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Hello

Hello , i think you should take a look at article Prek Cali,you should take a look at my work there,every time i add any (real) information (with reference of course) about his biography,they just delete it and say that i have wrote it bad,etc,etc. The unreal information's are hugely supported by administrators,which support Serbian-communist propaganda. They are disinformation with unreal facts,and unreal story's based in Albanian and Yugoslavian communist literature. In every Albanian article they try to dis-inform,everyone,claiming that Kelmendi tribe is serbian,and bla-bla-bla. Its really shameful,i just want to see and read the truth in Misplaced Pages,not propaganda of Albanians or Serbians! I do not support any propagandist side. All information's that i write are based on real facts and from official history books. AlbertBikaj (talk) 19:22, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello, AlbertBikaj. Yes, I've been following this article since you created it and Antidiskriminator began changing it en masse, which is why I added a series of queries regarding translations of the sources being used (follow the edits to see what I was asking for) until Antidiskriminator pulled me up for tag-bombing.

I understand that there are subjects that simply don't have any English language coverage and am always concerned when it becomes evident that the entire area is highly controversial and prone to POV pushes. I think that, before the article is developed any further, it needs to be seriously examined by asking for genuinely neutral third opinions from editors not engaged with the development. It would be useful if you could ask an Albanian speaker whose English is better than yours to assist in translating your concerns about the sources being used. Obviously, it is in Misplaced Pages's interest to have a balanced article.

I'll start the ball rolling. Cheers! --Iryna Harpy (talk) 23:06, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank you! Here you got the best written article of Cali's biography,i know that my English is not perfect,i will try to translate from Albanian to English,i dont want to write false facts,im neutral,i never write false facts,i would be grateful if you restore the previous article which i showed to you,im ready to sent to you other informations from books. Here you got the proof,that communists wanted to airbrush Cali from History. Here you got another fact about Cali,the Antidiskriminator wrote that Cali wanted Autonomy republic,which is not true,Cali just wanted to protect Kelmendi from Montenegro,to keep the Kelmendi safe. I apologies,because i have made to much trouble about this topic. AlbertBikaj (talk) 23:21, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll have a read through these. It would certainly indicate that there are two sides to the story and reliable English language sources are preferable to unconfirmed non-English sources. The fact that Isa Blumi has good scholarly credentials certainly won't hurt your case.

As I'll be conferring with other administrators who will be looking at your attitude as well as content, could I suggest that you try to stay calm and avoid uncivil remarks about anyone you are arguing against. I know this is difficult for anyone when English is not their first language and they get overheated in a debate, but trying to keep to the facts and avoiding accusations will influence other parties reviewing the information in a positive way. I'll be in touch again soon. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 23:40, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

My English teacher corrected Cali's biography ,so please take a look on this file,all informations are based in real facts,and in official history of Albania. AlbertBikaj (talk) 08:40, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi, Albert. Okay, I'll take a look at it. Would you mind if I shared it with Fut.Perf. (the other editor who was concerned over the article and sources) to see what he thinks? --Iryna Harpy (talk) 09:30, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

No problem :). — Preceding unsigned comment added by AlbertBikaj (talk • contribs) 10:01, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

I have one urgent Misplaced Pages issue to attend to first (which may take a few days), but I'll attend to looking at the Prek Cali article immediately afterwards. You've been very patient and worked hard on it, so I'm sure you can stretch your patience for a few more days. There's no great urgency as Antidiskriminator has also ceased work on it, so at least we've managed to stop edit warring for the moment and there are other neutral parties watching the page. Cheers for now. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 21:21, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

I can wait that's not a problem, in beginning i didnt know how work goes here in WIKI,and im sorry for causing troubles. To be honest i was angry a little bit,cause he is our National Hero (Officially recognized by Albanian state),i have read about him,thats the reason that i know good his biography and propaganda which has been made by Communism in Albania and Yugoslavia. If you dont mind,im going to send to you even some new "chapters" about protection of border (1913-1926). I wanna thank you once again for help. AlbertBikaj (talk) 06:27, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Please make the changes as soon you can. AlbertBikaj (talk) 16:55, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

I just found a new proof about Prek Cali's biography, the book is written by Albanian scholar Gjekë Gjonaj Prekë Cali, "Piramidë e kufijve të Shqipërisë" (En: "Prek Cali,The pyramid of Albanian border"),this book is reviewed by famous Albanian Historian, Prof.Romeo Gurakuqi he is professor in "European University of Tirana". The corporation with communism theory's are based in Albanian communist Authors! This book denies communist theory about corporation with chetniks,and also dont forget he is officially known as Albanian Hero,and Pride of Albania. The biography which is written is not neutral at all,90% of literature which is used is by Serbian Communist authors! Also dont forget the Isa Blumi reference! I hope you will do a change because this article is Disinformation! Thank you! 213.133.24.115 (talk) 18:14, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi, Albert. Apologies for the delay. I haven't forgotten about the article and have the relevant information you've sent me bookmarked. Antidiskriminator is also waiting on the information being reviewed, so I need to compare notes on sources and work out how it should be balanced. Naturally, being English Misplaced Pages, the priority will be given to sources written in the English language.

I've been stuck in a dispute about usage of categories and, since then, the change in government in Ukraine, followed by the Crimean referendum, has resulted in an outbreak of warring on various Eastern Slavic articles. I'll get to Prek Cali as soon as I'm able, but please feel free to remind me should I be delayed for more than a couple of weeks again.

PS remember to log in as yourself. I know we all forget from time to time, but it prevents any accusations of sock puppetry and meat puppetry! Cheers! --Iryna Harpy (talk) 00:09, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Here you got something about Prek Cali,this book is written by Albanian priest Zef Pllumi. Also please change the origin of Kelmendi region,its ridicules to claim that Kelmendi tribe is serbia. AlbertBikaj (talk) 12:39, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Here is another strong proof, the book of Uran Butka,albanian scholar,historian and ocular witness, in his book "Ringjallje"(En: Reborn) in page 120 here you got the conversation of Prenk (Preng) Cali with Mehmet Shehu Albanian partisan (communist) (ALB: " Kur na çuen ke shtabi i batalionit, në Rrapsh të Hotit, Mehmet Shehu, u ndodh ballë për ballë me Prek Calin: - E, Prekë Cali, - i tha Mehmeti, - të pat ardhur dita ta mbyllesh historinë tënde me shkronja ari, po të bëheshe me ne! Pse bëre kështu? - Zotni, - iu përgjigj Prekë Cali, - faji bie mbi ju, se ju u batë aleat me anmikun shekullor tonin, me Serbin.”) (EN: When they took us to the battalion headquarters in Rapsha of Hoti, Mehmet Shehu saw Prek Cali andsaid to him  :"Your history would be written in gold,if you were in our side. Why did you do this ? ", Prek Cali replied : "The blame falls on you because you choose to ally with our sworn enemy,Serbia" AlbertBikaj (talk) 13:10, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

An Englishman in Albania: memoirs of a British officer 1929-1955 Here is another proof about Communist propaganda(Communist said that Cali is traitor) in book of Stan Sherer, Marjorie Senechal "Long life to your children!: a portrait of High Albania" ,or in another book,written by Albanian scholar Elmas Leci ,"Kush i Vrau? Perse i denuan" (EN "Who killed them? Why they were punished?") ,or Isa Blumi book or the book of Pejtër Pepa "The Criminal file of Albania's communist dictator" etc. Im going to do another research if its needed. But please change as fast you can the article. Because the books in serbian are based on communist books like this one "Heronjt e Heshtun" (Silent heros) written by Communist Albanian state which claims that Cali and other Albanian hero's were traitors... I think here you got a lot of strong proofs.

Okay, AlbertBikaj. Thanks for the extra references you've provided. I'm stuck in discussions and disputes over the Crimea accession on a number of articles and noticeboards at the moment. I WILL get to Prenk Cali as a first priority as soon as it quietens down a little. Please bear with me as the incident has created a lot of turmoil, POV and disruptive editing. Passions are running high and affecting many articles about Eastern Slavs. Sorry! --Iryna Harpy (talk) 23:45, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

No problem,just dont forget to make the change on his biography,cause with this "biography" (which is written according to communist books he looks like a traitor). Thank youAlbertBikaj (talk) 05:52, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

-Dear Iryna Harpy,i made changes on Prek Cali,i added the reverences which i showed to you,and i hope you or any one else wont delete it,because this is the real story,the past one was according communist literature. If i have made any grammar mistake please correct it. I hope you will understand me. AlbertBikaj (talk) 17:58, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

I'm not going to touch it at the moment, but I can't vouch for anyone else editing the page. Personally, I don't think the title 'Communist Propaganda' is appropriate. If it does get reverted, I can go back to your current edits when I get a moment and work out how to split it between one school of thought and another. I'm still seriously tied up in getting various Ukrainian and Russian articles about Crimea on track. It's taking up virtually all of my time, so don't panic if your content changes for the Prek Cali article are reverted as it's next on my list to sort out. Most importantly, don't engage in edit wars over the article because you won't win and will only get yourself blocked. Take a deep breath and remember that any propaganda there won't be there for long. It's better to have the article balanced and well sourced for future reference in the long run than end up having it remain with biased information permanently because you can't work on it at all. Cheers! --Iryna Harpy (talk) 05:08, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

 Note: Still retaining so it doesn't get archived until I find time to get to it. Research heavy. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 04:56, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Prenk Cali

You stated that you will copy edit Prenk Cali article a couple of months ago. Will you please be so kind to clarify if you still have intention to copy edit this article or not?--Antidiskriminator (talk) 10:49, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I do intend to do so. The complexion on the matter changed when edit warring began and other editors called a halt to development of the article and the fact that, as texts are written in Albanian, we don't have expertise of knowledge enough about the subject to do anything more than remove information (that is, bring it back down to stub size) and build it up again slowly in consultation with those representing opposing points of view and establish whether there is a case for presenting both interpretations, or whether one is distinctly POV and shouldn't be represented in the article.

I have a few things I have to deal with first, but will contact editor Future Perf. as to resuming creating an informative and well written article of it. I'm afraid you'll have to bear with other demands on us taking precedence, but the article is by no means forgotten. I'd certainly like to see more articles about Albania developed, but admin has the right to impose sanctions on users over topics being warred over. Apologies for the delays as I know they must be extremely frustrating. Cheers for now! --Iryna Harpy (talk) 21:29, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. No frustration at all. Take all the time you need. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 21:44, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Okay. As you would have noted, I've left the content you've added intact in order that it isn't left at stub level. I'd certainly interpret the language as being neutral, and the content as not being controversial. Let's see if it triggers any reactions and take it from there. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 22:00, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

 Note: Still retaining so it doesn't get archived until I find time to get to it. Research heavy. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 04:54, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Thqldpxm‎

Thanks for your attention to Thqldpxm‎'s editing, would you prefer it if I stopped commenting on the editor's talk page so there's only one conversation, considering the language difficulty?Keith-264 (talk) 06:17, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

I'm not sure that it will make much difference... but, yes, give the user a chance to respond to me. If you could check tomorrow as to whether there's been any further activity in terms of editing and give me a shout out one way or the other, that'd be useful. I could do with a reminder call considering the number of articles, DRN, ANI, RfC and other 'stuff' I'm buried in.

If there's a language difficulty, I should be able to recruit someone who knows their native language fairly quickly. I don't want to penalise someone who's just overly-enthusiastic for being enthusiastic. Nevertheless, at the moment Thqldpxm is wreaking havoc. Cheers! --Iryna Harpy (talk) 06:34, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

 Note: Retaining to prevent archiving until issue is definitely resolved. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 04:57, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Apologize and Explanation unexplained remove

If you are offended by my edit, I apologize. My response is slow. I am very sorry

1.Mongol conquests, Soviet invasion of Poland
I had removed Tatar invasions, Battle of the Kalka River, Mongol invasion of Europe, Battle of Ain Jalut in Mongol conquests#See also

• Tatar invasions and Mongol and Tatar states in Europe. They are the same article.

• Battle of the Kalka River, Mongol invasion of Europe, Battle of Ain Jalut. They are duplicate contents. Because see Mongol conquests#Timeline

• Soviet invasion of Poland. It is the same reason mentioned above. They are duplicate contents.

2. Battle of Komarów (1914), Battle of Kraśnik

• I had removed Template:Campaignbox Eastern Front (World War I) in Battle of Komarów (1914) and Battle of Kraśnik. Because they part of Battle of Galicia. Of course, Battle of Galicia is part of Template:Campaignbox Eastern Front (World War I). But Battle of Komarów (1914) and Battle of Kraśnik, They are big part of the Battle of Galicia. But They are small part of the Template:Campaignbox Eastern Front (World War I).

I do not speak English well, sorry Please understand. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thqldpxm (talk • contribs) 14:24, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

 Note: Preventing archiving. Not sure that problems caused by poor English and difficulty in explaining rationale for battlebox changes has been resolved. Need to check back on situation. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 04:59, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Thqldpxm

User talk:Thqldpxm Sorry about this but he (?) is at it again. Please helpKeith-264 (talk) 15:01, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

I won't be able to get around to chasing it up until next week as I'm going on holiday (not even a laptop) until next weekend. You might need to take it to an ANI to curtail his/her activities in the interim. I'll check in as soon as I've returned. Leave me a message here to let me know how you're getting on. Best of luck! --Iryna Harpy (talk) 22:35, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, best wishes for the holliers.Keith-264 (talk) 06:07, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

 Note: User's inability to communicate in English is extremely problematic, particularly when dealing with battleboxes (or infoboxes of any description). It can't even guaranteed that the user understands the contents, parameters or usage for English Misplaced Pages. May need to seek admin advice if user starts editing again. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 05:02, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Deletions

Hi there, I deleted the pages you requested. In the future to delete your own userspace sub-pages, you do not have to go to MFD, just put Template:db-user on the page and it will be rapidly removed. Happy Editing, — xaosflux 03:43, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, xaosflux! I was going to do so but, then, noted that there are instructions relating specifically to one's own user talk pages suggesting that they should be done by an administrator. I suspect that there are a number of policy and guideline pages that haven't been updated for some time still floating around (per instructions here), particularly considering that {{db-userreq}} redirects to Template:Db-u1.

Hello Iryna, I noticed the use box on your user page

and was wandering if there might be anything in relation to that which would constitute a WP:COI on your part?--Ubikwit_{見学/迷惑} 03:34, 23 May 2014 (UTC)