or so. But I will have a close look. This is an important area and we need to get it right. --Middle 8 (talk) 16:46, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Collaboration and Disruptive editing

Hi Middle 8!

I too practice acupuncture, or dry needling or medical acupuncture, moreso anatomy based than TCM do have some expertise in the area. I noticed that we have a common disruptive editor, who is also displaying poor editing practices at chiropractic and its sister articles, asides from acupuncture. Rather than individually deal with this individual, it might be better to work in conjunction to help prevent in what I see is sociopathic behaviour which ruins the experience of helping WP achieve its goal of being a reliable and credible source for medically related topics. Perhaps we can collaborate to not only improve acu and chiro articles (by constructively criticizing or helping find better sources). Perhaps a suggestion is that we delineate TCM acu from other styles. Whereas you call it LI-4, I would refer it to 1st dorsal interossei which is a spot where the radial, ulnar and median nerves intersect. A lot of the 'traditional' points are areas of dense neurovascular bundles, hence a strong autonomic effect. Regards. DVMt (talk) 22:09, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

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