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Hi, I have removed the PROD from this article as it is not eligible - it was previously deleted via this method. If you still feel the topic is non-notable, please take to WP:AFD. GiantSnowman 18:24, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

The deletion log - which only I can see as an admin - confirms it was deleted by PROD on 30 September 2006. Don't think there was anyway you could have known so don't worry! GiantSnowman 10:06, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Ah, thanks! Bromley86 (talk) 19:38, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Lebanese diaspora

Don't worry you are going back to my 5-6 year edits.... I was so glad actually to come back to these edits, some of my first in Misplaced Pages. We have come a long way. These were approximate figures. We had to start somewhere. but later on, numbers were introduced from a report by the Maronite foundation and the numbers were tabulated. Some later on added some more figures were added for more reecnt countries like Denmark, Sweden, Armenia etc with no references, thus the notation "citation needed". They are as good and as bad as the ones with citations frankly. Of course this matter is not an exact science, and it all depends on what one means by "Lebanese" as some "Lebanese" were from the Ottoman Empire where all were called Syrians with no distinction. There were no countries like Lebanon, Syria, Palestine then, so no Lebanese just Syrian Ottomans (in Latin America they would be even called Turcos..) In north America they would be lumped as people from the Near east. that includes Armenians, Syriacs, Kurds, which are separate but part of what we call Lebanese or Syrian etc What we have today on the page are just "educated guesses", not real scientifically obtained statistic figures. That's what I can say.... But still better than never. werldwayd (talk) 19:52, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

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Ian Henderson

Ian Henderson was born in Nairobi, Kenya not Aberdeen! In fact he never went to Aberdeen in his life. The reason I know this is that I am a relative! It shows how one should not believe much that has been written about Ian Henderson in the press if they can't even get his birth place correct!Zayed7 (talk) 19:57, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Can I suggest you then refer to the obituary in The Times of London which is more accurate?Zayed7 (talk) 08:08, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

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Sourcing

I noticed you added a link to a Daily Mail story here, in support of a story about a living person. I thought I would point out that per WP:BLPSOURCES our policy is not to do this. In the future it would be better to get a more respectable source for material like this. Thanks a lot. --John (talk) 08:44, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi John. Not convinced that the Mail is, at least in this case, a tabloid; obviously it's the same physical size as ever, but the article looks well sourced to me. It doesn't look to be any worse than a local paper, The Argus, which presumably wouldn't be classified as a tabloid in terms of journalism. I've used the latter in place of your ref as it mentions Bebo. Bromley86 (talk) 11:24, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

Multiple discussions at the noticeboards have confirmed that for our purposes the Mail is a tabloid and cannot be used to source anything remotely controversial on a BLP. Thanks for adding a better source. --John (talk) 11:59, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

1860 massacres

I wonder why you are attached to the idea the "the Druze killed 10,000 Christians" during this horrible violence. There were also Druze killed; numbers are approximate on both sides; admittedly more Christians probably died, but why cite simplistic and almost certainly exaggerated numbers? I will amend the citation with a reference to a more recent and very accurate book, William Harris' Lebanon: History 600-2011. But I would be interested to know why you seem to feel strongly about the previous and seemingly less accurate version of events. (says Tobias Homer)

No attachment; I'm not too bothered who kills who now, so I really don't care about who did over 100 years ago. However you were using a cite that said A to support your statement B. I'm also slightly concerned that you're downplaying ("several thousand" instead of "about 10,000"). I've not looked into it, other than to quickly scan the wikilinked article on the 1860 conflict, but I think you're wrong if you believe "more Christians probably died"; vastly more Christians definitely died, according to the sources linked to date. Bromley86 (talk) 13:02, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

You are right about the relative numbers but the Maronites actually started the fight (by shooting a partridge on Druze land). That is how petty things get there (I have written 2 books about Lebanon btw). I don't think one wants to get down to the "who shot the first partridge" level; and "killed by Druzes" is pretty provocative given that it was a fight which the Christians lost. The Middle East does not have much pity on the losing side (have you seen the Assyrian "tree of heads" in the British Museum?) Maybe the problem is the sources linked are really shoddy. The CIA handbook! an old piece of c**p. I will try to find tome to improve on this. (says Tobias Homer)

Ah, I see; must be pretty frustrating for you to see poorly written/sourced stuff on something you've published on. On that subject, and bearing in mind I'm not the WP police, you might want to be careful with WP:COI (specifically WP:SELFCITE), especially when adding a certain book to Further Reading or External Link sections (which, depending on one's view, might fall under WP:SELFPROMOTE). Please don't let this stop you rewriting the various articles though, as they certainly need it.

BTW, I added the "Tobias Homer" so you'd get a notification. In case you didn't know, ending you posts with four tildes will mean WP places your name & a timestamp after your comments, like this (in my case): Bromley86 (talk) 18:15, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

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This is your only warning; if you violate Misplaced Pages's biographies of living persons policy by inserting unsourced or poorly sourced defamatory content into an article or any other Misplaced Pages page again, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. --John (talk) 13:42, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

Sweet! Bromley86 (talk) 14:30, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

Hey, after reverting an admin enforcing BLP you should be glad you can still edit. Seriously, don't do this again. --John (talk) 14:48, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

That'd make more sense if your name had flashing lights on it or something. I wouldn't know an admin if I tripped over one. Bromley86 (talk) 15:59, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

In that case I apologise. I thought you were aware from the talk page discussion (which you were a part of) that another user had asked me to intervene. It isn't smart to revert anyone, ever, who is editing using BLP as the reason. Anyway, I'm sorry if I handled that clumsily, I really thought you were aware. --John (talk) 17:13, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

Ah, I see. Apology accepted. I thought HBH was busing in a fellow believer for a discussion, not that they were appealing to a higher authority. Bromley86 (talk) 17:46, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

Daily Mail

Looks like you listened to my advice and took the smart move of posting in WP:RSN :) Mohamed CJ (talk) 11:30, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, been away for a bit. Thanks again! Bromley86 (talk) 23:22, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

infobox

As to the purpose of the infobox being to summarize what is in the text of the article, please see this. Tx. --Epeefleche (talk) 00:44, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

Lord Ahmed

How does it not read like a controversy. Nestle was brought to a hearing by the european parliament on marketing pratices, that pushed baby milk formula in Pakistan. The formula when combined with dirty drinking water led to the deaths of children in country.

Lord Ahmed took a paid position from Nestle, and went on a sponsored trip while lobbying for the company. Considering the amount of focus he keeps on Pakistani politics, this is pertinant information.

Plus, the hearing and its topics are in EU and UN records, the paid position and sponsored trip and the lobbying have all been documented.

I do not understand the objection? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tamaaz Khan (talk • contribs) 20:33, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

Have a look at the section I created for this on the article's Talk page. Bromley86 (talk) 20:55, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

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Redirects to Pearlasia Gamboa

Hi, I deleted all 13 redirects you tagged, but WP:CSD#G1 was not the right tag as they weren't "nonsense". It's hard to understand how a redirect that works could possibly be deletable by G1. WP:CSD#R3 would be reasonable if it weren't for the fact that they were not recently created. Because of the motivation of the redirect creator, I deleted them per WP:CSD#G3 (vandalism).--Bbb23 (talk) 15:44, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Bbb23 & sorry for getting it wrong. Is there a way of tagging multiple articles with a G3, or should I just add it to the other redirects? There aren't as many as I thought at first, but there's probably another 20 or so. Bromley86 (talk) 18:03, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

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Perhaps you could also offer a perspective on the summary of Pastoral care of homosexual persons, since a) your contributions would be helpful and b) Elizium appears to have lost interest? –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 18:07, 6 December 2014 (UTC)