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is behind us now, Brad, and you'll be missed in that 'other place'. So just a quiet ‘’all the best’’ to you for 2015 and I hope you’ll continue to be the 6th pillar' of Misplaced Pages for a long time to come.--] (]) 13:00, 1 January 2015 (UTC) | is behind us now, Brad, and you'll be missed in that 'other place'. So just a quiet ‘’all the best’’ to you for 2015 and I hope you’ll continue to be the 6th pillar' of Misplaced Pages for a long time to come.--] (]) 13:00, 1 January 2015 (UTC) | ||
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typo in arbitration comment?
At the civility enforcement amendment request you wrote " not at all intended to lock in the then- or non-current RfA system" in your point 2. I think you might have meant "now-current" rather than "non-current"? Thryduulf (talk) 16:16, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
- Correct. Fixing. I hope this year the community elected arbitrators who can type. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 16:37, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
- Typing qualifications are the least of my concerns ;) - After two years of asking the arb candidates to look at an edit by Andy which some arbs and enforcers didn't understand, I hope for a break. I started the year, getting back from a freeze after 28bytes left, to write an article because someone died, and just wrote the last article of 2014, again because someone died, - hope for a break there as well. Peace is on the German Main page. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:51, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
In respect of the conduct during arbitration cases proposal at the Gamergate workshop, you also said "This principal is sound and is plainly applicable here." For a moment, I wasn't sure if that was principally different to what you intended. Ncmvocalist (talk) 14:21, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you. I must have needed coffee. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 16:13, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
- Interesting. Don't take this the wrong way, but after your having spent several years being an arbitrator, somehow, coffee isn't the drink I would have expected you to say you might have needed. John Carter (talk) 16:36, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
- I need coffee before typing on the arbitration pages. You are quite right that a different drink might be in order afterwards. Newyorkbrad (talk) 16:38, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
- Interesting. Don't take this the wrong way, but after your having spent several years being an arbitrator, somehow, coffee isn't the drink I would have expected you to say you might have needed. John Carter (talk) 16:36, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
And thank you for fixing my spelling - for some reason I always think "incoming" should have two "m"s! Thryduulf (talk) 20:16, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
- In case of interest, peace and joy is now on this Main page, not my Christmas message yet (will be posted on my user pages, don't expect individual greetings, as much as I admire the ones I received), but good for edit summaries, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:24, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
Thank you
Thank you, Brad, for all the thoughtful work you have done for this project. Given that your ArbCom term ends December 31, I truly wish you a Happy New Year in 2015. Cullen Let's discuss it 01:01, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
Yes, best wishes and thank you for your work and the time you have put in (though I still don't understand where you found all that time in the first place). Assuming you aren't interested in AE (heh), maybe you would be able to help in other areas of the project...such as checkuser work? Ncmvocalist (talk) 16:34, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
- I think everyone understands the need to move on after giving years to ArbCom, but it won't be the same. I think you have often been the voice of reason, the mature adult, that Wiki editors looked to when all else failed. Good luck, thank you and Happy Holidays! Dave Dial (talk) 16:39, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
Thank you all for your comments. My plans for the wikifuture don't include checkuser, which I never had much technical skill at and which I will be giving up (along with oversight) on December 31. My overall goal is to spend much more of my wikitime writing and editing articles, which after all is why I came to Misplaced Pages once upon a time in the first place. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 16:55, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
- That's understandable I guess. BTW, I thought your comments at the latest PD were admirable and even if he's not going to be in the mindspace to appreciate, it really was very nice. The ultimate unfortunate outcome was essential in the end, but I guess it's sad that it happened just before Christmas. Still, at least you are one step closer to your arbitrator retirement, and maybe more articles relating to the law (among other things) will be created and improved by you after another week; I do look forward to that at least. Regards, Ncmvocalist (talk) 20:14, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
an article
If you want to get back to ordinary editing, there's a draft in need of learned assistance at Misplaced Pages talk:Articles for creation/Adickes v. S.H. Kress & Co. DGG ( talk ) 06:24, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
- I'll take a look and probably do some editing, though perhaps not until after the first of the year. (I have to admit that maybe I don't understand exactly how the AfC process works. If that article had been created in mainspace, it would not have been an exemplary article, but it wouldn't have been speedied or anything either. Are the standards much higher for passing a draft from AfC into mainspace?) Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 16:54, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
- the declared standard is that it is likely to survive AfD, not merely speedy. In practice, most reviewers use a standard that first, it will not even be questioned at AfD, and second, that it is not significantly deficient in any key element (as this arguably is for context). It is furthermore possible for any autoconfirmed editor to move an article to mainspace regardless of criteria, and this frequently does happen both to irrational idiosyncratic declines on one hand , and to correctly declined promotional articles on the other. There is also a desire to get the author to fix an low quality article first, but the rate of this happening is rather low. DGG ( talk ) 04:10, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
- Just a friendly talk page stalker-at-law here. I probably understand the AFC process less well than NYB does, but... doesn't a "live" version of this article already exist? See Adickes v. S.H. Kress Co. It looks like it was moved from AFC-space in either January or February 2014, but the edit history is a little confusing on that point. (At least to me.) Neutron (talk) 05:06, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
- NYB and @DGG: I looked at the "live" version of the article and it is woefully deficient. I added some pertinent facts from the decision so that a reader might actually know how the case originated, which I think is kind of significant. (I remember this case from law school as the "segregated lunch counter case"; I had forgotten about the summary judgment aspect.) Anyway, the article still needs a lot of work. I am not sure where that leaves what is at AFC. Neutron (talk) 23:57, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
- I hope to get to this and put some work in on it after the 1st. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 00:10, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
- NYB and @DGG: I looked at the "live" version of the article and it is woefully deficient. I added some pertinent facts from the decision so that a reader might actually know how the case originated, which I think is kind of significant. (I remember this case from law school as the "segregated lunch counter case"; I had forgotten about the summary judgment aspect.) Anyway, the article still needs a lot of work. I am not sure where that leaves what is at AFC. Neutron (talk) 23:57, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
- Just a friendly talk page stalker-at-law here. I probably understand the AFC process less well than NYB does, but... doesn't a "live" version of this article already exist? See Adickes v. S.H. Kress Co. It looks like it was moved from AFC-space in either January or February 2014, but the edit history is a little confusing on that point. (At least to me.) Neutron (talk) 05:06, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
- the declared standard is that it is likely to survive AfD, not merely speedy. In practice, most reviewers use a standard that first, it will not even be questioned at AfD, and second, that it is not significantly deficient in any key element (as this arguably is for context). It is furthermore possible for any autoconfirmed editor to move an article to mainspace regardless of criteria, and this frequently does happen both to irrational idiosyncratic declines on one hand , and to correctly declined promotional articles on the other. There is also a desire to get the author to fix an low quality article first, but the rate of this happening is rather low. DGG ( talk ) 04:10, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
- Neutron As for the AfC, there is no fixed practice. If it appears the afcwas used as the base for the mainspace article, we usually redirect the arc to the article talk p. as we would if it were accepted normally. In this case, looking at the version it is a complete and improved rewrite, so we normally simply delete the afc under G as "already in main space" or "now in main space" . No one seems to have challenged these procedures yet, or the various expedients that have been used to get around the manifold defects in the arc process. (The ideal course, of improving afc processes, appears unfeasible--at least, it appears unfeasible to me, after several years trying.) DGG ( talk ) 01:42, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
Russavia
Hiya
The user that uploaded this image to Commons, from what I can find out they are banned from this Misplaced Pages, however not banned from Commons or any other Wikipedias.
To me, that would seem to be the editors whole purpose at the moment. Would ANI on this Misplaced Pages be the best place to raise this?--5 albert square (talk) 13:45, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker)What? There is nothing to discuss on Enwiki's AN/I, the editor is already banned on this project. If you have issues with Russavia's behaviour on other projects, then discuss it on those projects. ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 15:57, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
Ears burning
You're being mentioned in User talk:Jimbo Wales/Archive 180#Apologizes. Igor the facetious xmas bunny (talk) 14:32, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
- That was a Russavia sock. Predictable and boring. Jehochman 16:04, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
New Newyorkbradblog post
"Misplaced Pages's notoriously gangsterish back channels". Please be encouraged to read and discuss. Newyorkbrad (talk) 15:48, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
We regret to inform you..
That the "WikiCabal that really runs Misplaced Pages" (TM, Patent Pending) has decided that your escape from the ArbCom will be disallowed, as you are too wise to actually be allowed to stop serving, and as such, has created the new position of Permanent Arbitrator, which you have been forcibly appointed to. The good news is, that it comes with a salary bonus of 50% more JimboBucks in your secret Wiki Swiss Bank Account. Use your position well, Permanent Arbitrator!
(In all seriousness, which is a change for me these days, congrats on a job well done and here's hoping you enjoy your retirement at least as much as you did serving. That's a low bar, I admit) SirFozzie (talk) 05:19, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
- Just curious. I looked at the wall of proposals at the Gamergate proposed decision page. I think I counted at least 22 different people making proposals, sometimes in the number of dozens of proposals per person. Do you retiring arbitrators have the chance to, basically, run away from that case at the end of the year, which I would try to do in the same position, or are you more or less honor bound to wade through that morass of type until the final decision is made? John Carter (talk) 02:29, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
- We have the option. If a case had just opened within the past week or two, I wouldn't stay active on it. However, the GamerGate case started some time ago and I've already spent time reviewing evidence and commenting on the workshop, so it makes sense for me to finish it out (although I won't be one of the drafters). Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 02:37, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
Happy New Year Newyorkbrad!
Happy New Year!Newyorkbrad,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Misplaced Pages. Atsme☯ 13:17, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
Happy New Year
Congratulations on a fine six year stint on Arbcom. I may not have agreed with every action, but all in all you have been the embodiment of rationality and clear thought. I believe you've mentioned in passing an interest in debriefing about your time on the committee after your term is over. If you are at all serious about that, I'd be happy to do an interview with you for the front page blog of Wikipediocracy, the content of which can be ported over to Misplaced Pages. Probably best done in writing if you are interested, just so everything is clear and precise. I'm at ShoeHutch@gmail.com and there is no rush — any time in January or February works. All the best, —Tim Davenport /// Carrite (talk) 17:37, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for the note. Although my arbitrator term expires tonight, I will continue as an active arbitrator on the GamerGate case (since I've already invested a fair amount of time on it at the evidence-workshop stage), so will finish that up before doing a debriefing or two. After that, first dibs on whatever interview or story they might want to do should go to the "Signpost", or perhaps any successor that might exist to "Not the Misplaced Pages Weekly." As for an interview with the Wikipediocrats, I'm open to it, though I would probably want whatever I said to be published in its entirety. Otherwise, I have no doubt that if I (hypothetically) wrote "97% of English Misplaced Pages's 4.5 million articles are good," someone would try to recast that as "Newyorkbrad denounces 135,000 shitty Misplaced Pages articles." There would also need to be an understanding that there are still some things I can't comment on, and that I'm not especially looking to rehash the merits of every vote I cast over the past seven years that disappointed a Wikipediocracy member. In any event, let's circle back to this in a few weeks. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 20:43, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
Update note
My term as a member of the Arbitration Committee expires tonight. I will continue as a participating arbitrator on the pending GamerGate case, because I have already invested significant time on that case at the evidence and workshop stages, but not on any other matters. I am also relinquishing my (rarely used) checkuser and oversight rights at this time. I remain an administrator and, most importantly, an editor. Happy New Year to all. Newyorkbrad (talk) 20:59, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you for your generosity, and impeccable service to WP, Brad. I'm watching your keynote presentation on BLPs as I type this. Bravo!!! Atsme☯ 21:11, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
- You have been as fair and impartial an arbitrator as we could ever ask for. Thank you for setting a high standard that hopefully the new arbs will follow. Happy New Year!--MONGO 23:50, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
- Happy New Year! Your term on ArbCom is over. You're free! Enjoy! Hawkeye7 (talk) 01:58, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you for your diligence, and commitment to this project. --Anthonyhcole (talk · contribs · email) 02:46, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
2015 already
Hi Brad. No frills - just a quiet ‘’all the best’’ to you for 2015, a big thank you for all your work on Arbcom, and I hope you’ll continue to be around on Misplaced Pages for a long time to come. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 12:05, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
2014
is behind us now, Brad, and you'll be missed in that 'other place'. So just a quiet ‘’all the best’’ to you for 2015 and I hope you’ll continue to be the 6th pillar' of Misplaced Pages for a long time to come.--Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 13:00, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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Thank you for your distinguished service as an arbitrator. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:12, 1 January 2015 (UTC) |