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04:23:34, 18 June 2014 request for review by Mdnoorna



June 13

01:56:49, 13 June 2014 request for review by Janisadore

Hello, I've submitted an article, which was rejected. I added material, including more references by third-party publications, and it was again rejected. It sounds like the tech business and industry journals i've cited (including TechCrunch, Gigaom, and Wall Street Journal) are not recognized as valid citations by the editors who reviewed. I've since added a Financial Times citation as well. Is it possible to request a reviewer with knowledge of tech industry publications, or are such industry publications considered by definiton invalid?

In the meantime, I'm working on expanding the article further, but I wanted to get some advice on the validity of the citations before I put too much more work into it.

Thanks for any help you can provide.

Janet Janisadore (talk) 01:56, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Hey! Welcome! Is it Draft:Ecwid that you are talking about? Or another page? Your message is not so easy to understand. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 04:04, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
Looking at it, some of the citations are mere notices, or routine notices of funding, or mentions in an article without any substantial discussion of the specific subject (like the Huffington Post article) . Some others are clearly just press releases, like ref. 3, or Businesswire. The WSJ article is a press release, not an article: it says, right at the top, in red, "The Wall Street Journal news department was not involved in the creation of this content. PRESS RELEASE". You should limit it to those references providing substantial coverage from 3rd party independent published reliable sources, print or online, but not blogs or press releases, or material derived from press releases. What works best is true 3rd party product reviews in depth. If you have them, then there's the basis for an article. DGG ( talk ) 04:32, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

01:58:10, 13 June 2014 review of submission by Mikey909


Mikey909 (talk) 01:58, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi, I have a problem. I have been asked by a friend, musician Rick Rosas, to post his bio on Misplaced Pages. He is a noted session bass player for such professional musicians as Neil Young, Joe Walsh and the Buffalo Springfield.

I wrote up his biography but couldn't find a way to include the references I used, almost all were from Misplaced Pages. The article was rejected. I have edited many Wiki articles but haven't uploaded anything in years. I don't recall this being so complicated before. How do I include the references and how do I type in the small numbers to indicate those references?

Thanks, Mike Thomas

Hey Mike! Which music magazines or newspaper music reviews or things like that wrote about Rosas? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 03:59, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
Hello Mikey909, for footnoting see WP:Referencing for beginners. Also note you cannot cite Misplaced Pages on itself, that would be circular logic. MatthewVanitas (talk) 15:43, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

03:47:56, 13 June 2014 review of submission by Bloosteak


Bloosteak (talk) 03:47, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

"Symbol opinion vote.svg Comment: No extensive coverage in independent nor reliable sources, therefore non-notable. FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 14:24, 12 June 2014 (UTC)"

This is an arcade game and it's sold in China and Southeast Asia. I have a reference of Chinese media covering its launch. Arcade games are generally not reviewed in gaming media. How is it possible to establish notability in this field? Is there a list of qualified Southeast Asian or Chinese media?

See similar wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/Dance_Evolution Also lacks notability but is approved

Existence and launch is not sufficient to prove notability. You are welcome to continue to work on and improve the article Dance Evolution if that is what you are interested in. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 03:56, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

05:12:54, 13 June 2014 review of submission by BeaumontStreet


Hi Just checking if this submission has been received and is waiting for review? Thanks

BeaumontStreet (talk) 05:12, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Yes it has and is. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 05:49, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

09:41:35, 13 June 2014 review of submission by Hpcn8888


As suggested by the Reviewers, I have revised above entry with major content and notable revisions on 24 March 2014. Please advise status of review and any comments? Many thanks Henry

Hpcn8888 09:41, 13 June 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hpcn8888 (talk • contribs)

Your submission, Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Successful Business Dealings & Management with China Oil, Gas & Chemical Giants was declined by Libby norman on 18 March, and has not been resubmitted since then. You can resubmit it by pressing the blue submit button, but I advise you not to do so at this stage as the article still reads like a promotional piece for a book, that is largely only cited to self-published and primary sources, and is likely to be declined again. Ritchie333 09:48, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
Hpcn8888: To be a little more exact, what works best are book reviews providing substantial coverage from 3rd party independent published reliable sources, print or online, but not blogs or press releases, or material derived from press releases. Not Amazon, not reader-contributed content, but reviews in major professional or trade journals. DGG ( talk ) 03:52, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

10:15:43, 13 June 2014 review of submission by KM1977

I want to check only that I have submitted my wikipedia draft page to teh correct place. I clicked submit draft in sandbox and it says that it was submitted but when I went to teh AFC page I could see it was in my personal page. Do I need to go to teh yellow box under my draft box in sandbox and move it to another location for review? KM1977 (talk) 10:15, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi. Your submission is queued for review and should be reviewed at some point. There is still a backlog of around 450 submissions as I write this, but attempts are being made to reduce this. One point I would make is to have a read through our guidelines for reliable sources for medicine to check the sources you have supplied meet these. Ritchie333 10:33, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

11:40:58, 13 June 2014 review of submission by Mulayrahul


I had submitted the article https://en.wikipedia.org/Draft:Vikas_Joshi. It was declined and the reason cited was that the references do not adequately evidence the subject's notability. I have added neutral references - industry articles, articles from business publications, interviews as well as the awards and speaking engagements. I request a re-review to understand what else will be required.

RM (talk) 11:40, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

You've already submitted the draft for another review, so you don't need to request anything here separately. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 12:02, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
Thanks Demiurge1000. The reason I requested review is that, if there is something that needs to be added/changed, I would rather know it sooner than having the article declined again for the same reasons. RM (talk) 12:44, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
Accepted, now live. Bellerophon talk to me 14:06, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

12:11:32, 13 June 2014 review of submission by WhistleblowerOz

I submitted my first page this morning but I cant find it any where. how do I find out whether I submitted it properly WhistleblowerOz (talk) 12:11, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Your only edit to Misplaced Pages under this account is here, and you haven't told us what the article is called, so I'm afraid I cannot help you. Ritchie333 13:01, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

16:04:40, 13 June 2014 review of submission by Almhath


Almhath (talk) 16:04, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Hello. I have been trying for months to develop an article for Joseph F. Ware, Jr., founder of the JFW jr Advanced Engineering Lab at Virginia Tech and flight test engineer in charge of everything at Lockheed Skunk Works from the P-38 Lightning to the U-2 and the SR-71. https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Joseph_F._Ware,_Jr.&oldid=611708040 I have been learning the process to create the article. But I am not finding the status of my latest revision (5 June). Can anyone tell me or where I go to f ind it? Or how to fix it if it's not okay?

Joseph Ware, Jr. is well regarded at Virginia Tech and at the Lockheed Skunk Works. His contributions have been extremely notable in the area of aerospace engineering, U.S. defense and reconnaissance.

I have many photos, many of them originals that I have taken, including such as one with Jack Real https://en.wikipedia.org/Jack_Real , friend of Joe's and whom Joe hired at Lockheed, Willis Hawkins https://en.wikipedia.org/Willis_Hawkins , friend and former executive at Lockheed...etc.

I am his wife, widow.

It seems to me that the article I've been trying to create for Joseph F. Ware, Jr., is at least as specific and authentic, but I'm having trouble doing it right per wikipedia's guidelines? I'm guessing?

And finding someone to help at Misplaced Pages is almost impossible. EXAMPLE: I get referred to the Teahouse, but when I type my question (like the first paragraph here), and end with 4 tildes, still the Ask my Question button on screen does not illuminate, and I cannot click it.

Thank you for any help you can give.

Thank you Jenna Ware (wife/widow)

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Hi. I had a look for sources, and Cmdr Ware does appear in several, not least the Virginia Tech laboratory named after him. To me, that qualifies him under our guidelines on academics as a named appointment in a significant academic institution, so the article should be passed. I have now done this and it can be found at Joseph F Ware Jr. I have also added it to the Military history WikiProject, who may be able to help develop it further. Ritchie333 16:30, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

delete my account

kindly delete my username and user page

delete my account

kindly delete my username and user page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bonface Momanyi (talk • contribs) 17:29, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

This page is for questions about the Articles for creation process. Please consider asking this question at the Misplaced Pages:Help desk. - This is where editors will try to answer any question regarding how to use Misplaced Pages. Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. You could always try searching Misplaced Pages for any help related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps! APerson (talk!) 16:58, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

18:49:16, 13 June 2014 review of submission by EBstrunk18

Hello, Recently, I submitted an article for creation on an ice cream company called Salt and Straw. I am in no way affiliated with this company, other than I once ate their ice cream and wanted to know more about the company. While looking at Google results, I believed the company would easily pass the WP:CORP threshold. Plus, I really wanted to create my first article. Unfortunately, it was declined because of the very thing for which I originally noticed subject: notability. After reviewing the page again and moving references around and adding another, I'm confident the company would pass the notability threshold. However, I understand that my view could be skewed since I'm the one creating the page. If that is the case, and I'm missing something, could someone please indicate what the secondary source are missing. Maybe WP:CORPDEPTH? Something else? Any thoughts, comments, suggestions are more than welcome. Thanks for all your help!EBstrunk18 (talk) 18:49, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

EBstrunk18 (talk) 18:49, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

  • This is one of our longstanding dilemmas. The notability of the establishment at Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Salt and Straw seems to depend upon the many published discussions in the press, based primarily on the oddness of its flavors. This is intrinsically not a very secure basis for notability, but some of the discussions are substantial and in adequately reliable sources for the subject. They presumably are based to some extent on press releases, but I think the coverage is nonetheless genuine. It is therefore notable by our general guideline WP:GNG. But it may none the less not be suitable for an encyclopedia -- the policy here is WP:NOT NEWS, which supersedes the GNG. In a situation like this, no individual should make the decision--I would normally at this point accept it, and let the inevitable Articles for Deletion discussion decide.
But I suggest you improve the article first. It was not obvious to me from the article what the press coverage was about: I had to go read the sources. You need to add a few sentences to the article indicating this to the reader, because that's what the reader will want to know. And to make this clear, the references should be used to support the relevant parts of the article, not all listed generally at the end: Since most of the comments are about one particular flavor, the reverences for that point should go in the text after that statement. DGG ( talk ) 21:32, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
Hi DGG! Thanks for the helpful comments. I'll make the changes, then resubmit, and see how it goes. Again, thanks for your help. Best regardsEBstrunk18 (talk) 22:19, 13 June 2014 (UTC) 22:17, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

19:25:13, 13 June 2014 review of submission by Piwowath

why was it declined? Piwowath (talk) 19:25, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

The draft is apparently Draft:North Mountain Lookout. (It would have helped me to say that when you asked the question) The key problem is that it needs more specific references. You referenced darringtonareabusinessassociation.com and summitpost.org, but you need to specify the exact link to the relevant website page for the first, and the specific link, and the day of publication and article title for the second. You then need to put the references i the text of the article so we can see what they actually support. See WP:REFBEGIN for the method. I am not sure whether this campsite would be considered notable , but it would help greatly to find additional sources, such as from printed guides to the areas or mentions in books or other published sources. DGG ( talk ) 21:13, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

20:24:40, 13 June 2014 review of submission by MarkMillerITPro

I tried to clean up the categories into the "box" of categories, but upon hitting preview, I couldn't see the result. Anyone willing to put the article's categories into the nice looking box format? MarkMillerITPro (talk) 20:24, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

MarkMillerITPro (talk) 20:24, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

You can probably see the result correctly if you edit (then preview) the entire page, rather than just the last section. However, it would be better to leave the categories where they are until the draft is accepted, because those type of categories are only supposed to be in accepted ("mainspace") articles. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 21:23, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

D'oh! TY! MarkMillerITPro (talk) 22:30, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

June 14

09:53:21, 14 June 2014 review of submission by HectorDavie


I have created the new page "Canal d'Entreroches" (English), and have added links from a number of other pages. As far as I can see, only one of these links works (from "Éclépens"), and others link to "Mormont" ('redirected from Canal d'Entreroches'). I also cannot add my English page under the 'Language' header on the sidebar of the French or German pages entitled "Canal d'Entreroches" (Q1032679) - I receive a message that the Mormont page (Q1948256) is already linked. These seems to be a conflict here that I cannot resolve without your help! (Pages such as the index page "Canals in Switzerland" have both links - the link to "Mormont" should be suppressed as it is unhelpful.) HectorDavie (talk) 09:53, 14 June 2014 (UTC)


June 15

21:47:05, 14 June 2014 request for review by Pat Kelso

Moved from a very unlikely location on an editnotice talk page

Gentlemen, the below is self-explanatory. I hope you might help.

Dear Mr. Vanitas: I would like to submit (resubmit?) my editing of Perspective projection under Perspective (Graphics), https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User:Pat_Kelso/sandbox&action=submit, for review. It seems to be blocked by a "black list"(??) If you might give me a pointer, it would be appreciated. (See: https://en.wikipedia.org/User:Pat_Kelso/sandbox) Pat Kelso (talk) 23:20, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
Hello Pat Kelso, I'm not really a technical guy, so suggest you enquire at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk instead, to reach a wider/savvier audience of reviewers. MatthewVanitas (talk) 23:25, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Pat Kelso (talk) 12:26, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi Pat Kelso, I've moved your sandbox draft to Draft:Perspective (Graphics) as you seemed to be requesting and I have placed a draft template on it, as it appears you have not finished it yet. I notice you have another submission at Draft:Perspective projection, what would you like to do with that submission? Bellerophon talk to me 21:59, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
Dear Mr. Bellerophon I am still feeling my way along here. It is my understanding that my first draft, of Perspective projection, a subsection of Perspective (Graphics), was declined because of a "black list." I do not what that is though it sounds ominous. What I would prefer is to zap that submission. As I am still updating my editing of the piece, I would prefer not to submit it until I feel it is in better shape. There are errors in the published article as it now stands and I plane to keep the errors and show the corrections. By the way, is it more convenient for you to correspond through this site or my talk site? Your indulgence if appreciated. Pat Kelso (talk) 03:38, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
Hi again Pat Kelso, your first submission was declined because it seemed to duplicate an existing topic Perspective projection which, interestingly, is merely a redirect to Perspective (graphical). To be clear, the reason your submissions have been declined is because you appear to be trying to write articles about subjects that already exist on Misplaced Pages. Any message you got about a blacklist was simply because you put a link in your submission to website on Misplaced Pages's blacklist. You won't be able to save a page if it includes a blacklisted URL, I had to remove one such URL from your sandbox in order to move the page to the title your requested. Bellerophon talk to me 08:15, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

02:56:38, 15 June 2014 review of submission by Bloosteak


Bloosteak (talk) 02:56, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

The reliable sources list does not cover China/SE Asia and hardly any arcade sources (arcade gets a small % of coverage that consoles get). What could I possible source to make my article notable? I already have one Chinese media.

03:17:23, 15 June 2014 review of submission by Bloosteak


Bloosteak (talk) 03:17, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi, this article is about as notable as all the other arcade dance games sans dance dance revolution. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/Pump_It_Up

@Bloosteak: other pages do not set a precedent for this one. If poor p

03:25:06, 15 June 2014 review of submission by Svarshavsky


I have edited and re-submitted my article a while ago. Is there any chance to know if it has been accepted? Thank you. Sergei

Svarshavsky (talk) 03:25, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

This has not been accepted yet; it is still awaiting its next review. You will be informed on your talk page the next time it is accepted or declined. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 03:30, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

06:55:44, 15 June 2014 review of submission by Dhayalan94


Dhayalan94 (talk) 06:55, 15 June 2014 (UTC) ISKCON Ipoh... this is my page .... and ithave been deleted and this is what stated --> This is your only warning; if you use Misplaced Pages for soapboxing, promotion or advertising again, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. DGG ( talk ) 00:27, 15 June 2014 (UTC <dhayalan> kindly plz help me....why deleted ...im new and this is about non profit organisation then hw coud there be any advertising or promotion... so plz state what i shouldnt include on the article

Obvious troll. Somebody block them please. Bellerophon talk to me 09:54, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

08:33:18, 15 June 2014 request for review by FAcebook88

Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Ahmed Sabbour OR Draft:Ahmed Sabbour

Please I need to know the reasons behind the decline of my article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FAcebook88 (talk • contribs) 08:33, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

@FAcebook88: You are confused. You are dealing with two different copies of essentially the same article plus a third article like the other two so I'll address each separately.
None of these submissions can be accepted. Please read all of our content guidelines before you attempt to continue editing. Chris Troutman (talk) 20:49, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

09:47:58, 15 June 2014 review of submission by Diana.dya07


Diana.dya07 (talk) 09:47, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

@Diana.dya07: It is not in English. This is the English Language WIkipedia and articles in non English tongues are not appropriate. Fiddle Faddle 22:01, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

16:40:44, 15 June 2014 review of submission by Righttrack


Questions re: comments on newly published article

An article I wrote on musician Eliot Lewis was just published. However, there's a notation on it that "A major contributor to this article appears to have a close connection with its subject. It may require cleanup to comply with Misplaced Pages's content policies, particularly neutral point of view." I was asked by Mr. Lewis' manager to write the article, but I don't know Mr. Lewis. Are there specific passages in the article that caused this concern? What do I need to address to get this notation resolved and removed?

Thank you!

Righttrack (talk) 16:40, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

The issue is conflict of interest per se. Fiddle Faddle 17:00, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Oh ... I didn't realize Mr. Nichols identified himself as Mr. Lewis' tour manager. Phil Nichols created the righttrack account and was going to write the page, then contacted me to do it instead. Since he had entered the basic bio information and discography, I wrote teh rest of the page in the righttrack account. But my name is Kellye Norris. I'm a freelance journalist with about 20 years of experience in print and online communications. Check me out on LinkedIn. (I'm the one in Dallas.) BTW, I have my own Wiki account now--username KellyeN1220. Any future pages will be written in my account under my Wiki user name. Righttrack (talk) 16:40, 15 June 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by KellyeN1220 (talk • contribs)

I should add ... I wasn't paid to write Mr. Lewis' page, and I did all my own research. I worked for free because most of my paying clients are technology companies, and I wanted the opportunity to write about something besides application virtualization in a private cloud. Righttrack (talk) 02:01, 16 June 2014 (UTC) KellyeN1220

June 16

00:23:48, 16 June 2014 review of submission by Drowning Worms


Hello there, I'm afraid I just had my first submission rejected. I would like to address the issues and resubmit but I have included as many references as I could think of and don't think there is anything in there that's not verifiable. I believe the person I have written about is noteworthy enough to deserve inclusion, but I'm not sure what to change. Can you help me by making some suggested edits? Thanks in advance and apologies. Best wishes, James Drowning Worms (talk) 00:23, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

@Drowning Worms: I'm going to leave a comment on the draft for you. Fiddle Faddle 19:11, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
@Timtrent: Thanks Tim - I really appreciate you taking the time - most useful. Drowning Worms 04:50, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

01:58:22, 16 June 2014 review of submission by Garryanas

Thanks in advance for helping me. My article was rejected on two claims. First, the authors notability. A quick look into wiki shows me that several authors that are less notable have been included. Here is one example: https://en.wikipedia.org/Nathaniel_G._Moore

Next, the citations were questioned. However, they are all from publisher websites, so I am not sure how verifiable they can be. When I look at https://en.wikipedia.org/Deborah_Willis_%28Canadian_author%29 it seems that she has the same or similar sources.

Please help me to clarfiy how or if I can improve this article. Otherwise, is it possible to have another editor look at it for a second opinion.

Thanks again.Garryanas (talk) 01:58, 16 June 2014 (UTC) Garryanas (talk) 01:58, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Publishers publish books, and booksellers sell books, so they are not independent sources such as are required to prove notability on Misplaced Pages.
The existence of other inadequately referenced articles is, I'm afraid, not a reason to create more.
Citing substantial independent reviews of Little's work, for example in major newspapers, might be the best way of establishing her notability. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 08:33, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

02:26:19, 16 June 2014 review of submission by Granitedesk


I am pleased that my new article on author Daniel James Brown has been accepted. I find it if I enter Daniel James Brown in the Misplaced Pages search box; however, I don't get a result when I Google "Daniel James Brown Misplaced Pages". Next steps? Thanks in advance for your help. Granitedesk (talk) 02:26, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Granitedesk (talk) 02:26, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

It has been five days since the article was accepted, so give Google a few more days to catch up. I can't see it where I would expect in Google either yet. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 08:27, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

04:08:47, 16 June 2014 review of submission by Maniac1992

I need help with my article but can't find reliable sources

Maniac1992 (talk) 04:08, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

05:34:03, 16 June 2014 review of submission by Mcgama88


I humbly request review toward the submission via sandbox, as I view the index case in trisomy, or downs syndrome, to be rather of interest to a wide population as live birth incidence has been suggested at 1/1000. Further, the suggested data allows mature female care providers a mechanism of reduction in live birth numbers.

I submit that details of this submission deserve your care and addative resource. To allow the interested observer a time scale, an early woodcut suggested case observation in the 17th century. The subsequent increase in population will allow some actual case numbers in world specifics to emerge. Further, the larger coherent viewpoint to reader is that there should be some hope toward theraputic. While not discussed specific to the topic, I suspect a certain regard for research view would be premised in that an advance in model presents a view towards a difficult chromosomal assay.

Mcgama88 (talk) 05:34, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

@Mcgama88: no Declined Your submission looks like original research, not an encyclopedic article. Your submission has no sources at all. Much of your submission, like your post above, is incoherent and I can only assume that you're not a native English-speaker. In any case, your submission is too technical and lacks enough context for the general reader. Chris Troutman (talk) 05:47, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

07:04:54, 16 June 2014 review of submission by Nmwalsh


Nmwalsh (talk) 07:04, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

I'm new to Misplaced Pages. Somebody has commented that my company page is not sufficiently notable. How do you make a company page notable. I have shown it's origins, shown it's standing in the Chamber of Commerce, it could not be said to be advertising since the activities of the company is implicit in its name "Admiral Pest Control". What else should the page have so that it is acceptable. Nmwalsh (talk) 07:04, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Notability is established by references showing significant coverage of the organisation in independent reliable sources. WP:42 summarises this. If such coverage does not exist, then nothing you can do will make the organisation notable. Incidentally, the Chamber of Commerce would not be considered an independent source for this purpose.
Looking at your draft, there is certainly some coverage of the organisation in local and specialist publications, even if some of it is not really about the organisation as such, so I will leave it up to someone else to consider the re-review that you have requested on the draft. If you can add any more press coverage, that might help.
Looking at the topic as a whole, the organisation does seem to be a relatively unremarkable - albeit successful - small family firm in operation for less than a century, so would not normally fit within Misplaced Pages's requirements for an encyclopedia article. Despite another editor's comment, I am not sure that trying to create an article about Jeff Jones would fare any better. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 08:23, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

12:10:51, 16 June 2014 review of submission by Karinsoika

Hi, I am struggeling to get the above draft reviewed. What I do not quite understand:

Question 1: Is there a different policy of accepting submissions, depending on the country? I had ZERO problems to get http://de.wikipedia.org/Robert_Schotter accepted. What I want is just an English version of it, with identical content, for international readers. I am trying since April... Are US-submission guidelines different from German guidelines? Isn*t there a GENERAL Misplaced Pages line?

Question 2: Is there another way of offering an English version of an German Misplaced Pages article?

Question 3: TimTremt declined the article as in his eyes ist is a "List of Movies" - is creating https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=List_of_movies_by_Robert_Schotter&action=edit&redlink=1 an option for me? And linking that article then to the German Robert-Schotter-Article?

Question 4: What is the Robert Schotter page supposed to contain then? Private information? Went to school... travelled to... married... divorced...hobbies?? Is that really of public interest? Isnt an award won not enough to extablish notability?

Thanks and regards, Karin

Karinsoika (talk) 12:10, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi. The German Misplaced Pages does have different standards and a slightly different culture to the English one. For example, article length is watched more closely on that Misplaced Pages compared to here, while we focus more stringently on content and referencing. The article over there was created in 2009, and may have just had a better chance of slipping through the quality control net.
As for what needs to be done here, simply put, the article should talk about what reliable sources such as books, magazines and newspapers have said about him, which will probably be his film career and the critics' responses to it. His personal life is generally irrelevant; while it would be useful to know his date of birth, we err on the side of caution when dealing with articles about living people. I had a look for appropriate sources via a quick google search, but didn't obviously find anything, though there is another Robert Schotter who is a US Marine who has some coverage. This is a shame, because if I found one source, I could point at it as an example. You might find some success doing a search through German newspapers if any are online. Unfortunately, without those sources to hand, we can't reliably determine why Schotter is important, which unfortunately means he can't have an article at this time.
There is a process by which articles in other languages can be translated into English - see Help:Translation - but the guidelines for notability and reliable sources will still need to be adhered to.Ritchie333 12:20, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Hello Ritchie333, thank you for your very helpful reply. I'll give my article another try soon... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karinsoika (talk • contribs) 13:38, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

12:17:28, 16 June 2014 review of submission by Shantu.khanduri


Shantu.khanduri (talk) 12:17, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

The first line of your draft read "Understanding Competitor Price Monitoring and Why You Need It for Your Business". I have marked it for speedy deletion as blatant advertising. Ritchie333 12:24, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

17:55:13, 16 June 2014 review of submission by Warrenchase


Recently corrected bare link references on an article that was accepted but set under "Start Class" level. Is there another vehicle for review after changes like this have been made? As the article is added to/improved and additional references are linked to it will it improve from "Start Class" upward?

Warrenchase (talk) 17:55, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

The lower levels of article quality can be reviewed by anyone on a relevant project, though in practice these can get out of sync and are often ignored. The major exceptions are good articles and featured articles which require a formal review, especially for FAs which undergo a rigorous review process. If you think André Harvey (sculptor) is now at C-class, simply be bold and change the assessment tags on the talk page. Ritchie333 18:01, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for your advice Ritchie333 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Warrenchase (talk • contribs) 19:02, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

18:02:55, 16 June 2014 review of submission by Dadonnino


I would like help on how to get this article submitted. I and my colleagues have been attempting this often for a few months now, and with only basic knowledge of Misplaced Pages it has been proving much more difficult than originally thought.

Please help! Thank you Dadonnino (talk) 18:02, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

@Dadonnino: There are no shortcuts, I fear. The draft article, if reviewed today, would be declined because it has no inline citations, and is about a living person. Take it slowly. Read WP:REFB, WP:CITE, and add references. The issue you will face is that there are tough criteria for references. They must be independent of the person, must be significant coverage,and must be in WP:RS.
By the way, your mention of colleagues will cause some questions to be asked. We have a "One person, one account" policy. You are very welcome top collaborate with your friends and colleagues as long as either you alone operate the account, or they create accounts and join in as distinct editors.
One thing that will help you is WP:Mentoring. Do consider it. There are, as I have said, no shortcuts, but you will find mentoring a very useful learning tool. Fiddle Faddle 18:54, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Review of Draft:Grant Sorensen

Accepted move to Grant Sorensen as a Australian volleyball article Molly (talk), 18:19 16 June 2014 (UTC) Accepted move to Grant Sorensen as a Misplaced Pages article, Molly Ann (talk) 18:21 16 June 2014 (UTC) Accepted move as a article on Misplaced Pages Molly (talk), 18:37 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Please stop using the accepted template. The draft will be reviewed soon enough and this page is to ask for help. This load of stuff just put me off reviewing it. We're human, you see. Fiddle Faddle 18:47, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

19:19:23, 16 June 2014 review of submission by Ruba.atallah


Hi I would like to know what kind of authorization i need to obtain from the owner of the photo to be used in the info box? in this case Mr. Salameh is the owner of the picture i used and later was deleted. Thank you for your kind help in advance Ruba.atallah (talk) 19:19, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

I believe Misplaced Pages:DONATEIMAGE covers what they would need to do. There are a few options there; any one of those options would be enough. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 15:22, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

20:03:48, 16 June 2014 request for review by Amaya3562


My name is Amaya and I am an intern at Intellect Press in Wilmington NC. I have articles about the magazine I want to upload on Misplaced Pages, and I've edited 10 articles in order to be able to do so. However, I don't know where to go from here still. Where can I upload the article? Thank you for the help, Amaya — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amaya3562 (talk • contribs) 20:03, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

@Amaya3562: The lesson here is that you should have waited for our reply. You created Intellect Press after posting this question and that article is going to be deleted. Please read our guidance on writing your first article as well as our guideline on reliable sources and an explanation of general notability before you make further edits to Misplaced Pages. Chris Troutman (talk) 06:46, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

21:34:06, 16 June 2014 review of submission by Sandra-nyc


Sandra-nyc (talk) 21:34, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Hello,

I created a second article as a draft however I can't find it anymore. My sandbox allows me to see the first article I created only. Do you know where I can find my second article?

Thanks in advance!

Best regards,

Sandra Delabaere

@Sandra-nyc: Are you referring to Draft:Sanjay Laforest? Darylgolden 23:38, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

June 17

01:09:34, 17 June 2014 review of submission by Joffanaut


Joffanaut (talk) 01:09, 17 June 2014 (UTC) Just requesting some assistance. WE created a card game we'd like to publish on Misplaced Pages. Is there anyway we can get a source for the accuracy of this type of article when the authors are the actual source?

@Joffanaut: Misplaced Pages is not a place to publish your ideas. You cannot use self-published sources so your submission cannot be on Misplaced Pages. Chris Troutman (talk) 06:07, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

01:14:32, 17 June 2014 review of submission by Badnet123

My submissions has been rejected twice and I simply do not understand! I provided a number of objective references and still... Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Badnet123 (talk) 01:14, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

@Badnet123: We can separate your sources and the content they support into three groups. First, you have sources like AllMusic, EBay, YouTube, and the like that aren't reliable. All of the information supported by those links should be removed. Second, you have links like Pandora, mpressrecords, and the like that are selling music in some way; they're not critical sources for notability. The information they support can stay but they don't make the subject notable. The link to ASCAP doesn't mention the subject so it can't be used for notability purposes. either. Finally you have TV.com and Billboard. I don't think those two get the subject past our notability criteria for musicians. Chris Troutman (talk) 06:37, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
To clarify what Chris is talking about here, Billboard is probably the best source you have. It's got a track record of printing content with a good editorial reputation, and can be trusted to give a reasonably neutral and unbiased opinion on things. Unfortunately, it's only got a short amount of column space devoted to the subject. Still, it's a reliable source and should remain. AllMusic can be used as a reliable source, particularly with regards to reviews, as they can only be written by professional authors such as Ritchie Unterberger, and even discographies can sometimes be acceptable, though they should be used with more care. To sum up, if you can find more magazine or news sources like the Billboard one from a Google Books search, you should use those in the article, as it will become more obvious that we are dealing with a notable subject. Ritchie333 14:45, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

02:31:01, 17 June 2014 review of submission by Seattle2311


Seattle2311 (talk) 02:31, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

I submitted two creations on June 13 and 14th. One titles Richard (Dick) Welsh and the other National Association of Reversionary property Owners. I submitted both and both came back with critiques which I tried to address and then resubmitted. But I have not heard back on either one. I am afraid that I am not up to speed on Wiki nuances. Can you tell me when my submissions are now and some critiques I need to address?Seattle2311 (talk) 02:31, 17 June 2014 (UTC)?

@Seattle2311: I've invited you to try the Misplaced Pages Adventure as you need to learn the actual coding in Misplaced Pages. Each of your submissions lack reliable sources. Using your own EarthLink website doesn't cut it. Neither Dick Welsh nor NARPO is notable as there's no evidence that they have general notability or biographic/organizational notability, respectively. Neither submission is currently submitted for review so you can get those issues fixed before trying again. Chris Troutman (talk) 03:30, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

12:20:14, 17 June 2014 review of submission by Thejaswinij


Thejaswinij (talk) 12:20, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

That submission was declined on 16th June for the reasons given at the top of the draft page itself. Were there some parts of the reasons for the submission being declined that are unclear? If so, please let us know which parts are a problem so that we can try to assist you further. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 15:30, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

14:35:56, 17 June 2014 review of submission by 1.175.216.77


1.175.216.77 (talk) 14:35, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

That submission was declined on 16th June for the reasons given at the top of the draft page itself. Were there some parts of the reasons for the submission being declined that are unclear? If so, please let us know which parts are a problem so that we can try to assist you further. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 15:30, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

17:37:22, 17 June 2014 review of draft by Cnorthin

Thanks! I am in the process of creating a page. I have laid out the full article; my only trouble is with the sidebar template. I have found the page that explains how to format the headers, but this page does not explain how I can split the information into columns (e.g., "Founded" in bold, and "2004" unbolded, on the same line, separated by a uniform amount of space.

In my sidebar, for example, I want to have the following fields:

Founded 2004, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Key People Eugenie Birch

Hopefully this makes sense to you. I was having a hard time finding a page to explain how to do this. Thank you!

Cnorthin (talk) 17:37, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Hello Cnorthin. Infoboxes are a little more primitive than you might be hoping!
It works like this:
  1. Choose an infobox (e.g. Infobox company, Infobox person, Infobox musician). Use that template
  2. You then (mostly) have to use the fields already defined in that infobox, e.g. at Template:Infobox company you can use key_people = as it says on that page.
  3. You don't get to define your own labels and data (mostly)
Perhaps take a look at the infobox templates on a few existing companies to see how it works? Arthur goes shopping (talk) 23:29, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

20:27:41, 17 June 2014 review of submission by Nicole Cuillierrier


Hi there, this was an article on Misplaced Pages before and I have resubmitted as it was deleted some time ago. I am wondering what the article is missing to be published on Misplaced Pages. I would like to make the necessary changes and resubmit if possible. Please advise!

Nicole Cuillierrier (talk) 20:27, 17 June 2014 (UTC)Nicole Cuillierrier Nicole Cuillierrier (talk) 20:27, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

@Nicole Cuillierrier: I assume you are the social media strategist I've read about. I also assume then that you're familiar with the BBS concept of "Lurk moar." Your submission doesn't have sources that are both reliable and independent. Because of that, it does not appear the subject has either organizational or general notability. And if you are who I believe you to be, you have an apparent conflict of interest. All of the linked guidance is available for anyone to read. Had you consulted that guidance before submitting a draft you could have saved everyone some time. Chris Troutman (talk) 16:21, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

21:02:47, 17 June 2014 review of submission by MarkMillerITPro


Review of Draft:4INFO

Hi Timtrent.:Hi DGG.:Hi Drumlineramos JordanKyser22 or any other editor. I'm *confused* I had 250 references when ®amos said, "Although I commend the editor for the plethora of verifiable references" & he did imo an awesome job of wikifying the article for me. Then @Timtrent said the references were pr, & I went thru & got rid of the one I found that was I think prwire, Then @dgg pointed out possible notability on the basis of market share, and to my surprise I found references from Nielsen on basis of market share for multiple years, in several arenas. Now JordanKyser22 declined the article saying there's a lack of notability & references.

MarkMillerITPro (talk) 21:02, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

June 18

07:19:10, 18 June 2014 review of submission by 122.170.38.169


Hello Sir/Madam,

We have tried submitting Mr Rizwan Koita's profile here, but we faced some resistance saying that the content submitted is promotional in nature. We tried checking other similar profiles for individual wiki pages and found the language used on the similar lines. It would be of great help if you educate us regarding the concerned areas so that we can accordingly make the required changes.

Awaiting your guidance over the same.

Thanks & regards, User - Draft:Rizwan_Koita

122.170.38.169 (talk) 07:19, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Existing similar Misplaced Pages articles are of little use as examples unless they are of recognised quality. A list of recognised Misplaced Pages Good Articles about businesspeople can be found at Misplaced Pages:Good articles/Social sciences and society#Businesspeople. These would be better to use as examples to work from.
Another issue for your draft is establishing notability. If another editor's comment is correct, that a substantial proportion of the references provided do not mention Koita by name, then this may be insufficient to meet Misplaced Pages's notability requirements. Adding additional independent reliable sources that discuss Koita in detail would be required.
In addition, you should aim that the bulk of the facts stated in the article are sourced to reliable sources using inline citations. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 08:58, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

16:18:05, 18 June 2014 review of submission by Hiranyakeshi


Hiranyakeshi (talk) 16:18, 18 June 2014 (UTC) Declined for reliability of ref. Pl let me know how wiki judges reliability of ref. Do they read the ref? Or there is any automatic method? I am new to this subject of creation of articles and editing wiki. Pl give full guidance, esp on editing and reference acceptability criterion. Who are the administrators? What functions they have? Any qualification in the subject needed? Will revert on getting replies if still have any doubts. Thanks.— Preceding unsigned comment added by User:Hiranyakeshi (talk • contribs)

Hello Hiranyakeshi. Misplaced Pages:Identifying reliable sources as linked for you on your declined draft is a good place to start reading about how reliable sources are identified. www.academia.edu does not appear to satisfy Misplaced Pages's requirements as an established publishing house whose publications can all be assumed to be reliable. Misplaced Pages administrators do not have any assigned role in assessing the reliability of sources; such discussions can be contributed to by all editors. If you have any more questions just let us know. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 16:32, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
(edit conflict) @Hiranyakeshi: Try reading all of these:
I've also invited you to take try the Misplaced Pages Adventure. After you complete that, most of your questions should be answered. Chris Troutman (talk) 16:36, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

17:50:39, 18 June 2014 review of submission by D4web

I have been having a bit of trouble getting this page submitted. It has been declined twice now due to a lack of reliable sources, but I am having trouble figuring out how the sources are unreliable. The messages from the reviewers was a bit vague and I could use the help improving the sources. Could someone please tell me which sources are being referred to as unreliable and why?

also if I have a picture to use for this post, what would be the best way to add it?

D4web (talk) 17:50, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Hello D4web. You only have four sources; three of them are all from the same essentially local newspaper, and the other is not independent because it is where Weller works. The decline reasons given to you were not very helpful, apologies for that. The key issue here is notability. The newspaper coverage of Weller seems to be because of the shooting incident; this would not establish notability according to our guideline Misplaced Pages:ONEEVENT. Misplaced Pages:VRS might give you a better idea of the sort of coverage that is needed in order to establish the notability of an individual. You also have a great many statements about Weller and his family etc. in the article that are not supported by inline citations; you should aim to have inline citations for as many of these facts as possible. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 18:06, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

17:52:59, 18 June 2014 review of submission by Bogetveit


Bogetveit (talk) 17:52, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi, can I get some help to make a better layout and also put in the pictures from the <Norwegian Misplaced Pages site Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bogetveit (talk • contribs)

@Bogetveit: This isn't the place to ask for help with editing. Please visit the Teahouse and the reward board. I've tagged the article for WikiProject Military History but I can tell you now this is essentially unsourced. Chris Troutman (talk) 21:53, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

21:22:28, 18 June 2014 review of submission by D4web


I've been working on putting this article together and it had been denied before due to lack of references. I went through and did some heavy research to get more sources and I feel like it's ready to resubmit, but I'd like to get a pair of eyes on it beforehand. Are their any places were the references are insufficient? I also have a photo to use for the page, but don't know how to add it. I've gotten permission from the author to use the photo I just need to know how to add it.

Thanks!

D4web (talk) 21:22, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

First, adding lots of inline citations to material written by Weller is of little or no help in proving notability. In fact it may only confuse things. What you need to add is more inline citations to independent reliable sources that are written about Weller.
Second, permission from the photographer to use the photo on Misplaced Pages is not enough; they would need to agree to the conditions at Misplaced Pages:Donating copyrighted materials. (It may be easier to work on getting the article accepted first, and worry about the photo later.) Arthur goes shopping (talk) 21:34, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
@D4web: The dozen citations from the Reno Journal-Gazette are all about the incident where he was shot. Being notable for one event is not notability here. I don't think the subject passes general notability with those sources about the shooting. Chris Troutman (talk) 22:00, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the help today, I really appreciate it. I think I get what you guys are talking about. I'll read over the material you gave me again and see what I can do.

D4web (talk) 22:24, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

23:30:56, 18 June 2014 review of submission by Philraymusic


Philraymusic (talk) 23:30, 18 June 2014 (UTC) https://en.wikipedia.org/User:Philraymusic

No independent reliable sources therefore not suitable as a Misplaced Pages article. See Misplaced Pages:VRS for what you need. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 07:33, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
To expand on what Arthur mentioned, we need evidence of why Ray Parker is important enough to be listed in an encyclopedia. I see a claim that he was a member of the Washington D.C National Symphony Orchestra, but that generally isn't in itself significant enough. Did he have any mentions in the national press or make any widely distributed recordings? I had a look for sources and while it doesn't help that there's the far more notable Ray Parker, Jr., I found this entry in The Biographical Encyclopedia of Jazz - is that anything to do with him? PS: Arthur - don't forget to use {{AFCHD/u}} to notify someone that you've replied on the help desk. Ritchie333 09:52, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

June 19

14:25:17, 19 June 2014 review of submission by Hurtisjr


I don't understand how being the first at something in a US state is not notable. This is history. The Oregon Historical society recognized this as a notable event in Oregon history. What does being local have to do with it not being notable? This African American accomplishment in a US state is notable. I would think Misplaced Pages would allow others to be made aware of this accomplishment. Please advise. Thank you.

Hurtisjr (talk) 14:25, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

It is the coverage being local (and limited) that is the point, not the business being local. Misplaced Pages articles should include references to significant coverage of a topic in multiple independent reliable sources. Without such sources, the notability of the topic for inclusion in an encyclopedia is not proven. Misplaced Pages does not reproduce everything that is ever mentioned by any local historical society, otherwise we could just copy all of their web pages into ours, which would not produce a useful result.
It is quite possible that the bakery was also written about in detail by multiple different local or regional newspapers during its history. If so, including references to these might be enough to establish the topic's notability. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 16:27, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

14:43:18, 19 June 2014 review of draft by Pat Kelso


Pat Kelso (talk) 14:43, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

Pardon my obtuseness, but when I attempted to send for review my Sand Box newly edited, Perspective projection, subsection of Perspective (Graphics), there seemed to be a message at the top of the site that said it had not gone through for review but then at the bottom there is a message indicating it is in the queue for review. Am I in the right place to pose this question? Pat Kelso (talk) 14:43, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

Sorry Pat, this is a bug with the process. Your article is correctly submitted for review. In other words, the message at the bottom is correct, and the message at the top is wrong and can be ignored. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 16:21, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

15:27:22, 19 June 2014 review of submission by Helen SFPR


I am confused as to how my article about Sally Fischer Public Relations may appear biased. I have seen other articles about PR firms on Misplaced Pages that use their own websites as references, and they have been published. How, then, does my article appear biased?

Helen SFPR (talk) 15:27, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

The reviewer mentions reading like an advertisement as the main reason for the submission being declined, but I think this is slightly misleading. The bigger problem - in my opinion - is the other issue that the reviewer has highlighted, namely a lack of references to independent reliable sources that make clear the notability of the organisation. And here there is indeed a problem; of the references that actually mention the organisation, five of them seem to consist entirely of material provided by the organisation itself. Almost all of the other references either do not mention the organisation, or mention it only in passing.
Using existing Misplaced Pages articles as examples is rarely useful unless those existing articles are of recognised quality. You can find a list of recognised Misplaced Pages Good Articles about businesses at Misplaced Pages:Good articles/Social sciences and society#Businesses & organizations. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 16:19, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

(I'm just checking back to see the response to my original question and I don't know how to return to the response page. Disregard this)

Helen SFPR (talk) 19:08, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

20:32:10, 19 June 2014 review of submission by 75.144.208.10

I have attempted many times to create a wiki page for Polin Water > Parks https://en.wikipedia.org/Draft:Polin_Water_Parks , yet it > keeps being denied to “unreliable” sources. I am flabbergasted as to > how this is possible, because our sources are in fact, more reliable > than those found on pages in similar categories. Take these two slide > manufacturer companies for example: > > > White Water West: https://en.wikipedia.org/WhiteWater_West > > > Pro Slide Technologies: > https://en.wikipedia.org/ProSlide_Technology > > > Can someone please tell me how these slide manufacturer pages were > approved, but Polin’s has been repeatedly denied? > > > Also, I keep receiving the comments that the page sounds like an ad. > How is this possible? The page has 4 small sections a history, > location, their products and awards. What about the page, exactly > screams ad? Nothing says “we’re the best, contact us for prices!” it’s > simply facts. I do not know what else to do. Please help. 75.144.208.10 (talk) 20:32, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

The reviewer mentions reading like an advertisement as the main reason for the submission being declined, but I think this is slightly misleading. The bigger problem - in my opinion - is the other issue that the reviewer has highlighted, namely a lack of references to independent reliable sources that make clear the notability of the organisation. And here there is indeed a problem; of the references that actually mention the organisation, thirteen (or perhaps more) of them seem to consist entirely of material provided by the organisation itself. In addition, the InPark Magazine item about the 100 fastest growing companies appears to be a press release or derived from one, and thus is not independent either.
Do take a look at Misplaced Pages:VRS for the basics of what Misplaced Pages requires to establish the notability of a topic.
The reviewer also pointed out that the draft at present consists mainly of a list of products whose details are incomprehensible to anyone not knowledgeable about the particular industry, and that this contributes to making it read like an advert. I would agree this concern is a problem.
Using existing Misplaced Pages articles as examples is rarely useful unless those existing articles are of recognised quality. You can find a list of recognised Misplaced Pages Good Articles about businesses at Misplaced Pages:Good articles/Social sciences and society#Businesses & organizations. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 16:19, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

21:30:01, 19 June 2014 review of submission by Donaldjstewart


Donaldjstewart (talk) 21:30, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

I am new to wikipedia. I'm trying to submit a page from my sandbox and verifying that I submitted the page correctly— Preceding unsigned comment added by Donaldjstewart (talk • contribs)

Hello Donald. That draft is not currently submitted for review. Once you have finished working on it, you could submit it for review by adding {{subst:submit}} at the top of it.
You should read Misplaced Pages:VRS to find out what you need to add to the draft, and also Misplaced Pages:Conflict of interest. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 21:37, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

thank you, I was confused at the 'submit' page, and thought that I should just paste my contribution below that, but I did not...I just added {{subst:submit}} at the top of my page in sandbox and it seems to have been submitted...thanks again

Review of Draft:Dirk-Achim Pajonk

Acceptedmove to Dirk-Achim Pajonk as physician and olympic article 86.15.162.137 (talk) 22:12, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

Not accepted yet - wait your turn. Please do not use "accepted" templates in posts here - they will not influence the reviewers. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:29, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

09:15:15, 20 June 2014 review of submission by 82.51.38.53


82.51.38.53 (talk) 09:15, 20 June 2014 (UTC) please you have something from Robert kitson the famos painter

You could try asking at Misplaced Pages:Requested articles, but be sure to include details of independent reliable sources that discuss Kitson in detail, when asking there. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 17:49, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

09:26:38, 20 June 2014 review of submission by 101.161.56.131


Hi, I reviewed the feedback and added more links from news media to show 'notability'.

I was hoping to have a wiki page live for the Twins before the launch of their Debut EP. Is there something else I need to do ? Can you please offer assistance. Thanks

Peter_Aus

101.161.56.131 (talk) 09:26, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

I'm afraid they just don't meet the criteria at WP:BAND. Perhaps they will in the future. Bellerophon talk to me 22:07, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

09:50:48, 20 June 2014 review of submission by Not falling just floating

Hello. I would like to essentially re-write my page, in order to make it more academic and neutral. I also need to add many different pieces of information. How can I do this without being blacked by Misplaced Pages (for making too many changes at once)?

Thanks! Not falling just floating (talk) 09:50, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi. Misplaced Pages does not block (or black) people from editing for making too many changes at once. This can sometimes happen if you make large problematic changes to existing articles without properly explaining why, but since the page in question is apparently your own articles for creation draft, you can edit it as much as you like. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 13:52, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

10:35:34, 20 June 2014 review of draft by Jillmarston


This is my first attempt at writing an article and want to create a page for the school of which I am an employee. I want to create a info box to the right of my article and also a contents box but I can't see how to do this. My server is also blocking me from connecting to live chat. Help!

Thanks Jill Marston

Jillmarston (talk) 10:35, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi Jill, please take a look at Template:Infobox UK school and see if that does what you need. Let us know if you need any more help with it. Your draft seems to have a Contents box already (this is generated automatically once enough sections exist).
Do also read Misplaced Pages:Conflict of interest. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 13:50, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

13:25:20, 20 June 2014 review of submission by Bella3b65


Hi, I would appreciate any direction regarding the article above. I've spent over a year writing this article which is based on more than 20 different Canadian papers. At one point the entry was almost deleted because I was inactive for a while but it was restored with some minor edits. I assumed that the entry had basic approval then, and all I did after that was link the sources to actual pdfs of the articles online. I assumed it was better to link to the actual articles for proof than only citing them? I'm truly hoping that I can get this article approved without major editing. Can this article be looked at again and please consider looking at the actual articles cited to see that everything in the article is supported? Bella3b65 (talk) 13:25, 20 June 2014 (UTC)Danielle

Bella3b65 (talk) 13:25, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

15:30:46, 20 June 2014 review of submission by Luizfernandobrito

Hello! I'd like to know why my article wasn't approved. There is a Misplaced Pages article in Portuguese to describe the same thing - the way to score a penalty kick called Panenka (https://pt.wikipedia.org/Cavadinha). This move was created by Antonin Panenka, the footballer, and it is named after him. There are plenty of records of it in the internet, such as: http://www.givemesport.com/359715-antonin-panenka-the-simple-recipe-of-scoring-a-penalty http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/andrea-pirlo-panenka-penalty-andrea-3416154 http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1862842-history-of-the-panenka-penalty-in-15-slides Thank you! Luizfernandobrito (talk) 15:30, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

Hello Luiz. You may wish to add these additional sources to your draft, perhaps together with some of the facts from them, and then resubmit. The notability of the topic needs to be clear to the reviewer, and existing articles in other Wikipedias do not contribute to this because all Wikipedias have their own criteria for inclusion, which may vary widely. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 17:47, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

19:04:25, 20 June 2014 review of submission by Helen SFPR

I have a question about this draft. It has been rejected several times, for various reasons. My next plan to improve the draft--and hopefully get it published--is to restrict the information to stuff that is relevant about Bortolotto Possati's life, rather than her business. Would that work?

Thank you.


Helen SFPR (talk) 19:04, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

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