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∞Who?¿? 08:40, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

Consider nominating

• Kota Kinabalu City Mosque
• Aurelia aurita, Red Sea (nominated by Pine)
• El Atazar Dam, Spain (nominated)
• Solomon Northup

Go, go, go, Crisco!!Hafspajen (talk) 17:09, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

• The only one which has been in its host article for a week is the Dam. I might try in the morning. Past midnight now. G'night. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 17:10, 16 May 2055 (UTC)
• Sleep well. Hafspajen (talk) 17:14, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

You may nominate any of the above. Please. I don't care for the glory, really. Just wan't to skip seeing that horrible thing.The more new nom, the better. File:ToVictoryPoster.jpg Hafspajen (talk) 21:48, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

• Thanks Hafs, I think the one that stands the best chance is The Judgement of Paris, but considering the current climate I don't want to nominate any nudes just yet. I've been holding back on Olympia as well. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:57, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

PRRSSKKHGG. Grssst, eh. What is wrong with nudes? 300 year old nudes? There is nothing wrong with that woman either, all that is just silly. Hafspajen (talk) 01:59, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

• I know, but I really don't want to strike up any more drama. Once the discussion's been closed down for a week or two, then I can schedule the Manet. Paris can follow (or you can nom, if you can get past the elephantitis image). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:02, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

No, I can't. Yuck. When will that disappear? Here trouble naked woman for you. File:Tepidarium Lawrence Alma-Tadema (1836-1912).jpg Hafspajen (talk) 02:04, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

• That's rather shocking, I must say. Shame the painting is so dirty. Curious as to what a good scan would look like. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:26, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

Ee, shocking? Hafspajen (talk) 02:30, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

• The coloration gives a rather gritty realism to it, making it more raw than a lot of the idealized nudes we've featured. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:32, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

Yes, it is. Clever of you to notice it. Hafspajen (talk) 02:42, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

How is going? Good luck... Hafspajen (talk) 14:05, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

• LOL. Shame that's oversharpened, a bit out of focus, and not used in any articles. That would be a fun FP. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:46, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

I forgot about what you said about the nude thing, sorry. Now I remembered when this got on the top and read it again. Well, it is too late now. Or shall delist? Hafspajen (talk) 01:20, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

• No, those paintings are fine. That "nude thing" is winding down as well. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:22, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Soeara Berbisa

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Soeara Berbisa you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Zanimum -- Zanimum (talk) 15:41, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

Holey moley your talk page is busy! The review is posted. -- Zanimum (talk) 18:38, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Congrats on the new GA! I've not put the icon on the article itself, just on the talk page. I've recently been told that the bots get confused if they can't put the template on the page themselves. If it's not there in a day, make sure to add it yourself. -- Zanimum (talk) 22:47, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

• Thanks again. Yeah, I get quite a few pings. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:55, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

Similar DYK issue?

Crisco, I just noticed that you reviewed the Template:Did you know nominations/Kidnapping in the United States article, and flunked it for a variety of reasons, one of which was the Notable cases section. The creator has an article on Child sexual abuse in Australia currently in Queue 4 and due to hit the main page in four hours, and it has a "Notable offenders" section—a list rather than a table, and each offender is wikilinked to an article. If this is problematic, it will require an admin, so I thought you'd want to check to make sure this article doesn't have similar issues to the one you reviewed. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:55, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

• It looks a bit more reasonable than the one I refused, since referencing is considerably stronger. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:44, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

• Good to know, and glad you had a look at it before it went to the main page. Again, thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:04, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

• Fram has weighed in; there's a post now on WT:DYK. There's also a new approval of another nom by this author, Template:Did you know nominations/Kidnapping in China, which seems to have many of the faults you raised when giving the orange X to Template:Did you know nominations/Kidnapping in the United States. I think I'm going to put a hold on the China article so it doesn't get promoted until it can be given a closer look. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:52, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

• Agree. X China for now. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:13, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

Hey, now. I found a picture of an American Cocker Spaniel, a dog that we need pictures of, in the co,mmons Category:Low quality dog pictures, and I figured we could do something with it if we are cropping it, not that bad.

Now the file is deleted and Phil got a template of a common admin, saying she violated copyright? Why? It looked like the persons own dog, or? She have just been accused of violating copyright by an admin over on Commons! when she only cropped it. I wan't that dog back, if possible.

Hafspajen (talk) 16:25, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

• Is there a deletion request? Or did Phil forget to add the original image as the source? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:27, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

I cropped it using the crop tool and then uploaded it as a new file, not over writing the original as the instructions tell you. I have asked the Commons Admin to rev/del it from my talk page as he/she appears to be admitting they hadn't looked at the original file. Do you think he/she will? SagaciousPhil - Chat 16:33, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

• Here's hoping... — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:44, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

And I wan't that dog back, if possible. This is not fair to Phil. And they deleted the original file too, what was wrong with that one? We need that picture. Hafspajen (talk) 16:37, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

• What's the link to the original file? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:44, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

File:This is my male parti color American cocker I want to breed 2014-03-09 16-16.jpg

But, as you will notice, the original file is no good, needs cropping away the gras and stuff in front, top and to the left. Are we getting in trouble, or it again? (If the file can be saved...) Hafspajen (talk) 16:51, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

It would have been File:This is my male parti color American cocker I want to breed 2014-03-09 16-16.jpg - because I just cropped it, the same name was used but with (cropped) added. The link Lupo gave for it being a violation of was this one where a user with the same name as the commons uploader was looking for a mate for their dog, so it was probably their own picture! SagaciousPhil - Chat 16:53, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

And it looks like they are refusing to rev/del it - it was their error. SagaciousPhil - Chat 17:00, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

How silly. Extremely silly, we just want to make use of a picture that it is to no use, that is most probably uploaded by the owner, and everything is deleted, original and the cropped and Phil gets kicked in the but, for no reason at all. Hope somebody appologized for her, at least. Hafspajen (talk) 17:02, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

• No, she got cold-shouldered, kind off. Hafspajen (talk) 22:42, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
• Was this REALLY a copright issue? Hafspajen (talk) 23:51, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

• That's... odd. I don't have access to the file (not a Commons admin) but it looks like it was uploaded in the same time frame as the hoobly image and, barring proof that these are the same people, the precautionary principle recommends deletion. No comment on the bit about rev deleting the template. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:31, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Hm, Phil said that it could be the same person. As she said: this one where a user with the same name as the commons uploader was looking for a mate for their dog, so it was probably their own picture. But I guess it is gone now. Hafspajen (talk) 01:40, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

• It could be, but previous publication requires an explicit release. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:42, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Username on that webbsite was monkeyward, same as the uploader here. But I don't know where to find him/her. Oh, well, bad luck. Hafspajen (talk) 01:44, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

• I'll put it this way; I could see someone with really good images on Flickr, register a Commons account using the same name, and upload his/her images as my own. That's probably not what happened here, but that's why Commons would need verification. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:47, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Yes. and it was a bad picture. Need cropping. Hafspajen (talk) 02:11, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

I am affraid she is not taking it well, and people down there are not exactly nice to her. Hafspajen (talk) 16:54, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

• Crisco 1492, Phil has not been online since this common - misstake. I am nervous. Definitly not like her. Hafspajen (talk) 09:58, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

• I hope she's alright.... — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:08, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

She is not alright. She is pissed and/or hurt. And who is going to make all that work she use to do, on the dog task ? I was not the one looking after recent changes on dog articles, it was her. I can already see some topics I would need her advice. Have you seen her talk on commons? Hafspajen (talk) 10:12, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

• I was thinking of non-Wikimedia reasons for her not to be online, and very few of them are good... that's what I was referring to. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:18, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

Sigh. Hafspajen (talk) 10:20, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

• Chilly feelings
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• 

• Now these are stunning. Very nice! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:35, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

• Chilly feelings
• you may nominate them... go ahead.
• I want Phil back!
• If not I am going to feel like this.

Hafspajen (talk) 02:34, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Wow, they are nice images! Did you really mean to say I was drunk, Hafs? That's what 'pissed' means in the UK! It made me laugh anyway! SagaciousPhil - Chat 05:10, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

• Well, being pissed and having been hurt are not always separate, you know. ;) Glad to see you hanging around here (and yes, the images are great). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:14, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

No, really, Phil. Well, as I said, I have learned English by hearing, as a child, from my relatives in USA. In the summers. Vacations. So... , actually never new that it meant alt1. Crisco, yes. And Crisco, and talk page stalkers, feel free to nominate Any picture I am posting at Crisco's, that is exactly the point with it, and I don't own them. Hafspajen (talk) 10:49, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

And your English is far superior to any attempts I could make at Swedish or Indonesian! We have some very quaint colloquialisms here - look at some of the synonyms . Anyway, the red mist has eventually cleared! SagaciousPhil - Chat 11:20, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

• Yes, indeed. (US, Canada, vulgar, colloquial) Annoyed, angry. Hafspajen (talk) 11:29, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

• Pissed as a fart? Really? Sounds like a serious medical condition... — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:32, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

• Hafspajen (talk) 12:04, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

• Nice feelings
• 
• 

Editwarring over flatlists

Sorry to bug you, but is there something you can do about TheSickBehemoth (talk · contribs) persistently removing {{Flatlist}}s from the Megadeth article? Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 04:49, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

It's not edit warring (1 edit, 1 revert), and it's not following Template:Infobox musical artist. TheSickBehemoth (talk) 04:51, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

• Curly Turkey, that looks absolutely terrible (check out the bullet starting a line in front of Jan Panzer). I'd definitely try and reach a consensus at WikiProject Biography or the template talk page before starting something like that.

TheSickBehemoth: Agree that a single revert is not edit warring per our policy (it calls for repeated reverts to be edit warring). However, not following Template:Infobox musical artist is not breaking policy either, as template documentation is just that: documentation. We can include or exclude fields, or approach them as we want. In this case, however, I think the standard still looks better. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:35, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Flatlists are for accessibility, not aesthetic, purposes, creating a semantic list—if it displays in an unaesthetic way on your browser, that's unfortunate (it displays fine on mine, not that that's the point). I'll take this to TheSickBehemoth's talk page. Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 06:22, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

• I figured as much, but we've got to remember that aesthetics are also a part of the article. Wouldn't {{Plain list}} work fine as well? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:26, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
  • It might indeed. I'll ask the article's authors what they prefer. Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 07:31, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

• Right. But, come to think of it, WP:FLATLIST actually supports using commas as an alternative to the hlist bullets template... just realized we had this as part of the MOS. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:36, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
  • What's part of the MOS? Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 07:43, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
    • WP:FLATLIST, which explicitly gives horizontal lists using commas as an example, is part of Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style/Lists. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:45, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
      • Sorry, I thought you were saying {{Flatlist}} could be used with commas specified as separator—which could be an issue, anyways: imagine it were a list of publishers, and one was Little, Brown. Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 07:54, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
        • Oh, I didn't realize the ambiguity of "supports" in my statement above. Anywho, hope this helps a little. I might stop by Ukiyo-e some time this week (assuming my schedule permits). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:56, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
          • That'd be swell—I've lost all perspective on the article. I'm leaving the lists up to Megadeth's nominator. That's an article that could use another pair of eyes, by the way... Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 08:26, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
            • Has Gabe gotten there? Seems right up his alley. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:27, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
              • So far I've been the only reviewer. Maybe I'll give him a ping. Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 10:37, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
                • Thanks. I'll consider dropping by as well, though after Babe Ruth the thought of another 60k article makes me kinda queezy. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:41, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
                  • That's okay, I understand you need the time to give ukiyo-e a review, copyedit, and thorough source check. Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 11:38, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
                    • And an image review. For all 55 files. Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 11:42, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Becchi

Thank you, but just tell me what AGF means. I can assure you I don't plagiarise other people's writing. Amandajm (talk) 12:10, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

• @Amandajm: AGF is the full description for Assuming Good Faith. - SchroCat (talk) 12:24, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

• Right. And, in a DYK sense, it means "I am unable to check this, but I trust the nominator has not done anything against policy". It's standard for articles with offline and/or foreign language sources, as in many cases few editors would actually have access to said offline sources or the ability to read foreign-language ones.

Although for some reason I can't find this in any of the guideline pages related to DYK... sigh, those pages have been reshuffled so much... — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:31, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

SchroCat, Crisco 1492, thanks for the explanation! Amandajm (talk) 01:44, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

Is it

• Can I use this one here on a talk page as an award? Or is it not fair use? start to get nervous about these picture uses. Also I feel bad, because I succeded to drag Phil into this circus on commons, because it was my idea about cropping that image. Hafspajen (talk) 17:17, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

• The licensing looks fine. The personality rights warning is not a copyright. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:44, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

Sultanate of Singora

Hi there. This is a message for CasLiber, HamiltonStone, SturmVogel and Crisco. Thanks for your help and feeback re: the Singora article. It achieved FA status on Saturday.

I got a message today saying the article will now appear on Misplaced Pages's home page on June 4. This surprised me. I read somewhere that it usually takes several months for featured articles to make it to the home page.

I've cleaned things up a bit. CasLiber and Crisco noted that the section about Persians in 17th century Siam looked out of place. I've deleted this paragraph.

I've also re-jigged the lead and added:

• 1. Alternative names / spellings to the Early History section.
• 2. An explanatory note re: the foundation of the city in 1605.
• 3. An explanatory note re: Sultan Sulaiman's declaration of independence in 1642.
• 4. A second paragraph to the The forts at Khao Daeng section.

If you have time to briefly glance through it again, please do. I still feel the article can be improved prior to June 4.

Thanks again for your help. I've enjoyed doing this. I finished Oxford University almost exactly 30 years ago, so this has been an opportunity to cast aside some of the rust and dust that's built up over the years. Perhaps I'm not as good as I was, but I think I'm still just about okay!

I'll login from time to time. If you'd like a review, do please feel free to let me know.

Singora (talk) 18:08, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Thanks for your review on the RBS, but especially the work you did on the images: it is, as always, much appreciated! Cheers – SchroCat (talk) 18:19, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

• Thanks Schro. Always glad to help. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:37, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

Gubby Allen...

...is now at FAC here. Any further comments gratefully received. Sarastro1 (talk) 19:25, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Lately at DYK

Crisco, it would appear I've dissed a DYK Patriarch (unknowingly, but the fact remains), and compounded the fact by marking the submission for closure because no QPQ is forthcoming. I thought I'd give someone who's been around longer than I have, and might actually know this guy, a chance to donate a QPQ or something, so if you want to (or to contact someone who might), please feel free: Template:Did you know nominations/Pastila.

I'm not sure what should/can be done about Template:Did you know nominations/Leftist errors—the neutrality warnings on the review template are dire and seemed to have merit behind them when I checked a while ago, but I couldn't figure out what to do (and have no interest in reviewing the nomination), so I'm hoping you can do something to break the logjam or wrap it up.

I noticed you were one of the people (including myself) who were pinged by Drmies to close down the Poklonskaya nomination. This needs an admin at the least, if definitive action is going to be taken, given the experience level of the people participating and expressing strong opinions on its suitability for the main page. I'm assuming you're as reluctant as I am to get involved... BlueMoonset (talk) 23:04, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

• There is no patriarch, although I think we can arrange for something. I never used that article you asked me to help finish reviewing last week (though I don't remember which). I'll take a look at the leftist page. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:20, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

• There's another nom by the same person as the Leftist errors article, Template:Did you know nominations/Uprising in Montenegro, which also ran into neutrality problems during the initial review, and has just been reviewed again, suggesting that it should be allowed to run. Perhaps having two data points will help in figuring out what to do. BlueMoonset (talk) 12:50, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

• It looks like the issues on the Montenegro DYK have been settled—I may need to put another "again" icon for the review to finally get its tick, though—which still leaves Leftist errors; the Pastila was formally rejected sometime in the past 24 hours. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:44, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
• I think Leftist should be failed. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:16, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Featured picture candidates/The Last of the Mohicans

An image created by you has been promoted to featured picture status Your image, File:Last of the Mohicans, Merrill bear.jpg, was nominated on Misplaced Pages:Featured picture candidates, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate an image, please do so at Misplaced Pages:Featured picture candidates. Thank you for your contribution! Armbrust 06:00, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

Song of Los

I don't think I did enough to be worth a restorer's credit. I just fixed a scanning artefact and adjusted levels a bit. Adam Cuerden 17:01, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

FPD nomination

I think this fit into criteria of Featured pic. I can not nominate it as i am active from mobile and its quite difficult to nominate from it. Can you nominate it? Regards and thanks -Nizil (talk) 20:04, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

• Sadly, it is under the minimum size and the shadows are a bit harsh. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:39, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Soeara Berbisa

The article Soeara Berbisa you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Soeara Berbisa for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Zanimum -- Zanimum (talk) 23:01, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

First GAR

Hi Crisco- Trying to learn different skills here at Misplaced Pages... Did my first GAR for King Alfred's Tower. I worry it is not detailed enough (as does the nominator). If you have a moment (and the article itself is not long) could you let me know the content areas which need to be expanded in my review. Your tutelage is appreciated...--Godot13 (talk) 01:48, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

• First question: are there more sources? Length does not necessarily equate depth. Gagak Item is barely longer than the tower article and it's featured. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:51, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
  • Thank you. I left a second round of comments in the review.--Godot13 (talk) 08:21, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
    • Alright. Don't be afraid to get in there and nitpick commas, BTW. Prose could use some massaging (a 28 miles (45.1 km) footpath, for instance, is ungrammatical). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:34, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Helped

Now look what happens when I nominate something, now WHAT have I done???????????????????https://en.wikipedia.org/File:Jan_Brueghel_de_Oude_en_Peter_Paul_Rubens_-_Het_aards_paradijs_met_de_zondeval_van_Adam_en_Eva.jpg Hafspajen (talk) 13:05, 21 May 2014 (UTC) I wanted to nominate this picture for FP, and I messed up the file?? HOW ?? File:Jan Brueghel de Oude en Peter Paul Rubens - Het aards paradijs met de zondeval van Adam en Eva.jpg Hafspajen (talk) 13:09, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Hafspajen, I may have fixed it, well at least there aren't a bunch of images there now. You may still have to clean it up a little. --kelapstick 13:16, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

POOOOHHHHugh. I am not a master of nominations... Thanks, K-stick! Hafspajen (talk) 13:17, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Me either, but if you want I can delete the local history and you you can try again. --kelapstick

OK. thanks. Hafspajen (talk) 13:22, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

• Hafs, how did you manage that? Did you go to WP:FPC and follow the instructions? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:31, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Don't know... (think I put the file name in the box...) Well, so far, so good. Misplaced Pages:Featured picture nominations/The garden of Eden with the fall of man. But it is not there again. Hafspajen (talk) 13:33, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

• Oh, that's my fault. I put it under the wrong title. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:37, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

What was I doing wrong?

Hafspajen (talk) 14:08, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

===]=== {{FPCnom/VotingEnds|1401541289}}<small>Voting period ends on <b>31 May 2014 </b> at <b>13:01:29 (UTC)</b></small> ] ;Reason:Rich and detailed work of two very good old masters, and actually one of the best representation of the topic in art history. ;Articles in which this image appears:], ], ] ;FP category for this image:Peter Paul Rubens/Old Testament ;Creator:Artist ] (1577–1640) and ] (1568–1625), uploaded, ] * '''Support as nominator''' – ] (]) 13:01, 21 May 2014 (UTC) * <!-- additional votes go above this line --> {{-}}

• First and foremost, that's the wrong page. Second, you didn't add a colon in front of the "file" in the title, giving you that huge image. The smaller image above it was the file coming through from Commons, and the smaller one below it was your actual nomination. I'm curious how you managed this, to be honest. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:10, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Now they want to delete this one. File:Jan Brueghel de Oude en Peter Paul Rubens - Het aards paradijs met de zondeval van Adam en Eva.jpg, the one I nominated... Is it because I made a mess of it? Hafspajen (talk) 16:09, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

• No, just because the page should not exist on the English Misplaced Pages yet (it is enough for it to be on Commons). If the image passes, the page can be remade. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:15, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

• Passes what? I think that is a good image, I don't want that deleted. Hafspajen (talk) 16:17, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

• (talk page stalker) Just the local description page will be deleted, which is empty anyway. The file will remain on Commons. "Passes" in this context means, that the community decides the images is at FP level, and it's promoted. Armbrust 16:22, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

• Was it that I put the file name into the list box that made it all empty? Hafspajen (talk) 16:24, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

• Yes, the name of the nomination should be added in the box after "Misplaced Pages:Featured picture candidates/" and it shouldn't replace it. Armbrust 16:26, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

But that image was used in several articles, why isn't it HERE, whaterer >HERE means. It looked quite here to me. Hafspajen (talk) 16:29, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

this is good picture and how am I going to nominate it now. Hafspajen (talk) 16:30, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

• The image appears at WP:FPC and on its nomination (Misplaced Pages:Featured picture candidates/The garden of Eden with the fall of man). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:31, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Is there several images or what. I don't like things i don't understand. Hafspajen (talk) 16:32, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

• There's just the one image (on Commons) which is used on several pages (including your nomination). The image you nominated is the one which you linked to above; same image. We just need to keep an eye on it and see how it does at FPC. I need to hit the sack now, but I'll try and answer any further questions in the morning. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:41, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Now I hope that my last two nominations are OK. Hafspajen (talk) 01:23, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

• More or less. You filled out some fields wrong though. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:37, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Soeara Berbisa DYK

Crisco, I just saw this DYK of yours in Prep 1's quirky spot, and was curious enough about the hook to take a look at the article. The article has "civilised" in quotes, but the hook did not, so I added quotes around the word in the hook. Please let me know if this is a problem. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 13:24, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

• I didn't think the quotes were necessary for a single word in that context (note that the main article has civilised in scare quotes and the rest paraphrased). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:28, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

• I hadn't thought of those as scare quotes, but as precision, showing that this was the actual word used ("beschaafd"). BlueMoonset (talk) 21:35, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

• Alright. Anyways, the quotes are fine in the hook. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:16, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Harta Berdarah

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Harta Berdarah you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Zanimum -- Zanimum (talk) 21:01, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/The Flick

Crisco, I'd greatly appreciate it if you could take a look at this one. While I may think I was justified in what I did, I could be very wrong (or enough wrong), and I'd prefer that it was given a second look by an experienced DYK reviewer who's also an admin. I can't remember whether this is someone you have issues with; if so, then by all means feel free to decline, or give me your thoughts here rather than there. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:21, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. BTW, we're overdue for a main page swap-out with DYK. I've just posted to the DYK talk page, but if no one else has already seen it, do you think you might be able to promote? Much appreciated. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:39, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

• Will try, assuming Chrome doesn't freeze up on me (I'm running PTGui right now, which is very memory intensive) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:51, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

• Or not. Materialscientist got it. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:52, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Soeara Berbisa

On 22 May 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Soeara Berbisa, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Union Films' 1941 film Soeara Berbisa was advertised as "civilised" enough for European audiences? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Soeara Berbisa. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Materialscientist (talk) 00:48, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Opinion on pictures and FPC

I have been fascinated by the FPC process for a while and after the excavation at the Atari landfill, Commons attained a couple of files on the event. I'm wondering if any of them have a chance of surviving a round at the process. More so this one. GamerPro64 02:12, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

• We can work with a couple of these. I could edit File:Atari E.T. Dig- Alamogordo, New Mexico (14039327125).jpg to close-to FPC quality; what time was it taken, though? That's awfully dark for a desert. File:Atari E.T. Dig- Alamogordo, New Mexico (14036097792).jpg has less of a chance, I think, in part owing to the prominent copyrighted covers. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:18, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
  • I'm not entirely sure when the first photo was taken. It says it was taken in November and it appears that there was an overcast during the time it was taken. Also, you have a point about the second photo. Forgot all about the issue of copyright thanks in part to copyright. Just thought it was a pretty cool shot. GamerPro64 02:48, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
    • It also says the time was a little past midnight. The clock on the camera is clearly wrong; that's way too far south for a midnight sun. I'll try playing with it and upload it separately. PTGui is still running, so my computer is a little slow. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:01, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
      • GamerPro64, I've uploaded the edit. I could probably knock down the exposure a little bit, if you think it's necessary. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:51, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
        • I think the exposure is all right as it is. So, when I put it up for nomination, would I have to nominate the original and the new one you cleaned up? Also, I'm reading the criteria and I'm not entirely sure about #5. If the old was replaced with the updated version, there's no need for the seven day wait period? GamerPro64 04:12, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
          • There shouldn't be any need. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:21, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

One last question before I throw caution to the wind and nominate the picture. What category would it be part of? I want to say "Culture & Lifestyle" but I'm not fully certain. GamerPro64 19:12, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Canadian Eskimo Dog

Hi Crisco, would you mind having a very quick look at Canadian Eskimo Dog, please? I'm a little worried about sourcing and possible BLP concerns with the Controversies section. Two of the paragraphs of the Brian Ledoon section are unsourced - other refs used there seem to be a blog, weirdanswers.com, imdb, urbanlegends and costabotes is a circular ref back to weirdanswers. I also think PETA would have to be used with caution as it is an animal rights activist organisation? Or are my concerns unfounded? SagaciousPhil - Chat 08:30, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

• That is the biggest "ugh" I've seen today. Nuked. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:35, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! I don't know how I missed it when it was put in a couple of weeks ago as I only stumbled on it after a minor IP edit. BLP issues in dog breed articles - whatever next? SagaciousPhil - Chat 08:44, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

• I wouldn't be surprised if it was common. The Vick incident a few years back probably caused some real headaches. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:48, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

I hadn't even heard of that incident - must have been big news in the States at the time though. SagaciousPhil - Chat 09:05, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

• Yeah. It was nasty. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:07, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

"and other Shinto traditions?"

I don't have a source to back it up, but it was explained to me that cremation is a Buddhist thing, and the traditional Shinto thing is to roll the body up in a barrel-like thing for burial—this is rare today, though. Apparently cremation did not become common until the 20th century, although if you told that to the average Japanese they'd be surprised. Today, people tend to follow Buddhist rites for death-related things (funerals, family tombstone visits, etc) and Shinto for life-related things (celebrating a birth, shrine visits at New Year's)—even though most Japanese are not particularly religious (if at all). It's all very confusing, and your average Japanese is not very helpful in explaining it. Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 09:07, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

• Hence why the text is hidden. :D The two paragraphs were just to have a general overview which we can source. We don't need to go too in-detail, but this is all important for the average reader. I had never heard of kegare before, that's for sure. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:09, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
  • Y'learn something new all the time—I'd thought kegare was just a less-common synonym for yogore or kitanai (two words for "dirty" written with the same Chinese character as kegare). The skipping of the New Year's postcords was always explained to me as "medetaku nai kara" (roughly "because there's nothing to feel happy about (celebrate?)"—the dictionary gives "because it's inauspicious", but it's not anything as pompous-sounding a thing to say as that). My experience is that few Japanese have much depth of knowledge of their own traditions, even everyday ones. Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 10:50, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
    • Which wouldn't surprise me at all (we probably have just as good of an understanding about Canadian traditions). My wife cracked up when I told her that KFC was traditional Japanese Christmas food, BTW (there's a scene where the the main character, his boss, and his coworker eat fried chicken together at Christmas; luckily no Colonel). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:58, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
      • Ha! They even dress the Colonel up as Santa Claus. They actually do serve turkey at KFC at Christmas (at least some years), but it's only smoked turkey legs (tastes like ham...blecch)
        wp.ja says that the original author was opposed to the adaptation (didn't like the script), and told the director to make a different work about the subject instead. I've been looking for the source of the quote, but it looks like evey blog in Japan has decided to quote wp.ja on it. That's assuming the original quote was ever online. The article also claims there was a comic adaptation. There's a dead link that gives box office revenues of ¥6.46 billion. Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 11:12, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
      • And there's the comic adaptation. Just gotta find a proper source. Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 11:13, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
        • Well, that's enough for existence. I'll add that to the article soon as part of the release/adaptations section. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:33, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
          • While we're at it, it appears the tie-in manga was released earlier than the film. At least, if we can trust Amazon comments as a starting point. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:43, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
            • The serialization apparently ended a month before the film was released, but somehow the artist got the chance to see the film before he started drawing it. Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 11:47, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
              • Says "script", at least in your addition. It's reasonable that he could have read the script and hear the music. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:48, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
                • No, he agreed to take on the adaptation after seeing the script, and then viewed the actual film before starting to draw, at which point he decided to make changes. Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 12:04, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
                  • Alright. We might want to add that. Do you want me to pause so you can do that without edit conflicts, or can I play with the review section some more? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:07, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
                    • No, I'm going to bed now. I've got an oral exam over the phone early tomorrow morning. Just reword it however you think gets the point across. Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 12:12, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
                      • Best of luck with that. Alright, I'll work with what I can get easy access to for now (though we'll be going out for STMJ (sorry, no English source) soon. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:16, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

• I got myself all excited—I came across a 26-page academic paper published at Fukuoka University. The entire first page is a summing up of how the book came to be adapted ... but it begins with "according to Misplaced Pages" (and quotes that quote I was looking for ... from Misplaced Pages) ... Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 05:50, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

• That's not, necessarily, enough to rule it out entirely. Anything original that could be used? Any actual RSes cited? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:10, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
  • There might be something in there, but "Misplaced Pages" pops up with alraming frequency in it ... including all the background material on Aoki  ... Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 07:18, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

• Good point. We shouldn't use it. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:22, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

• When you saw the movie, was it dubbed or subbed? Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 06:01, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
  • Subbed. I refuse to watch dubs of Japanese films (or most other foreign-language films, for that matter). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:10, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
    • I was wondering, because I'm getting hte impression there was no dubbed version, but I can't find that stated anywhere. Curly Turkey ⚞¡gobble!⚟ 07:18, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
      • Maybe in the English sourcs. I'm still doing some images as a favour for a friend, but hopefully this evening I can buckle down with the article. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:22, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Files

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• By the way, the description for these files should be: Stravinsky fountain Centre Pompidou, Paris. File:Strawinsky fountain (Tinguely fountain) pic1.jpgFile:Strawinsky fountain (Tinguely fountain) pic3.jpg Hafspajen (talk) 17:40, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

• Done. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:41, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, Crisco. Well, am I going to scare away everybody by doing badly formatted nominations? I might be stupid att doing noms, and a newbegginer, but the pictures are fine... Hafspajen (talk) 09:56, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

• Yes, the pictures are great. There shouldn't be anybody scared away. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:56, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

• Thanks. Not that is directly a rush for voting for them... Hafspajen (talk) 09:57, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

WP:GO Question

Just curious as to why you removed the FAs from the Week of May 18th edition of "Goings-On". - Neutralhomer • Talk • 12:41, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

• I seemed to remember that GO was for content that had been promoted in the past 3 days, but apparently I was mistaken. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:46, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
  • No worries. :) - Neutralhomer • Talk • 12:56, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

2 G6s

Could you do 2 G6 speedy deletions for me at Government gazette and Diamond Platnumz? Thanks. Armbrust 12:53, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

• Y got one, I got another. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:03, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
  • Thanks, but unfortunately Y left the talk page behind. See Talk:Diamond Platnumz. Armbrust 14:13, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
    • Mike got that one. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:15, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

By the way...

You said there were 3 editors with inappropriate sigs...you might want to advise them of how the AN closed, and report them if they don't change their sig the panda ₯’ 00:25, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

• I believe I said "a couple", as in two, that I've seen. I'll mention this to the other one. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:38, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

SAS Institute

Hey, do you think I can borrow you for the last section (History) here? User:Guy Macon has been reviewing a lot of the content, but I noticed on his Talk page that he's sick and I don't want to bother him. You'll see the content is very positive and includes an unusual number of awards and whatnot, but I am just following the sources, I swear! After that all that's left is the Lead and I should be able to nominate it for GA. The GA reviewer will of course point out how promotional it is, and I expect to go through "that" song and dance again ;-)

BTW - I am also asking around (maybe forum shopping, I suppose) for editors to participate on the James T. Butts, Jr. page (see BLPN discussion here. I bring it up because, from my perspective, the BLP issues on the page are severe enough to warrant some degree of urgency. CorporateM (Talk) 01:35, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

• Ugh, the Butts article is a mess. Did you see those "a source", several sources? Ugh. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:55, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Take a look at the sources... CorporateM (Talk) 03:14, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

• I'm doing that. I'm trying to actually give proper attribution, which is necessary for NPOV. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:16, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

I meant because the sources are mostly op-eds and primary sources. There seems to be a general consensus that my version is basically better and more in-line with the direction the article needs to head, however without bold editing on an article where editors have strong opinions, it could take quite a while to get a strong version in place, whereas I feel severe BLP issues like this should be handled with some degree of urgency. CorporateM (Talk) 13:39, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

List of Major League Baseball players with unidentified given names

Due to the lack of input, as opposed to a flawed list, you closed Misplaced Pages:Featured list candidates/List of Major League Baseball players with unidentified given names/archive1. Would you be opposed to just moving it to the top of WP:FLC instead of opening a new candidate page? Seattle (talk) 01:38, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

• Yes, I would be opposed. It needs to be renominated (i.e. using a new nomination) after two weeks or more. Not sooner. People might be willing to review the list if you reviewed others, so that's something you can work on. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:48, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

DYK noms

Crisco, I'm going to be with family starting tomorrow for the long weekend, and access will likely be spotty (if I have free time at all). I'm hoping you can help me with a couple of outstanding issues that I don't think I'm going to have time to finish up on. Many thanks.

The first is Template:Did you know nominations/Djawoto. As it has sources in Indonesian, particularly one Soman was pointing me to that I was hoping to hand it off to you, since Google translate is quite rough and missing the detail I would need. The "cadre" issue has been solved by Soman changing the wording—I'd never run into the word applying to a single person, and found its use confusing—but there's an "if...then" structure to the final sentence that I'm not sure is warranted. I imagine you'll be able to tell. At any rate, I hope you don't mind my leaving the final disposition of this to you.

The other one was a call from Drmies on Template:Did you know nominations/I Got U‎ with a query about the newest ALT hook, which I'm hoping you can take for me.

There have been a couple of nominations I'd been meaning to commend to your attention, since they've been sitting there for a while. One is an April Fools candidate, Template:Did you know nominations/Neotrogla. The other is Template:Did you know nominations/Widener Library, where a significant portion of the 5x expansion is in the Notes section, rather than the intro and body; I imagine you've dealt with these issues before. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:41, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

• I'll try and deal with that later today. Hope I don't forget. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:09, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Cropping Kelpie

Hi Crisco, I've been trying to crop this old piece of artwork using the Commons tool. I'm trying to get rid of the white space/text and whenever I try it, the tool is cutting the image off below her feet despite having the selection correct. Can you tell me why that's happening and what I'm doing wrong, please? SagaciousPhil - Chat 12:35, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

• Commons tool? I'm unfamiliar with that. I usually download and crop in my own software. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:38, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

I mean this thing - it's very basic (although Hafs has had problems getting it to work!) SagaciousPhil - Chat 12:46, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

• I have no idea how that thing works. If you want, I can crop this and upload it for you. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:49, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

That would be brilliant, if you wouldn't mind . SagaciousPhil - Chat 12:58, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

• Alright. I'll even straighten it for you. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:45, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Can you remove the moustache? as now it rather looks like Conchita. Conchita Wurst, I mean. Hafspajen (talk) 13:59, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

• Based on the halftoning, I think that's part of the original print. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:03, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Wow, Crisco - that is ace! Thank you, it looks so much better! SagaciousPhil - Chat 14:15, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

• Always glad to help. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:18, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Harta Berdarah

The article Harta Berdarah you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Harta Berdarah for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Zanimum -- Zanimum (talk) 13:01, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Harta Berdarah

On 23 May 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Harta Berdarah, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Union Films' action film Harta Berdarah was released during Eid? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Harta Berdarah. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:13, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Bharat Ratna: Article or List?

As you are a FL admin, if you get some time, can you please opine here? - Vivvt (Talk) 14:30, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Teamwork Barnstar
	Thanks for lending your talent to the Sgt. Pepper peer review and FAC. Because of some wonderful teamwork during the last month, the article is among the best on Misplaced Pages today. I couldn't have done it alone, and I hope that someday I can return the kindness and generosity that I've enjoyed during this process. Cheers! GabeMc 16:21, 23 May 2014 (UTC)