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| Ok. Please cite the information in said article that cannot be linked to any references. Please also consider the fact that the existence of the predescribed is a moral issue. Misplaced Pages is also go-to website which is accessible to all age groups, and thus the ability to access such a page might enfringe upon laws involving the protection of more vulnerable users. I'm sorry if my tone was impolite in any of the prior messages, but as somebody who has suffered with mental illness, I believe my stance on the topic is valid. The page has been viewed by 80,000 people in the past 30 days alone and many of those viewers will be mentally ill or distressed. ] (]) 21:51, 16 September 2014 (UTC) | Ok. Please cite the information in said article that cannot be linked to any references. Please also consider the fact that the existence of the predescribed is a moral issue. Misplaced Pages is also go-to website which is accessible to all age groups, and thus the ability to access such a page might enfringe upon laws involving the protection of more vulnerable users. I'm sorry if my tone was impolite in any of the prior messages, but as somebody who has suffered with mental illness, I believe my stance on the topic is valid. The page has been viewed by 80,000 people in the past 30 days alone and many of those viewers will be mentally ill or distressed. ] (]) 21:51, 16 September 2014 (UTC) | ||
| :{{ping|Redzimus}} If you think content in the article is not referenced properly then you can bring it up on the talk page or remove the info carefully when you are autoconfirmed. You should know "but it's the moral thing to do" probably won't get you very far as that argument is used without success when people try to blank articles related to sex ("children are reading this") or religion ("that's against our religion"). I sympathize with your position but what we should be doing is making sure the information is factual, dispassionate, and does not fall afoul of ]. --] <sup>]</sup> 23:41, 16 September 2014 (UTC) | :{{ping|Redzimus}} If you think content in the article is not referenced properly then you can bring it up on the talk page or remove the info carefully when you are autoconfirmed. You should know "but it's the moral thing to do" probably won't get you very far as that argument is used without success when people try to blank articles related to sex ("children are reading this") or religion ("that's against our religion"). I sympathize with your position but what we should be doing is making sure the information is factual, dispassionate, and does not fall afoul of ]. --] <sup>]</sup> 23:41, 16 September 2014 (UTC) | ||
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Hong Kong (page)
Hello NeilN, this is Pageswriter. Thank you for pointing out the problem of recentism in my edit. Despite my political views, I aimed to remain as neutral as possible by avoiding opinionated facts and by including views from opposing sides.
Do you think a timeline is a good idea? My intention of adding this was to provide convenience for readers who might have to navigate their way through a long section of 'History'.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Pageswriter (talk • contribs) 01:37 2 September 2014 (UTC)
- Hi Pageswriter. A timeline may be better suited to History of Hong Kong. However, recentism aside, your 2014 text definitely did not read as neutral (e.g., your repeated use of communist and your use of scare quotes) and was unsourced. --NeilN 01:51, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
Laverne Cox
I shouldn't have to get consensus on my life. When a transgender person is referred to by our birth name it misgenders us and encourages people who hate trans people to misgender. Having this information on Misplaced Pages encourages hate and affects the quality of my life as a trans person. Can you take it down please? I beg you.
Also Chelsea Manning transitioned publicly and her pre transition name was public knowledge before she transitioned. This is something I have never shared with anyone. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lavernecox3000 (talk • contribs)
- Replied here. --NeilN 02:13, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
Lord Laitinen
I thank you for your advice. You were one of the few people who were respectful in disagreeing with my opinion. I meant nothing negative by the statement you emphasized; it simply meant that if there were consequences for making threats of suicide, then it would dissuade many people from doing so in the future. Again, thank you for being respectful in this situation. Lord Laitinen (talk) 02:23, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
- Lord Laitinen unfortunately it seems that you have a misguided understanding of a suicidal person's behaviour. If a person threatens suicide and they get help, there's a chance that they might not kill themselves. Blocking someone for threatening suicide serves to decrease the chance of getting help for being suicidal, which then increases the chance of that person dying. The only consequence for threatening suicide should be getting that person help, not trying to dissuade them from speaking out. --Ca2james (talk) 19:10, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
Odisha Edit
Neil, this is in reference to your deletion of my adding of pics on the Odisha page. I am reverting back the addition of pics as Odisha has richer cultural history than other states. In architecture, while other Indian states in the north with Nagara style architecture suffered massive iconoclasm, Odisha did not. That is the reason Bhubaneswar, Puri and Konark exhibit remarkably rich examples of architecture representing Odisha's unbroken history. The pics are not at all out of context, as they concern only and only Odisha. They just make the article richer and more beautiful. I have not deleted anything. I do not change the factual lines in any article. I just add more visuals to the cultural and historical sections of some articles. There is no wikipedia rule for deleting that. I ALWAYS make sure, the pics do not exceed the text, which is the rule. In this case however, I will delete one or two pics.
I do not know from where in the world you are. I highly respect your vigilance. I hope you will help me in making wikipedia richer and more visually appealing. Thank You.
I agree we should not sandwich entire articles of images. I always add images to one or two sections. I also will not want to make an entire article full of images.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by PankajSaksena (talk • contribs) 16:52, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
- @PankajSaksena: Every single editor on here can probably make the case that the article on my home of "x" needs more pictures because "y". Twelve pictures in one section is not happening. The sandwiching of an entire section is not happening. --NeilN 17:02, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
- Our guidelines are at Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style/Images. Dougweller (talk) 17:02, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
@Neil. Okay, I will un-sandwich the images and delete a few more, though now they are not 12 as you said. Is there a stipulated amount of images to be included in one section? If you could tell, I will be careful in future.
Moreover, you called one revert as edit war. It is my first and only one, as you just deleted the entire stuff, and even when I reverted, I deleted a few images, complying with your suggestions. I will comply more and do the above needful. I am also an editor, as you are, so calling one revert an edit war with multiple editors is not happening either. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PankajSaksena (talk • contribs) 17:11, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
- @PankajSaksena: Initial addition, revert, revert. Twelve images. The amount of images is obviously tied to the length of a section. A one paragraph section shouldn't have five images. Longer sections can have more images, but not so many that they have to appear on both sides. --NeilN 17:19, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
Islamic Encyclopedia
About Author:
Syed Iqbal Zaheer, a mechanical engineer by training and profession, is today a well-known researcher and writer on Islam, its culture and civilization. Quite apart from the Tafsir Ishraq al-Ma'ani, the fourteen-volume commentary on the Qur'an, he is also the author of numerous books and booklets on Islam.
Recently, he headed, in his capacity as the Chief Editor, the ambitious 'An Educational Encyclopedia of Islam' project which is a two-volume, 1300 multi- colour page, compendium of knowledge on Islam, its civilization and heritage. The Young Muslim Digest, one of the most authentic periodicals on Islam in English has been edited by him since the last three decades.
Books Published by Syed Iqbal Zaheer
http://www.youngmuslimdigest.com/iqra-publications/
Online version of the recent book "An Educational Encyclopedia of Islam"
http://islamicencyclopedia.org/public/index/topics
The website of Islamic Encyclopedia is actually an online version of the book “An Educational Encyclopedia of Islam”
http://www.edupediaislam.com/ This is an official website where you can find the complete information concerning the book “An Educational Encyclopedia of Islam” and the author “Mr. Syed Iqbal Zaheer”
Further you can also find the mentions of Mr. Syed Iqbal Zaheer in “About Us” page of Islamic Encyclopedia website;
http://islamicencyclopedia.org/public/index/aboutUs
Moreover, here I’m mentioning some of the authenticated profiles of Mr. Syed Iqbal Zaheer for your consideration. Syed Iqbal Zaheer’s author profile on amazon; http://www.amazon.com/Syed-Iqbal-Zaheer/e/B00MXXXZU4
Syed Iqbal Zaheer’s author profile on Good Reads; http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/3515937.Syed_Iqbal_Zaheer
You may also find the work of Mr. Syed Iqbal Zaheer on Misplaced Pages; https://en.wikipedia.org/Tafsir_Ishraq_Al-Ma'ani
You may also find him and about his publication on news;
http://www.milligazette.com/news/2441-educational-encyclopedia-of-islam
Here some books are mentioned written by Mr. Syed Iqbal Zaheer
An Educational Encyclopedia of Islam on Amazon; http://www.amazon.in/An-Educational-Encyclopedia-Islam-Volumes/dp/6039000449/ref=aag_m_pw_dp?ie=UTF8&m=A23ZXOCER9ZMRI
• Book: I Want to Repent, But…, Published 2006 by International Islamic Publishing House (IIPH)
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/16154055-i-want-to-repent-but
• Book: An Educational Encyclopedia of Islam, Published 2010 by Iqra Welfare Trust
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13557128-an-educational-encyclopedia-of-islam
• Book: Fake Pearls, Published 2002 by al-Attique Publishers, Inc.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13557275-fake-pearls
• Book: A Short History of Israel, Published 1993 by Abul-Qasim Publishing House
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13557282-a-short-history-of-israel
• Book: Tafsir Ishraq al-Ma’ani: Being a Quintessence of Qur'anic Commentaries, Published 2008 by Iqra Publications
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/8132970-tafsir-ishraq-al-ma-ani
• Book: Islam the Religion You Can No Longer Ignore, Publisher: Iqra Publications (2002)
• Book: The Short History of Israel, Publisher: Abul-Qasim Publishing House (January 1, 2003)
Book: A Voice to Hear, Al-Attique Publishers, Incorporated, 01-Jan-2000
I hope these references will be enough to be acceptable as a reliable source.
SheikhJunaidAhmed — Preceding undated comment added 07:07, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
- Hi SheikhJunaidAhmed. Thanks for this. Are there any academic papers that reference his work? --NeilN 12:50, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
About notability of an individual
The person I am writing about is senior journalist and has worked on many prominent projects with PM of India, Narendra Modi and CM of Gujarat Anandiben Patel. Can you guide me on what should I cite to justify the notability of an individual? How can I cite offline articles? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Prafuldaga (talk • contribs) 13:28, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
- Hi Prafuldaga. The relevant guideline is WP:BIO. Please also see WP:NOTINHERITED. Working with or writing about famous people does not confer notability. Basically, a person needs to coverage on themselves from independent sources to be considered notable. Please see Help:Referencing_for_beginners#References_not_online for the answer to your cite question. --NeilN 13:38, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
I have added few links as citations for the article I am trying to create in the sandbox at https://en.wikipedia.org/User:Prafuldaga/sandbox. How can I get it peer-reviewed before I submit it as article for main review? Prafuldaga (talk) 07:26, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
- @Prafuldaga: You can add the code {{subst:submit}} at the top of the sandbox page. I had a look and in my opinion, the article as it currently stands has little hope of surviving a deletion review. There are no sources provided that have significant coverage of the subject. --NeilN 14:41, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
Buddhism
You claimed the edit/ section I created in Talk was disruptive editting and inappropriate discussion. I have looked up both these topics and do not agree with your views. There is nothing in my editting that can be attributed to it being disruptive editting or inappropriate discussion under Wiki policies. You are misusing the terms to remove my edits for reasons unknown. I guess it may be that you hold buddhist beliefs or that you are sympathetic to buddhist authorities, and unable to handle a challenge based on facts. If that is the case, then there is a conflict of interest for you to edit the topic, and you should not edit it. I seek to reinstate the section that you deleted. 86.180.152.25 (talk) 00:20, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
- You are free to report me to WP:ANI if you think my behavior is problematic. Just as I will do if you continue to blatantly misrepresent sources. --NeilN 14:32, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
- NeilN, are your accusations for real? When and where did I blatantly or unblatantly misrepresent sources? 86.180.152.25 (talk) 00:28, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
- The BBC source had nothing about cannabis-growing activities. --NeilN 00:36, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
- NeilN, are your accusations for real? When and where did I blatantly or unblatantly misrepresent sources? 86.180.152.25 (talk) 00:28, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
- NeilN, surely if you want to edit or admin to an article, you would do well to know something about the subject. Just Google Vietnamese and cannabis and see the thousands of incidents and references that come up. 86.180.152.25 (talk) 00:12, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
- If you want to edit an article, you should read WP:V, WP:RS, and WP:BURDEN. --NeilN 00:15, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
- NeilN, surely if you want to edit or admin to an article, you would do well to know something about the subject. Just Google Vietnamese and cannabis and see the thousands of incidents and references that come up. 86.180.152.25 (talk) 00:12, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
- Done. I don't see any problem. 86.180.152.25 (talk) 00:17, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
- In your careful two minute analysis it's obvious you missed, "All content must be verifiable. The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material, and is satisfied by providing a citation to a reliable source that directly supports the contribution." --NeilN 00:20, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
- Done. I don't see any problem. 86.180.152.25 (talk) 00:17, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
Labia majora
You talk about edit warring and said to talk with the editor about it but you did not talk with me until after the page had been locked. Did you not start the edit war by deleting an edit without talking about it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nipplewoman (talk • contribs) 22:19, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
- @Nipplewoman: See WP:BRD. You made an edit, you were reverted (by two different editors); now you need to discuss and get consensus for your edit. --NeilN 22:24, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
I came to a consensus with the first editor. Then you decided to cause problems as well because you believe you know more than accredited medical school. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nipplewoman (talk • contribs) 22:28, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
- With Flyer22? I very much doubt she would agree with your assessment. --NeilN 22:30, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
Did you talk to her? Obviously not because you have your head too far up your ass. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nipplewoman (talk • contribs) 22:45, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
- @Nipplewoman: This is what she wrote: "You should take the matter to that article talk page." So, essentially, WP:BRD. --NeilN 22:50, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, Nipplewoman, I've commented on my talk page about the matter at hand. I have not come to a consensus with you on the matter (also see WP:Consensus), but I am open to hearing what you have to state on it. Flyer22 (talk) 22:59, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
NeilN,
Thank you for archiving my edit. I was reading through the page about the food chain and realized that my information was different to yours. It is possible that I may have gotten the wrong information. Thank you for the help and I will be more careful when editing something next time!
DrSheldonLeeCooper
— Preceding unsigned comment added by DrSheldonLeeCooper (talk • contribs) 18:04, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
Foreskin Page Image Reversion
I'm new to wikipedia. Can a page only have a certain number of images? Isn't it better to have more than only a few, for educational purposes? I don't view the image I added to the Foreskin page as redundant. The lead image is not representative of the average foreskin, so I believe it's good to have more images on the page. I'm not trying to argue. Anonymous 001100 (talk) 22:45, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
- Replied here. --NeilN 22:51, 9 September 2014 (UTC) And every guy thinks his johnny is something special... --NeilN 22:51, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
Talk:Tropes vs. Women in Video Games
Well I was trying to axe that entire section for being such pointless dribble, but apparently all I did was just revert you. Ooops! Zero Serenity 01:31, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
- Zero Serenity, no worries. I saw the immediate re-revert and figured it was an accident. --NeilN 01:49, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
Reply for your suggestion
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
Web Design Royale Link is Deleted From Davangere Wiki
Web Design Royale Started it's company basically from Davangere City, and we are the First Firm To Introduce Technology to Davangere so kindly note it's not any advertising, but it's a fact kindly add the link and content back i can provide your reference website created in davangere city. Hotel Pooja International — Preceding unsigned comment added by Praveenbhagawatihubli (talk • contribs) 15:06, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
- @Praveenbhagawatihubli: No, this is pure and simple spam. Please stop trying to advertise your company on Misplaced Pages. --NeilN 15:10, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
Laverne Cox 2
Hi, I made the edit on the Laverne Cox page and am now responding to your message. I don't need to hide images or things that may offend me, I am not the problem. However I am very well versed in trans issues and I know firsthand that after transition having your birth name known is less then ideal, especially because people often see it as an invitation to use that name in an attempt to humiliate the person. But what do I know, if you really think information from her birth certificate is vital to the point of the page then there is nothing I can do.
Thank you anyway. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.219.33.4 (talk) 00:43, 14 September 2014 (UTC)
edits
hi, I appreciate your concern, regarding this current problem. I never violate 3RR, and also I already wrote on the article talk page, a little while ago. And stated the points and positions. About "synthesis" and unsourced unwarranted POV statements. But again, I will not (and do not) violate 3RR. Regards. Gabby Merger (talk) 18:46, 14 September 2014 (UTC)
I am not a sockpuppet
Hello. Have you seen the long section about how I am a sockpuppet? Is it ok to use your user page to attack editors? I think not, that is why I deleted it. I explained the deletion, in the edit summary, and a message on the users talk page. However, the material has been replaced. What course of action can I take to remove the unsubstantiated, and insulting allegations? Or, alternatively, do you also believe me to be a sockpuppet? Read my articles, and compare them to something by this PassaMethod editor, and see if there's any similarity. Can I see some of his stuff?zzz (talk) 02:38, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
- zzz, I do not see you mentioned anywhere. What are you referring to? --NeilN 02:41, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
- Its the sockpuppet section. Pass a maethod is very specifically me - current editor of Boko Haram (which I wrote),and recreational drugs (which I also wrote). She has been accusing me of this for a while, and I just noticed it there.zzz (talk) 02:45, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
- Wow, shes listed everything Ive ever done...zzz (talk) 02:47, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
- I had a look at his writing, and his grammar is just not good enough. Not even close.zzz (talk) 02:49, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
- zzz, She's detailed the habits of Pass a Method. She hasn't mentioned you by name or even linked to any of your edits. --NeilN 02:52, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
- I had a look at his writing, and his grammar is just not good enough. Not even close.zzz (talk) 02:49, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
I don't understand your point.zzz (talk) 02:57, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
- @Signedzzz: There are no accusations against you on Flyer22's page. You have no cause to delete it. --NeilN 03:00, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
Everything in this para, except the Erection bit, applies to me.
If you find an editor doing several or more of the following things, that editor is very likely a Pass a Method WP:Sockpuppet: Significantly editing the Boko Haram article and other Islamic articles (I mean any editor who is the current main/continuous editor of the Boko Haram article). Editing religious topics in general, including the addition of anything about Pope Francis (whether it's the Pope Francis article or, for example, an addition to the Recreational drug use article about him). Editing LGBT articles. Editing political articles. Editing sexual articles. Editing medical and/or anatomy articles. Editing science topics such as the Big Bang article, or topics about black holes; the Stellar black hole article, for example, could be a candidate. Visiting the WP:Help desk. Focusing on leads. Focusing on British topics; using British spelling. Using editing summaries that are meant to deceive. Using Urban Dictionary as a source, whether it's at the Erection article, or, for example, the Roach (smoking) article. Adding a picture of someone smoking to their user page or talk page. Makes notes on his user page of the articles he's edited, soon after editing those articles.
I don't understand, what diff does it make about mentioning my name? She has made certain noone can fail to know exactly who I am. zzz (talk) 03:04, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
- @Signedzzz: No, until you brought it up, it's very unlikely anyone looking at her user page would think she was referring to you. I edit a lot of pages infested by socks. I'm not going to say, "hey, you're referring to me!" if I see a list of articles on a user page along with the sockmaster who has edited them. --NeilN 03:10, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
I didnt understand that comment. Are you saying , as you appear to be, that you believe I am "the sockmaster"? I asked you that to begin with, and you denied it. If this is just a private joke between you two, I can take my grievance somewhere else. zzz (talk) 03:14, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
- zzz, I have no idea if you're a sockpuppet - I haven't looked at your edits that closely. I noticed you wiping out Flyer22's user page repeatedly so I stepped in to stop it. When you said it contained accusations against you I looked and could find nothing on the page pointing towards you. --NeilN 03:20, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
"the current main/continuous editor of the Boko Haram article" etc, etc, etc...zzz (talk) 03:24, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
That is undeniably specific. I couldnt possibly refer to anyone but me, with this account, that is, not any of my illegitimate accounts. I dont understand what the problem is with removing a personal attack.zzz (talk) 03:29, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
- @Signedzzz: "I mean any editor who is the current main/continuous editor of the Boko Haram article" If you have concerns with a portion of her user page, the proper course of action is to discuss it with her on her talk page, and not just blank the whole thing repeatedly while issuing a threat. --NeilN 03:32, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
Any means me, as you can see from the history of the article.zzz (talk) 03:35, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
But, your saying I should go and discuss whether she might take down the personal attack section of her page. If she feels like it. That's ok, she can just carry on attcking me, I guess. Cheers. zzz (talk) 03:39, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
- I am willing to remove the "any main editor" commentary that I very recently added, per my comment on my talk page about this case. Flyer22 (talk) 03:50, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
- The Signedzzz account was created 26 May 2014, but the first edit was
10 September 2014see below. After that date, the only changes to User:Flyer22 relevant to this discussion were to add the following: "(I mean any editor who is the current main/continuous editor of the Boko Haram article)
" and "or talk page. Makes notes on his user page of the articles he's edited, soon after editing those articles
". There is no way that text can be interpreted as an accusation against Signedzzz. Why all the fuss? Johnuniq (talk) 04:12, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for that, Johnuniq, I was under the impression that I had been editing for months! This whole discussion has been most enlightening. Thanks to all concerned for revealing the way that WP is run nowadays. An experienced editor can attack anyone he/she chooses. I did not know that was how it was. Thanks again. zzz (talk) 17:05, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
- People make mistakes and it's best to just point them out without circumlocution. Checking shows that I made a blunder above—I've struck it out because your first edit was 6 June 2014. Johnuniq (talk) 02:42, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for that, Johnuniq, I was under the impression that I had been editing for months! This whole discussion has been most enlightening. Thanks to all concerned for revealing the way that WP is run nowadays. An experienced editor can attack anyone he/she chooses. I did not know that was how it was. Thanks again. zzz (talk) 17:05, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
I understand
Who are u exactly? And why are you editing things on MY page if it's MY page. I completely understand the final warning I was just testing wikipedia this is my first day on this thing. Even if I didn't write what I did how did u find out. And could Kim and kanye find out? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Janaewiki (talk • contribs) 03:42, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
- @Janaewiki: Nothing on Misplaced Pages is "your" page. Talk pages are there for editors to use for communication about Misplaced Pages and its articles. Anyone can see exactly what you've written. Right now, you're this close to being blocked so please start contributing constructively. You can read Misplaced Pages:Contributing to Misplaced Pages if you want tips on how to do that. --NeilN 03:50, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
- Ok how do I protect my page like the others are. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Janaewiki (talk • contribs)
- @Janaewiki: What page are you referring to? --NeilN 04:00, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
- I have a page where I edit the latest updates but it's not protected with the lock on the pencil how do I get that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Janaewiki (talk • contribs)
- @Janaewiki: You don't. The only one causing issues at Wounded Knee Massacre is you. --NeilN 04:09, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
- Yes you have told me that already. But how do others get a protected page from vandalism like beyonce or nicki minaj. But another page that I have which is very important can't have one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Janaewiki (talk • contribs)
- @Janaewiki: Please read Misplaced Pages:Protection policy. Requests go to WP:RFPP. I strongly discourage you from making any requests until you are more familiar with Misplaced Pages. --NeilN 04:39, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
- @Janaewiki: You don't. The only one causing issues at Wounded Knee Massacre is you. --NeilN 04:09, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
- I have a page where I edit the latest updates but it's not protected with the lock on the pencil how do I get that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Janaewiki (talk • contribs)
- @Janaewiki: What page are you referring to? --NeilN 04:00, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
- Ok how do I protect my page like the others are. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Janaewiki (talk • contribs)
Jairaj991
Hi NeilN,
Seeing as you've had a bit to do with Jairaj991 (talk · contribs) you'll undoubtedly be delighted to know they've created a new page Rajput warrior, with lots of references. Too bad only one out of the 45 or so 'sources' isn't a Misplaced Pages page. Just FYI!--220 of 12:29, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
- 220, sigh. Thanks. Article redirected and editor given final warning. --NeilN 12:37, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
hello
I was responding to the individual who's page I was on. Anyone who could have assumed that his comments were racist. I assumed someone reacted that way via his comments. Upon review of the talk page of the article in question it doesn't seem that anyone has. Though you did react to the comments there it seems you were suggesting something similar. That they should focus more on the consensus process and watch what they say as it could be taken wrong. Though that is an assumption. Anyway good day.Serialjoepsycho (talk) 12:51, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
- @Serialjoepsycho: You've read the discussion incorrectly. He was calling my comments racist. --NeilN 13:05, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
- It's probably because I don't actually care. I contacted the user to ask them not to canvass. After further request I offered them some advice. Before more careful with their language because they have to work with the other editors involved. I'm unsure how or why a discussion between me and you came about but what ever. Have a good day.Serialjoepsycho (talk) 18:15, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
Edit War on GamerGate
I'm trying to prevent an un-revert of my article that was trying to un-bias the article.
I'm requesting some official moderation on the matter, we need to skin the article and lock editing, or delete it entirely and take it from the top.
As it is, the whole article is an edit war and I'm trying to re-establish neutrality.EvilConker (talk) 14:32, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
- @EvilConker:. You believe your edit improved the article. Others don't. So... WP:BRD. --NeilN 14:40, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
- Other users have raised concerns about the paragraph, saying that it not only is possibly biased but also repetitive as there already is a Misplaced Pages page for Depression Quest with the same information. So instead of reverting, I modified the opening paragraph to have a link to the article in question, which I think is appropriate in this situation.EvilConker (talk) 14:46, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
- And yet only you are reverting to your preferred version. You need to stop and wait. --NeilN 14:47, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
- I will stop. However, let's be very clear that this entire article is contested. I believe it needs to be stripped entirely and locked, give the basics, what happened, no 'why it happened.' Looking at the comments section, it really looks like Masem and NorthByBrandford are the only two users both opposing neutrality and adding in biased edits. If that's what this article is, then it needs to be deleted entirely and rewritten by a true neutral team. I believe the same happened to the Occupy Wall Street/Ferguson/Trayvon Martin articles while the situation was developing.EvilConker (talk) 14:54, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
- I respectfully disagree with Masem being biased. I've worked on the article for over a week already, and Masem tries to stay neutral - although he should be more aware of adding too much detail. NorthByBrandFord however (and RedPenOfDoom) are clear biased.MicBenSte (talk) 15:00, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
- I will stop. However, let's be very clear that this entire article is contested. I believe it needs to be stripped entirely and locked, give the basics, what happened, no 'why it happened.' Looking at the comments section, it really looks like Masem and NorthByBrandford are the only two users both opposing neutrality and adding in biased edits. If that's what this article is, then it needs to be deleted entirely and rewritten by a true neutral team. I believe the same happened to the Occupy Wall Street/Ferguson/Trayvon Martin articles while the situation was developing.EvilConker (talk) 14:54, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
- And yet only you are reverting to your preferred version. You need to stop and wait. --NeilN 14:47, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
NeilN, either the article becomes balanced again like it was viewing both the harassment and misogeny as well as the allegations of corruption and wrong ethics in the game industry, or the article shouldn't exist at all.MicBenSte (talk) 14:49, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
- I retract my statement about Masem. Looking over his edits I see he's not that bad. NorthByBradford, however, is a definite issue. I apologize for my accusations.EvilConker (talk) 19:36, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
- I second this. There is far too much 'opinion' and not enough facts. It's written far too much like an essay instead of a neutral, informative, article.EvilConker (talk) 14:54, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
- The only way to get rid of that article is through AFD. And a piece of advice: "Make the changes I want to this article or delete it" won't work. This will take significant time and patience to hammer out. --NeilN 15:18, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
- Not aimed at you, but I'm getting tired of being bullied around by some senior and some less-senior editors who like to think that their POV is everything just because RSes think it's best to copy&paste from other RSes without investigating and the editors agree with it. That's why I lashed out a bit at you, sorry for that.MicBenSte (talk) 15:24, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
- I'm trying to say it's in violation of the rules, it's very biased. There is already a large call for it to be deleted and rewritten from scratch, but this anarchistic way of doing it on such a complicated issue that's leading to anti-GGs pretty much overpowering the narrative is just not alright. I consider myself a neutral person in this whole debacle, and I'm trying to keep the article neutral, as are a lot of others, but just because a person has seniority (though Masem is not a mod to the best of my knowledge) doesn't mean they are free of bias that is breaking the integrity of an article. How are we supposed to be constructive and neutral when every change made is reverted to something more biased? I'm asking for your support, I think you're a neutral person with no real connection with the issue, but you're giving the aura of supporting a person who keeps reverting every single change that has been discussed by several people. Reverting doesn't put you in the right, you can revert a good change just as well as you can revert a bad one.EvilConker (talk) 17:05, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
- Not aimed at you, but I'm getting tired of being bullied around by some senior and some less-senior editors who like to think that their POV is everything just because RSes think it's best to copy&paste from other RSes without investigating and the editors agree with it. That's why I lashed out a bit at you, sorry for that.MicBenSte (talk) 15:24, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
- The only way to get rid of that article is through AFD. And a piece of advice: "Make the changes I want to this article or delete it" won't work. This will take significant time and patience to hammer out. --NeilN 15:18, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
IP copyvio
Your edit removed the same copyvio being added by 31.49.113.139 (talk · contribs), both from Wales. I see the IP has been advised to get copyright permission and copy it. Dougweller (talk) 14:59, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
- @Dougweller: Thanks for the heads up. Added the article to my watchlist. The original IP added copyvios to multiple articles so if they pop up again, hopefully we'll spot it. --NeilN 15:13, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
- I hope so, I've just blocked about 1/2 dozen Irish school IPs, a real pain. I emailed the listed abuse address. Dougweller (talk) 15:26, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
- @Dougweller: I had a look at the book the webpage is likely copied from. 11,000 pages and $2,000. Holy heck. --NeilN 15:30, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
- I wonder if they know someone's copied some of it to a website. Dougweller (talk) 15:42, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
- @Dougweller: I had a look at the book the webpage is likely copied from. 11,000 pages and $2,000. Holy heck. --NeilN 15:30, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
- I hope so, I've just blocked about 1/2 dozen Irish school IPs, a real pain. I emailed the listed abuse address. Dougweller (talk) 15:26, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
Suicide methods
Ok. Please cite the information in said article that cannot be linked to any references. Please also consider the fact that the existence of the predescribed is a moral issue. Misplaced Pages is also go-to website which is accessible to all age groups, and thus the ability to access such a page might enfringe upon laws involving the protection of more vulnerable users. I'm sorry if my tone was impolite in any of the prior messages, but as somebody who has suffered with mental illness, I believe my stance on the topic is valid. The page has been viewed by 80,000 people in the past 30 days alone and many of those viewers will be mentally ill or distressed. Redzimus (talk) 21:51, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
- @Redzimus: If you think content in the article is not referenced properly then you can bring it up on the talk page or remove the info carefully when you are autoconfirmed. You should know "but it's the moral thing to do" probably won't get you very far as that argument is used without success when people try to blank articles related to sex ("children are reading this") or religion ("that's against our religion"). I sympathize with your position but what we should be doing is making sure the information is factual, dispassionate, and does not fall afoul of WP:NOTHOWTO. --NeilN 23:41, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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The Original Barnstar |
| Just wanted to say thanks for your last edit. The only reason I was communicating this way was due to the fact that I'm new to wiki. Have mainly been editing articles such as part-time terrorism (which is admittedly quite funny in concept) Redzimus (talk) 13:05, 17 September 2014 (UTC) |