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| :I said the article does not label them a separatist group while ''excluding'' them from the terrorist group. They are not mutually exclusive terms. See ]. Every one has a POV (recognizing that is the first step towards resolving a conflict). Focus on the edit and if that makes the ''article'' POV... try discussing it at talk the usual way maybe? I find Zerefx's comment driven by sentiment but not by a point of view as any ] civilian bombings terrorist attacks... that is for the article talkpage though. I can only advise you to resolve it there. --<span style="text-shadow:#396 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; class=texhtml">] (])</span> 15:13, 1 December 2014 (UTC) | :I said the article does not label them a separatist group while ''excluding'' them from the terrorist group. They are not mutually exclusive terms. See ]. Every one has a POV (recognizing that is the first step towards resolving a conflict). Focus on the edit and if that makes the ''article'' POV... try discussing it at talk the usual way maybe? I find Zerefx's comment driven by sentiment but not by a point of view as any ] civilian bombings terrorist attacks... that is for the article talkpage though. I can only advise you to resolve it there. --<span style="text-shadow:#396 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; class=texhtml">] (])</span> 15:13, 1 December 2014 (UTC) | ||
| ::Fine, I will. I must clarify that I actually reverted this edit after I was hunting the edits of ]. Not that I really participated on this page or any related page of Balochi conflict before. ] (]) 15:26, 1 December 2014 (UTC) | ::Fine, I will. I must clarify that I actually reverted this edit after I was hunting the edits of ]. Not that I really participated on this page or any related page of Balochi conflict before. ] (]) 15:26, 1 December 2014 (UTC) | ||
| :::Thanks. I know you were hunting the user from ] (it might be a valid split like the ] if it is done right, I can't vouch for the IP's edits here).. actually I was stalking him too as it was a very bold split.. I actually informed ] of this back then |
:::Thanks. I know you were hunting the user from ] (it might be a valid split like the ] if it is done right, I can't vouch for the IP's edits here).. actually I was stalking him too as it was a very bold split.. I actually informed ] of this back then, but I found the revert in this case indiscriminate as other users had reinstated them independently which makes it valid edit / revert, so hopefully you'll understand my reason for reverting you... I can agree to disagree on your views about the group. --<span style="text-shadow:#396 0.2em 0.2em 0.5em; class=texhtml">] (])</span> 15:29, 1 December 2014 (UTC) | ||
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Balochistan conflict
In place of reverting to nonsensical edits, try making a self revert. It is a separatist movement, not terrorist. Per whole section body. It is obvious that there is some off-site canvassing going on, because I don't see any edit war over this common term since 99.247.57.5, a sock puppet got blocked. Niether these changes have any consensus or we used this term(terrorist) ever before. Bladesmulti (talk) 14:33, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
- Two other editors independently reverted it in and I found your revert and calling them sock indiscriminately disruptive for which I reverted you... they are recognized as terrorist org in Pak and Britain... so WP:CCC? --lTopGunl (talk) 14:37, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
- It all started after a block evading sock. None of the citations actually cite them as Terrorist group. Do any of them does? If so, then change the whole article wherever they are listed as Separatist. Every new change requires consensus so it is you who has Misplaced Pages:BURDEN. Bladesmulti (talk) 14:42, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
- 1) I reverted you because of Zerefx and the second IP, both of which are not blocked or evading a block as far as I see, 2) the lede says it already that they are terrorists, infobox is a mere reflection of article. --lTopGunl (talk) 14:46, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
- "is the most widely-known Baloch separatist group" thus your edit including those 3 sounds nonsensical. Bladesmulti (talk) 14:56, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
- I don't know why it makes it alright for you to editwar and call other editors sock just because you think you are correct about the statement. For your WP:OR / WP:SYNTH from twisting the lede statement, all I have to say is separatists and terrorists are not a mutually exclusive group. That makes both versions equally correct even by your standards. Though you are free to editwar with Zerefx and the IP till you get blocked. --lTopGunl (talk) 15:05, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
- I thought we have already moved on to talk about the edit rather than talking about the IPs or users who have recently became interested in edit warring on that page. You said that infobox is a mere reflection of article, but article labels them as a separatist group. But how they are not different now? Read Misplaced Pages:TERRORIST. Bladesmulti (talk) 15:08, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
- I don't know why it makes it alright for you to editwar and call other editors sock just because you think you are correct about the statement. For your WP:OR / WP:SYNTH from twisting the lede statement, all I have to say is separatists and terrorists are not a mutually exclusive group. That makes both versions equally correct even by your standards. Though you are free to editwar with Zerefx and the IP till you get blocked. --lTopGunl (talk) 15:05, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
- "is the most widely-known Baloch separatist group" thus your edit including those 3 sounds nonsensical. Bladesmulti (talk) 14:56, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
And the person behind this nonsensical edit, has a epic POV. Bladesmulti (talk) 15:11, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
- I said the article does not label them a separatist group while excluding them from the terrorist group. They are not mutually exclusive terms. See WP:POVEDITOR. Every one has a POV (recognizing that is the first step towards resolving a conflict). Focus on the edit and if that makes the article POV... try discussing it at talk the usual way maybe? I find Zerefx's comment driven by sentiment but not by a point of view as any sane person would call civilian bombings terrorist attacks... that is for the article talkpage though. I can only advise you to resolve it there. --lTopGunl (talk) 15:13, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
- Fine, I will. I must clarify that I actually reverted this edit after I was hunting the edits of 99.247.57.5. Not that I really participated on this page or any related page of Balochi conflict before. Bladesmulti (talk) 15:26, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks. I know you were hunting the user from history of Pakistan (it might be a valid split like the history of the Republic of India if it is done right, I can't vouch for the IP's edits here).. actually I was stalking him too as it was a very bold split.. I actually informed WT:PAK of this back then, but I found the revert in this case indiscriminate as other users had reinstated them independently which makes it valid edit / revert, so hopefully you'll understand my reason for reverting you... I can agree to disagree on your views about the group. --lTopGunl (talk) 15:29, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
- Fine, I will. I must clarify that I actually reverted this edit after I was hunting the edits of 99.247.57.5. Not that I really participated on this page or any related page of Balochi conflict before. Bladesmulti (talk) 15:26, 1 December 2014 (UTC)