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	For reasons explained in the email, I do not want to put the evidence on a public page. I hope you're okay with it being sent by email instead. It's not too long. Please let me know when you get it. Diffs are included. Thanks. ] <sup><span style="font-style:italic">(] \| ])</span></sup> 13:23, 7 July 2006 (UTC)		For reasons explained in the email, I do not want to put the evidence on a public page. I hope you're okay with it being sent by email instead. It's not too long. Please let me know when you get it. Diffs are included. Thanks. ] <sup><span style="font-style:italic">(] \| ])</span></sup> 13:23, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
			==Addendum to "Here is my attack"==
			Well, I hace confessed to vandalizing for the past several months, and for permanently scarring my reputation. I want to state now that Tex's contention that I haven't left is entirely false, I only came back on the 23rd to voice my opinion against RobChurch, and his RfA.
			Well, my attack: I am sorry for being the CIyde vandal and for my attacks on John Reid. I am sorry that I came here, stressing myself, and others out. To further emphasize this, I did create an account with the intention of it being constructive after a three month long meltdown. Hopefully, I will be able to edit constructively, and I am sorry for all the trouble I cause. Yes, people reform, and to be honest, the point of the vandalism was to attract attention to what I see as incivility, and the reasons several of my friends have left here.
			But vandalism is vandalism, so I better quit before I get in trouble.
			I am sorry I was ever apart of the project. I DONT want to be a Brian Chase. But, at least I did edit here constructively for a year and three months before I went haywire.]]]]14:34, 31 May 2006 (UTC)


			::'''Addendum:''' It is my wish to make it clear that I want to return to the encyclopedia, and I am asking that my block may be lifted so I can continue my work here. I sincerely apologize for my actions.]]]]16:47, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

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Spammers: I would like for this page to stay reasonably clean. If you have business with me, feel free to leave a comment, else please move on. Please ignore the gigantic eye in the corner with the pump-action shotgun.

Unsigned messages will be ignored. You can sign your messages with four tildes (~~~~). I reserve the right to disruptively eliminate gigantic blobs of wiki-markup from signatures on a whim if I think they're cluttering up my talk page.

Undeletion

I did not undelete the city names article just to spite you or something. I saw it referred to from an article (in a valid context), and having previously viewed the article, I was curious as to why it was red-linked.

I checked the page, and was rather shocked to see a page of 2000+ edits deleted. Nevertheless, I assumed there was a deletion debate I had missed, so I checked out the deleted history (for some reason the talk page was left without a deleted notice pointing to the debate).

Having seen that the deletion was applied under erroneous circumstances (there was no consensus to delete. Consensus may be a subjective thing, but it's certainly >50%), I undeleted. I would have posted to votes for undeletion if it had been validly deleted, but as its deletion had not been accepted on the Afd page, I didn't see that as necessary.

Apologies for not posting you a notice.

zoney ♣ talk 13:31, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

But you see, it was already on votes for undeletion (DRV). Your action was completely unnecessary. Moreover, it's up to DRV to determine if deletion was erroneous (and it will likely determine so), not just one admin. Mackensen (talk) 13:56, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

I apologise for my actions, having reviewed Misplaced Pages:Undeletion policy it seems I was indeed in error. Where I was coming from is detailed in my personal response to Lar at User talk:Lar. zoney ♣ talk 14:54, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Response to request for information

I have provided a response to your request for more information at Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_checkuser#TPIRFanSteve. If you need more specific information, please feel free to let me know. Thanks! - CobaltBlueTony 15:45, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Unrelated? Perhaps you have another explanation of my observations, especially after the appearance of Daor Nedlog (talk · contribs). Every new user comes in and supports User:TPIRFanSteve, regardless of whether he's right. What's his game, then? - CobaltBlueTony 17:08, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Unknown. My observations are based on IP evidence. Mackensen (talk) 19:09, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your efforts. They are genuinely appreciated! - CobaltBlueTony 14:28, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Arbor View High School on deletion review

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Arbor View High School. Since you closed the deletion discussion for (or speedy-deleted) this article, your reasons on how or why you did so will be greatly appreciated in the above review. --Deathphoenix ʕ 00:20, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes, thanks, I expected as much. Mackensen (talk) 02:27, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
- I did some more investigation of this school and found several attributes that I found notable and thought were article-worthy. (Starting with it being the largest school in the fifth largest school district in the country.) As you deleted the article "without prejudice to re-creation", I took the liberty of creating it again in a somewhat expanded form. Thank you. — RJH (talk) 02:50, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
  - Outstanding. Happy editing, Mackensen (talk) 02:54, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Military history WikiProject Newsletter - Issue IV - June 2006

The June 2006 issue of the Military history WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. Kirill Lokshin 05:42, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Names of European cities in different languages

It appears you closed this AfD as a "Delete" on the 27th (along with the other 2), but the article is still here?--Isotope23 19:10, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

It's a really long story. I'd suggest wandering over to WP:DRV for full comprehension. Short version: I deleted; deletion was challenged; another admin undeleted one (but not the other two) by accident/on purpose. Mackensen (talk) 20:17, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Fair enough... thanks.--Isotope23 15:22, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Checkuser for General Tojo

I have added some requests for check user for possible additional sock puppets which have sprung up, if you could investigtate: Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_checkuser#General_Tojo. Thanks. Andrew73 21:46, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

I've added a couple more names for checkuser! Thanks. Andrew73 11:29, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Names of Asian cities in different languages on deletion review

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Names of Asian cities in different languages. Since you closed the deletion discussion for (or speedy-deleted) this article, your reasons on how or why you did so will be greatly appreciated in the above review. The same for Names of African cities in different languages. Thanks. --Lysy 22:15, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Walt Disney logos

I'm somewhat concerned about your deletion of Logos of the Walt Disney company. How is this case different from, e.g., Closing logos of Viacom or Google logo? There was clearly no consensus for deletion, so what policy is your decision to close the debate with deletion based on? Is there an actual policy against fair use galleries in encyclopedic articles?--Eloquence * 18:43, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, I suppose the major difference is that I didn't close those two. There's no specific policy against fair use galleries per se, but I cannot imagine any scenario in which you could have a gallery composed of fair use images without breaching that doctrine. There's no need to enable copyright violation; it's rampant enough as is. Mackensen (talk) 02:26, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

CheckUser

Hi. You recently handled a CheckUser of my account and the account of one of my friends. The incident that spurred this also involved two new users, User:Plinky and User:Daor Nedlog, who are unrelated to me but who others suspect I am using to meatpuppet. When I came home tonight, I discovered that someone has now created the blatant imposter account of User:TPlRFanSteve and was using it for vandalism before it was blocked.

If I were to request a CheckUser of Plinky, Daor Nedlog, and TPlRFanSteve, would I be able to find out if one or more of them is editing from Dayton, Ohio (and more specifically, the Dayton Public Library System)? If they are, there's a very good chance that they're a person named Harvey Daye, Jr. who has been trolling the online game show community for close to six years and who holds a particularly large grudge against me. This is getting to a point where it's ridiculous, and I'd like to at least know if there's an explanation for it that reaches beyond Misplaced Pages. -TPIRFanSteve 01:48, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Even if I obtained such information I would be unable to release it absent extraordinary circumstances. If you can demonstrate systematic harrassment then we can block him on sight regardless of his actual identity. Mackensen (talk) 02:59, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Okay, fair enough. Don't want to do anything that would violate policy. -TPIRFanSteve 03:14, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Checkuser clerk assistance

Aside from the tag on the checkuser page, I do belive many of the checkuser clerks have Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_checkuser/Clerks/Requests watchlisted. Big red flag for help if you post a comment there. Its there for you to bug the clerks. Discussiony stuff is on that page's associated talk page. There's other pages there that were created several weeks back that you may find interesting, but mainly the noticeboard is all you probably need to read. Of a related note, I'm currently looking at Misplaced Pages:Requests for checkuser/Case/Ceraurus. It all screwy, but I'll finish it tonight, probably late. Kevin_b_er 05:09, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Its done! Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_checkuser/Clerks/Requests#Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_checkuser.2FCase.2FCeraurus Keep in mind that my summary is, of course, unofficial as checkuser clerks are quite unofficial. Kevin_b_er 08:55, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Excellent, thanks. Mackensen (talk) 12:08, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Haris Cizmic

I had assumed at the time of closing that they were sockpuppets and was not suprised to see you tag Lionette earlier. Do you think that even with the sockpuppet activity that the three articles, Haris Cizmic, Adisa Cizmic and AXA (band) should be listed for AfD? I did believe that Haris Cizmic was notable enough to warrent an article in light of the changes to the article, the provided references and most of the delete comments were prior to the changes. Which is why I closed it as keep, against consensus (suprised I didn't get any complaints about that). Can you check the three articles and if you think they should be relisted I will do it as a group and list it due to sockpuppetry. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 13:30, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Nah, they're too busy taking all of my closes to DRV so you slipped through ;). I think for transparency's sake they should all be relisted so that an actual discussion can take place. The three articles seem to me to be hovering on the edge of inclusion, and they're marred by bad formatting and likely copyvios. Mackensen (talk) 13:34, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

All done. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 14:28, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Haris Cizmic AfD

I'm the guy who started this whole mess. Once I was able to quiet the mob, a good-faith effort was made to fix the page to Misplaced Pages standards. Once I asked them to put that energy into fixing the page instead, The sockpuppetry essentially ceased. The pages as they stand now meet Misplaced Pages standards, and editors other than the sockpuppets put a lot of effort into helping them get fixed instead of deleted. If a sanction is necessary, it would be better to sanction the editors who behaved badly, instead of pages that would otherwise not be up for deletion. --DarkAudit 15:47, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Haris Cizmic copyright violations

If the images are the work of the author of the page (or a young nephew as a favor, see AfD for Haris Cizmic's input), how can they be a copyright violation? There was a good bit of discussion on this in the original AfD, and it appeared that the matter was settled satisfactorally. --DarkAudit 15:56, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

PLZ Help

How to interpret your judgement .Does this mean I am being declared as sock of user:wmnnzzr.Holywarrior 15:57, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

It means what it says. Mackensen (talk) 16:31, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

RFCU General Tojo

Can you take another look at Misplaced Pages:Requests for checkuser/Case/General Tojo? They're adding more names and asking for a range block. Thatcher131 16:52, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Mwahahahaha

Looks like you've landed the job of being Lead Checker now <insert evil laugh here>; ping me when you're feeling overloaded and I'll do my best to lend a hand. Will check in inasmuch as is possible while retaining my sanity. ;) Thanks for doing the job, and my sympathies on the harassment that will no doubt soon beseige you. Essjay (Talk • Connect) 08:51, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Heh, thanks. Glad to see you around again. Mackensen (talk) 10:51, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Request for IP disclosure

I see that the privacy policy allows for disclosure of IP addresses turned up using CheckUser in the interests of combatting vandalism. Well, User:Dragon Emperor has threatened to keep making sockpuppets. I would be interested in obtaining the IP address(es) of Dragon Emperor so I can place nice long blocks on them to combat the abusive socks. I'll be in the admin IRC channel if you'd prefer to disclose the IP privately. Thanks. --Lord Deskana (talk) 22:51, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Oh, by the way, I contacted you because you responded to the checkuser case. Thanks for that, by the way. --Lord Deskana (talk) 22:52, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Walt Disney logos discussion

Hello,

I was looking for the previous discussion of the Walt Disney logos page, which was at Talk:Logos of the Walt Disney company. Do you know where it went? You didn't, by any chance, use your "oversight" privilege?--Eloquence * 12:06, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Actually, the discussion in question is here: Talk:Logos of the Walt Disney Company. Appears Calton (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) tagged it as a speedy last night. Eloquence, I've got considerable respect for you as a long-time contributor (longer than myself by far), but I'm really offended by the insinuation that I've got something to hide here and that I'm trying to squelch discussion. Mackensen (talk) 13:40, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Apologies. I checked my contributions for comments, but didn't find the page anymore. I tried finding it manually, but got bitten by case sensitivity and suspected oversight as a possible explanation for the apparent complete lack of track record (which might have been partially appropriate if there was a copyvio I didn't know about). I don't think that the talk page should have been speedied and have undeleted it (ongoing discussion about the deletion is explicitly cited in CSD as a reason not to speedy), but you were at no fault whatsoever. Sorry for the confusion. :-)--Eloquence * 13:48, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

LinkStation on deletion review

An editor has asked for a deletion review of LinkStation. Since you closed the deletion discussion for (or speedy-deleted) this article, your reasons on how or why you did so will be greatly appreciated in the above review. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Reswobslc (talk • contribs) .

As the deleting administrator I support my own judgement. Clear consensus of established users to delete. Mackensen (talk) 21:50, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
- Please describe your assessment of "clear consensus". I see five keeps (six if you count that I mislabeled my own) and six deletes. That's about half-and-half if you ask me, and is by no means "clear". That's also before considering that four of the deletes were for a completely different version of the page that really was more like advertising and had little resemblance to the article you deleted. The original nominator of the article changed his mind as well (see his comment David Humphreys 02:02 28 June 2006). Also please see the comments at Deletion review. If LinkStation needs to go, so be it. But if it needs to go because "consensus has been reached", then that is a mistake. Reswobslc 23:37, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Just wanted to say thanks for running the checkuser for me! Gsd2000 01:30, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Ditto. Just a follow-up: Shouldn't User:XGustaX be blocked as well as the puppeteer, or is that covered by blocking his IP? ~ trialsanderrors 02:20, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

I generally don't block the puppeteer; there's no established precedent for such blocking, save in extreme situations. That is to say, he isn't banned by the community and no such ban has yet been sought. Mackensen (talk) 02:39, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

OK, thanks for the info. ~ trialsanderrors 02:49, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Can I remove the tag?

The user who has claimed that I (User:SincereGuy) was a sockpuppet (or sockmaster, he/she couldn't make up his/hers mind) of another user seemingly simply because I disagreed with him/her, got his/hers request for a CheckUser turned down. Can I remove the "suspected sockpuppet" tag now? --SincereGuy 05:19, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Sure. Mackensen (talk) 10:58, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Help with CheckUser

I am certain that User:Truthwanted is User:192.117.103.90, avoiding violation of WP:3RR at Persecution of Jehovah's Witnesses by logging out. Actions and language are identical. HELP!!! - CobaltBlueTony 19:21, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

You don't need CheckUser for that. I'd suggest WP:AN3RR or WP:ANI. Best, Mackensen (talk) 20:51, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

British Isles

A few days ago, Jtdirl posted the following note on my user talk page: Your skill is required on British Isles where some users are intent on POV-pushing and downplaying the fact that many people find the term offensive. FearÉIREANN\(caint) 16:55, 4 July 2006 (UTC) Now that I'm involved in the article, I see that the problem is one that two editors together cannot resolve. So, if you have the time, a skilled editor such as yourself is quite needed on the article. Regards. 172 | Talk 22:26, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

re: queary

Hello, I could not find an email address in your profile. Hope that is not an issue with whatever you need me for. Apologies for the slow delay, I've just returned from vacation. You can reach me at avick86@gmail.com, as specified on my userpage. AscendedAnathema 01:01, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

For the moment I regard the matter as settled. In the future, you can click the "email this user" link on the left-hand toolbox. Mackensen (talk) 02:24, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

RFCU Ceraurus

Can you sprotect Misplaced Pages:Requests for checkuser/Case/Ceraurus? It's a long story. Thatcher131 02:49, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Done. Mackensen (talk) 10:58, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm not sure whether to file an expanded RFCU myself regarding Ellis/Kinsella etc. or just let them stew in their own walled garden where it doesn't affect me. I'm not sure that anything can stop these editors from being dicks short of arbitration and even then I expect they would just try and sneak back. Sigh. Thatcher131 11:20, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Email note

I've dropped you a Misplaced Pages email, containing the evidence supporting an indef block on JHartley as a reincarnation of indef blocked user HeadleyDown. It's following the comment that if he is a reincarnation he should be blocked.

For reasons explained in the email, I do not want to put the evidence on a public page. I hope you're okay with it being sent by email instead. It's not too long. Please let me know when you get it. Diffs are included. Thanks. FT2 13:23, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Addendum to "Here is my attack"

Well, I hace confessed to vandalizing for the past several months, and for permanently scarring my reputation. I want to state now that Tex's contention that I haven't left is entirely false, I only came back on the 23rd to voice my opinion against RobChurch, and his RfA. Well, my attack: I am sorry for being the CIyde vandal and for my attacks on John Reid. I am sorry that I came here, stressing myself, and others out. To further emphasize this, I did create an account with the intention of it being constructive after a three month long meltdown. Hopefully, I will be able to edit constructively, and I am sorry for all the trouble I cause. Yes, people reform, and to be honest, the point of the vandalism was to attract attention to what I see as incivility, and the reasons several of my friends have left here. But vandalism is vandalism, so I better quit before I get in trouble. I am sorry I was ever apart of the project. I DONT want to be a Brian Chase. But, at least I did edit here constructively for a year and three months before I went haywire.ε γκυκλοπαίδεια*14:34, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Addendum: It is my wish to make it clear that I want to return to the encyclopedia, and I am asking that my block may be lifted so I can continue my work here. I sincerely apologize for my actions.ε γκυκλοπαίδεια*16:47, 7 July 2006 (UTC)