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Will you be handling the history merge, please (as noted in the ]). I know it's a pain and I'd do it if I were an admin, but I'm not so I can't. ] ] 07:50, 24 May 2014 (UTC) Will you be handling the history merge, please (as noted in the ]). I know it's a pain and I'd do it if I were an admin, but I'm not so I can't. ] ] 07:50, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
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Expedia

Hi North, I have seen your work on Misplaced Pages and your copy-editing skills are spot on and very accurate. I would like to ask you if you could make edits to the page of Expedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/Expedia), as there is some information missing from the page. Would you be willing to make edits to the page so that it's complete? The main areas that I think needs more information are the infobox on the top right, and external links.

To be specific, I think the infobox at top right needs more information, and fields more in line with other global travel brands like http://en.wikipedia.org/TripAdvisor, http://en.wikipedia.org/Trivago or and http://en.wikipedia.org/Vodafone_Hutchison_Australia. The infobox also needs to change URLs to be within 'website' (at the bottom) rather than 'Web address' (at the top), and it needs to include links to Expedia ccTLD: US, CA, UK, AU & NZ (in that order) in the same shape as http://en.wikipedia.org/Trivago In regards to external Links, I think it should link to Expedia ccTLD in the same shape as http://en.wikipedia.org/TripAdvisor with the same links as on #3.

Let me know, I would highly appreciate your assistance in this matter.

Erexkiss (talk) 12:52, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi User:Erexkiss: I've updated the infobox at Expedia (website) to the current version of Template:Infobox website. Other articles about the companies themselves use Template:Infobox company, such as Expedia, Inc. and TripAdvisor. However, since the Expedia (website) article is about the website itself, the website infobox is most appropriate for this article. I have also added a link to the U.K. website in the external links section. I'm not finding a website for "Expedia ccTLD". I have also added the U.K. url to the infobox. I'm not interested in researching websites in other languages/countries and adding them to the infobox, but feel free to do so per the formatting in the infobox. NorthAmerica 16:07, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for this North. Regarding other country-specific web addresses, I am reluctant to edit the page as I'm not a seasoned Misplaced Pages editor, therefore I fear that if I make edits I will compromise Expedia's page and my own account. Would you be willing to add 5 additional web addresses if I give them to you? Your help is much appreciated. Erexkiss (talk) 09:47, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

User:Erexkiss: I can handle that. Feel free to post the Expedia links here. NorthAmerica 10:00, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Your are more than helpful, I highly appreciate your time. the URLs are as follows: http://www.expedia.ca/ for Canada, http://www.expedia.com.au/ for Australia, http://www.expedia.co.nz/ for New Zealand, http://www.expedia.it/ for Italy, http://www.expedia.fr/ for France, and http://www.expedia.de/ for Germany. Many thanks North. Erexkiss (talk) 10:37, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

 Done: see Expedia (website). NorthAmerica 10:50, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Many Thanks! Is there some sort of risk of compromising the Expedia page, or my account, if I go ahead and update the External Links section with the same information, as currently only US and UK links are present there? it looks a bit unfinished in its current state. Erexkiss (talk) 11:27, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

I don't recommend double-linking, as this would appear promotional. If anything, the links could actually be omitted from the External links section since they're all in the infobox. NorthAmerica 11:37, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

non admin closures

I've noticed you've closed discussions as no consensus, I thought non admin closures were limited to very clear consensus keep cases. Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Gedling Borough Council election, 2015 had some heated discussion including a compromise proposal that a closing admin may have considered. LibStar (talk) 15:34, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

The AfD discussion has been reopened. The compromise proposal is to redirect. Underneath this in comments two users were clearly against this. NACs are not limited to keep closures only. It's crystal clear that there's no consensus in the discussion. However, per your concerns, I have re-opened it. It's quite likely that another user will close this with the same no consensus result. NorthAmerica 15:43, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
thanks. It may be most likely no consensus, but non admins should only close as no consensus in cases of little or no participation, Misplaced Pages:Non-admin_closure#Appropriate_closures LibStar (talk) 15:56, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
I base my closures upon the guideline page at WP:NACD, rather than the opinion essay page. NorthAmerica 16:00, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

N.b. Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Gedling Borough Council election, 2015 was closed by another user, again as no consensus (same result). NorthAmerica 08:04, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Steve McElroy

Hello North, thanks for your closure on this. But I disagree that it is a no consensus. The nomination itself is an implied delete !vote (assuming the closer agrees that it is policy-based), so in the absence of keep !votes, the outcome should have been a soft delete performed by an admin. Had there been a single valid !keep vote, your closure would have been appropriate. §FreeRangeFrog 16:45, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi User:FreeRangeFrog: I closed the discussion per WP:NPASR, which states (in part) "If a nomination has received no comments from any editor besides the nominator (or few in the case of AfDs), the discussion may be closed at the closer's discretion and best judgment. Common options include, but are not limited to:...closing as "no consensus" with no prejudice against speedy renomination (NPASR)..." Since you disagree, I have reopened it. I would say go ahead and delete it, but since you started the discussion, another admin can do so, if that's their judgment to do so. NorthAmerica 16:51, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
I've always had a problem with the fact that there are multiple no-quorum closure options in the AFD policy, honestly, because one of them (excluding relisting) allows for NACs and one doesn't. I used to stay away from NACs in these cases before I got the mop, for that reason. To clarify, your closure was correct and within policy of course, it's just that I disagree with it Let's give it maybe a day more and see if a sympathetic admin agrees with me, otherwise we can go with your no consensus option. It's been there long enough as it is... maybe I was too verbose with my nomination, but I really feel this vanity bio should go. In any case, thanks again. §FreeRangeFrog 17:00, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
Hey, that works, and thanks for the reply and for your opinion. Cheers, NorthAmerica 17:02, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
Well, it looks like someone was going to relist and closed it as NPASR anyway Maybe I'll wait a few weeks and re-nominate. §FreeRangeFrog 17:32, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
Yes, it was closed again today by another user with the identical close I performed (diff1, diff2). NorthAmerica 01:43, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

What is with the new layout of editing?

Okay figured I ask someone-I have not edited in a few days due to the fact the new lays is kind of annoying when you try to edit. When I paste something I go back to the top, ect. Do you know if there is a way to go back to the old way? (I'm using IE right now) Wgolf (talk) 20:20, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi User:Wgolf: I'm unsure of what specific aspect of layout you're referring to. Could you provide an example of a page you have recently edited? NorthAmerica 20:25, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

Actually I don't mean layout, its just a bunch of things come up like another box to put the bold, italic and underline. And when I try to post my sig it goes to the edit summary instead of the normal place it shoud.

Looks like its something with this User:Cacycle/wikEd help Wgolf (talk) 20:32, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

User:Wgolf: I'm really not sure about how to correct this. Firstly, you could try using another browser. Simply disabling wikEd may solve your problems. Another thing is to check Beta features and select/deselect Compact personal bar, VisualEditor, VisualEditor language tool, etc. if you are using any of these features. Additional places to get help include the Help desk and Teahouse. NorthAmerica 20:35, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

Somehow something on my preferences got changed-I just pressed reset all and everything is good. (Can't believe I didn't think of that earlier) anyway have a nice night! Wgolf (talk) 01:38, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Glad it worked out, and have a good one. NorthAmerica 01:40, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Fritanga

How do I request a translated article version of this Tajada article from the Spanish Misplaced Pages? Candleabracadabra (talk) 22:46, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

The easiest way is to use Google Translate. Check out this translated page of the Spanish Misplaced Pages's Tajada article. See also Misplaced Pages:Translation. NorthAmerica 22:50, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

This article on Piqueteadero )Piqueteadero) would also be good to get translated. Thanks for any help or suggestions. Candleabracadabra (talk) 22:49, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

Piqueteadero translated → here. NorthAmerica 22:52, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

Hmmmm... I thought Google translate was considered unreliable? Perhaps it has progressed a bit since then... Those translations look a little rough around the edges. Isn't there some sort of template you put on a page requesting that it be translated from the foreign language Misplaced Pages?

FYI I created shredded beef. Candleabracadabra (talk) 23:11, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

User:Candleabracadabra: I speak some Spanish, so GTranslate is functional for my purposes. Check out Category:Expand by language Misplaced Pages templates for a list of translation request template options for existent articles. See also Category:Articles needing translation from foreign-language Wikipedias. NorthAmerica 23:15, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
Shredded beef
Also, thanks for creating the new shredded beef article. NorthAmerica 23:18, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

Help please

The Open faced sandwich article has been quite unnecessarily butchered by an editor. These facts are not controversial, but quite well know undisputed dishes. I think people should not not mass-remove every sentence that doesn’t have an inline citation, just add a citation if indeed is needed and somebody will find those sources. WP:PRESERVE. This is not a not controversial topic, and references can be found. Before removing ANYTHING - make sure that there indeed is no such reference for it YOU can find yourself. Otherwise it is just disruptive editing ->Misplaced Pages:Disruptive editing forcing other people to start working to find references, when the removed things have been just quite alright, and when they could use their time for better things than start hunting references for totally uncontroversial topics. This is forcing other people who want to build an encyclopaedia to go and work a lot and do the work this guy could do just as well. WP:PRESERVE is about preserve content. Right, we need references for the American stuff, I fix the Europeans. It is the same thing that happened to Breakfast... Hafspajen (talk) 12:20, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Ok, I worked all day on that article, Open sandwich. Do you think you can bring on some more refs+ and check it a little? Hafspajen (talk) 19:57, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi User:Hafspajen: I've been off-wiki today, so I missed all the action. Great work improving the article. I have performed some touch-up upon it, and may work on sourcing it more in the near future. NorthAmerica 06:06, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for your award!! Something else. Here. Why? Well, anyway, it made it. Hafspajen (talk) 17:19, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Beast usez

Actually my socks belong to a Long Term sockmaster. Im not going to tell you the account name though.--Beast wiki userz (talk) 16:34, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Redirected by another user to Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Mr Wiki Pro. More information added there. NorthAmerica 16:47, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
Yo — Preceding unsigned comment added by Southamericia1000 (talkcontribs) 11:35, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

Combo photos

Do you know how to make those combo photos where there are four pictures in one image? Are those considered good form? I was thinking some of the fruit and plants type images in Hawaiian cuisine as well as maybe an initial image, might be good as combo photos? Candleabracadabra (talk) 15:00, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

User:Candleabracadabra: check out Template:Multiple image. Regarding form, it's subjective, with use dependent upon upon the style, layout, length, etc. of an article. NorthAmerica 17:34, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
Interesting. Thanks very much. Probably above my paygrade. I am also a bit wary of fooling around a lot with photos because they look different and the layout varies according to the device they are viewed on, but I do think the combo format would be a good approach for combining some of the multiple photos of fruits and edible plants in the article. Not sure who to ask for assistance? Candleabracadabra (talk) 17:42, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
User:Candleabracadabra: I've performed some image layout at Cuisine of Hawaii, moving images to various sections for enhanced organization. Check it out. NorthAmerica 17:46, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
I have come to the conclusion that the listing content at the bottom of the article should be moved to the list article. It's not clear to me the inclusion/ exclusion criteria. And I think the key dishes should be worked into the article. Listing lots of things without much explanation doesn't seem very useful. I also think in the actual list article the descriptions can be improved. Not having to do this in both places would help. I can only handle so much on that article at the mo' however, and issues of article ownership, disruption, incivility, personal attacks, harassment, and obstruction have to be overcome. Native Hawaiian cuisine might interest you. I'm only getting started and hoping to work in heaps more photos of poi. Candleabracadabra (talk) 17:50, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
User:Candleabracadabra: I'm going to avoid getting involved in the discussion about the restored stub article, etc., simply because I have other things I would rather do. Regarding a merge of the dishes at Cuisine of Hawaii to List of Hawaiian dishes: this would be fine with me. Thanks for the Native Hawaiian cuisine link. NorthAmerica 17:56, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
Also, the list article would definitely benefit from added descriptions. NorthAmerica 17:57, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
I understand. Probably wise. Thanks for your help and input. It is much appreciated. Happy tidings and enjoy your works wherever and whatever they may be. Please let me know if I can be of any assistance. I love mucking about! Candleabracadabra (talk) 17:59, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

What does ibidf mean? Did you mean to remove everything but the specialty dishes from list of article? Candleabracadabra (talk)

Meant to be "ibid". Content has been restored at the list. A wiki timeout error occurred, after which I kept receiving the blue page "Misplaced Pages's servers are experiencing a temporary problem..." etc. NorthAmerica 18:18, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
File:Lightplate.jpg
I figured it was some sort of glitch. I saw you added a photo of lomi salmon. I actually think, given the premium on images and such, that this photo would be more appropriate and is especially beautiful. It also has the advantage of including several dishes. It definitely includes
In fact, this image would be a good opening photo. I don't like the one being used now; I think it's a bit grotesque. But I would be okay with it being used further down in the article if there is not a better image of kalua/ luau. Your photo adjustment at the Hawaii Regional Cuisine article look reasonable to me. Candleabracadabra (talk) 20:36, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
That works for me. NorthAmerica 05:48, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

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Ethnic cuisine

Hi. Your linking of ethnic cuisine in this context doesn't make any sense. It refers to a historical period of cuisine in Hawaii classified by food historians, that took place from around 1850-1930. The "notable topic for which an article can be created" refers to that historical period, not to any one "ethnic cuisine". It would be helpful at the bare minimum, if you could follow WP:OVERLINK and WP:REDLINK. Viriditas (talk) 09:43, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

I can live without the ethnic cuisine link in Cuisine of Hawaii, although it's all right to add red links for nonexistent article topics that are notable, per WP:REDLINK. The notion needs to begin somewhere, and adding redlinks helps to encourage contributions. NorthAmerica 09:49, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
I agree, but why do you think "ethnic cuisine" is a viable link in this context? While you could argue that we need another daughter article on "Ethnic food of Hawaii", I don't think that's what you meant. You meant that we need a general article on "ethnic cuisine", right? Well, all foods are ethnic foods, so could you specify what would go in such an article? Viriditas (talk) 10:07, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
BTW, I should mention that your link to fusion cuisine was excellent. Viriditas (talk) 10:08, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
Re ethnic cuisine: lots of rich sources out there. See Gbooks, etc. for starters. NorthAmerica 11:11, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
I looked, and I don't see anything that would allow to create an article. All cuisine is "ethnic cuisine", it just depends on the context. In the context of the cuisine of Hawaii, it refers to a specific period of Hawaii food history during the plantation immigration period (dates above). In the context you are using it, it refers to any cuisine. I looked at GBooks and can't image how we could create an article about a general topic lke "ethnic cuisine". Perhaps you feel differently, I don't know. BTW, could you address the "too many images" tag I added to Native Hawaiian cuisine. It currently has an insane total of 24 images in a 22 kB article, which is not supported by any policy, guideline, or practice. Since you seem to have more an expertise at dealing with images than I do, I would appreciate it if you would fix that situation. Thanks. Viriditas (talk) 21:55, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
N.b. It appears that images have been pruned from Native Hawaiian cuisine. It's presently at AfD: Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Native cuisine of Hawaii. NorthAmerica 06:04, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

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The Golden Ruler

Dear reviewer, I wanted to create an article in Misplaced Pages for 'the golden ratio ruler', without success. This instrument is used by ancient artists and architects. An actual copy (?) is in the Abbaye Notre-Dame de Sénanque, France, of which a photograph is in my website. I have analyzed selected artworks many of which are Misplaced Pages articles. I kindly ask you to visit my site and see what can be done about it. This forgotten instrument of art must receive its due respect. My regards. Ates Gulcugil atesgulcugil@hotmail.com

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Note: For some of the pictures free ones from Wikimedia Commons can be used. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Atesgulcugil (talkcontribs) 15:00, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi User:Atesgulcugil: check out the Misplaced Pages:Article wizard, with which you can create and submit an entry as a draft or to Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Articles for creation for consideration to be published in Misplaced Pages's main (article) namespace. NorthAmerica 06:07, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

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List of edible molluscs

Hello North, Could you tell me where you got the info that you put into this list? Thanks, Invertzoo (talk) 12:20, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi User:Invertzoo: all entries were from Category:Edible molluscs at the time the article was created. NorthAmerica 12:51, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
OK, thanks. Invertzoo (talk) 12:56, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
Update: This morning I spent 3 hours radically re-working the list; you may want to take a look at it to see how it is currently organized. I also just wanted to say that when you make a list that is biological like this one, you need to put the scientific names for genus and species into italics, rather than plain text. It would also be a really good idea to drop a note onto the talk page of the relevant WikiProjects (in this case WikiProject Gastropods and WikiProject Bivalves), in order to let them know the list article has been started and needs a great deal of additional work. Invertzoo (talk) 14:41, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
User:Invertzoo: Thanks for the improvements, and for posting messages about the article at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Gastropods and Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Bivalves. I know to add italics to taxonomic names, but it slipped my mind to do so when creating the article. Cheers, NorthAmerica 23:14, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

The golden (ratio) rule, Reliable source.

Hi. The actual golden ratio rule is in the Abbaye Notre-Dame de Sénanque. The Earl kinly sent me its photo. You can see it in my website: http://039a2b6.netsolhost.com/thegoldenrule.html How can I show a 'reliable' source when even they don't know what it is? However if the words written on it (coudee, empan, palme, paume) are entered in Googele similar carpenter's rules can be found and their owners have the knowledge that they are golden ratio rules. The golden rule is described in my website. What I have discovered is that it has been used for most art pieces, ancient and medieval and renaissance. These are in my web. Kind regards. Ates Gulcugil — Preceding unsigned comment added by Atesgulcugil (talkcontribs) 14:13, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi User:Atesgulcugil: I'm not interested in researching and developing an article for this topic; I'm presently working on other things. If you require any assistance, check out the Misplaced Pages:Help desk and Misplaced Pages:Teahouse where volunteers are available to provide guidance. NorthAmerica 22:19, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

Note on non-admin AfD closures

I've always seen closures such as Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Frank A. DeMarco and Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Great Blue Hill eruption prank to be outside the purview of non-admin closure since they involve some form of judgment that isn't plain housekeeping. (E.g., something like "no consensus" for Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Dr Zeus may be the right closure argument, would be inappropriate for a NAC because it's not due to a lack of discussion.) Just wanted to run that past you for consideration czar  13:32, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

I'm an experienced user and take my discussion closures seriously, which are based upon WP:NACD rather than the opinion essay. Are there any matters within the discussions themselves that require more attention? NorthAmerica 13:41, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
No—just a friendly note about why I didn't close them myself. czar  16:04, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

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Carpe Fulgur

Will you be handling the history merge, please (as noted in the AfD). I know it's a pain and I'd do it if I were an admin, but I'm not so I can't. Fiddle Faddle 07:50, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi User:Timtrent: I'm not an admin, so I can't perform history merges. NorthAmerica 07:54, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Barnstar of Diligence
For helping me get through the learning process of non-admin closures and displaying a great amount of civility and due diligence in catching it. ♥ Solarra ♥ ߷ ♀ Contribs ♀ 07:55, 24 May 2014 (UTC)