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There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is BLP violations, wikilawyering, and tendentious editing by Tdadamemd. Thank you. NeilN 00:36, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
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I'm asking that you please refrain from repeating statements such as the following which I find offensive and an unfounded attack upon my character. They are untrue and are often echoed in forums where such discussions on editor conduct is not permitted. I am trying to rapidly improve but numerous editors have made these untrue statements about me for which there is no evidence and I am having difficulty responding (or not responding). I know that you feel I am confusing criticism of my writings with personal criticism. However no example of my writing relating to what you are referring to below has been presented by anyone and I would appreciate it if you would please refrain from doing it and also ensure others show restraint as I take it personally. I've requested this repeatedly on my talk page and that of the entry being discussed. I appreciate guidance and comments such as "I don't think anybody thinks you were or are acting in bad faith. You must in turn remember that the other editors were acting in good faith as well, and expect to engage them and to persuade rather than to confront or accuse." Comments such as these left on a dispute resolution noticeboard or and edit complaint without the specific example and a link of what I'm allegedly "pushing" are a problem and I would ask that comments such as these be removed: "On the article side, he's trying to present a fringe conspiracy theory as fact" "The complainant appears to be trying to push the article into granting credence to a fringe subject using his personal interpretation/synthesis of tangential sources. He has been advised of potential fringe science sanctions." Thank you. John.Johnvr4 (talk) 18:29, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
- You called three good-faith editors' edits vandalism, apparently because you disagree with the edits: the diffs are right on your talkpage, twice. You've been asked repeatedly to stop doing that. That is the issue at hand. Acroterion (talk) 18:54, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
- I got the diffs, for some reason I thought it was you I had "accused." We are talking about that issue on my talk page. But, I think I've grasped it this time. Can we talk about the issue I've brought to your attention above? We certainly don't have discuss it further. I only ask that you consider my request and if possible a truce. If you could possibly treat me as you would an almost borderline autistic person I think we would get along perfectly. Thanks John
- Johnvr4 (talk) 00:31, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
- We've got lots of people on WP on the Aspergers and autism spectrum, and it's very helpful to know that so we can interact productively. Misplaced Pages is in general a welcoming place under those circumstances (it wouldn't exist in its present form without such editors), and I know several editors who identify as Aspergers or autistic. All we ask is that you stop and consider that your perception of a situation might not match the views of other editors in cases like this, and that we can help you see a problem, or at least let you know that a problem exists, where you might not be able to perceive it. It doesn't always work out, but it helps to know how easily you discern other peoples' intentions. From experience it had occurred to me that it might be an issue here, but it's not something that's easy or even appropriate to ask. In return, please remember that we want to help you, and that other editors aren't your opponents, even if they disagree with you. Acroterion (talk) 01:40, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
- Yes sir, I appreciate that. I am slow on the etiquette but very good with rules once I grasp them. I have failed miserably to date. Thank you Acroterion! John
- Johnvr4 (talk) 15:23, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
- Acroterion, Can you drop by the talk page of 'that entry' that I'm trying to improve. I've apparently recently put some tags that other editors feel are questionable or inappropriate. I suppose it's no problem to remove them because I think I've read somewhere that they can be removed and text changed during a disagreement or dispute. I don't want to get into an edit war, have an uncivil discussion, or lose my cool again.
- I've discussed some my concerns on the talk page and the competency of those discussions and how you feel they can be resolved are what I'd like you to check for any you're doing it wrong. Any suggestion or advice for me (on my Talk page) or in discussion on the Talk page of 'that entry' is greatly appreciated. There's no hurry as some is still being discussed but it doesn't seem to be going anywhere and the amount of 'give' for consensus is about zero. I feel that if I can master editing a controversial subject then I can do almost anything. Could you possibly suggest a volunteer who could help me navigate the process and rules to formally resolve content disputes when consensus can't be reached or resolving conduct issues if they arise? Thank you again, John
- Johnvr4 (talk) 18:18, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
- Sir, I have explained that accusing me of pushing fringe or conspiracy theories is offensive. Yet you continue and without without one shred of evidence. "Both Johnvr4 and John Nobel are pushing a fringe theory in this thread against the mainstream view that the notion of chemtrails are a popular conspiracy theory."
- We've got lots of people on WP on the Aspergers and autism spectrum, and it's very helpful to know that so we can interact productively. Misplaced Pages is in general a welcoming place under those circumstances (it wouldn't exist in its present form without such editors), and I know several editors who identify as Aspergers or autistic. All we ask is that you stop and consider that your perception of a situation might not match the views of other editors in cases like this, and that we can help you see a problem, or at least let you know that a problem exists, where you might not be able to perceive it. It doesn't always work out, but it helps to know how easily you discern other peoples' intentions. From experience it had occurred to me that it might be an issue here, but it's not something that's easy or even appropriate to ask. In return, please remember that we want to help you, and that other editors aren't your opponents, even if they disagree with you. Acroterion (talk) 01:40, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
- I'm not sure how to stop this.Johnvr4 (talk) 20:48, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
- Criticism of your proposed edits is not a personal attack, nor does it mean that other editors think you're a bad person. Whether you think so or not, you appear to other editors to be trying to alter the article to present the conspiracy theory as a factual event, and that, in the view of most other editors, is a problem. We understand that you're acting in good faith, and you mustn't treat good-faith objections as personal attacks. We can only respond based on what we see in your contributions. Acroterion (talk) 01:49, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
- I am attempting to differentiate actual events from conspiracy theory and explaining where the theory came from. If you take issue with historical and documented facts, then your arguments is doomed. You are making up B.S. about me and throwing baseless accusations veiled as "criticism" and I want it to stop immediately. If you see someone else doing, It stop them. You cannot provide one single example of what you are talking about with my actual edit or my proposed edit or my comment in a discussion. Therefore, the concern is baseless and the expression of that baseless concern in the way you are doing it is a lie. Stop now.Johnvr4 (talk) 14:56, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
<outdent> You know a little farther up in this conversation where you noted that you had a little trouble with perceptions and etiquette? You're having that trouble now. Please slow down, take a deep breath, and try to accept that nobody is out to get you, nobody's telling lies, and that the issue is that whether you intend it or not, your suggested edits and behavior on the talkpage aren't getting the reactions you desire. You're responding to criticism of your edits with an escalating chain of accusations that, as evidenced in your comment immediately above, are out of proportion to the rather mild criticism that your proposals have received. Please remember that perception is everything, and that your perception of the situation seems to be out of synch with that of other editors. Criticism is not the same thing as an attack: the concerns by several editors are real and are part of the give-and-take of writing about a fringe topic. Your perception of the impact of your edits does not match the perceptions of other editors. That is all that's happening. Acroterion (talk) 15:20, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
- If you or another editor can show me where this perception is coming from, I might be able to understand it. So far no one has shown me, I don't understand it and don't think is well-intended criticism. It is an attack on my character. That is how I perceive it, I've explained that is it offensive to me yet you persist. I consider it baseless and the repetition of the concern it without foundation. Are you just repeating someone else's concern or can you please show me a specific line in my edits that is the basis for your concern? How does one respond to perception if you won't tell me what specifically you are talking about? Some amount of basis for a concern speaks volumes about intent. Please share it.Johnvr4 (talk) 19:03, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
- I'm sorry you perceive it that way. When I get a little time (I'm at work and backed up with tasks) I'll see if I can boil it down to something concise. In the meantime, please take a walk, eat a sandwich, enjoy the day. There's plenty of time, we're on no deadlines, and we're all volunteers trying to write an encyclopedia, sometimes with misunderstandings and miscommunications. Acroterion (talk) 19:14, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks I'd appreciate it.Johnvr4 (talk) 19:27, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
- Please take this seriously. Do you think you can have something by Monday?Johnvr4 (talk) 14:26, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks I'd appreciate it.Johnvr4 (talk) 19:27, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
- I'm sorry you perceive it that way. When I get a little time (I'm at work and backed up with tasks) I'll see if I can boil it down to something concise. In the meantime, please take a walk, eat a sandwich, enjoy the day. There's plenty of time, we're on no deadlines, and we're all volunteers trying to write an encyclopedia, sometimes with misunderstandings and miscommunications. Acroterion (talk) 19:14, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
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Legacy Building Solutions
Hello Acroterion!
I created a page, Legacy Building Solutions, for a big company that sells fabric buildings. They are the number one company that sells fabric buildings and many references were included within the article. I will fix the parts that seemed too promotional and not factual, I'm just asking you to please reconsider the deletion. I would sincerely appreciate it. Have a great evening. Thank you.
-Mandi Renfroe — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mandirenfroe (talk • contribs) 02:18, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
- I'd be happy to place the deleted content into a sandbox in your userspace for you to work on. Please think encyclopedia (plain, matter-of-fact Dragnet style prose), rather than marketing prose. See User:Mandirenfroe/sandbox in a few minutes. Acroterion (talk) 02:27, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
- By the way, those images don't look like they're free - they appear to be found images from the Internet, and will probably be deleted. Additionally, please work on demonstrating notability through reference to major third-party media. See WP:CORP. Acroterion (talk) 02:30, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
Thank you so much for that. The images were given to me from the owner, free to use, however I'm not sure how to prove that I have permission to use them. I will do my research before I write or post anything else again! Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mandirenfroe (talk • contribs) 03:26, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the love :)
Hey Acroterion... thank you for the quick response hope your doggy is better...and you are doing well. I ram into a few "time snags" but will be back in gear next month or so.. Much love, Poekneegurl Poekneegurl (talk) 03:53, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
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Jeanne Calment edits
Hi! You wrote me a message about my edits in Jeanne Calment article, supposing they are unconstructive. Sorry for my poor English (I'm from Russia), but my edits were correct: I had only corrected the mistake of the previous edit of "23:47, 21 March 2014" made by user "24.210.252.93", who misunderstood the sense of record dates. Please, look by yourself: in the first record-box Florence Knapp finished to be the Oldest recognized living person NOT in 1888 but in 1988, when she died, etc. I guess, user "24.210.252.93" misunderstood the record dates thinking they are the dates of lifespan (from birth to death) of the supercentenarians mentioned, but it is not so. Best regards, LevGr from Russia.--128.72.232.152 (talk) 03:59, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
- You're right, maybe to infobox needs a comment to prevent confusion. Please accept my apologies for the warning. Acroterion (talk) 11:19, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you very much--128.72.232.152 (talk) 18:19, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
Grateful if you could let me know why you deleted my page "Testee Awards" for G3 Vandalism — Preceding unsigned comment added by TesteeAwards (talk • contribs) 22:39, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
Page removal
"No explanation of significance (real person/animal/organization/web content/organized event))"
Page was about a real person whom more people know of than other "public figures" also featured on this site, why is the page still removed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by XHarriz (talk • contribs) 01:35, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
- See Misplaced Pages's guidelines for notability of individuals at WP:BIO. Notability is defined as significant coverage by major independent media with a reputation for fact checking and reliability. If you can provide three newspaper articles about the subject, you've got notability covered. Acroterion (talk) 01:59, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
User:UFO and Bermuda Triangle
See User_talk:UFO_and_Bermuda_Triangle#April_2014 and JoeSperrazza (talk) 01:37, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
Nerds and Monsters - deleted?
Hello Acroterion,
I'm with Slap Happy Cartoons - we produce an animated series called "Nerds and Monsters" (currently airing on YTV Canada and CiTV UK) which we've asked the editors to write an article for - and in clicking the link I noticed that you have deleted a page associated with it (copyright infringement I believe.) We didn't write anything, and I'm not sure who did - we simply requested an article be written. Do you need anything from us that will help in the writing of the article? Thanks so much! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vacant3 (talk • contribs) 04:13, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
- The version I deleted was clearly copied from elsewhere on the Internet. There is no prejudice to re-creation, though as someone with a conflict of interest, you should read WP:COI and approach the subject carefully. Acroterion (talk) 02:27, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
Will do. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vacant3 (talk • contribs) 14:17, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
Pennsylvania State Police
I added a misconduct section tot his page, and it is not completely bad, I think. But I have messed up the reflist. There is something called RefList2 att he bottom of the page, but it does not show the cites for my new section. So I added a RefList as I usally do, and that seems to have gummed up the works. Little help? Paul, in Saudi (talk) 09:41, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
- You just messed up the closing term (you did <> instead of </ref>) in one ref. Fixed now. Acroterion (talk) 02:29, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you. Paul, in Saudi (talk) 02:43, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
Creating a page for 'FRANKIEonPCin1080p'
I'd like to start a page providing basic information regarding the very popular youtube content creator for several video game breakthroughs. Please advise. Thank you!
- If the subject has received significant coverage in major independent media, then it would meet the general notability guidelines. Please review WP:GNG and WP:WEB to see if the subject qualifies. Acroterion (talk) 02:35, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
Dance101
Hi Acroterion, You have recently delete page Dance101. Could you please advise if the article requires a re-wording or it is completely unacceptable? Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dlikane (talk • contribs) 02:24, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
- It would be fine for the studio's website, but it was inappropriate for Misplaced Pages, as it was promotional in tone. "Located 3 minutes from Chadstone Shopping Centre, this fantastic venue is available to everyone, first timers, regular social dancers, competitors, performers, kids, mums, big people, small people, people from all walks of life" and "DANCE101 offers a wide range of dance lessons and with the new HQ, its getting bigger by the minute" are hardly the sort of prose expected in an encyclopedia. Furthermore, there was no indication that the business is notable by Misplaced Pages's standards. Please see WP:CORP for more on notability. If it's notable enough for inclusion in a global encyclopedia, which appears to be doubtful, it would need a complete rewrite. Acroterion (talk) 02:35, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
HAER links?
Hi, thanks a lot for adding the HAER links to Oregon Electric Railway. I was going to poach one of them for Tonquin, Oregon but I see that the links don't work. Is the site down or did something else go wrong? Valfontis (talk) 19:08, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
- The site's up. Maybe they changed the path so the template won't work? Elizabeth Linden Rahway may be able to help. Acroterion (talk) 19:31, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
- I think I figured it out--the links appear to be lacking a forward slash at the end of the url. Valfontis (talk) 19:36, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
- You needed a leading zero, not a slash. Per the template documentation, the ID "Always consists of a two-letter state abbreviation (all lower case) followed by four numbers." Elizabeth Linden Rahway (talk) 22:06, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
- I think I figured it out--the links appear to be lacking a forward slash at the end of the url. Valfontis (talk) 19:36, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
Richard Ramirez
Hello, Acroterion, just thought that I should notify you that Richard Ramirez is not living, so there cannot be a violation of the biographies of living persons policy for edits pertaining to him. Cheers.Hoops gza (talk) 19:11, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
- I'm aware of that. However the BLP violation was the insertion of a fictionaln account of an attack by Ramirez on someone's teacher (who was named), all of which has been revdel'd. Acroterion (talk) 19:29, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
Ricky Castorena
Hello. So I had created a Misplaced Pages page for the author named Ricky Castorena. He wrote the book entitled "The Marked" and is writing a new book, thankfully. But before I could finish, you had deleted the page. I saw the tag about references and I was beginning to add them but the page was deleted before I could do so. I ask that it be put back up or I be allowed to recreate the page. While yes, he isn't widely known throughout the world, he is still an author and is known by a few people in my home town and his home town and I feel that he deserves a Misplaced Pages page. Again, I ask that the page be put back up or I be allowed to recreate it.
RevanCrow95 (talk) 00:13, 6 April 2014 (UTC)RevanCrow95RevanCrow95 (talk) 00:13, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
- You've got it backwards. Misplaced Pages documents pre-existing notability. It isn't a place to promote someone or to provide publicity for a subject that hasn't yet received significant notice in major third-party media. Misplaced Pages is a world-wide encyclopedia, so subjects should be known by more than a few people in their home town. Acroterion (talk) 01:10, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
- Oh by all intentions, I had no means of promoting him or anything like that. It's just a lot of people ask me about him when I bring up what book I am reading and when they say they have never heard of him, I thought that a Misplaced Pages page would be good place for people to at least learn about him. But I had no intention of promoting him or anything like that. But I understand if I am not allowed to recreate that page for him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RevanCrow95 (talk • contribs) 02:58, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
- No apologies needed. He just needs to become notable before he would be eligible for an encyclopedia article. Happy editing! Acroterion (talk) 03:02, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
Evidence
Can I have evidence of your claims that this IP has a history of abuse? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.144.168.83 (talk) 14:16, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
- You mean the history of copyright violation, distortion of sources, undue weight and POV pushing at Kik Messenger, all from a series of Telstra IPs that have necessitated two protections, with the added feature of a gross personal attack from one of those IPs against another editor that I had to revision-delete? The attack removed any reasonable supposition of good faith on that subject from that IP range. Acroterion (talk) 14:43, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
Telstra is Australia's largest ISP, any evidence that this exact static IP address was responsible for every single edit? Intuitive thought, not logical, assumption, not fact. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.144.168.83 (talk) 15:19, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
- You're not fooling anyone. If it had been a named account instead of a highly dynamic IP, it would have been permanently blocked for the attack. With your highly dynamic IP (Telstra IPs are more frequently changed than most), the next best approach is to place long-term protection on the article. Acroterion (talk) 17:32, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
World Trade Center controlled demolition conspiracy theories
Did I just do an oopsie? Isn't that a WP:1RR? Cheers Jim1138 (talk) 18:28, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
- Not that I'm aware of. Acroterion (talk) 18:30, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
To Acroterion
Dear Sir/Madam
I have finished reading your message and here's mine; You may remember me for my views on the JFK assassination and poorly reduced edits. Ever since then, I have now realized how it was stupid of me and that I was not following the rules. I am now ready to provide sources and not write what is most likely or what may have happened but just write both sides of an argument and let readers come up with their own conclusions. Thank you for giving me another chance.
Signed Glen Barker
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.15.154.130 (talk) 21:17, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
- I appreciate your comments and your enthusiasm for Misplaced Pages. I think everybody who's talked to you has been convinced of your good intentions, and it was with great reluctance that I blocked your access. You have my good wishes, and please feel free to ask if you have any questions or are unsure if something's appropriate. Acroterion (talk) 21:21, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
P.S. I am sorry for not sighing comments. I know very little of writing.
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Bears
I am changing brown bear to grizzly bear in Alaska-related articles because it is wrong to call any North American subspecies of Ursus arctos, coastal or non-coastal, a "brown bear." Brown bears and grizzlies are considered a single species nowadays and calling coastal subspecies brown bears and inland ones grizzlies in irrelevant and stupid. In Russia and Europe, they're called brown bears, but any North American subspecies is a grizzly bear and that's a fact. I know many people still refer to coastal ones as brown bears, but they're wrong. Please stop changing any edits I make that change "brown bear" to "grizzly bear" in North-America related articles.
From user 98.246.222.227 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.246.222.227 (talk) 18:32, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
- I'm aware of the distinction and the generally confused nature of the common-name taxonomy of bears in Alaska: however, you're changing sourced material to your preferred version without citing sources and against common usage. Grizzlies are, of course, a subspecies of brown bears, and the inland populations are commonly called grizzlies,and the coastal populations are usually called Alaskan brown bears. Your opinion that the common naming conventions are "irrelevant and stupid" aren't sufficient justification to go against sources. Please cite sources. People may be wrong, but Misplaced Pages goes by common usage in most cases: see WP:COMMONNAME. I'd suggest that you discuss this at Brown bear, where it will attract the most attention: while I sympathize with your desire for clear-cut naming, this appears to be based on your opinions about the appropriate common naming convention, rather than on the actual usage of the term. Misplaced Pages is not a place to mount a campaign to get Alaskans, the Park Service, FWS, etc. to start calling them grizzlies. Acroterion (talk) 18:39, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
You have a new message on the Anderswarr talkpage. Anderswarr (talk) 18:39, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
Animal welfare
I'm letting you know that that disruptive IP hopper is back. --Tryptofish (talk) 22:01, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
- I've blocked the latest IP and re-protected the article for a longer term. We'll see what follows. Acroterion (talk) 22:10, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
Impersonation?
Hello Acroterion,
A message was left on my talk page with your signature. I believe this to be disruption by an IP editor. So this is a heads-up. Take care. Cullen Let's discuss it 17:10, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
- I think it was a confused IP who I had previously warned, who copy/pasted the warning. They're not editing now, so it's probably best ignored. Acroterion (talk) 21:05, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
Your user page
I checked it out following your edits here and, just for shits and giggles: 1) the European date form uses no commas except in sentence fragments, so your lead sentence should read "I've been a Wikipedian since 22 July 2006 and an administrator since 19 November 2007."; and 2) "Barnstars and and awards" has an extra "and". xD —ATinySliver/ 22:46, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
- A copyeditor! I know an encyclopedia that needs your help ... oh, um, yeah. You can tell I've assembled the page over time (hence the and and), and that I'm no European. I'll skip the West Virginia jokes, though and pick a date convention. Acroterion (talk) 01:34, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
- FWIW, I'm a life-long Californian who uses the European convention, date and time—for example, my sig shows "01:50, 15 April 2014 (UTC)". As for that encyclopedia that needs help ... well, let's say there are some good reasons why I stick to my own little "tiny sliver". xDDD —ATinySliver/ 01:50, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
- You are wise, this place has some pretty shady neighborhoods. British Isles, for instance. I've learned a great deal about deep-seated national animosities. Acroterion (talk) 01:53, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
- Ah, yes, animosities can be deadly. So can indifference. xDDD —ATinySliver/ 01:59, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
- I know what you mean: Biscayne National Park became an FA only after MONGO made a determined effort to drag in reviewers kicking and screaming for me. If you're patient, I'll give the article a GA whack (I don't have the experience to do an FA review), but it may take a while, and I mean months. I'm in the middle of 10,000 home projects, and a job change that involves travel and a management role at a firm 10x bigger than my former organization, so my participation on WP is down. I'm having trouble putting together more than 15 minutes at a time on WP. Acroterion (talk) 02:12, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
- Ah, yes, animosities can be deadly. So can indifference. xDDD —ATinySliver/ 01:59, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
- You are wise, this place has some pretty shady neighborhoods. British Isles, for instance. I've learned a great deal about deep-seated national animosities. Acroterion (talk) 01:53, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
- FWIW, I'm a life-long Californian who uses the European convention, date and time—for example, my sig shows "01:50, 15 April 2014 (UTC)". As for that encyclopedia that needs help ... well, let's say there are some good reasons why I stick to my own little "tiny sliver". xDDD —ATinySliver/ 01:50, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
(←) In that case, I'd say you're doing well at the moment (xDDD). As for the article, my gentle rant should explain why I'm not going through that again. Ever. —ATinySliver/ 02:23, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
new user
There is a page on Devajyoti Ray. He claims to have founded a term pseudorealism for his work type. Any person who has some knowledge in the field of Arts would know that his contributions, even though he has cited references to a few newspapers and magazine articles are of mediocre standard. It is due to the concern for others who greatly depend on wikipedia for knowledge that this page should be deleted. Firstly because, Ray says he has exhibited abroad but there is no references added in his page to prove it. Secondly, he has no right to add his own name with other great painters of contemporary art when he himself is just another mundane and insignificant artist. I personally don't have an idea how to delete the page, could you please help me out here? Thanks for your patience. Ps. Another user has stopped my edit proceedings regarding them as disruptive editing. But i feel it is very important to do the needful changes immediately. And there can seldom be any sources or citations to prove a person's works mediocre so as to make this editing not disruptive; I am at a loss of what should be done. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Notredane (talk • contribs) 08:13, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
- Please use the article's talkpage to discuss your concerns with other editors, remembering that Misplaced Pages doesn't make judgments concerning quality, value or alleged mediocrity. If there are multiple substantial reports in reliable sources, that's what counts. Acroterion (talk) 00:56, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
Hello
Hello there, I am just letting you know that Worldnewstomorrow has created a page European Centre for Information Policy and Security (ECIPS) may be user is part of that organization and he/she tagged his/her own page for (primary sources) I don't know why he/she did so( may be user has conflict of interest). I tagged it under WP:CSD#G11 as the article seems to serve only to promote the idea(in current form). Page only relies on self-promotional sources. It would be better if you just review this page once. Best regards: A.Minkowiski 12:40, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
- Also, the user himself removed speedy deletion tag. A.Minkowiski 12:43, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
A nice note?
Might it be possible to unblock User:Khan218 and User:Skypink55 with a nice note? Though their edits appeared vandalism, they were trying (rather naively) to fix this vandalism.
All the best, Rich Farmbrough, 22:02, 17 April 2014 (UTC).
- Sure, thanks for pointing that out. Acroterion (talk) 22:23, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
Re: "A sniper"
Yes, they certainly *are*, aren't they... Their emphasis on Lincoln's smile is what caught my eye. Shearonink (talk) 13:47, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
- This particular editor also seems to have an occasional habit of inserting bare URLs as refs... Confession time: getting tired of having to come behind them and fix things. Shearonink (talk) 16:12, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
An idea
Is an article entitled List of Notable Persons convicted of Crimes Related to Paedophila a good one or a bad one? I am very pleased I started the List of Notable Drug-Related Deaths. Paul, in Saudi (talk) 12:08, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
- Congratulations: you've discovered Misplaced Pages's third rail. It's one of the biggest landmines on WIkipedia. As I recall there was once such and article, an its deletion/reinstatement/deletion was a cause of spectacular wrangling, blocking, wheel-warring and bitter accusations of bad faith. If you want to see how ugly things can get around here, that'd be a quick and efficient way to learn. Anybody who undertakes such a list should be wearing asbestos underwear and have a comprehensive understanding of WP's BLP policy (preferably at the doctoral-dissertation level), a recent, comprehensive and successful history of litigation through the Arbitration Committee, and a detailed understanding of the WMF's paedophilia-accusation policy. Acroterion (talk) 13:20, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you. Paul, in Saudi (talk) 02:30, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
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Reg Deleted Page Kaleen
Please don't delete this page. It provides useful information to people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yashbaldawa.4 (talk • contribs) 12:02, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
- It was promotional material that does not make a credible case for notability. Please don't use Misplaced Pages for advertising. Acroterion (talk) 12:12, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
Reg kaleen
Could you enlighten me further on the deletion of the page Kaleen? I have not mentioned about the assets of the company and also you might not find the history of the company elsewhere. Please confirm. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yashbaldawa.4 (talk • contribs) 12:25, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
- Please see WP:CORP for the notability guidelines relating to companies. There was no credible assertion of notability for the company and it was promotional in nature. Misplaced Pages is not a business directory. Acroterion (talk) 12:51, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
Thanks
...for the redlink back. :D Yobol (talk) 01:11, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
Sorry
I'm really sorry about that. I promise I won't ever do that again--Hacienda Guy (talk) 20:44, 23 April 2014 (UTC)Hacienda Guy
- And don't move your userpage and talkpage to another account: if you want to change your name, please ask at WP:CHU. Acroterion (talk) 20:46, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
Comet Miniatures
Hi Acroterion,
I have rewrite the description for Comet Miniatures. It has been a very important model maker for more than 25 years and as such, I think it is pertinent to have it in Misplaced Pages. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pensees2008 (talk • contribs) 12:31, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
- You are going to need some references to go along with that, else it will probably be deleted. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 12:33, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
- To be important enough for inclusion in Misplaced Pages, it will need multiple references in third-party media. See WP:CORP for notability guidelines for businesses. Simple existence is not enough: it must have received coverage in media outlets or scholarly sources. Acroterion (talk) 12:35, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
- I don't have old news coverage but in the recent one, there is that one that cover the essentials: http://www.scalemodelnews.com/2013/11/comet-miniatures-end-of-era-but-dawn-of.html .--Pensees2008 (talk) 16:13, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
- That helps a lot, but it would be good if there was coverage beyond the enthusiast press. Any coverage in regular news outlets? Acroterion (talk) 17:01, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
- I don't have old news coverage but in the recent one, there is that one that cover the essentials: http://www.scalemodelnews.com/2013/11/comet-miniatures-end-of-era-but-dawn-of.html .--Pensees2008 (talk) 16:13, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
JFK assassination
Hello and good day,
I believe the addition to the JFK assassination page of the theories featured in my book are appropriate. What I propose is a completely new viewpoint to the assassination, one that should be considered by anyone seeking the truth about what occurred 50 years ago. By posting the text, people may have more of an objective point of view with all perspectives presented.
Thank you for the consideration.
Mark Shaw — Preceding unsigned comment added by Markshaw (talk • contribs) 17:13, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
My book
Hello again -
I don't quite understand how listing my book as a reference on the JFK Assassination page is in error re promoting the book. Any book that focuses on the assassinations should be included. This permits those interested in the truth to learn of all points of view regarding the JFK assassination.
Thank you, Mark Shaw — Preceding unsigned comment added by Markshaw (talk • contribs) 17:15, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
- In general, authors are discouraged from citing their own works on Misplaced Pages. It's not an ironclad policy, but it helps to keep promotion down. This may be a little tiresome for serious scholars, but it keeps promotion within tolerable limits. Since this is a freely-edited work, people are very sensitive to potential promotion. I'd suggest bringing up your proposed edits and your source on the article talkpage to see if other editors will form a consensus in favor of your edits and source, and whether it represents appropriate emphasis within the context of the article. For more, see WP:COI and WP:SELFCITE. Acroterion (talk) 17:59, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
- I think another editor has suggested that it may be better to look to John F. Kennedy assassination conspiracy theories for a place. Acroterion (talk) 18:04, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
Thank you
I have intentions to improve some architecture articles, including the intention to find the time...ArchibuffArchibuff (talk) 18:06, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
- Time is always a problem. Just remember that we have no deadlines here, and do what you have the time for. Acroterion (talk) 18:08, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
The sclafani effect
I have witnessed the sclafani effect, it is a common problem with household 3d printers. It is an important article because it explains the shortfalls of direct printing to 3d printers. It is not named after me, my name is not sclafani. Why was it deleted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheOstrander (talk • contribs) 01:57, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
- Because it is a non-notable undocumented neologism that appears to have been made up.Acroterion (talk) 02:26, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
Category:Fortifications of Switzerland in the 20th century
Category:Fortifications of Switzerland in the 20th century, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. The Bushranger One ping only 03:11, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
That 92.15.141.xxx/92.15.13x.xxx assassination/conspiracy editor
I'll confess...I am really getting fed-up with having to be their own personal Wiki-maid, always having to scrub-up after their edits (see editing history at Lincoln's Ghost.) Either the content is excessively POV and/or poorly-sourced and/or the references are malformed. Is there anything that can be done? (Yeah, I know, one thing I could do is stop keeping an eye on all those persistent vandal-targets like Presidential/assassination/conspiracy theory articles...) Shearonink (talk) 17:36, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
- I've left another note at their most recent IP assignment. Acroterion (talk) 20:11, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
Jeremy McGovern
The deletion log say's you deleted a page at Jeremy McGovern. I'm guessing you're also the one that protected it. If so could you please unprotect it to move Jeremy Mcgovern to there to fix the caps. This new article has nothing to do with the previous mass deletion. Thanks. duffbeerforme (talk) 10:16, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
- I wasn't the one who protected it (JamesBWatson did it), but having a live article in place of the protected empty article accomplishes the same thing. It's been moved to the correct capitalization. Acroterion (talk) 12:13, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
William Withers, Jr. and his coat
William Withers, Jr. coat; http://civilwar.gratzpa.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/prod_2498WithersSlashedCoat-001a.jpg
Who is speculating now?
Re
Ok, no need to be so harsh and angry. I will do as you said. Vernapenny (talk) 15:19, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
- I'm not angry, just concerned that you were getting carried away. Just be careful: there are people on the other side of those usernames, and there's no need to slap tags on the accounts. Acroterion (talk) 15:24, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
Yes I already stopped Vernapenny (talk) 15:45, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
- No you didn't, you tagged a user without good cause three minutes ago. Acroterion (talk) 15:46, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
I have. Vernapenny (talk) 15:54, 5 May 2014 (UTC) Here: Template:User Washington DC — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vernapenny (talk • contribs) 15:54, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks, that's the right way to do that. Don't move templates (really, don't move anything without careful consideration). Acroterion (talk) 15:56, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
Thanks
Thanks! , FYI Yogesh Khandke (talk) 03:23, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
Biscayne National Park
You deleted an edit I made to the BNP page about the lack of a concessionaire at Convoy Point. Your comment mentioned that there are "other concessionaires." Who? Where?
The gift shop is boarded up. There are no tour boats; the boat slips look like they haven't been used in months. There are no canoe/kayak/paddleboat rentals. The only food and drink is provided from two vending machines hurriedly installed next to the restrooms.
A park ranger told me yesterday that they're in the middle of the bidding process for a new concessionaire, and at best, park concessions wouldn't resume until sometime next year.
And Convoy Point is the only place where a concessionaire operated as it is ... There are no concessions out on Elliot Key.
Right now, people who go to Convoy Point by car have little to do other than visit the Visitor Center, walk along the boardwalk, or have a picnic (as long as they brought their own food). If they bring their own canoe, windsurfer, etc., they can use it on the bay.
But tourists who show up expecting to enjoy a day's activities -- especially if they've come on the Trolley and don't have their own source of transportation -- will find themselves stuck on that little spit of land with nothing to do and nowhere to go.
BNP's own Web page shows a "Park Alert": "Boat Tours, Paddle-craft Rentals and Select Conveniences Temporarily Unavailable - Glass-bottom, snorkel, diving and island boat tours, and rentals for canoes and other paddle-craft, are temporarily unavailable. The park is working to resolve the issue as soon as possible and regrets the inconvenience. Limited snack items are available." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Celavin (talk • contribs) 17:51, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
- I understand, but it's not appropriate to place of-the-moment notes to visitors in an encyclopedia article, much less in a featured article. Misplaced Pages tries not to be a travel guide. Discussions of defunct concessioners are more appropriate for WikiVoyage, which is a travel guide (and which is linked from the article). The situation is of no lasting importance, though for the next few months it would probably be appropriate to insert "for the 2014 season no concession services are available at Convoy Point" and leave it at that, with the reference. Perhaps some minor rewording to take out "concessioner" for the time being if there are no formal arrangements available anywhere. An analogy would be that the article on Glacier National Park (U.S.) doesn't go into discussions on the long-drawn-out renovations of the Going-to-the-Sun Road, which has resulted in restricted seasons and shutdowns. Acroterion (talk) 18:12, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
Thanks
Hi Acroterion, I spent a good amount re-doing the copy in the page your deleted a while back that I posted. You can find the updated version in my sandbox. Please take a look and let me know what you think and if this is ready post live again. https://en.wikipedia.org/User:Tbuck2012/sandbox. Appreciate your feedback! Thanks so much!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tbuck2012 (talk • contribs) 20:38, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
- It's a lot better, and well referenced. It could be pruned somewhat: unless the individuals on the board of directors are themselves notable, they probably shouldn't be included. External links should also be pruned to the basics: they tend to impart a promotional shee, which still exists to some degree and which might draw objections. Other than that, I think it could live in article space. Acroterion (talk) 21:15, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
Thanks so much for the feedback!! Best Regards. --Tbuck2012 (talk) 22:13, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
Rescue Row
Microchip08 talked to me about improving Rescue Row, so it wouldn't be deleted. Please see the discussion at the bottom of his/her talkpage and he/she may want the article to be restored. Piguy101 (talk) 22:06, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
- They are welcome to a userfied version once the creator registers a username that doesn't represent the SPCA. There's a good chance that there's coverage that could cover notability, but the article's far, far too promotional and indicates that the creator doesn't understand that Misplaced Pages isn't a free webhost for good causes. Acroterion (talk) 22:08, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
- I agree that it was very promotional as I even suggested changing the db to 11. It was a mix up on my part as well. Thanks Piguy101 (talk) 22:12, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
Could you un revision delete the message on my talk page?
I would like a record of every message left on my talk page, unless it is grossly NSFW. 123chess456 (talk) 02:16, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
- No. In point of fact, since it was present in every version from that point onward, you can see it in any recent revision, but I will not restore the original disruptive edit to your userpage. Acroterion (talk) 02:25, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
You deleted a page that I was in the process of creating?
Hi, I saw that some of the other comments were rude so I'll try not to be rude as well. I just noticed that you deleted a page that I had created called Quanta Science Magazine? I was wondering if you could possibly tell me why, because now that it's deleted, I have no access...
Thanks, Imtheangel7283 (talk) 21:45, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
- The article was deleted because it didn't indicate that the subject was notable. All Misplaced Pages articles must pass the notability guidelines, and there is no indication that this student publication is notable enough for inclusion in a global encyclopedia. If the publication has received substantial notice in major media on more than a purely local level, then it would probably satisfy the notability standard. If you think you can develop the article enough to meet the guidelines, I'd be happy to place it in a sandbox in your userspace. Acroterion (talk) 21:51, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
Talkback
Hello, Acroterion. You have new messages at A delicious pot pie's talk page.Message added 02:39, 12 May 2014 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
123chess456 (talk) 02:39, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
- I've said everything I intended to say there. The editor created two trolling accounts, their first edit was vandalism (whether the edit filter intercepted it or not is immaterial) and they concealed their origins with the new account rather than making an unblock request from the original account as they were advised to do. However, as always, any admin is welcome to unblock without my prior approval if they are satisfied of the user's good faith. I'm on travel to a project site the next two days, and again next week, so I will not be dependably available during those times.Acroterion (talk) 11:46, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
Page request
Hello Sir , if Bibek Bhattarai is real person then can i create the page or not ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bbkbhatt (talk • contribs) 02:30, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
- No, you need to be notable too. See WP:ENTERTAINER, WP:NOTE and WP:BIO. Acroterion (talk) 02:46, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
- And stop promoting yourself. I've deleted the pictures you've uploaded: Misplaced Pages isn't a free webhost for dozens of images of yourself. Acroterion (talk) 02:51, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
James Harley McCormick page deletion
I wanted to check some facts about Jim McCormick, a many time winner of the Washington State Chess Championship, but found that you had deleted the page about him for lack of the subject's importance. I would think that being a many time Washington State Chess Champion would qualify him as important, especially given his intense rivalry with Viktors Pupols (who has a Misplaced Pages page), the nature of that rivalry (it included a fist fight during a game -- chess, not hockey), a distinctly unusual personality and history for a chess champion (he worked as a welder), and the influence he had on chess culture in the Seattle and the Pacific Northwest (out which came players of national, international, and World Championship caliber (Duncan Suttles, Peter Biyasis, and Yasser Seriwan). Can you give me an idea of your criteria for importance? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.240.201.15 (talk) 06:26, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
- Considering the deleted entry went (in its entirety) "Goes by James McCormic, or J-swagg. He is the hottest man alive," it's possible you're talking about a different James Harley McCormick who might be notable, However, a bald assertion that someone "is the hottest man alive" will not sustain notability. Take a look at WP:BIO for the detailed criteria, which don't, as far as I know, mention hotness. I'm not convinced that a state chess championship is grounds for inclusion, but it's a lot more credible than the original entry. Acroterion (talk) 14:12, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the clarification. If there was no previous version that had been vandalized then it seems as though someone trying, not very successfully, to be funny. Looking at the criteria you referenced, I think he would meet those for "Any Biography." 1)The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor, or has been nominated for one several times. 2)The person has made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in his or her specific field.
I suppose the question then shifts from "importance" to the definition of "well-know" and "widely." I can tell you there are many Misplaced Pages articles about people far less important in the chess world than than Jim McCormick. Someone should create a page about him, but in the words of the bard, "It ain't me babe." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.240.201.15 (talk) 14:57, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
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A kitten for you!
Thank you!