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	:::Well sorry but it reflects my lack of enthusiasm for the somewhat 1-sided approach. As regards "Australian where he is obviously referred to without the accent", this assumption about Australians may change. Sports papers don't have full font sets, in any country, but books in Australia have the same range of fonts as in UK and US. The important thing to remember here is that alphabets indicate pronunciation. The difference between "KooLEEna" and "CHOOLina" is a big difference. If it was UK there's a good chance that "Č" might be preserved to prevent the manager being pronounced as the Latin for "kitchen". But yeah, whatever, he was 10 when arrived in Aus in the 1960s, if it was someone more recent the assumption would be different. ] (]) 03:25, 13 August 2014 (UTC)		:::Well sorry but it reflects my lack of enthusiasm for the somewhat 1-sided approach. As regards "Australian where he is obviously referred to without the accent", this assumption about Australians may change. Sports papers don't have full font sets, in any country, but books in Australia have the same range of fonts as in UK and US. The important thing to remember here is that alphabets indicate pronunciation. The difference between "KooLEEna" and "CHOOLina" is a big difference. If it was UK there's a good chance that "Č" might be preserved to prevent the manager being pronounced as the Latin for "kitchen". But yeah, whatever, he was 10 when arrived in Aus in the 1960s, if it was someone more recent the assumption would be different. ] (]) 03:25, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
	::::I'm deliberately trying to make my arguments for these RMs in terms that you would agree with. If you want I can just go back to my COMMONNAME argument but no doubt there would be complaints about that too. ] (]) 06:48, 13 August 2014 (UTC)		::::I'm deliberately trying to make my arguments for these RMs in terms that you would agree with. If you want I can just go back to my COMMONNAME argument but no doubt there would be complaints about that too. ] (]) 06:48, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
			*'''Support'''. See , , , and . That covers his employer, his hometown paper, the Australian national press, and the international press. The most authoritative sources are ''International Who's Who'' and ''Who's Who in Australia,'' if someone wants to look those up. ] (]) 08:51, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

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Branko Čulina → Branko Culina – Another follow up from Talk:Matthew Spiranovic#Requested move and Category:Australian people of Croatian descent. Culina was born in Yugoslavia but moved to Australia when he was 10 and hence is notable for exploits as an Australian where he is obviously referred to without the accent. Jenks24 (talk) 13:54, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Question - does this mean Croatians and Serbians who are not Australian passport holders should not be Australianized? In ictu oculi (talk) 15:29, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
- Give me a break. I'm deliberately not focusing on them. Jenks24 (talk) 15:38, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Well sorry but it reflects my lack of enthusiasm for the somewhat 1-sided approach. As regards "Australian where he is obviously referred to without the accent", this assumption about Australians may change. Sports papers don't have full font sets, in any country, but books in Australia have the same range of fonts as in UK and US. The important thing to remember here is that alphabets indicate pronunciation. The difference between "KooLEEna" and "CHOOLina" is a big difference. If it was UK there's a good chance that "Č" might be preserved to prevent the manager being pronounced as the Latin for "kitchen". But yeah, whatever, he was 10 when arrived in Aus in the 1960s, if it was someone more recent the assumption would be different. In ictu oculi (talk) 03:25, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

I'm deliberately trying to make my arguments for these RMs in terms that you would agree with. If you want I can just go back to my COMMONNAME argument but no doubt there would be complaints about that too. Jenks24 (talk) 06:48, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

Support. See the Newcastle Jets site, Newcastle Herald, SBS, and ESPN. That covers his employer, his hometown paper, the Australian national press, and the international press. The most authoritative sources are International Who's Who and Who's Who in Australia, if someone wants to look those up. The Satanic Sheik (talk) 08:51, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

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