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Sorry for not having sources

Sorry for my reccent on ebola that did not have any sources, but I fixed it now and it has the proper citations. I uploaded it to wikipedia again with the corrections. Thanks for helping me edit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.98.31.48 (talk) 21:22, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

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Page move

You have just moved a page to Charitable dispensaries in Manchester. That might be a bit unfortunate because they are rarely referred to as charitable dispensaries and in fact generally were subscription-based. Many became provident dispensaries and some, such as that at Ancoats, became hospitals. I've got a lot more to add to that and related articles but wonder if it might be best to stick to the original title. The period when these thing were formed is generally referred to as the "dispensary movement". - Sitush (talk) 14:43, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback. You're right, Charitable dispensaries in Manchester is wrong for this. I've renamed the article to Dispensary movement in Manchester, which I hope is clearer than "dispensaries in Manchester", which might be taken as referring to present-day hospital dispensaries. -- The Anome (talk) 13:36, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Yup, that makes sense. Thanks. I'll try to catch up with the writing soon - I've become a bit burned out (singed?) with events elsewhere. - Sitush (talk) 16:39, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

"FOO First Nation" item should not have "coord missing" added

I just reversed the addition of coord-missing to "Saddle Lake Cree Nation", which is not a place, it is a government. Individual reserves and communities of this government will have coords, but putting coords on government pages is not wanted or needed. I don't know how many such items you've added this to, if you did it on a global setting across certain categories, please reverse it so I and other's don't have to manually.Skookum1 (talk) 01:59, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi -- thanks for spotting that and fixing it. The bot uses a variety of filters that inspect article content and categories to try to stop errors like this from happening: I'll take a look to see how this one slipped through. -- The Anome (talk) 09:21, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

OK, I've found why the bot tagged the article as a place: it was categorized as if it as was an article about a specific community, with no category that was sufficient to tell the bot that it was about a First Nation people, not a specific place. I've changed the category to reflect the fact that this is an article about a people, not a place. -- The Anome (talk) 09:27, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

This is a belated reply a year later, as I had not had your talkpage watchlisted...and I had various crises going on in real life last August, come to think of it.... one of the issues here is that a large number of FN/NA articles on bands are often written and categorized as though the governments are the same things as t he places; that's mostly been resolved in BC and NS and certain other provinces, and slow progress is being made in the Prairies and Ontario etc...what I've been doing is making any reserve redirects carry the geographic-type Indian reserves category, and taking them off government pages at the same time; many bands have more than one reserve, often discontiguous and widely spread here and there around the landscape....it would be possible to give coords for the bands' offices but that would take some OR, and generally addresses are removed from articles as "not a directory" and it would be OR/SYNTH to determine the latlongs by the street addresses; many are also PO boxes in towns distant from the reserve communities....Skookum1 (talk) 02:22, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Images missing by place

Hi,

It strikes me that we could reuse the logic you used in applying {{Coord missing}}, and add articles with coordinates, but no image, to a series of Category: Articles without images in . People visiting or living in a county or city could then look at the local category to see what images are needed nearby. Someone could write an app for mobile users to do the same, based no the coordinates themselves and Misplaced Pages's "nearby" function. Would you be interested in that? I'll assist with grunt work. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:23, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I would. The coord tagging has got a bit dull lately as the bot is running out of low-hanging fruit to tag, and I'm looking for more challenges. Certainly, almost anywhere coord-worthy is also image-worthy, with some obvious exceptions (historical events, subterranean geological features and crash sites come to mind, for example. Rather than create a new in-article template, I think we should use the existing {{image requested}} mechanism on talk pages to do this. There's a fair bit of infrastructure to create to make this happen: I will need to create:

• a classification of which types of articles are clearly image-worthy, using a whitelist, as opposed to a blacklist, approach
• a reliable way of detecting pages that are missing pictures (as opposed to maps, or icons such as flagicons or stub notice icons)
• a way of detecting the correct place to put an {{image requested}} tag on a talk page
• a way of working out what "in" parameter I should be using in the tag to bring it to the attention of relevant WikiProjects

There are also other projects we can liase with, to make it, for example, easier for volunteers to find nearby sites to photograph or hunt down public domain images.

I'll think about this some more, then get back to you.

-- The Anome (talk) 14:38, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

OK, that all sounds good. Please ping me when you're ready to move. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:39, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

Stalking you ;-) I saw User:The Anome/types of features eligible for photographs. How can I help? Why wouldn't it be easier to come up with a list of "things with coordinates not eligible for photographs"? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 00:20, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

Given the number of articles that are eligible for images, I'd much rather take the cautious approach than be on the receiving end of hundreds of complaints for mis-tagging. Hence the use of a large whitelist of known good features, instead of a blacklist.

For an example of other kinds of things that need to be taken into account, see the Edray, West Virginia article that I found at random by clicking "random article" a few times until I found an eligible article. By looking at the output of http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Edray,_West_Virginia&action=render , you can see that it contains four images: two maps, a flag, and a dot. We need to be able to ascertain that none of these is a photograph before we decide to request one for the article. Now, we can try to do this by a number of different methods: analyzing the wikitext and template parameters, analyzing the HTML, looking at categories, looking at filenames, or by looking at the images themselves. In this case, for example, file analysis would show that two of the images are too small to be photos, and the other two are low-colour PNG images. However, just looking at the filenames of all four images in this particular would show them to be derived from original SVG images, making it unnecessary to look at the images at all. But that might not be true of other images; for example, some article might have a full colour image saved as a PNG or a GIF, and the only way to detect that would be to analyze its colour histogram. Or another article might use an image that is a full-colour JPEG photograph, but only use it as a tiny icon. Or an SVG might embed a bitmap image of a photograph. And so on... -- The Anome (talk) 10:49, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

After some more thought, I think I can work my way through much of this entirely from dumps, by combining information from the template links, image links, external links and category links tables to generate a shortlist of pages for more detailed inspection. Once that's done, I can then work on devising a set of more detailed checks to be performed on-line before making the final decision of whether to add a photo request template, what the content of that template should be, and where on the talk page to insert it. -- The Anome (talk) 12:25, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

Typically, an {{image requested}} would go just below the WikiProject banners, but outside the {{WPB}}{{WPBS}}, if present. Some banners provide parameters for the same purpose; for example, {{WikiProject Trains}} has |imageneeded= and |Imagedetails=, as seen at Talk:Brookfield (Cumbria) railway station. --Redrose64 (talk) 13:57, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

Yes. I think the best way to do this is to add {{image requested}} tags to articles first, then, with that work done, optimize later by adding project-specific parameters to WikiProject templates. Finding out what is and isn't a WikiProject banner, and dealing with the various grouping templates, is a subproject in itself.-- The Anome (talk) 17:10, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

Further to my comment above: I've remembered that there are some WikiProject banners where there is a |photo= parameter which doesn't work as you might expect (yes doesn't mean "yes, an image is needed"). See for example {{WikiProject Derbyshire}} where we find that this parameter may be set to |photo=yes if at least one photograph is included in this article; set |photo=na if this article does not require a photograph; set |photo=needs if this article needs at least one photograph to be added. --Redrose64 (talk) 16:29, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Fair enough; is it OK to edit your whitelist, or would your prefer suggestions elsewhere? Or should I go away and stop bugging you? ;-) Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:26, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

No, all suggestions are welcome! I've created a "put suggestions here" subheading on that page to put them under. Entries should be in the same format as the existing entries: words or phrases, exactly as used in existing article categories (and therefore typically plural), all lowercased, and with spaces replaced by underscores. -- The Anome (talk) 17:04, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank you - added some, more later. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:49, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

@Lydia Pintscher (WMDE): made a suggestion:

You could check Wikidata for items that have a geocoordinate but no picture associated with them and generate your list. Then encourage building more templates that automatically use the picture if set. See http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.de/2013/08/the-occitan-wikipedia-and-wikidata.html for example.

-- Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:23, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I've removed football clubs and organizations from your list: they are sufficiently blurry entities that they do not always have something that can be photographed. When they have identifiable headquarters buildings or home stadiums, with their own articles, those can have photographs added. I'm aware this will lose some opportunities to add photos: but I'm happier with having some false negatives, in order to prevent false positives which might cause more harm than good. You other suggestions are great, though -- please keep them coming. -- The Anome (talk) 13:24, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

I've also removed "schlosses" from the list. "Schloss" is just the German word for "castle/palace", and these are all, as far as I can see, listed under existing "castle/palace" categories such as Category:Castles in Germany. Category:Palaces in Germany. Category:Castles in Austria and Category:Palaces in Austria. -- The Anome (talk) 14:26, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

I see you points - sometimes reluctantly - with all those except football clubs, since they all have a strip which can be photographed; as can the games they play, and usually their home grounds. I can't see a false positive in such cases, let alone a harmful one. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:54, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

I take your point. You're quite right: there are categories of things which are photographable, but not geocodeable, and things like chain restuarants (for which a photo of a typical storefront might be appropriate) and football clubs might be among them. Let me think about it some more. -- The Anome (talk) 14:57, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Football teams (generally) are geo-locatable; I added coordinates to Old Oscott FC yesterday. But if we're tagging things with coordinates only, that's not an issue, surely? Or were you thinking of tagging things with "needing photo and needing coordinates"? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:35, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

I'm thinking of things that need photos but cannot be assigned coordinates. For example, a photo of the outside of a Pizza Hut branch would be quite appropriate for the Pizza Hut article, even though it's impossible to assign a single location to that organization; any reasonably typical example of their many branches would do. -- The Anome (talk) 18:06, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Shops

Perhaps we need to revise our categories, and split those for "shopping chains" and "shop premises", or some such? Then again, if the article has coordinates, is it likely to be a chain?Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:41, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Ideally, yes. Unfortunately, no-one has cared to make the distinction sufficiently often enough, and I've had real trouble creating sufficiently accurate heuristics to tell the two apart by inspecting other categories. So I'm going to err on the side of caution for these for now. We can always re-visit these later, if needed.

Also, thanks for spotting "cultural_sites". This has led me to find "historic_sites" as another marker of geocodable articles, and I've also back-ported this into the main bot to find new candidates for {{coord missing}}. -- The Anome (talk) 14:49, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Well, I tried :-( Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 23:45, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Progress

I now have a list of 1,004,783 articles which (a) contain valid {{coord}} or {{coord missing}} tags, directly or indirectly, and (b) do not have names that imply they are list articles. The next step is to use the category list to filter out types of articles for which there is nothing relevant to photograph (historical events, defunct buildings, electoral districts, etc. etc.). Then after that I can start working on how to automatically, and reliably, tell the difference between articles with and without pictures. More in a couple of days. -- The Anome (talk) 12:18, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

People can still add photographs of defunct buildings - they may be able to source them from their own or family archives, or talking to a GLAM, or searching the web for something freely licensed or out of copyright (e.g. St Alkmund's Church, Derby). Historic events might have a picture of the site, or a memorial, or a related object in a museum (a military uniform, say) or an artwork depicting the events (e.g. Peterloo Massacre). Electoral districts can benefit from a picture of a civic building, local view or even a polling station (e.g. Sutton Trinity (ward)). Thank you again for doing this. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:16, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I'm already thinking about it. See User:The Anome/geolocatable articles that are candidates for images, for some thoughts based on inspecting a random samples of 100 test pages, as well as some curious outliers found by bot-grepping the rendered HTML of some articles from a larger random sample of ~500 articles. -- The Anome (talk) 00:40, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

I doubt you meant to do this ;-) Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:23, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

No, I certainly didn't -- no idea how your comment got deleted, I didn't spot any edit conflict when I made my edit. I've restored it below: -- The Anome (talk) 06:43, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Progress indeed. I don't see why we'd exclude list articles - they can still benefit from having an image or two. Regarding 101 Collins Street, I think you can ignore any images which are in navbox templates. Per Radolfzell, you an ignore any image which is in an mbox. I'd include non-terrestrial objects, as NASA may well have PD images. Per my comments above, please do not have an exclusion date for disestablished venues. Apologies if I'm teaching you to suck eggs. If you need to run a trail on a geographic subset (and don't want to give away your location), please use West Midlands/ Warwickshire/ Staffordshire/ Worcestershire/ Shropshire, as that's my locality. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:52, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. You're exactly right about the navbox images, and I've taken that on board. I'm still thinking about your other two points as part of investigating the other special cases. -- The Anome (talk) 09:45, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

More progress

I've now got a basic article-inspector working. Using some fairly cautious rules, I'm currently finding about 50% -- around 500,000 -- of the articles on my first list appear to lack photographs. There are still a quite a few false negatives, but I haven't yet come across any false positives so far. -- The Anome (talk) 00:45, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

After filtering down to only articles with a clearly identifiable country associated with them by Misplaced Pages category analysis so that they can each be unambiguously assigned to a Wikiproject, I'm now down to around 860k articles in my shortlist. I've also tweaked the article scanner a bit more, to be a bit more lenient in some cases where evidence from several different image tag parameters can be combined to rule out an image being a photo. Running the article scanner on a sample of those again suggests that roughly half -- about 430k -- articles are candidiates for photo requests. -- The Anome (talk) 12:49, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

More progress: most of the false positives are being generated by a few special cases, principally:

• images in navboxes -- solution: remove these entirely at the HTML parsing phase  Done
• tweak the logic for detecting stub icons to be a little bit more forgiving for some cases. Done
• images like flags, locator maps and coats of arms in infoboxes -- solution: itemizing the commonest infobox/parameter combinations which generate these, find these by parsing the wikitext, and remove the generated images from the list of images in the page before doing the rest of the analysis  Done
• remove PNG/GIF images within collapsed boxes -- under consideration

-- The Anome (talk) 19:21, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

The hit rate for finding articles which are eligible for images is now around 60% with the new tweaks, up from 50% before. I have yet to see any false positives. This gives 860k x 60% = approx 510k articles eligible to be tagged, and thus slightly more than offsets the filtering by country assignment. I'm sure there are still some false negatives, but we are probably near the point of diminishing returns in terms what can be done without starting doing image processing analysis on included images.

Next step: more hand checking for false positives, and any remaining low-hanging fruit on false negatives. -- The Anome (talk) 20:31, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

The HTML and wikitext analysis stuff is now finished: the only remaining errors I can find so far from reviewing its results are a few remaining false negatives caused by diagrams and maps included as images that would require image content analysis to distinguish from photographs, something which at the moment just isn't worth developing and debugging to get a couple percent higher hit rate. Enough information will be present in the bot's logs to revisit these pages later, if so desired. -- The Anome (talk) 14:04, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

This all sounds good - so what next? Apply for permission? Create some categories? Write some documentation? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:42, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

I'm now working on the final code to filter the articles by type -- building, populated place, etc. -- and to then find the right place in the talk page to add the {{reqphoto}} tag. Then it will be time to request permission from the bot managers to do a test run of say, 100 articles to start with: then 1000, then 10,000, then finally the whole 500,000. I don't plan to integrate the tagging into the parameters of project infoboxes just yet: I see that, and the subcategorization of place tags into subnational entities, as being a job for another bot pass later on. -- The Anome (talk) 21:05, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

This is continuing. Converting the various other categories into reqphoto categories alas requires manual construction of a mapping between the two. -- The Anome (talk) 12:56, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

How're things going? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:51, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

*ahem* ;-) Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:59, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Any chance of an update, please? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:47, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Maintenance template dating issue

Please see this; my error, compounded by your bot. Is that something you can check for? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:51, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Invitation to WikiProject Invention

Hello, The Anome. You are invited to join WikiProject Invention, a WikiProject and resource dedicated to improving Misplaced Pages's coverage of inventions and invention-related topics. To join the project, just add your name to the member list. Northamerica1000 09:24, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Barnstar!

		What a Brilliant Idea Barnstar
		Don't know what prompted the creation of Catacomb saints, but what a great idea! I'll see what I can add to it - I seem to recall a particularly good story about such a "relic" being toured through nothern France during the 30 Years' War to boost morale among Catholic troops. Anyway, keep up the good work! Stalwart111 11:53, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Ha ha, mutual barnstars! Thanks! I thought it might make for a good DYK candidate but couldn't think of a hook. Thoughts? Stalwart111 13:39, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

I've acknowledged it needs a better hook but I've nominated it at Template:Did you know nominations/Catacomb saints anyway. Stalwart111 06:56, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

Excellent. -- The Anome (talk) 08:29, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

re: Is there a scientific definition of "shake well"?

I was wasn't as careful about the way I phrased that sentence as I thought. So on second reading I did modify it here specifying shaking " ...the container". I was trying to avoid this. Tsk Tsk! - 220 of 16:50, 13 September 2013 (UTC).

DYK for Catacomb saints

On 15 September 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Catacomb saints, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that 17th-century churches in Germany, Austria and Switzerland spent significant amounts of money decorating the corpses of unknown Christians so that they could be worshipped as saints? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Catacomb saints. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 08:03, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

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Precious

missing coordinates and images
Thank you,second-wave Wikipedian, for quality articles such as Catacomb saints, for knowing how little we know on nouns and villages in Afghanistan, for "looking" for missing coordinates and images, for "I take your point. You're quite right", - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:10, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Thank you! -- The Anome (talk) 09:14, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

A year ago, you were the 606th recipient of my 'PumpkinSky Prize, repeated in br'erly style, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:00, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

A question about Amplituhedron

Hey bro. If you have any interest in the matter or know any Wikipedian who could help out, a question about Amplituhedron here (http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Physics#Amplituhedron.2C_Scattering_amplitude.2C_Scattering_patterns).

Thanks - 186.221.170.80 (talk) 20:31, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

India coords

Hi. I know it's been a long time, but I thought I'd mention it in case it might be a bigger problem...

With this edit, The Anomebot2 added coords to Bilaspur district, Himachal Pradesh. Unfortunately, there is also a Bilaspur district, Chhattisgarh and it is the co-ordinates for that district that were added instead. I don't know what the source data looked like, but if it did not include the adm1 division in which an adm2 is supposed to lie, it would be good to look for possible dups like this. There is at least one more such duplicate district (Hamirpur district), but it did not get the wrong coords (diff times, sources, etc. though). Anyway, FYI. —— 01:00, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. This shouldn't happen: I'll take a look at the data and see if there's a way that this particular case could have been detected and prevented. Of course, if the source data is wrong, the GIGO principle applies and all bets are off. -- The Anome (talk) 14:32, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

AfD closure

Regarding this - AfD closure templates are, in fact, subst'd; your un-subst-ing it broke the page in a way that meant the system thought it was a still-active AfD. I've reclosed it, but please bear that in mind in the future, thanks. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 10:55, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

Regarding the article Sexual desire

Hello, i was reading the article Sexual desire of which you are a contributor,Sir..Under the para PHYSICAL FACTORS AFFECTING SEXUAL DESIRE i was expecting the find something about the 'time that has passed from the previous ejaculation in men'(being the reason that during the short term abstinence in sexually active men, they feel a high urge to indulge in sexual activities) affects their sexual desire..but there is no mention of the specific thing in the article..i have been anxious about this as i have to continue my research project on libido.. Sir, can you please help me find out the reason for why could i not find this fact here..many thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ed beerman (talk • contribs) 08:28, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

It's a very good question, but one I'm not qualified to answer. Have you considered asking on the Misplaced Pages:Reference desk/Science? The editors there may be able to help you better than I can. -- The Anome (talk) 10:57, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

ANI

Could you tack a {{resolved}} or whatever it is to WP:ANI#Disruptive IP range please? Chris is trying to start shit up with me again.—Ryulong (琉竜) 18:24, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for unblocking the range while this gets sorted out. I think the editor is well-meaning, but unaware of the situation. Also, I am not "trying to start shit up" as Ryulong claims, but he did make a report that the editor was a vandal and no action was taken, and that was only yesterday. I'm not sure what the issue is but the editor from the Philippines doesn't seem to be bad faith and the edits throughout the history seem to be correct, locally speaking - because they are not released in North America. Dare I say it... but throughout the history I see lots of useful information being removed and it is more than just the names. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 20:46, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

I never said that they were being done in bad faith. The only thing this editor has done is change spellings and add the word "the" before every single robot's name. I have made multiple requests for him to stop changing the spellings and stop adding the word "the" before every robot's name but he never responds because he just switches IPs again. I thought that maybe I could get another respite but no. Now I have to deal with this shit again today. And you know you are trying to start shit up, Chris, because now I can't do anything on WP:ANI without you chiming in against me.—Ryulong (琉竜) 00:48, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

You need to stop being dramatic, Ryulong. I mentioned your interaction with the user at User_talk:Ryulong#Rollback_and_BITE at 23:42, 26 October 2013. You made the ANI report at 09:33, 27 October 2013. My concern about your AIV post with the editor preceded your ANI report. It appears that because your AIV did not lead to a block so you made one at ANI. I'm not "starting shit", but I believe it is reasonable to be concerned and detail what I stated at your talk page. Let's not forget that some usage of English is also different for special cases the usage is more or less correct depending the reading. As the use of definite article or its omission is inconsistent, but if it is such a problem, you know where requests for page protection is. It will at least require registration and likely a clear direction to talk pages if they lack competence. There are better ways to go about what you did without resorting to labeling their edits as "vandalism". Now I believe we have disturbed The Anome's talk page quite enough. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 01:46, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

The fact AIV did not lead to the block is irrelevant. I have been dealing with this problematic editor for longer than you and I have been in dispute, and the last time I went to request protection they put the page on pending revisions which honestly does jack shit other than prevent the edit from being made live, which isn't the problem here. Also, when dealing with proper nouns for which there are no other such entities, the definite article seems redundant.—Ryulong (琉竜) 02:39, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

As far as I can see, this is a content dispute with a side order of non-communication, and not a matter for AN/I. Both Ryulong and the IP editor appear to be acting in good faith in the belief that the edits they are making are improving the article, and both of them have some justification for their point of view, as the two issues here, Layda vs. Rayda, and definite article vs. no definite article, are arguable either way. I agree with the posters at AN/I who suggested the use of edit summaries and inline comments to try to establish communication with the other editor. Give it a try, and come back if there's no resolution after a month or so. -- The Anome (talk) 10:23, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

Last I checked, dealing with non-responsive editors was exactly a matter for WP:ANI.—Ryulong (琉竜) 15:06, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

User:70.186.222.63

Hi. Could you look at this case in WP:AN/I please? Thanks is advance, Raamin (talk) 03:58, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

I've blocked the IP for one month, and notified them of the AN/I discussion. By the way, I think I should mention that when you mention another user of WP:AN/I, you're supposed to notify them that you're doing so. It's easy to do: you can put {{subst:ANI-notice}} on their talk page to do so, and it will auto-expand into a message.-- The Anome (talk) 10:27, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

Signpost/Gattaca

Hi The Anome. I am Go Phightins!, and am currently writing a piece for The Signpost on the Rand Paul/Gattaca debacle, which I am sure you have heard about. In 2002, you created the page on Gattaca, so I thought I would offer you the chance to comment for the story ... any comment you'd like to make on either the article, the alleged plagiarism, or plagiarizing Misplaced Pages in general? Up to you - thanks! Go Phightins! 19:55, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

Oh, good grief. I hadn't heard about this until now. Thanks for letting me know. I'll go take a look. -- The Anome (talk) 20:01, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks; if you could let me know in the next few hours if you wish to comment, that would be terrific. Go Phightins! 23:09, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

Sorry -- I haven't really got anything to say on the subject. -- The Anome (talk) 20:15, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

OK, thanks anyway! Go Phightins! 03:22, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Good Humor
	For creating Gattaca yet not making a big deal of it. Bearian (talk) 16:42, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

coord-missing oddity

This edit flagged a North American organization for coordinates in Israel. DMacks (talk) 15:13, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

It's because the article was listed in Category:High schools in Israel, and the bot interpreted it as being just that, and thus a locatable place in Israel. -- The Anome (talk) 15:19, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

Ah, that makes sense actually. Thanks for the quick diagnosis! DMacks (talk) 16:19, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Memory erasure

The article Memory erasure has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Probably student essay that would require complete rewrite to be encyclopedic. One reference is link dead and the other two are primary sources. Most of the article is entirely unsupported by the references. Not even close to Misplaced Pages:MEDRS.

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Go for it. The topic deserves an article, but it's not this, which verges too near to being a medical article without sufficient rigor. There is certainly an article about memory erasure as a fictional trope to be had here, but otherwise, it needs rewriting from scratch to conform with WP:MEDRS, if it is to be taken seriously as a sci/med article. -- The Anome (talk) 23:46, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Coords not needed

Hi, this is a railway service, running along a route which is over fifty miles long. I don't think that coordinates are appropriate. --Redrose64 (talk) 17:36, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

N = 4 supersymmetric Yang–Mills theory

Hi anonymous, do you by any chance remember if the page 6D (2,0) superconformal theories existed when you inserted the link in the N = 4 supersymmetric Yang–Mills theory article (23 sept 2013)? I'm asking because I remember seeing a lot of links to missing articles lately (especially physics and mathematics) and I am curious whether a cleanup is going on or those pages never existed. Thanks for your help! talk Alma 11:15, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

As far as I recall, it didn't exist at the time I made that link. I've checked the revision history, and it never seems to have existed previously, either. Having said which, WP:REDLINKs are good: there's no reason why it should not be created, either now or in the future.-- The Anome (talk) 12:07, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Great, thanks! That settles it. Wish you merry holidays! Alma (talk) 12:44, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

BDSM History

The Anome - I have restored the historical information from the academic publication 'The History & Arts of the Dominatrix'. I have in addition added the original source material cited by its author, which is verifiable. You may be correct that the book may be self-published in its first edition form - I am unable to verify this either way, and the second edition is currently in press by University of Oxford Press. However certainly the author is a UCL academic on staff, and has published anonymously from what I can tell.

One of the problems specific to the BDSM page, is that due to the nature of the subject of BDSM, many BDSM titles are self-published: - Jay Wiseman's books (self-published under Greenery Press) - Lady Green / Janet Hardy (self-published with partner Jay Wiseman of Greenery Press) - Dr Gloria Brame's books are all self-published. (She has a PhD and is a qualified sexologist however) - Philip Miller & Molly Devon's book is self-published (under Mystic Rose Books) etc (I could list numerous titles, all the Lulu Books listed on the page, etc)

I have worked on Misplaced Pages's Dominatrix page for years, adding academic references from academic journals, from sociological papers, from new books as they've been published, including more recently Danielle Lindemann's book which was a sociological study book "Dominatrix: Gender, Eroticism and Control in the Dungeon".

I am open-minded to changes, to enhancing neutrality, promoting balance, etc on Misplaced Pages articles.

However I do not think the removal of helpful historical information, carefully cited with academic references which are independently verifiable, is appropriate. If there are amendments and edits to be made - I would expect those to be made in pieces as appropriate.

I hope that by adding the original source material references, this may have aided the solution. I can remove all reference to Nomis's book entirely, and leave only her original sources cited (and verifiable), however it would seem inappropriate to steal all her research for use on Misplaced Pages and not acknowledge her as having been the one who undertook all the hard work and research. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scholarlyfemme (talk • contribs) 00:49, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Scholarlyfemme — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scholarlyfemme (talk • contribs) 00:51, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Hello, and thanks for your comments. Yes, you are right in saying that many well-known BDSM sources are self-published. However, they are well-known sources that have been extensively cited by other writers. This book has as yet not become part of the body of well-known literature on the subject, and its very recent publication and the deliberate anonymity of its author do not help increase its credibility. In particular, the concept of the "seven realm arts", which I cannot find a reference for anywhere else in the literature, appears to be sufficiently novel that it looks likely to be covered by Misplaced Pages:No original research. Given this, I'd suggest that, for the moment, until the book becomes established as a cited source in the literature, citing the sources used by the book, rather than the book itself, is probably the best way to go.

I'm sorry if this sounds really negative, since the book sounds really promising, and I look forward to reading it when it becomes generally available. -- The Anome (talk) 09:57, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of List of muscles of the human body/version 2

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Nudge

You seem to have overlooked my request for an update, above. I understand that you're busy, but if you don't intend to continue the project, please let me know so I can ask for other assistance. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:02, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi -- sorry about that -- I will get back to that project soon, and will message you when that happens. Happy new year, -- The Anome (talk) 15:25, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Mildred Roper

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Non notable fictional character. No evidence of in depth coverage in independent reliable sources.

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Derg

I've reverted Anomebot2's edit to Derg. It was a government, not a place. That said, I'm not sure the article belongs in the Former countries in Africa, States and territories established in 1974, or States and territories disestablished in 1987 categories (which may be how the 'bot found it). -- Gyrofrog (talk) 01:00, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

You are quite correct: yes, that's how the bot found it, and no, governments shouldn't get that tag, only the geographic entities ruled by those governments. I've been reviewing the bot's edits and fixing these by hand where I see them (see my edit history for some examples), but I missed this one, for which apologies. -- The Anome (talk) 01:03, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

The categories seem embedded within {{Infobox former country}}, FWIW. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 01:33, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

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Invitation

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Geo-coordinates of Pavillon de Paris

Hi! Really glad someone finally mapped the location of the old Pavillon de Paris. Can I ask how you know the correct location? There is a sentence in the article that says, "In 1980, the Pavillon de Paris was closed, and for the next 3 years, most touring rock bands appeared at the Hippodrome de Pantin in the nearby Parc de la Villette. In 1983, the Hippodrome was itself replaced by Le Zénith de Paris." This suggests that Le Zénith and the Hippodrome are/were at the same location, whereas the Pavillon, though nearby, was somewhere else. Yet your provided coordinates located the Pavillon very proximate to the Zénith. Is that because the Pavillon site was adjacent to the Zénith/Hippodrome site, or are you suggesting that the Pavillon site is the current site of the Zénith, and that the Hippodrome was somewhere else nearby? Would love to hear all you know on this topic! Thnaks again!

User talk:Jayintheusa —Preceding undated comment added 22:03, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi. I'm afraid I don't know where the coordinates came from in detail, but I can tell you how to find the user who does. My bot copied the coordinates from the German-language Misplaced Pages. This is documented in the body of the tag as "source:kolossus-dewiki", where "Kolossus" is a (misspelled) reference to de:Benutzer:Kolossos, a user who compiles coordinates from Misplaced Pages dumps into a database which can be found here, and "dewiki" is the German-language Misplaced Pages. However, if you look at the edit hostory of the German-language article de:Pavillon de Paris, you should be able to find the edit, and hence the user, that added the coordinates there. -- The Anome (talk) 22:18, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Wow! Thank you for your fast and detailed response! I'll take a look, as you suggest! Thanks again!

User talk:Jayintheusa —Preceding undated comment added 22:03, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

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A bot proposal of yours at Wikivoyage

Hi. I don't know whether you are keeping an eye on things at Wikivoyage. In case you aren't, just letting you know that I have supported your Wikivoyage:Script nominations#Using the bot to help crowdsource links to Misplaced Pages articles proposal and posed a couple of questions there. cheers. Nurg (talk) 08:19, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

Not in Front of the Children

This book was previously mentioned at your user talk page, by RekishiEJ.

I've gone ahead and created the article, at Not in Front of the Children: "Indecency," Censorship, and the Innocence of Youth.

It's still very much a work in progress, as I'm quite in the middle of ongoing research for additional secondary sources.

Cheers,

— Cirt (talk) 01:17, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

Missing photos by coordinates

Please see Misplaced Pages:BOTREQ#Needed photos bot. I've referred there, to our discussions above. What news? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:43, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi: the project's on hold while I'm working on other things, and puzzling out how to reliably edit talk page headers to add the {{reqphoto}} tags without corrupting the rest of the talk page header. I will get back to it eventually. -- The Anome (talk) 11:11, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the update. Meanwhile User:Magnus Manske is working on something similar for Wikidata; here's the map for Sweden: http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/missing_images.html?region=Q34 Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:09, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Coordinates of paintings

As you are doubtless aware, these are almost always unnecessary (museums' coordinates are given in the articles on the museums). I don't know why The Anomebot2 is picking up articles in Category:Collection of the Tate galleries to add {{coord missing}} to, but you may want to instruct it to ignore that particular category. Deor (talk) 15:19, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for spotting this. It's the comniation of the word "galleries" at the end of the category name, and that category's nested inclusion in other categories that refer to geolocatable things, that triggers this behavior, and then none of the usual heuristics catches the error. I'll add a couple of extra heuristics to catch this and similar cases. -- The Anome (talk) 11:08, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Nomination of CCTV (disambiguation) for deletion

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Blocking usernames listed in Misplaced Pages:Usernames for administrator attention/Bot

• What has to be done when blocking a username listed in Misplaced Pages:Usernames for administrator attention/Bot? Is any admin allowed to do it, or only a specified set of admins? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 08:36, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Any admin can do it -- and we could do with some extra help. There are a few templates specifically created for substing to inform blocked users: see {{usernameblock}}, {{usernamehardblocked}}, {{softerblock}} and {{vaublock}} for the most commonly used. Also, if a name is clearly a false positive and thus not going to be a problem, you can just remove it from the list without any need to discuss it with other users. -- The Anome (talk) 22:36, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

• Thanks. But please, what is the correct procedure and what do I put or do where, e.g. if I come across a new username, say User:Zxcvbnmbot ? User:DeltaQuadBot would pick up the "-bot" suffix and complain, but what should I do then? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 23:18, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Bit rot (disambiguation)

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Bit rot/data decay/data degredation/etc.

Did you seek consensus somewhere before making these page moves? I think they were rather ill-advised and should be reverted, but the whole situation is a complex can of worms, and I don't trust my opinion to reflect that of any consensus. But there should have been discussion before the moves. I can't find it. What happened? jhawkinson (talk) 15:37, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

I think this is a case where the usage is so well established that the content of the articles was obviously wrong. So I decided to be WP:BOLD, and just clean up the whole thing. Feel free to revert my changes if you like, but I think the Jargon File is a more than adequate source for original, and still correct, usage. -- The Anome (talk) 20:05, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

2001:630:12:1072:0:0:0:0/64

I don't think this should remain blocked indefinitely, as I don't think a first-time offense is a valid reason for an indef block there.--Jasper Deng (talk) 04:41, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

You're right -- I've replaced the block with a one year block, and unblocked account creation from that range. -- The Anome (talk) 21:43, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

Sorry about that

... didn't even realize I had removed your comment, apologies. Lesion 21:34, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

User:Sturmgewehr88

How would you feel about unblocking this user and running a WP:RFCN instead? Yunshui 雲‍水 08:45, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for that; very gracious of you. Yunshui 雲‍水 11:47, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Second-wave Wikipedian?

We've been scratching our heads about this now for the last 5 minutes. What does this thing mean? Panyd 15:28, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Ah -- that's quite out of date now. "Second wave", in the sense of not being part of the "first wave" of Wikipedians who joined in the first few weeks. -- The Anome (talk) 12:05, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

File:TrafficRanktoJune2004.png needs authorship information

The media file you uploaded as File:TrafficRanktoJune2004.png appears to be missing information as to its authorship (and or source), or if you did provide such information, it is confusing for others trying to make use of the image.

It would be appreciated if you would consider updating the file description page, to make the authorship of the media clearer.

Although some images may not need author information in obvious cases, (such where an applicable source is provided), authorship information aids users of the image, and helps ensure that appropriate credit is given (a requirement of some licenses).

• If you created this media yourself, please consider explicitly including your user name, for which: {{subst:usernameexpand|The Anome}} will produce an appropriate expansion,
  or use the {{own}} template.

• If this is an old image, for which the authorship is unknown or impossible to determine, please indicate this on the file description page.

 Done -- The Anome (talk) 14:19, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

History of measurement systems in India

You've edited this article. There's quite a bit here based on work by Shigeo Iwata. I'm concerned about using him as he also wrote in which says "Each of the several bone pieces of 28,000 years ago that were discovered in Shiyu site in China bears a number of lines. Each of these lines denoting a number suggests that the people used to record 20 or more numbers. The 22,430-year-old bone tubes excavated at the Zhoukoudian site in the southwest of Beijing bear symbols that have been deciphered as representing 3,5, 10, and 13. The shape of the symbol for 10 leads us to believe that its creators employed the decimal system. Presumably, the Mongoloid completed the decimal system 50,000 years ago when they branched into East Asia, both North and South America, and the Pacific islands. The Chinese people recorded numbers as large as 30,000 in the period 3.300 years ago." This bit about the decimal system is nonsense as is the bit about Mongoloides up to 70,000 years ago, which he also said. And so far I haven't found a source for his Chinese symbols, but that's a minor issue. Dougweller (talk) 19:22, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Bots can't spell

The Anomebot2 is adding the type "forrest" to some of the {{coord}} templates it's inserting in articles. Presumably, its brain needs tweaking somehow. Deor (talk) 10:36, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. It was copying that mistake verbatim from the eswiki entries it was using as source. When I ran a script to fix this, I found that you had fixed all of them already: thank you! -- The Anome (talk) 14:18, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

No problem. I just thought that it might be something in the bot itself rather than in what it was copying. Deor (talk) 14:35, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

OER inquiry

Hi The Anome, I'm sending you this message because you're one of about 300 users who have recently edited an article in the umbrella category of open educational resources (OER) (or open education). In evaluating several projects we've been working on (e.g. the WIKISOO course and WikiProject Open), my colleague Pete Forsyth and I have wondered who chooses to edit OER-related articles and why. Regardless of whether you've taken the WIKISOO course yourself - and/or never even heard the term OER before - we'd be extremely grateful for your participation in this brief, anonymous survey before 27 April. No personal data is being collected. If you have any ideas or questions, please get in touch. My talk page awaits. Thanks for your support! - Sara FB (talk) 20:50, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Edit filter 609

Thanks for your help with this. It looks like other IP ranges from Rio de Janeiro are also adding these Europa Universalis terms, another editor caught . Can you help edit the filter? Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 08:23, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

 Done. I've added the enclosing netblock 152.92.0.0/16, registered to the Universidade do Estado do Rio de Janeiro, to the filter. -- The Anome (talk) 08:46, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. Not surprised to find it's probably students. Dougweller (talk) 14:47, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Espainiako Erresuma listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Espainiako Erresuma. Since you had some involvement with the Espainiako Erresuma redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. TheChampionMan1234 07:22, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

Non-default beta

Our discussion got archived. What do you think about a watchlist notice? Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 05:37, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

I've replied to you on your talk page. -- The Anome (talk) 12:40, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

I think that rather than waiting for a formal list of what, exactly, to test, we should just ask people to give it a try. Do yout hink that this would work for a watchlist notice?

An appeal from the developers: we've been improving VisualEditor, and we're looking for volunteers to test it. You can opt-in to it via Beta Features

I've added a few links; would it be useful to add a link to Misplaced Pages:VisualEditor/User guide, or is it overkill? Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 17:09, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Geodata

Er, sorry about that, it didn't occur to remove the templates.Keith-264 (talk) 16:02, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

No problem! Yes, it's a good idea to remove the {{coord missing}} templates when you add coordinates, but it doesn't break anything if you don't: I do a bot run every few months to catch those that don't get removed by geocoders. Bot time is cheap; human effort geocoding things isn't. Thanks for your edits! -- The Anome (talk) 11:36, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

I had the idea of using the geodatas from articles on the place, since I couldn't work out how to do them. I was rather smug at the time.;O)Keith-264 (talk) 12:29, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

EuroFan98 has replaced the deleted content again

Hi there, I noticed you're the Wikipedian who recently dealt with EuroFan98 and the content the user has on their user page. I thought you'd might want to know s/he has reinstated the content to User:EuroFan98/sandbox, especially when it was established the material was not a draft article and went against WP:NOTWEBHOST. Wes Mᴥuse 21:28, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

Stop these things!

Wesley Mouse, a Sandbox is another user's work...it can't be seen by public or by other users. 23:35, 8 June 2014 (CET) — Preceding unsigned comment added by EuroFan98 (talk • contribs)

But it still is against WP:NOTWEBHOST purely for the fact that the content was removed from your main user page for being of content that is not permitted on Misplaced Pages. You were also told to place it elsewhere, but not on Misplaced Pages. You ignored what you were told. But if you wish to have the stupidity to risk receiving blocking sanctions for failing to comply with policies, then go ahead. I'm only offering you advice so that you don't get blocked. Wes Mᴥuse 21:47, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

Pius Ngandu Nkashama

Hi! It seems you recently created an unreferenced biography of a living person: Pius Ngandu Nkashama. The community has decided that all new biographies of living persons must contain a reliable source that supports at least one statement made about the person in the article as per our verifiability policy. Please add references as soon as possible. Thanks! --LaraBot (talk) 00:10, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

 Done -- The Anome (talk) 10:49, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Complaint moved

I've moved this complaint from WP:ANI to WP:BON. Issue should be discussed here. Thank you! OccultZone (Talk) 11:25, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Coord for festivals

Hi, I have spent most of today adding coordinates to various articles in Category:Lithuania articles missing geocoordinate data. Down to a trickle! But I am stumped by Kaunas International Film Festival and similar - it is an event/festival that takes places all over. How would you add coordinates to that? Renata (talk) 02:12, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Thank you! Regarding the festival; since it does not take place in a single geographical location, just delete the {{coord missing}} tag from the article, and you're done. The same applies to any other event with multiple locations. The bot does not have a 100% hit rate, and it occasionally makes both false positive and false negative errors. Please let me know if you find any more examples of bad tags, as this helps me add extra rules to the bot to reduce its error rate further. -- The Anome (talk) 10:05, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Cool, but a question: won't the bot add the missing coord tag on its next run? Renata (talk) 11:50, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

It shouldn't do that: it remembers which articles it has tagged, and (with a few special-case exceptions) won't re-tag them again in the normal course of editing -- The Anome (talk) 10:41, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Edit filter 609

Hi - hate to be a pain but could you add the IP range for 200.165.204.65, another Rio de Janeiro range? Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 13:14, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

 Done -- The Anome (talk) 12:29, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Belated thanks! Dougweller (talk) 10:56, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

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06:53, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of The Tridge (Ypsilanti, Michigan)

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A tag has been placed on The Tridge (Ypsilanti, Michigan) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Misplaced Pages. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about an organization or company, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

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Proposed deletion of The Tridge (Ypsilanti, Michigan)

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Nomination of The Tridge (Ypsilanti, Michigan) for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article The Tridge (Ypsilanti, Michigan) is suitable for inclusion in Misplaced Pages according to Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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DYK for Nokutela Dube

On 5 July 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Nokutela Dube, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that it is thought that South African activist Nokutela Dube (pictured) lost her marriage and her place in history because she could not have children? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Nokutela Dube. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 18:32, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-28

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Tech News updates

• We are looking for contributors to help write a new issue every week. If you would like to help, please contact us.

Recent software changes

• The latest version of MediaWiki (1.24wmf12) was added to test wikis and MediaWiki.org on July 3. It will be added to non-Misplaced Pages wikis on July 8, and to all Wikipedias on July 10 (calendar).
• CirrusSearch was enabled on July 1 as the primary search method on 36 new wikis, including the Norwegian (no), Portuguese (pt) and Ukrainian (uk) Wikipedias.
• It is now possible to create Atom or RSS feeds for Word of the Day, Word of the Week and similar entries on Wiktionary wikis.
• You can now use a graphical interface to edit TemplateData information on the English (en), French (fr) and Italian (it) Wikipedias.

VisualEditor news

• Saving an edit with VisualEditor will now be much faster.
• You can now add a caption when you add a file to a page with VisualEditor. You can also change the file to a different one and keep the existing caption.
• When you switch to the Edit source tab, you are now asked to keep your changes. You no longer need to find the option in the menus.
• The reference tool that adds empty <ref></ref> tags is now at the bottom of the Cite menu, below references that use templates like {{Cite web}}.
• Context menus will no longer be shown over items that you can edit directly, for example formulæ.

Future software changes

• Starting on July 9, it will be possible to globally rename global (SUL) users. The feature was first scheduled for July 1, but was delayed due to bugs.
• A plan to enable CirrusSearch as the primary search method on the 11 largest Wikimedia wikis has now been prepared.
• If you use references on a page, you will soon always see them at the bottom of the page, even if you forget to add the <references /> tag (or a template).
• Black-and-white XCF images will soon display correctly.
• Description pages of SVG files will soon always show download links for multiple resolutions (example). The links were previously shown only for SVG files in large original resolutions.

Problems

• Between July 2-3, there were problems with loading pages on multiple wikis due to a configuration issue.
• For a few hours on July 1, there were problems with uploading new files on Wikimedia Commons due to a configuration error.

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07:07, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Coordinates for Slut, Munsö

Hello, I noticed that the coordinates were wildly off. I guess the source, GNS-enwiki, need to be corrected too, where do I find it? --Ainali (talk) 11:53, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

Hi -- thanks for fixing that. The source "GNS-enwiki" indicates that it was generated one of my scripts which uses a combination of category tree traversal and heuristics to cross-correlate entries in the NGA GNS database with English-language Misplaced Pages articles. The most likely source of the error is either that the script has chosen the GNS entry for the wrong place, or that the GNS data itself is off. If it's the former, please accept my apologies: the matching algorithm has very few false positives, but there will always be the occasional error; when I find one or one is brought to my attention, I usually try, if possible, to find and fix the root cause of the problem, to prevent the same kind of error from happening again. If the NGA data is at fault, you can contact the NGA here: http://earth-info.nga.mil/gns/html/ -- The Anome (talk) 20:07, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

Update: NGA GNS has only one place in Sweden called Slut, with details as follows:

Slut   (Approved - N)
Sweden (SW)  
Västerbotten (SW23)  
64° 44' 00" N, 020° 31' 00" E (64.733333, 20.516667)  
34WDS7698178823  
populated place (PPL)  

My bot saw one and only one place in Sweden called Slut on both Misplaced Pages and NGA GNS, both of the same type, and none of the blocking heuristics for false matches applied in this case, so it assumed they were the same. A check for the top-level administrative division would have caught this, but doing that is a work in progress, due to the difficulty in doing this in general across both datasets, not just because of naming differences, but because the NGA data often does not specify a top-level administrative division for many features.

Fortunately this kind of false positive is quite rare. I have been looking into alternative ways of doing enclosing-entity cross-correlation for some time, with the hope of one day doing a cross-correlation of all the geodata in all Wikipedias via Wikidata. -- The Anome (talk) 12:28, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-29

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent software changes

• The latest version of MediaWiki (1.24wmf13) was added to test wikis and MediaWiki.org on July 10. It will be added to non-Misplaced Pages wikis on July 15, and to all Wikipedias on July 17 (calendar).
• It is now possible to globally rename global (SUL) users. Please go to the username changes page on Meta if you want to rename your account on all wikis.
• You can now read a summary of the Wikimedia technical report for June 2014.
• You can now read the latest issue of the Wikidata newsletter and translate it into your language.

VisualEditor news

• The tool to add templates and citations will now work for templates that include HTML comments or templates in their titles.
• The button to make images full size should now work correctly.
• References will now be shown in the default font size again.

Future software changes

• CirrusSearch will be enabled as the primary search method on the Dutch (nl) and Japanese (ja) Wikipedias on July 14, and on the Polish (pl) and Russian (ru) Wikipedias on July 16.
• The Special:Version page will soon show the exact version of MediaWiki and all extensions installed on your wiki (example).
• It will soon no longer be possible to order printed books of wiki articles via PediaPress. You will still be able to create PDF files.
• Pages that use {{DISPLAYTITLE:''title''}} more than once will soon show a warning. You can use {{DISPLAYTITLE:''title''|noerror}} to hide it.
• Pages that have the list of references added automatically will soon be added to a tracking category. Administrators will be able to configure the name of the category on their wikis.
• Administrators will soon be able to easily merge histories of two pages using Special:MergeHistory.
• Administrators will soon see links to delete files on Special:ListFiles.

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07:49, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Watchlist notice idea

Do you still think this is a good thing to do?

An appeal from the developers: we've been improving VisualEditor, and we're looking for volunteers to test it. You can opt-in to it via Beta Features

Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 19:59, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

It's a great idea! Is there any reason not to go right ahead and make the change today? -- The Anome (talk) 00:34, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Let's do it. Thanks. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 16:24, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

I posted at request about this at MediaWiki talk:Watchlist-details#Request. There has been no response so far. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 22:18, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-30

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent software changes

• The latest version of MediaWiki (1.24wmf14) was added to test wikis and MediaWiki.org on July 17. It will be added to non-Misplaced Pages wikis on July 22, and to all Wikipedias on July 24 (calendar).
• CirrusSearch was removed as the primary search method from Wikimedia Commons and the Spanish (es) Misplaced Pages due to a high server load. The plan to enable it on the Dutch (nl), Japanese (ja), Polish (pl) and Russian (ru) Wikipedias was also postponed to a later date.
• The tool that stores information about languages (CLDR) was updated to its latest version. You can still help translate language names into your own language so they can be used in the sidebar and other places.
• Translation memory for newly translatable pages should now offer more suggestions.
• A tool to convert MediaWiki pages to LaTeX is now available on Tool Labs.

VisualEditor news

• Tablet users visiting the mobile version of Wikimedia wikis will be able to use a special version of VisualEditor starting on July 31. You can test the new tool by choosing the beta version of the mobile view in the Settings menu. Feedback is welcome.
• All windows in VisualEditor have now a new design. Main action buttons will always be located in the top bar and will use simple words rather than icons.
• You can now easily open links inside the link editor, for example to see their target.
• Several bugs related to the positioning of the cursor around some items (like images and references) were fixed last week.

Future software changes

• It will soon be possible to watch individual discussions in the Topic namespace rather than whole pages for talk pages using Flow.
• You can give comments about the new version of Winter, a proposal to have a fixed toolbar at the top of wiki pages.
• An IRC meeting to organize Pywikibot bugs will take place from July 24 to July 27 on the channel #pywikibot on freenode.
• A request for comments on how to improve MediaWiki API was re-started on MediaWiki.org. Your feedback is welcome.

Problems

• Mailing lists were broken for about 16 hours between July 14 and July 15 due to a server problem.

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07:42, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

User:Smellylegs

Thanks for catching this sockpuppet of User:Trueman31. His hobby is cutting and pasting my user page and talk page. –anemoneprojectors– 14:56, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-31

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent software changes

• The latest version of MediaWiki (1.24wmf15) was added to test wikis and MediaWiki.org on July 24. It will be added to non-Misplaced Pages wikis on July 29, and to all Wikipedias on July 31 (calendar).
• You can now download the latest version of the anti-vandalism tool Huggle.

VisualEditor news

• You can now create, edit, and view HTML comments in VisualEditor.
• The cancel button in VisualEditor toolbar has been removed. You can still use the Read tab and the Back button in your browser to cancel your edit.
• If you try to use a template which has no suggested or required parameters in TemplateData, you will now be asked to add the parameters.
• You will no longer be able to edit a page if you can't create it, for example on pages protected against recreation.

Future software changes

• You will soon be able to filter Meta-Wiki's user rights log by wiki and user.
• Wikidata will soon be able to store data about article status, for example "good article" or "featured article". If your wiki has highlighted content, please make sure it is on Wikidata's list.
• It will soon be possible to directly create empty pages, for example in the user namespace.

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08:09, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

Special:AbuseFilter/609

No hits since 28 May. Is it okay if we disable it? Thanks — MusikAnimal 16:00, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

No problem, as far as I'm concerned: you might also want to check in with User: Dougweller, who's been using it to track vandalism. -- The Anome (talk) 15:22, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

No hits but a number of successful attempts to add these videogame concepts. Mainly be one-off accounts (in one case choosing a name very similar to someone else busy editing). Two were IPs, 200.149.194.17 (talk · contribs) and 187.15.44.246 (talk · contribs). These were this month, as were most of the account edits. And I know the copyvio Esdaile stuff is sporadic. Is there a way so it doesn't just focus on IP ranges but on any editor? And if so, "oligarchic republic" should be added. Thanks. And thanks to

I didn't really want the filter to trigger on every single mention of any of those keywords/key phrases, unless you're happy to deal with a potentially huge amount of false positive matches. If you are, I can simply turn off the IP range filtering and rely just on the keywords, and I expect the filter will get a vast number of hits. If you want me to do this, just let me know. -- The Anome (talk) 16:23, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

A question: are these all edits happening within articles which have infoboxes that have the "government_type" parameter? If so, I could filter on that, which should greatly reduce the number of false positives. -- The Anome (talk) 16:26, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

The great majority are, yes. If the filter just looked at that and not whether they were IPs or not, it would help. The Esdaile copyvio stuff is a different issue though. I guess I'll just have to hope I have all the affected articles on my watchlist. Dougweller (talk) 13:00, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

Change made, and filter re-enabled. -- The Anome (talk) 18:09, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

Great, thanks. Dougweller (talk) 18:36, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

It's not working - it's catching stuff it shouldn't catch. Dougweller (talk) 18:46, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

That was my worry. I've now disabled it. This filter really can't be useful unless we can create a narrower set of rules that match the behavior you wish to stop with a very low false positive rate. -- The Anome (talk) 18:49, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

Not sure I understand. It's just a set of 2 word phrases, I don't know why it was catching other things. Shall I give you the phrases again? Dougweller (talk) 12:59, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-32

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Tech News updates

• Tech News will be presented at the Wikimania 2014 conference in London! If you will be attending the conference, please join us in Auditorium 2 at 14:30 local time on Sunday, August 10.

Recent software changes

• The latest version of MediaWiki (1.24wmf16) was added to test wikis and MediaWiki.org on July 31. Due to the Wikimania 2014 conference, it will be added to non-Misplaced Pages wikis on August 12, and to all Wikipedias on August 14 (calendar).
• You can now test a new tool to render wiki pages as PDF files.
• You can now download an update to the archive of Wikimedia Commons files (uploaded up to December 31, 2013). If you have free space on your computer, please help preserve the files.
• New users using the mobile Commons site now need to make 75 edits before they can upload a file.

VisualEditor news

• You will no longer see an edit confirmation message after making a null edit with VisualEditor.
• VisualEditor will no longer change underscores to spaces in category sort keys.
• Many bugs that resulted in inserting the pawn and snowman symbols were fixed last week.
• Several bugs related to the use of references were also fixed.

Future software changes

• You will soon have a user option to watch pages where you revert edits.
• All Toolserver data will be deleted in September. If you want to back up your data, contact Toolserver administrators before August 31.
• Pages in the Translations: namespace on wikis using the Translate extension will no longer be indexed by search engines.

Problems

• Wikivoyage wikis were broken for about 45 minutes on July 29 due to a configuration problem.
• Some users were not able to log in on test wikis and MediaWiki.org between July 31 and August 1. The problem is now fixed.

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07:37, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

Victoria

https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Special:Log/delete&page=Category:Victoria_articles_missing_geocoordinate_data

Searching, there is no others category containing Victoria, the other states don't have Australia, none of the us states have USA or similar. Apart from the work involved in re-correcting 300+ entries for a missing coord category! is there a better reason we couldn't rename the Victoria (Australia) to plain Victoria ? --Dave Rave (talk) 09:06, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

ta, just looked at the 'new' page and went to the parent category, Category:Victoria (Australia), there's that Australia again, all the places in this category also have the Australia. How many states in the world are there ? Alberta Canada has a town ... Not agitating for change on this part, yet, looking for clues. --Dave Rave (talk) 20:59, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

also ref against Category:Victoria , does that count as a disam directive or is it only helpful in the context of the disam --Dave Rave (talk) 21:05, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

I think the disambiguation on the higher-level category is fine. There are lots of places called Victoria in the world, and the disambiguation is consistent with Misplaced Pages's normal category naming rules. I agree with you that it's not necessary in the case of the geographical coordinate tagging tracking category, but this is specifically because there is only one regional-level subdivision in the world called "Victoria", so there's no ambiguity in that particular context. -- The Anome (talk) 21:35, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-33

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent software changes

• Due to the Wikimania 2014 conference, there were no MediaWiki changes this week. The latest version of MediaWiki (1.24wmf16) will be added to non-Misplaced Pages wikis on August 12, and to all Wikipedias on August 14 (calendar).
• Bureaucrats on all Wikivoyage wikis are no longer able to merge two accounts into one.

VisualEditor news

• Tablet users visiting the mobile version of non-Misplaced Pages wikis will be able to use VisualEditor starting on August 12. The feature will also be enabled on all Wikipedias on August 14.

Future software changes

• Internet Explorer 6 users will soon see a JavaScript-free version of Wikimedia wikis; JavaScript tools and scripts will no longer work on that browser. If you use Internet Explorer 6, make sure to update to a newer browser!
• If you visit a special page that requires you to be logged-in, you will soon be automatically redirected to the log-in page instead of seeing a warning.
• You will now always see recent changes to the source language text when editing a translation with the Translate extension.
• An IRC meeting to discuss VisualEditor will take place on August 14 at 09:00 UTC on the channel #wikimedia-office on freenode (time conversion).

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07:43, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

Reversion on Prime Prep Academy

I have undone the change on the subject due to the fact that there are multiple locations for the school. Hasteur (talk) 13:22, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

is there a way to signal that coords aren't applicable?

This is a great bot, it often alerts me to missing coords in articles and then I go and add the coords.

But is there a way to tag an article to tell the bot "no, this one shouldn't have coordinates"? Obviously I can just remove the missing coord template, but I presume the bot will return at some later stage and re-instate it. The specific article of concern to me at the moment is Travelling post office, Queensland (which is a post office that travels by train so not exactly fixed infrastructure).

Thanks Kerry (talk) 22:00, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Hi, and thanks for the appreciation! To tell the bot the coordinates aren't needed, just remove the {{coord missing}} tag, and it shouldn't re-add it again, unless the article is renamed to a new title. Regards, -- The Anome (talk) 00:27, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

Too easy! Thanks Kerry (talk) 02:15, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

official coords available for BC RDs

Re this, I don't know where Wikidata gets its data from, but the official sources is readily available, perhaps parseable so can be automated; CGNDB is the other, with the same rounded DM vs DMS data, though lately BC Names has been refining many entries with DMS; where is Wikidata anyway? Another part of the wiki-verse? I see the term but...Skookum1 (talk) 02:16, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-34

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent software changes

• The latest version of MediaWiki (1.24wmf17) is on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since August 14. It will be on non-Misplaced Pages wikis on August 19, and on all Wikipedias on August 21 (calendar).
• There is a new protection level called superprotection. At the moment, only some Wikimedia Foundation employees have access to it. Administrators can't edit "superprotected" pages.
• You can now create empty pages directly. A message asks you to confirm that you want to create an empty page.
• You can search for Wikimedia tools using a new list of tools.
• You can watch the first videos from Wikimania 2014. Some of them are about technical topics. More videos will come later.

Wikidata

• After August 19, you can use Wikidata for inter language links on Wikinews.
• After August 19, you can use Wikidata for badges like "good" or "featured" articles. Next week, you will be able to show the badges in the article sidebar on Misplaced Pages, Wikisource and Wikiquote.

Problems

• There was an issue with ProofreadPage and WikiEditor on Wikisource wikis. It is now fixed.

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07:17, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-35

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

VisualEditor news

• There was a error when you put your cursor directly after a reference list. It is now fixed.
• You can now add colors to links in the editor using gadgets. You can do this to see links to redirects or disambiguation pages.
• If you use Internet Explorer, you will soon be able to use VisualEditor.

Future software changes

• The latest version of MediaWiki (1.24wmf18) is on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since August 21. It will be on non-Misplaced Pages wikis on August 26, and on all Wikipedias on August 28 (calendar).
• After August 26, you will have a central JavaScript and CSS page. They will be on Meta-Wiki and will work on all wikis. Read more on the help page.

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09:21, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Source of bad coords?

Where does Anomebot2 get the coordinates it adds to articles? Here it added coords to Novoazovsk that were off by 10 km. Abductive (reasoning) 14:45, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

Re: MediaWiki:Titleblacklist

Thanks, it suffices to ping me in one place. I watch discussions I participate in. Matma Rex talk 14:53, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

Crna Gora Republika, Serbia and Montenegro listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Crna Gora Republika, Serbia and Montenegro. Since you had some involvement with the Crna Gora Republika, Serbia and Montenegro redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. - TheChampionMan1234 02:11, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-36

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent software changes

• You can now test a new Beta Feature to see links to other wikis in the sidebar. The links come from Wikidata.
• You can now search pages that link to a page. Use the linksto: keyword in your search.
• A redirect to a section now changes the URL in the address bar of your browser. If "Dog" redirects to "Animals#Dog", you now see "Animals#Dog" instead of "Dog#Dog".
• If you are testing Flow, you now have a Flow tab in your Notifications. It is called "Messages".

VisualEditor news

• You can no longer delete required fields in templates.
• We fixed many Internet Explorer bugs. If you use Internet Explorer 11, you will get VisualEditor next week. Support for earlier versions is coming next.
• VisualEditor now looks better in Monobook.
• We fixed a bug where some of your typing could be undone when you used "cut" (Ctrl+X).
• You will no longer see empty or deleted categories among the suggestions when you add a category.

Future software changes

• The latest version of MediaWiki (1.24wmf19) is on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since August 28. It will be on non-Misplaced Pages wikis on September 2, and on all Wikipedias on September 4 (calendar).
• There is a proposal to build a database on Commons for file data. It will make it easier to see the author, license and topics. You can give feedback on this idea. You can also come to the IRC chat on September 3 at 18:00 (UTC) in #wikimedia-office at freenode.
• You can give feedback on Media Viewer until September 7. You can say what needs to be improved and ask other people to give feedback too.
• You can test a new version of the tool to show math. It uses MathML. Report bugs in bugzilla.
• You will no longer be able to upload images from the mobile site.

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07:49, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-37

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

VisualEditor news

• From Thursday, Internet Explorer 11 users will get VisualEditor. Support for earlier versions is coming next.

Future software changes

• The latest version of MediaWiki (1.24wmf20) is on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since September 4. It will be on non-Misplaced Pages wikis on September 9, and on all Wikipedias on September 11 (calendar).
• You will soon confirm a "Thanks" inline instead of in a dialog.
• You can read more about the plan to move to Phabricator, a tool that will help people develop the MediaWiki software and report bugs.

Problems

• There were problems with JavaScript and CSS on Friday, September 5 because of a code error.

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09:33, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

Nomination of Neda Soltani for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Neda Soltani is suitable for inclusion in Misplaced Pages according to Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Neda Soltani until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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Tech News: 2014-38

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent software changes

• You can now change the style of links to disambiguation pages. This is done with the mw-disambig CSS class.
• There was a problem on right-to-left wikis with Wikidata log entries. The text was messy in watchlists and recent changes. The problem is now fixed. The same problem will be fixed soon for user names.
• New users are randomly chosen for a test on 12 Wikipedias. They get messages with ideas of articles to edit. The ideas come from what they have already edited.

Problems

• There was a problem with loading images on September 10.

VisualEditor news

• If you don't select text when you add a link, the link now shows a number.
• The citation tool no longer offers to reuse a citation if there are none on the page yet.
• You can now use help buttons in the "Page settings" menu to see what the options are for.

Future software changes

• The latest version of MediaWiki (1.24wmf21) is on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since September 11. It will be on non-Misplaced Pages wikis on September 16, and on all Wikipedias on September 18 (calendar).
• These changes are coming with the new version:
  • If you use Internet Explorer 7, JavaScript will no longer work. JavaScript tools and scripts will no longer work in that browser. You should update to a newer browser.

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08:34, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

Strange addition of coordinates to Tyers Electric Train Tablet

Tyers Electric Train Tablet is a type of railway signalling apparatus. There were thousands of such instruments in use all over the former British Empire; so what was the inspiration for this edit? --Redrose64 (talk) 20:22, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Crazy metadata in https://www.wikidata.org/Q1325929 leading my bot to think this was a railway station (specifically, the fr:Gare de Charenton), and none of the heuristics built into the bot to stop it making silly edits catching the error. I've now fixed the metadata on Wikidata to split the railway station and the signalling system (now at https://www.wikidata.org/Q18066178) apart into two different data items. -- The Anome (talk) 09:43, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

Images missing by place, redux

Any chance you might revisit #Images missing by place, above? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:06, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

194.168.99.119

Hello The Anome, I saw your revision deletions on the Scottish referendum article. Shouldn't this text by 194.168.99.119 also be deleted?

<Note: text redacted by The Anome> Gerard von Hebel (talk) 13:13, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Yes, but it's a more complex issue that needs oversight attention. I suggest you contact the WP:OVERSIGHTers and ask them to handle this. -- The Anome (talk) 14:25, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

AN/ANI

Okay, I've had to oversight the revisions you rev-del'ed earlier today. I've also removed your sections on AN and ANI because we do not discuss things such as this on the noticeboards (see the big red boxes). To answer your general questions, you must revdel all revisions with the offending content, to do otherwise is less than worthless, as the revdel draws even more attention than just letting it lie where it was. Use the same reasons for the revdel of the revisions that contained the offending content as you do for the revision that added it. Second, if there is general doubt about the content and where the revdel/oversight line lies, please drop a note to the oversight team, not asking questions on AN or ANI. Courcelles 15:35, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know: I appreciate your help on this. -- The Anome (talk) 15:37, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-39

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent software changes

• You can test a new Beta Feature called HHVM. It should make editing faster. Please report bugs if you see them.

Problems

• There was a problem on the English Misplaced Pages on September 19. It was due to edits on a template used on many pages.
• Sites were down for users in the Pacific area around 7:00 UTC on September 20. It was due to a problem in the San Francisco data center.
• There were two bad bugs messing up articles in some browsers in VisualEditor. We fixed the bugs and updated the sites.

Software changes this week

• The new version of MediaWiki (1.24wmf22) is on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since September 18. It will be on non-Misplaced Pages wikis on September 23, and on all Wikipedias on September 25 (calendar).
• If you have more than 2000 notifications, the oldest ones will be removed.
• In the "Vector" skin, the icon used for users will show a neutral gender.
• The VisualEditor template tool now tells you if a required field is missing.
• The "Cancel" button of the VisualEditor save window is now called "Resume editing". This shows that you can still edit and you won't lose your changes.
• There are new keyboard shortcuts in VisualEditor. Use Ctrl+Shift+6 for code and Ctrl+Shift+5 for strikethrough.
• In VisualEditor, you can now see that you are switching to the source editing mode. Before, it was not clear it was happening.

Future site changes

• You can see a plan for the move to Phabricator. It's the new tool to track bugs. A guided tour will be done via video on September 24.

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09:05, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Not a great block

Anome, you blocked Ilikebigbutts@icannotlie for a username violation. The consensus on the UAA page was there was no issue with his user name. The only individual who had one (and screamed loud as hell about it ) was Hammersoft. This user has yet to edit, and has a handle that matches the lyrics of "Baby got back". They recieved no communication about that name, nor were they given the chance to change it first. I'd say that block isn't right. (In case your'e wondering, it's not me, and I don't know who it is either ). Would you consider reconsidering,or allowing them to change their name ? KoshVorlon Angeli i demoni kruzhyli nado mnoj 16:59, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

• Kosh, WP:UAA asks us to either report the username or discuss the issue with the user. I chose the former, as I find the name deeply objectionable. I did nothing wrong. I am not required, and even WP:UAA asks us not to, discuss the username with the user if it is seriously objectionable. Describing my debate regarding the user name as "scream loud as hell" is nothing short of a personal attack, and is compounded by the thread you posted on my talk page. I recommend you drop it; if the person wants to continue editing under that name they can request an unblock, directions for which are already on their talk page. --Hammersoft (talk) 17:47, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

• The block is a soft block, and doesn't prevent them from creating another account with a different name -- indeed, the block message contains an invitation to create another account, or to ask for their existing account to be renamed. The name is a blatant example of sexual objectification; if we allow names like this, we are implicitly creating an environment some people will find unfriendly, and it's not worth the hassle for other editors just to give one editor their way on choice of username. Usernames on Misplaced Pages are meant primarily to be identifiers, not a forum for unlimited personal self-expression, and just because something is a song lyric doesn't give it a free pass. -- The Anome (talk) 22:37, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

Wrong coordinates

THe coordinates are linked to the wrong webiste and location. How do I fix this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mwa101 (talk • contribs) 01:03, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

Hi -- can you be a bit more specific, please? Can you tell me which article in particular has this problem? -- The Anome (talk) 12:54, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-40

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent software changes

• On Commons, you can now see what files are most used across all wikis. You can also see the same list for deleted or uncreated files.
• There are now many more translations for language names.

Software changes this week

• The new version of MediaWiki (1.25wmf1) is on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since September 25. It will be on non-Misplaced Pages wikis on September 30, and on all Wikipedias on October 2 (calendar).
• Errors from Scribunto (Lua) are now shown on the page. Before, you had to click on "Script error" to see them.
• You can add an "autovalue" for a field in TemplateData. When users add the template to a page, the value will be added automatically. An example is when a clean-up template shows the date it was added.
• If you change a user preference but don't save it, it now asks if you want to save it.
• The PDF export tool has changed. The new one has better language support but it doesn't offer ZIM and EPUB formats.

Future changes

• You can watch a video showing Phabricator, the new tool to track bugs. You can also read more about the move from Bugzilla.
• JavaScript authors: Many old methods will be removed soon. Please check your scripts and gadgets and replace the old methods by the new ones if needed.

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09:44, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

Ebola Graphs

Hi The Anome,

I was very happy to find your graphs regarding Ebola growth for countries on linear and logarithmic scale. I soon entered the data in to a spreadsheet to have ad diagram with more, and more recent data available. The graph I made for the rates are therefore based on yours, because I find you presentation good, and also to prevent confusion.

Your last update is from September 14th. Do you plan to update the graphs, or shall I do this? I can easily upload graph with more recent data. Either in a new file, or by updating yours. What do you think about this?

As now the first patient is reported in the US, it will probably be required to add the US also. In the moment there are heavy discussions in the talk page, because US and Senegal are similar. Either they remove both countries, or add the US. I would present in the graphs only countries that are presented in the table below. Due to layout issues I would add the US probably only in the logarithmic rate graph. I would then change colouring, black for Total/World, dark blue for US. It would be good, if we keep the colours in the graph consistent. What do you think?

Kind Regards, Malanoqa --Malanoqa (talk) 06:14, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Hi Malanoqa, all of this sounds good to me. Your presentation of the data is a significant improvement on mine, and I would be most pleased if you could take over this work. Kind regards, -- The Anome (talk) 11:22, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Hi The Anome, so I keep the filename on Wikimedia, and update it with new more actual graphs? In that case all links on wikipedia articles would automatically point to the new versions. OK?

Kind regards, --Malanoqa (talk) 12:11, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Hi The Anome, I created a new file, due to legal rights, We will update the links in the referring articles manually. This is also more transparent. With kind regards --Malanoqa (talk) 21:38, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Anomebot2 indecisive?

In this edit, Anomebot2 added a {{coord missing}} template with scope “United States”. Less than an hour later, the bot updated the scope of its own template (here) to the state of Georgia. Five years passed, during which Anomebot2 was content to leave the article alone. But when I updated that template manually to focus it on the city of Atlanta (here), Anomebot2 changed its mind and deleted the template outright (here).

So at one point, the bot decided that an article needed coordinates which had not been provided, or even suggested, by any editor; but then at a later point, the bot decided to delete a more specific coordinate region which had been provided by an editor. Does this seem inconsistent?

Moreover, I cannot avoid the impression that Anomebot2 would have left the article alone had I not upgraded that template. I've invested some time in sorting a number of US {{coord missing}} articles into more specific geographic regions, and it is discouraging to think that a bot may delete any or all of that work for no stated reason.

Is there a pattern to this activity that isn't obvious, something that might make the Anomebot2 behavior more understandable, and hopefully more predictable?

 Unician ∇  09:48, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

I didn't spot them at first sight, either, and was initially as surprised as you, but after further inspection I can see that the bot removed the {{coord missing}} tag because the article now specifies several several coordinates within it: you can find them in the map within the infobox. -- The Anome (talk) 13:07, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Ah, thank you, that explains the bot's actions. As for that particular article, it's an unusual case because the subject is a narrow ring of trails around a city, punctuated by a few parks; the coordinates for the individual parks are included, but the entire project might be better described using an additional single large region centered on the city. But since the city is named and linked, and its article does include coordinates and scale of a region, I think I'll leave the article as the bot left it.  Unician ∇  02:30, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

This sort of article is ideal for either attached KML, or cross-referencing with an OpenStreetMap feature: WP:Wikiproject Roads have worked out a number of good ways to handle this sort of extended feature. -- The Anome (talk) 22:00, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-41

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• You can use the phab: and phabricator: interwikis to link to https://phabricator.wikimedia.org.
• Some wikis have a template to track bugs in Bugzilla. You should update it to work with Phabricator. You can look at the one on mediawiki.org to see how.
• You can look at Special:MediaStatistics to see what kind of files are on your wiki.
• A new tool can now create thumbnails of large TIFF images. This concerns files larger than 50 megapixels. These thumbnails are also sharpened. You can comment on Commons.
• The Media Viewer tool has a clearer link to the file page. It also has buttons to download, share and embed the file. You can enlarge images by clicking on them.

Changes this week

• The new version of MediaWiki (1.25wmf2) has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since 2 October. It will be on non-Misplaced Pages wikis from 7 October, and on all Wikipedias from 9 October (calendar).
• If you make a code mistake when editing a Lua script, you won't be able to save your edit.
• We fixed some more Internet Explorer bugs. If you use Internet Explorer 10, you will be able to use VisualEditor next week. Support for earlier versions is coming next.
• On Thursday, the tool to edit TemplateData will come to 30 more wikis.
• You can help sort bugs in the Book and PDF export tool on October 8.
• 1% of logged-out readers are getting pages from servers that run the HHVM tool. HHVM should make pages load faster.

Future changes

• You can look at the plan of the Mobile team for their future work.
• More changes to Media Viewer are coming. It will be easier to disable it, and you will see the caption below the image.

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06:10, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Patrick Sawyer

The difference between Sawyer and any other potentially scared EVD patient was that he was asked on several occasions, if he had ever been in contact with anyone infected but he continued denying all despite being on quarantine in Liberia. He wanted to even depart the hospital for Calabar, thank God for the heroics of Doctor Ameyo Adadevoh who risked her life to keep him in the medical facility. I understand that anyone will probably be having a cold feet in such situation, but no right thinking person should allow his/her death to be the cause of thousands of others. If I have EVD, I rather die alone (and go to Heaven) than take a risk that will certainly allow many other people die with me. I did not want to digress at the Afd that was why I did not leave my comment there.Darreg (talk) 21:56, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

One-cookie universe

Quick, eat it before it passes into my timecone:

Steelpillow has given you a cookie! Cookies promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. You can spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a cookie, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend.

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Tech News: 2014-42

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent software changes

• You can now log into Phabricator, the new tool to track bugs. Create your account and add your Bugzilla email address. We are copying the bugs from Bugzilla. Bugzilla is still open.
• You will now get the VisualEditor newsletter in your language if someone has translated it. You can add translations. You can know about the next translations by joining the translators list or asking Elitre (WMF).

Problems

• 10% of Tool Labs was down on October 7.
• Tool Labs was also broken on October 11.

Software changes this week

• The new version of MediaWiki (1.25wmf3) has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since 9 October. It will be on non-Misplaced Pages wikis from 14 October, and on all Wikipedias from 16 October (calendar).
• 5% of logged-out readers are getting pages from servers that run the HHVM tool. HHVM should make pages load faster. You can also test it as a Beta Feature.

Meetings

• You can join a meeting with Language developers on October 15, 2014 at 17:00 (UTC).
• There is a proposal to organize file pages better. It would use the same tools as Wikidata. You can join a meeting about it on October 16, 2014 at 18:00 (UTC).
• You can join a meeting about VisualEditor on October 18, 2014 at 18:00 (UTC).

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08:54, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

Hey

I'm just dropping by for feedback on the addiction, sexual addiction, drug addiction, etc articles. Is the distinction with what I was talking about on my talkpage earlier clear now? Seppi333 (Insert 2¢ | Maintained) 20:54, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

Hi there -- sorry not to have got back to you earlier: I will take a look at this tomorrow. -- The Anome (talk) 23:57, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-43

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. You can read translations.

Recent changes

• You can test a new system to see math using MathML. Go to your display options and choose "⧼mw math mathml⧽".
• You can add badges in Wikidata for quality articles and featured lists.

File information cleanup

• You can join a wiki project to help tools read file information. It will help people reuse files.
• See how to fix metadata. You can fix it by adding markers to templates and adding templates to files.
• You can see a list of files missing machine-readable information on your wiki.
• The files missing readable data are also in these categories: no license, no description, no author or no source.

Problems

• Developers fixed a security problem. If you use Internet Explorer 6, you won't be able to log in any more. You should use a newer browser.

Changes this week

• The new version of MediaWiki (1.25wmf4) has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since October 16. It will be on non-Misplaced Pages wikis from October 21, and on all Wikipedias from October 23 (calendar).
• 10% of logged-out readers are getting pages from servers that run the HHVM tool. HHVM should make pages load faster. You can also test it as a Beta Feature.
• If you add the same parameter twice in a template, it now puts the page in a tracking category.

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13:48, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-44

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

• There was an issue with files from Commons on October 21. You could only see those with names between 140 and 159 characters by visiting Commons itself.
• There was a problem with cut and paste in VisualEditor in Firefox. It was fixed quickly.
• There was a problem with editing math in VisualEditor. It was fixed quickly.

Software changes this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will now come to Misplaced Pages sites every Wednesday, instead of every Thursday.
• The new version of MediaWiki (1.25wmf5) has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since October 23. It will be on non-Misplaced Pages wikis from October 28, and on all Wikipedias from October 29 (calendar).
• VisualEditor now uses autovalues for templates if they are in TemplateData.
• VisualEditor's menu items now show their shortcuts beside them.
• VisualEditor now opens faster when you click "edit".
• The rules for plurals in translations changed in some languages. Interface translations are currently not being updated from translatewiki.net; this process will start again on November 6.

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05:21, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-45

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent software changes

• The "Special:Cite" page is now called "Special:CiteThisPage". That way, you know it's to cite the page, not to add a reference.
• You can no longer use the insource: keyword for text searches. It caused issues with the new search tool. It will come back later.

Problems

• There was a bug in VisualEditor with Internet Explorer. It hid tools like the link editor when you opened them. The bug was fixed on Monday.
• Issues with the new search tool caused geo data code to show up on pages on Monday and Friday. The mobile "nearby" tool was also broken. The problem is now fixed.
• HHVM caused server issues on Thursday. They are now fixed.

Software changes this week

• The new version of MediaWiki (1.25wmf5) has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since October 29. It will be on non-Misplaced Pages wikis from November 4, and on all Wikipedias from November 5 (calendar).
• Some wikis have icons at the top of a page to show if it is protected or featured. Icons show up using CSS. You can now use the <indicator> tag in these templates instead to add the icons.
• VisualEditor now tells you if you're editing a re-used reference. This helps you avoid changing it if you just want to add a new one.
• The icons in VisualEditor's template editor tool for adding more fields are back, along with other fixes.
• After November 6, all wikis will have the tool to edit TemplateData.

Future changes

• The new search tool will come to the last wikis in the coming weeks. This includes Misplaced Pages in French, Chinese, German and English.

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17:28, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Links in list

Thanks a lot for editing List of railway_stations in Pakistan#All stations in Pakistan, with codes (alphabetically). Yes, Now it is much better than before. I want some more guidance from you. I want insert categories in all pages of this list, i mean i want insert category of District and Provices on each page. Is there any way to insert this without editing page. Is there any user rights or permissions about inserting categories quickly. Second, can you please tell me about NavBox format in which i need three columns. First Column for Province, Second for District and Third for name of railway stations. I want to change NavBox template. Thanks Ameen Akbar (talk) 17:52, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi, and thanks for all your great work on those articles. One way you might be able to generate articles quickly, including the addition of categories, might be to use the template substition mechanim to make an entire article from subst-ing a single short template. More details on this can be found at Misplaced Pages:Substitution. The other would be to use a bot to make the edits: see Misplaced Pages:Bots. Regarding the addition of extra fields for the {{infobox station}} template, I suggest you get in touch with the Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Trains project, who I believe maintain the template. -- The Anome (talk) 18:39, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-46

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent software changes

• You may see a new tool on the mobile site of the English Misplaced Pages. It asks simple questions to make the article better. In the future, your answers will go to Wikidata.
• The MediaWiki API now shows information in a nice format. You can translate it in translatewiki.net.

File information cleanup

• Reminder: You can help fix file information on your wiki. It will help robots understand the information. After that, it will be easier for you to search files and re-use them.
• You can join two IRC chats this week to learn more about the file cleanup project. One will be on Wednesday at 18:00 (UTC) and the other on Thursday at 04:00 (UTC). You can ask questions during the chat if you need help to fix files on your wiki.
• You can see a list of files to fix on the Labs tool. You can report bugs and ask questions on the talk page.

Problems

• Wikimedia Labs was broken for a few hours on Thursday. It was due to a hardware problem.

Software changes this week

• The new version of MediaWiki (1.25wmf7) has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since November 5. It will be on non-Misplaced Pages wikis from November 11, and on all Wikipedias from November 12 (calendar).
• You can now use more editing tools for tables in VisualEditor. You can add rows and columns, merge cells, and edit table captions.
• The style and insert menus in the toolbar of VisualEditor now show fewer tools. This helps you see the most common tasks. You can see all items by clicking "More".
• The way windows inside VisualEditor work has changed. VisualEditor should be faster and have fewer bugs.

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15:00, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

Bégin Hospital

There's already a page for this hospital, here. https://fr.wikipedia.org/H%C3%B4pital_d%27instruction_des_arm%C3%A9es_B%C3%A9gin

Is there any easy way to make a wikilink to wikipage in French?

Robertpedley (talk) 13:07, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi: if you look at the "Languages" field in the left sidebar of the Bégin Military Teaching Hospital article, and click on the word "Français", you'll find the French article is already linked from there, and vice versa. (The links are done using Wikidata: if you click on the "edit links" field in the interlanguage links, it will take you there) -- The Anome (talk) 13:12, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

OK, got it; but it's very long winded. My Chrome browser will automatically translate French text, isn't there a way to give a direct wikilink to a page on fr.wikipedia.org? The only way I can find is e.g.

• Bégin Military Teaching Hospital? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.145.59.162 (talk) 14:56, 18 November 2014‎

(talk page stalker) @Robertpedley: That link may be simplified to ] - notice that this starts with a colon, then the language code, then another colon, after which the full page name is given. This produces fr:Hôpital d'instruction des armées Bégin; the first colon isn't displayed, but its presence is necessary. You can hide the language code and second colon as well by using ] which produces Hôpital d'instruction des armées Bégin. There is more on this at H:ILL. --Redrose64 (talk) 16:55, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

@Redrose64: Brilliant, thanks! I have no idea when I will use it, but I'm sure it will be useful. Robertpedley (talk) 19:45, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-47

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Software changes this week

• The new version of MediaWiki (1.25wmf8) has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since November 12. It will be on non-Misplaced Pages wikis from November 18, and on all Wikipedias from November 19 (calendar).
• The new search tool ("CirrusSearch") will be on the English Misplaced Pages from November 19.

Move from Bugzilla to Phabricator

• The tool to track bugs will change on November 21.
• You won't be able to add or edit bugs between November 21 and November 24.
• You can make the change easier for you by creating your account.
• Bugzilla will be frozen after the change. You will see, edit and report bugs in Phabricator.
• You can join two IRC chats to learn more about the change. The chats will be on Tuesday, November 18 at 16:00 (UTC) and 23:00 UTC.

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18:28, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-48

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• The move from Bugzilla to Phabricator is done. You can now report bugs in Phabricator.

Problems

• There was a problem when editing tables in VisualEditor. VisualEditor was trying to fix bad values for the colspan or rowspan option. VisualEditor now leaves the bad values to avoid making things worse. This was fixed on November 17.

Software changes this week

• The new version of MediaWiki (1.25wmf9) has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since November 19. It will be on non-Misplaced Pages wikis from November 25, and on all Wikipedias from November 26 (calendar).
• You will be able to try VisualEditor on many new wikis for the first time. After November 26, VisualEditor will become available on Wikidata, Wikiquote, Wikibooks, Wikiversity, Wikivoyage, and Wikinews wikis. You can find it in your Beta options.
• VisualEditor now tells you if your edit needs to be approved.
• You can now use VisualEditor's tools directly when you resume editing after closing the save window.
• VisualEditor's table editing tools now work better in right-to-left languages.

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19:31, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

Phone number username

Thanks. I'd figured that's what it was; it just seemed a little too long even assuming a country code was at the beginning. Good job following up—it was very late and I knew I wouldn't be able to manage it. Daniel Case (talk) 20:48, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-50

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent software changes

• All users are now getting pages from servers that run the HHVM tool. HHVM should make pages load faster.
• You can join a video chat about Phabricator on December 11 at 18:00 (UTC). Phabricator is the new tool to report issues.

Problems

• There was a problem with Phabricator on November 29. It was due to a network issue.

Software changes this week

• The new version of MediaWiki (1.25wmf11) has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since December 3. It will be on non-Misplaced Pages wikis from December 9. It will be on all Wikipedias from December 10 (calendar).
• You can now exit VisualEditor by pressing the "Esc" key.
• It is now easier to use VisualEditor with IMEs. Typing in Malayalam now works better.
• The new version of OOjs UI fixed many issues with the size and layout of buttons in dialogs.
• (Lua) You can no longer use mw.text.unstrip to get the HTML from special page transclusion. You can see a list of scripts to fix.

Future changes

• Starting next week JavaScript tools won't work if they use jQuery Migrate.

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17:11, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Diligence
	thank you mr bot Saadkhan12345 (talk) 04:37, 13 December 2014 (UTC)