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Unopposed (except by author) suggestion to userfy-without-redirect another of this editor's failed policy-change proposals masquerading as ]s (cf. userspacing of ], and I think there've been others; maybe ] started that way). Userspacing proposed in April, and re-proposed recently after revisions made the page even more of a mess (see ]). <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — ] ] ] ≽<sup>ʌ</sup>ⱷ҅<sub>ᴥ</sub>ⱷ<sup>ʌ</sup>≼ </span> 02:40, 18 July 2014 (UTC) Unopposed (except by author) suggestion to userfy-without-redirect another of this editor's failed policy-change proposals masquerading as ]s (cf. userspacing of ], and I think there've been others; maybe ] started that way). Userspacing proposed in April, and re-proposed recently after revisions made the page even more of a mess (see ]). <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — ] ] ] ≽<sup>ʌ</sup>ⱷ҅<sub>ᴥ</sub>ⱷ<sup>ʌ</sup>≼ </span> 02:40, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

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An anon started an RfC on 14 July on ]. I'm hoping we can keep the RfC brief, for obvious reasons. Would an uninvolved editor take a look and decide whether it can be closed yet? Many thanks, ] <small><sup>]</sup></small> 18:33, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
:I would suggest this RfC should not yet be closed. There has been additional discussion since you placed the above message, including a number of posts from today. Discussion points are valid and on track; I would be inclined to let this RfC continue to run. I don't particularly understand what the "obvious reasons" are to curtail this RfC? Unless, you are referring to the potential distress the discussion might cause to the family; in which case, there is no evidence any such distress exists. ]</span> ]</span> 17:00, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
:::The RFC was opened on 14 July 2014. The 30-day period is still running. Is there a reason why it is important to close it early? It doesn't appear to be a ] case, and if it were, it would not have to be here. ] (]) 15:57, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
::::{{close}} by {{user|S Marshall}}. ] <sup>]</sup> 22:31, 16 August 2014 (UTC)


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Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at ] (initiated 28 June 2014)? Thanks, ] (]) 18:46, 3 August 2014 (UTC) Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at ] (initiated 28 June 2014)? Thanks, ] (]) 18:46, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
:'''Comment''' Now archived at ]. ] <sup>]</sup> 06:01, 12 August 2014 (UTC) :'''Comment''' Now archived at ]. ] <sup>]</sup> 06:01, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

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Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at ] (initiated 23 June 2014)? Thanks, ] (]) 18:46, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
: {{resolved}} -- ] (]) 16:21, 13 August 2014 (UTC)


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:: It's been almost a week with no real discussion and no updates. Withdrawing my wait request. ] (]) 06:18, 8 August 2014 (UTC) :: It's been almost a week with no real discussion and no updates. Withdrawing my wait request. ] (]) 06:18, 8 August 2014 (UTC)


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Please close and measure the consensus. Thanks, ] <small>(]/])</small> 09:46, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
:{{close}} by {{user|Mdann52}}. ] <sup>]</sup> 22:23, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

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This review has been open for 12 days, with no activity for the past 3 days. -- ] ] 01:17, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
:{{close}} by {{admin|Sandstein}}. ] <sup>]</sup> 22:20, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

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This has been going for some time. User who is subject of proposal has suggested it might be time to close. Might be good if it was closed before it gets archived. I have commented in the discussion. <span style="font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#000;">]&thinsp;]</span> 16:55, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
:It appears that a consensus is forming for the ban. Could an admin look at this? <font face="MV Boli">]]</font> 21:07, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
::Just another edit to call an admin to this. It's at the top of the AN/I thread and will be archived soon. <font face="MV Boli">]]</font> 02:18, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
:::Closed. '''] ]]''' 03:09, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
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Open since 29 April. ] (]) 15:55, 11 August 2014 (UTC) Open since 29 April. ] (]) 15:55, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

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30 day period passed. Could an admin assess the consensus and close this RfC?] (]) 18:05, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
:{{done}} (NAC, but none of the possible outcomes required admin tools to implement, so an admin close was not required.) ''''']''''' ''<font size="1.8">(])</font>'' 06:43, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

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Discussion appears to have mostly stopped. While its only been open 12 days, its generated plenty of discussion (250k) for a closer to review, and there have been no new comments in over 2 days. ]] 19:39, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
:{{close}} by {{user|S Marshall}}. ] <sup>]</sup> 22:11, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

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    Template talk:Citation#RFC: Same rules for CS1 and Citation

    Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Template talk:Citation#RFC: Same rules for CS1 and Citation (initiated 30 April 2014)? The opening poster wrote:

    As a side-effect of using Module:Citation/CS1 to render the Citation template, all the warning messages issued for Citation Style 1 will now be issued for Citation. (Many of these warning messages are not turned on by default yet.) This means that editors who use the Citation template will have to consult Help:Citation Style 1 to determine the acceptable parameter values. Does the user community ratify this change?

    Thanks, Cunard (talk) 04:44, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

    NFCR discussions

    Could an uninvolved admin/user with some knowledge of copyright/WP:NFCC take a look at this discussion and make a unbiased close? Cheers, TLSuda (talk) 17:41, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

     In progress I hacked out #1, slowly heading for 2 and 3. -- DQ (ʞlɐʇ) 01:26, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

    Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2014 April 27#Category:Drosera by synonymy

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    Misplaced Pages talk:Concision razor#Userfy without redirect

    Unopposed (except by author) suggestion to userfy-without-redirect another of this editor's failed policy-change proposals masquerading as WP:ESSAYs (cf. userspacing of User:Born2cycle/Yogurt Principle, and I think there've been others; maybe User:Born2cycle/Rationalized JDLI started that way). Userspacing proposed in April, and re-proposed recently after revisions made the page even more of a mess (see Misplaced Pages talk:Concision razor#A fresh look).  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ⱷ҅ⱷ≼  02:40, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

    WT:Verifiability#RfC, Insertion of a refimprove tag

    This will be with us for awhile, so a close will be helpful going forward.  Unscintillating (talk) 15:59, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

    @Unscintillating:: I don't see any specific policy outcomes for that discussion, as the specific question (3RR exemption) is trivially answered but the broader question (who has the burden of justifying a tag) is not really something one could change by fiat as a result of the RfC, even if the discussion itself pointed us in a specific direction. Protonk (talk) 20:08, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
    Comment Now archived at Misplaced Pages talk:Verifiability/Archive 62#RfC, Insertion of a refimprove tag. Armbrust 07:11, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

    Talk:Frozen (2013 film)#Should the New York screening hosted by Disney and The Cinema Society be included in the article?

    Could an uninvolved admin close this unactive but rather heated discussion. I made an attempt to close it but received a threat to AN/I instead. Thank you.Forbidden User (talk) 15:46, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

    Talk:Free! (anime)#Comments after the move

    Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at the RfC at Talk:Free! (anime)#Comments after the move (initiated 4 July 2014)? Please consider Talk:Free! (anime)#Move and Talk:Free! (anime)#Bold rename following opposition to it in the RM above in your close. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 18:46, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

    Template talk:USRepSuccessionBox#RfC regarding ceremonial seniority position

    Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Template talk:USRepSuccessionBox#RfC regarding ceremonial seniority position (initiated 27 June 2014)? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 18:46, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

    Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Ireland#RfC North Tipperary and South Tipperary categorical tree structure

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    Misplaced Pages talk:Signatures#On the topic of "Appearance and color" and line-height

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    Help talk:Archiving a talk page#Size of Archives

    Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Help talk:Archiving a talk page#Size of Archives (initiated 24 June 2014)? The discussion was listed at and archived from Template:Centralized discussion. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 18:46, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

    Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2014 May 2#Category:Comprehensive schools in London

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    Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2014 May 4#Sports history

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    Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2014 June 2#Category:Several categories related to women clergy

    Would an admin assess the consensus at Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2014 June 2#Category:Several categories related to women clergy? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 18:46, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

    Misplaced Pages:Archive.is RFC 3

    Would an experienced editor assess the consensus at Misplaced Pages:Archive.is RFC 3 (initiated 26 June 2014)? The discussion is listed at Template:Centralized discussion. In your close, please consider the previous discussions related to archive.is:

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    Here are discussions with the Misplaced Pages:Archive.is RFC closer:

    1. User talk:Hobit#Archive.is RFC closure unclear and permanent link (initiated 31 October 2013)
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    There is discussion going on, but I think those can be moved to somewhere else.Forbidden User (talk) 08:23, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
    I think it might be best to wait a little bit more for results from Chris's email. I know I'm waiting to update my views based on it as well as the email correspondense link. I imagine I am not the only one. PaleAqua (talk) 16:24, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
    It's been almost a week with no real discussion and no updates. Withdrawing my wait request. PaleAqua (talk) 06:18, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

    Misplaced Pages:Redirects for discussion/Log/2014 May 6#Varnasrama

    Open since 29 April. Jackmcbarn (talk) 15:55, 11 August 2014 (UTC)