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If you only took the time to read the edit summaries in the history of the page you will notice that I already offered an explanation on the reasons for not using flags in airline destination articles. Given that you keep insisting on this, I'll put it clearer here. Consensus was gained not long ago for the layout of tables in airline destination articles, and flags have been avoided. They can be found at here. I strongly suggest you to read them. Furthermore, do take a look at MOS:FLAGS. I also replied to your comments at my talk page, where I think I made myself perfectly clear that I take this project seriously. I assume you did not read it too.--Jetstreamer 20:33, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
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2014 pro-Russian unrest in Ukraine
Mondolkiri1, There is no statement that says involvement of Right Sector. There is a statement that says that there was a visit card of Right Sector and that is all. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 22:04, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
I wasn't me that added the Right Sector again, this time. Previously I just reverted to the inclusion of the Right Sector (references) Denied by the Right Sector (reference). This time, though the reference seems to be from a more reliable source, so I didn't to anything. Mondolkiri1 (talk) 13:38, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
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Hi, first of all thanks for the map that you have prepared. Bu I have some objections; it really doesn't make sense to show Fezzan, Crimea and Syria on the map that you have prepared. If TK completely terminates flights to Sebha, this time, do you paint this region "Fezzan" into white color or blue? Btw, your map includes the regions, not the destination points. With this same Logic, i need to ask the colors of the following regions; Alaska, Hawaii, British Columbia, Wales, Northern Ireland, Sardinia, Corsica, Bretagne, Asturias, Baleares, Canarias, Açores, Scania, Crete, Wallonia, Chechnia, Dagestan, Yakutstan, Sinkiang.... You see sky's the limit. This time, you have to paint these "Regions" into white, since TK doesn't fly yet.. :) Thanks & Regards, ushuaia1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ushuaia1 (talk • contribs) 08:00, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
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Mondolkiri1, I surprised that you are denying the fact of Russian Unity involvement in the separatist movement in Ukraine. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 00:05, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
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- As I was trying to say before you edited again, of course I'm not denying the involvement of Russian Unity. I requested a citation which I then corrected, because, as I said in the correction, obviously Russian Unity is involved. But Russian Unity is one party, Russian Bloc is another. Aksyonov belongs to Russian Unity, not Russian Bloc.Mondolkiri1 (talk) 00:19, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
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- Thanks for removing the links.--Jetstreamer 18:08, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
EU Parliament 2014 elections
No, we're still waiting for the results of some 20 sections from abroad. --Sannita - not just another it.wiki sysop 09:34, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
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Strange edit
Any reason why you chose to place this here? It is a bit of a rambling set of random questions that don't really have much to do with the 2014 pro-Russian conflict in Ukraine article. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 02:04, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
- It was in a sequence of a discussion of a discussion in the "2014 pro-Russian conflict in Ukraine" article talk page, so I think it was a logical edit.Mondolkiri1 (talk) 03:18, 15 June 2014 (WEST - Lisbon Time)
- I looked at the article and the guy is only mentioned once in the article under the bounty section. Which past discussion was it about? I am jus trying to figure out how these questions would fit here. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 02:20, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
- Namely Yulia Romero in the proper article (I don't know if anyone else). (I'm
uusingusing Lisbon Time now since I've noticed that in the "Deutsch Misplaced Pages they use the Berliner Stund, sorry for the Germans, but they have harmed a lot my country too much, along with a lot with other countries in Europe) Mondolkiri1 (talk) 03:30, 15 June 2014 (WEST - Lisbon Time)Mondolkiri1 (talk) 03:32, 15 June 2014 (WEST - Lisbon Time)- I would talk to User:Yulia Romero about it then. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 02:39, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
- I beg your pardon, Yulia Romero actually said that the fact that either if this billionaire is Ukrainian-Israeli or not is not relevant. But if you wish to discuss that with her, be free. It's not my responsability.Mondolkiri1 (talk) 07:34, 15 June 2014 (WEST - Lisbon Time)
- I would talk to User:Yulia Romero about it then. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 02:39, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
- Namely Yulia Romero in the proper article (I don't know if anyone else). (I'm
- I looked at the article and the guy is only mentioned once in the article under the bounty section. Which past discussion was it about? I am jus trying to figure out how these questions would fit here. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 02:20, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
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I know about his comments. He has been doing the same thing to me and a bunch of other editors over at the article 2014 Northern Iraq offensive. I have made a request for temporary semi-protection of both articles. EkoGraf (talk) 22:28, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
Turkish Airlines destinations
Hi Mondolkiri1, first of all thank you for your work! But there's one author in the German wiki which has a problem with your map. Could you please explain why you divided Ukraine into different area? I appreciate your help! --MBurch (talk) 12:56, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
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Can he adapt to this pattern in the topic 2014 pro-Russian conflict in Ukraine?--Baba Mica (talk) 17:07, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
- I'm not the author of that map. Talk directly to the author of the map, so he can update it.Baba Mica --Mondolkiri1 (talk) 17:15, 5 July 2014
- I'm working on the map.Baba Mica --Mondolkiri1 (talk) 18:16, 5 July 2014
Pro-Russian Unrest in Ukraine.
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- Was that because I talked about Norman Finkelstein, or because I took a position about the absense of an article here in Misplaced Pages? I thought about mentionting Ofra Haza... actually. I'm NOT an anti-jewish anti-semite, and anyone in the social media related to the issue may be my witness! You remind me the radical pro-Yatsenyuk and pro-Putin radicals in the 2014 pro-Russian unrest in Ukraine. Or other radicals in RT, Fox News, etc. I'm myself pro-Israel (inside the 1967 borders, with Jerusalem and Jewish historical sites in Palestine negotiable), as I am pro-Palestine (surely they have a negotiable share in Jerusalem, in my opinion... if, on the other hand, you want to demand from them the place where King David had its palace, again, negotiable)... Is that a problem, by the way? I was born in the 1970s, 30 years after the end of WW2, but as time goes by, some people seem to tend to think that war is just a funny joke with no consequences. Long live Noam Chomsky, Norman Finkelstein, Code Pink and all the peace-loving Jews! Viriditas --Mondokiri1(talk) 01:45, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
- Excuse me, what does any of that have to do with the subject of the book The War Against the Jews? If you continue this ongoing violation of WP:NOTAFORUM, I will have no choice but to request your block. We only write about the topic, not about other topics. Is that clear or do you need an administrator to explain to you how Misplaced Pages works before they block you? Viriditas (talk) 01:47, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
- D whatever you want, if you may request my block... This is MY Talk Page, and I was talking about an issue related with peace concerning to Jews, and I replied with another argument about peace concerning to Jews.... Either we agree that Jews shall live in peace or not! My doubt is if you think that the Arabs shall also have peace, but that's something you have to clarify to myself (or ignore... I'm not anzious for a clarification). If you want to block me, do it now... Viriditas --Mondokiri1(talk) 01:57, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
- Mondolkiri1, what part of your comments above have anything to do with the subject of the book, The War Against the Jews? If the answer is nothing, then why are you continuing to talk about it? Viriditas (talk) 02:03, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
- It has a lot to do with other books and reports, it has nothing to do with that book. But I only wanted to highlight the point that there are plenty of anti-war Jews, which is a great argument against antu-semites! (Jewish semites)! I think such an article (which I first proposed) would be a very good Misplaced Pages weapon against quite known anti-semites like the followers of David Duke or "Brother Nathanael" that blame all the evils of the world on the Jews (even if it's am earthquake in Japan) Viriditas --Mondokiri1(talk) 02:14, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
- I don't think it matters. Antisemitism, xenophobia, hatred, intolerance—all of these things are inherent to the human brain (read ingroups and outgroups). Authorities, leaders, organizations, and institutions know this, and manipulate human behavior to whatever end they choose. The problem is not "out there", it's in here. If you can teach people to take control of their own brain, to use critical thinking and question authority, you've won half the battle. True power, true control, never leaves the personal sphere. We give our power to others, they cannot take it from us. When you realize this, then you understand that the only war that matters is the war against the imagination. We can envision a different world, a better world, a more just and equitable world, but to get there, we have to live in it as participants, and by doing so, we create it from the inside out, not from the top down. That's how it works. The leading edge of progress comes from lone individuals surrounded on all sides by opposition, especially from their so-called "leaders". But it's the individual who leads by their personal choice in every moment and in every situation. Leave the "leaders" with their grand delusions, it won't make a difference. Viriditas (talk) 02:56, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
- Well, yes, I'm a sympathizer of Alexis Tsipras here in Europe (I'm a Southern European and also left wing), so I'm idealistic. But I've been in 2 Muslim countries... well, they were quite soft ones, but that's the point (I was in Morocco, which is very conservative but far away from radical), and Turkey (well, that one is anything but actually a typical Muslim country... for them Ramadan is 1 day, they drink Raki and lots of beer, they have sex before marriage, many woman actually wear veil, but mostly older ones... and if anyone prays at the right times they think he or her is a weirdo... they really have an anti-religious movement there, mainly by CHP, partly by MHP and BDP, not by AKP, but AKSP is less than 50%%). And Kazakhstabm Indonesia, Malaysia, Azerbaijan, Bosnia... well, yes, they're Muslims, so what, in Portugal 85% are Catholics and they burnt the unconverted Muslims and Jews in the 16th century!.... Viriditas --Mondokiri1(talk) 03:15, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
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- I don't think it matters. Antisemitism, xenophobia, hatred, intolerance—all of these things are inherent to the human brain (read ingroups and outgroups). Authorities, leaders, organizations, and institutions know this, and manipulate human behavior to whatever end they choose. The problem is not "out there", it's in here. If you can teach people to take control of their own brain, to use critical thinking and question authority, you've won half the battle. True power, true control, never leaves the personal sphere. We give our power to others, they cannot take it from us. When you realize this, then you understand that the only war that matters is the war against the imagination. We can envision a different world, a better world, a more just and equitable world, but to get there, we have to live in it as participants, and by doing so, we create it from the inside out, not from the top down. That's how it works. The leading edge of progress comes from lone individuals surrounded on all sides by opposition, especially from their so-called "leaders". But it's the individual who leads by their personal choice in every moment and in every situation. Leave the "leaders" with their grand delusions, it won't make a difference. Viriditas (talk) 02:56, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
- It has a lot to do with other books and reports, it has nothing to do with that book. But I only wanted to highlight the point that there are plenty of anti-war Jews, which is a great argument against antu-semites! (Jewish semites)! I think such an article (which I first proposed) would be a very good Misplaced Pages weapon against quite known anti-semites like the followers of David Duke or "Brother Nathanael" that blame all the evils of the world on the Jews (even if it's am earthquake in Japan) Viriditas --Mondokiri1(talk) 02:14, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
- Mondolkiri1, what part of your comments above have anything to do with the subject of the book, The War Against the Jews? If the answer is nothing, then why are you continuing to talk about it? Viriditas (talk) 02:03, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
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- ==Weren't people born during the war?==
Pregnancy and birth happens, even during wartime itself. Shouldn't that be factored into estimates of Holocaust victims? 198.151.130.48 (talk) 18:59, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
- I just tried to talk about a possible peaceful solution conccerning to the Israeli-Palestinian issue in a Talk Page (not in an article). Concerning to that old issue of Eurovision (in which I'm not interested any longer, by the way), it has passed a really long time, unless it's eternal. Well, is talking about Jewish advocates for a peaceful solution in Israel a reason to block me? If it is, there are plenty of other social media networks where I can express myself (I remind you that I wasn't editing the article, just the Talk Page). I have not vandalized any page, at all! Ricky81682 --Mondolkiri1 (talk) 10:30, 16 July 2014 (WEST)Mondolkiri1 (talk) 10:35, 16 July 2014 (WEST - Lisbon Time)
- It was an article talk page. You are welcome to discuss here, on your user talk page. If you can convince an admin that you understood what you did wrong and promise it won't happen again, you may be unblocked. Viriditas (talk) 10:10, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, I understan that there are many forums outside[REDACTED] where we can discuss those issues, so it's useless to discuss it in Misplaced Pages itself. Who is the administrator? (Since there are plenty of articles related with aviation where I like to edit) Viriditas--Mondolkiri1 (talk) 11:40, 16 July 2014 (WEST - Lisbon/London Time)
- Follow the instructions for appealing your block up above. An administrator will show up after you do. Viriditas (talk) 10:56, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, I understan that there are many forums outside[REDACTED] where we can discuss those issues, so it's useless to discuss it in Misplaced Pages itself. Who is the administrator? (Since there are plenty of articles related with aviation where I like to edit) Viriditas--Mondolkiri1 (talk) 11:40, 16 July 2014 (WEST - Lisbon/London Time)
- It was an article talk page. You are welcome to discuss here, on your user talk page. If you can convince an admin that you understood what you did wrong and promise it won't happen again, you may be unblocked. Viriditas (talk) 10:10, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
- I just tried to talk about a possible peaceful solution conccerning to the Israeli-Palestinian issue in a Talk Page (not in an article). Concerning to that old issue of Eurovision (in which I'm not interested any longer, by the way), it has passed a really long time, unless it's eternal. Well, is talking about Jewish advocates for a peaceful solution in Israel a reason to block me? If it is, there are plenty of other social media networks where I can express myself (I remind you that I wasn't editing the article, just the Talk Page). I have not vandalized any page, at all! Ricky81682 --Mondolkiri1 (talk) 10:30, 16 July 2014 (WEST)Mondolkiri1 (talk) 10:35, 16 July 2014 (WEST - Lisbon Time)
Drawing up an unblock request
I'm sorry to see you've been blocked. I personally think the block was harsh, but that's outside of my purview. Other editors at ANI have commented that they'd support an unblock request if you promise that you will no longer engage in "banter" on the talk pages of articles. This simply means that article talk pages are only meant for one thing: discussing the content of the article for the sake of improving it. It they are not a forum for general discussion of the subject at hand. In other words, don't post messages on the talk pages of articles about stuff unrelated to improving the content of the article. Also, listening to people before reverting their changes would've helped greatly in this situation. I hope you can understand why you were blocked, and what you did wrong, and what not to do again. As long as you understand these things, your unblock request will be successful. Have you started drawing one up? I suggest that you do. If you need any help understanding what the block was about, just ask. RGloucester — ☎ 03:21, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you so much, RGloucester! Yes, I've a couple of times used the talk pages of the articles as forums, which is not appropriate (I've also done it once in the 2014 pro-Russian unrest in Ukraine, probably you remember it). What I said was nothing wrong, in my opinion, but the place where I said was wrong. I haven't yet started drawing any one up. As the block has an undetermined duration, I've been waiting to see, and I also don't know, by now, how should I do, since there was a reason for the block... What should I tell? RGloucester —Mondolkiri1 (talk) 17:50, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
- All you need to do is promise that you won't use article talk pages like that again. It isn't a matter of what you said, but where you said it. Make that promise, and also make clear that you understand that you can't make legal threats on Misplaced Pages. Using words like "libel" and "fraud" may be considered legal threats, as these are legal terminology. Use this template: Template:Unblock. RGloucester — ☎ 17:57, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
- That part of the legal threat was clearly a misunderstanding, since I only mentioned once about something that I and many Portuguese people perceived as being a fraud, though I was not actually threatening anyone, since I'm not a judge or an attorney or whatsoever. But anyway, it didn't happen again. Shall I say: "I understand that making legal threats is wrong and I won't make any other again?"... (Though it looks like a confession about something I wasn't aware I was doing, to say the least). Concerning to the other part, the actual thing that caused this mess, should I say: "I promise not to use the talk page articles to insert opinions that are not directly related to the content of the article"?RGloucester —Mondolkiri1 (talk) 19:17, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
- That sounds good. Something along the lines of "I understand that making legal threats is wrong, and I never intended to make any to begin with. I will not use legal language in that way again". RGloucester — ☎ 19:30, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you so much, I hope it works!RGloucester —Mondolkiri1 (talk) 19:47, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
- That sounds good. Something along the lines of "I understand that making legal threats is wrong, and I never intended to make any to begin with. I will not use legal language in that way again". RGloucester — ☎ 19:30, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
- That part of the legal threat was clearly a misunderstanding, since I only mentioned once about something that I and many Portuguese people perceived as being a fraud, though I was not actually threatening anyone, since I'm not a judge or an attorney or whatsoever. But anyway, it didn't happen again. Shall I say: "I understand that making legal threats is wrong and I won't make any other again?"... (Though it looks like a confession about something I wasn't aware I was doing, to say the least). Concerning to the other part, the actual thing that caused this mess, should I say: "I promise not to use the talk page articles to insert opinions that are not directly related to the content of the article"?RGloucester —Mondolkiri1 (talk) 19:17, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
- All you need to do is promise that you won't use article talk pages like that again. It isn't a matter of what you said, but where you said it. Make that promise, and also make clear that you understand that you can't make legal threats on Misplaced Pages. Using words like "libel" and "fraud" may be considered legal threats, as these are legal terminology. Use this template: Template:Unblock. RGloucester — ☎ 17:57, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
- As long as you understand what you did wrong, and don't do it again, you'll be fine. RGloucester — ☎ 20:02, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
- I was unblocked. Thank you so much for your support! Greetings!RGloucester —Mondolkiri1 (talk) 23:59, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
- No problem. You're a good editor. We all make mistakes sometimes. RGloucester — ☎ 00:04, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
Unblock request
This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who accepted the request.Mondolkiri1 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
I understand that making legal threats is wrong, and I never intended to make any to begin with. I will not use legal language in that way again. I also promise not to use the articles' talk pages to insert opinions that are not directly related to the content of the article. Mondolkiri1 (talk) 19:56, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
Accept reason:
Thank you. That was all I asked you to understand. We are all volunteers here, don't attack people and in particular, don't start arguments that aren't about the articles themselves. As I suggested before, I had no issues with your views, there is a large project about those same issues including Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Palestine which you may find helpful and other places where you can discuss your concerns about what is missing here and biases that are in the entire project. Happy editing! Ricky81682 (talk) 23:22, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Resilient Barnstar | |
In appreciation of your quick growth as an editor able to enter into all articles related to the recent events in Eastern Europe and contribute with diligence, recognise, discuss and diffuse POV objectives, and remain good natured, civil and neutral under extreme pressure. Your good work and open attitude to the learning curve has not gone unnoticed! Iryna Harpy (talk) 04:48, 7 August 2014 (UTC) |