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| What dose the Asian say | |||
| I notice that the grid with pictures of men contains no pictures of transgender men, which could be taken to bolster the incorrect idea that such men are not "real" men. I also see that the grid contains a picture of Vitruvian Man which is also shown in the body of the article. Does it need to be shown twice? Perhaps it could be replaced with a picture of a transgender man. I would suggest ] but I am open to other suggestions. If nobody objects or has other suggestions, I will make that change in a week. I know the grid can't contain examples of every type of man, but I think an example of a transgender man is especially important because some deny such men are men at all, and we don't want to seem to be in favor of that idea. ] (]) 23:07, 8 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :Going with ] here. Image edited and page updated. ] ] <small>Please {{]}}</small> 03:30, 23 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :: I reverted the image, since changing a person in the montage breaks the image description on all the other wikipedias using the image, but I uploaded a new version ]. I took the freedom to use ] instead for the sake of geographic distribution :) – ''] (])'' 22:01, 24 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::Thank you! ] ] <small>Please {{]}}</small> 23:53, 24 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :I just found a pack of transphobes gloating over the fact that an intersex man (with male internal organs) is included, not an actual XX trans man, while the ] page includes an actual trans woman (Laverne Cox). Apparently they want to interpret it as some sign that "they" t value XX people, including trans men, as highly as XY people. The comment in all its glory: http://gendertrender.wordpress.com/2014/08/22/laverne-cox-launches-media-campaign-in-support-of-transwoman-synthia-china-blast-convicted-for-the-rape-murder-and-abuse-of-the-corpse-of-thirteen-year-old-ebony-nicole-williams/#comment-40395 by "ImNoCissie". To be "above reproach" I suggest also including an XX trans man, not necessarily Chaz Bono, without removing Erik. ] (]) 16:13, 27 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::We could remove David and replace with Chaz since David's already included as an image in the body of the article. ] ] <small>Please {{]}}</small> 20:50, 27 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::Perhaps not Chaz but Buck Angel? https://commons.wikimedia.org/File:Buckangel_cowboy.JPG here is a file that has a license clearly allowing "remixing", and it's from himself. ] (]) 05:13, 30 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::: Buck Angel woudl be a great idea. There definitely should be a trans man in the picture. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 10:15, 9 September 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| But dear, transgender men aren't real men, that's just a biological fact. We need important men of history in the picture, I don't think half the people viewing this article even know who that man is. ] (]) 16:29, 24 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
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What dose the Asian say
Citations for anti-male sexism?
"Research has identified anti-male sexism in some areas which can result in what appear to be unfair advantages given to women." Should there be a citation? Ramendik (talk) 00:11, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
- Yes Secondplanet (talk) 01:06, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
- Secondplanet please provide it EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 04:48, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
Western Bias
Beyond the infobox, all the pictures are related to Europe or the United States - a picture of US presidents in particular seems like a silly thing to include in an article called "man". Secondplanet (talk) 19:21, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
About Age
A man, by definition, should be identified by his age at which he has grown long enough to be known as a man. Where is this outline located in this article ? I don't want this article to misinterpret that every man is simply a man no matter what his age is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.60.65.124 (talk) 15:46, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
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