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:Again, when you find yourself in near constant conflict with a series of experienced and - ahem - disinterested editors, it should be a clue. And of course it's hardly just Ken and APK who regard many of your recent edits as poorly-considered. The truth - from where I stand - is that you seem to be more interested in populating the site with your own photos than you are in improving the encyclopedia. As long as that's your approach, you're going to encounter friction and frustration; and if you can't get past that mindset, then retirement is indeed the most appropriate decision for you. ] (]) 03:31, 4 January 2015 (UTC) | :Again, when you find yourself in near constant conflict with a series of experienced and - ahem - disinterested editors, it should be a clue. And of course it's hardly just Ken and APK who regard many of your recent edits as poorly-considered. The truth - from where I stand - is that you seem to be more interested in populating the site with your own photos than you are in improving the encyclopedia. As long as that's your approach, you're going to encounter friction and frustration; and if you can't get past that mindset, then retirement is indeed the most appropriate decision for you. ] (]) 03:31, 4 January 2015 (UTC) | ||
My photos are a partial contribution, but as far as the aerial ones I know of no other user that contributes as much valuable aerial stock, as I do. Any one is welcome to review my editorial contributions, and or visit one of the many pages here that I have authored. With a 30 year legal background my insight and composure is most of the time well within the limitations of any well rounded contributor. Photographs tell a million words. Not one of my critics has the type of historic contributions, in photography that I do, so it is hard to take lip from a amateur photographer that has a 200 dollar point and shoot. It cost me more then that for the plane today for a hour, but that is not the point. Contributions and ALL of them should be vetted in some way. The editors mentioned here are well know on both Wiki (EN) and wiki commons s abrasive and each tend to dominate topics and rally others to quickly gain a 30 minute consensus then execute the summary judgment, and take the knife to the victim right on the spot. In law that is referred to as a kangaroo court and I see it all too often here, but what is funny is that the same users do it over and over again. Yes I am a photographer. I am not a clinical research specialist or a student with time on his hands. Every time I have replaced a photo, I have taken the time to research the page, and its contents, as well as the dated, the file size, image quality and the originality of what I am going to contribute, and weigh each of those factors in before I place a photo on a page. As for years I have participated in the Featured Photo Program, it has been helpful to try to learn the "drift" of the editors that contribute as the users seem to come and go, and a few of the photographers that do contribute has a great deal of talent, yet those persons are never involved in these mini wars, that the above mentioned users like to use to dominate pages here. There is a flaw in this site that could be a fatal flaw, if the users keep vanishing and others |
My photos are a partial contribution, but as far as the aerial ones I know of no other user that contributes as much valuable aerial stock, as I do. Any one is welcome to review my editorial contributions, and or visit one of the many pages here that I have authored. With a 30 year legal background my insight and composure is most of the time well within the limitations of any well rounded contributor. Photographs tell a million words. Not one of my critics has the type of historic contributions, in photography that I do, so it is hard to take lip from a amateur photographer that has a 200 dollar point and shoot. It cost me more then that for the plane today for a hour, but that is not the point. Contributions and ALL of them should be vetted in some way. The editors mentioned here are well know on both Wiki (EN) and wiki commons s abrasive and each tend to dominate topics and rally others to quickly gain a 30 minute consensus then execute the summary judgment, and take the knife to the victim right on the spot. In law that is referred to as a kangaroo court and I see it all too often here, but what is funny is that the same users do it over and over again. Yes I am a photographer. I am not a clinical research specialist or a student with time on his hands. Every time I have replaced a photo, I have taken the time to research the page, and its contents, as well as the dated, the file size, image quality and the originality of what I am going to contribute, and weigh each of those factors in before I place a photo on a page. As for years I have participated in the Featured Photo Program, it has been helpful to try to learn the "drift" of the editors that contribute as the users seem to come and go, and a few of the photographers that do contribute has a great deal of talent, yet those persons are never involved in these mini wars, that the above mentioned users like to use to dominate pages here. There is a flaw in this site that could be a fatal flaw, if the users keep vanishing and others are continued to be dissuaded from contributing as it requires steel skin and a willingness to take on people whom are known to be abusive. ]<span style="border:1px solid black;">''' ] '''</span> 04:04, 4 January 2015 (UTC) |
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Robert Paulele
John,
Why are you attempting to erase my clients Misplaced Pages.? He is a notable coach and player that has worked with many Superbowl Champions. Troy Polamalu, Earl Christy, Tom Herter, & Bob Sanders are his high profile players he has either played or coached. Do your homework next time you attempt to delete somebody pedigree. — Preceding unsigned comment added by K.lane.smww (talk • contribs) 04:15, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
- Actually I did a good bit of work. I took what I could find about the subject (which is not much) and laid it up against the notability requirements of WP:BIO and found it wanting. He had an undistinguished college career, no meaningful professional career, and since then has held a variety of coaching positions. This all falls well short of the kind of specific attention that is required. (The notability of people with whom he has worked, or along side of, is beside the point. Notability doesn't rub off.) I also checked every single external link in the article and removed the ones that were dead ends.
- Since you note that he is a client of yours, you probably should look into the page on conflicts of interest. Broadly speaking, it's a bad idea to edit articles about subject with which you have a personal or financial connection. Thanks. JohnInDC (talk) 13:56, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
FYI
I gave User:99.112.212.119 an edit warring warning regarding the edits being made to Clathrate gun hypothesis. Thought you should know in case they continue to try to force the changes. demize (t · c) 06:06, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks. He's a serial sockpuppet / vandal - it's been going on for years - and that account is blocked by now. Take a look at User:Arthur_Rubin/IP_list for an idea of the scope of the problem. I don't think this fellow holds down a day job, that's for sure! JohnInDC (talk) 15:36, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
Re User_talk:Technicalitycatcher
I'll be editing and eagle-eyeing your contributions and errors! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Technicalitycatcher (talk • contribs) 02:44, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
- I'll read that as a good-humored, if slightly clumsy jibe and not as a statement of your intention to begin hounding me. Thanks. JohnInDC (talk) 03:33, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
Your input is requested . . . .
John, I'd like to get your opinion on the revised college football player infobox: . Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 21:16, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
Brooklyn
How on EARTH does the November 2005 picture of the Brooklyn Bridge make a better representation of Brooklyn, then a December 2014 aerial picture of the Brooklyn itself?talk→ WPPilot 23:49, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
- It wasn't hard. The Brooklyn Bridge is an iconic symbol of the borough, instantly recognizable to many people. The prior photo was also very nicely composed and colorful. The aerial photo that you took is, in the size it's presented, nearly featureless; not to mention being sort of brown and colorless, and skewed. The Brooklyn Bridge photo was plainly a superior photo, and on the whole a better representation than the poorly scaled photo you substituted. I've looked at several of your photo contributions and many of them are pretty nice shots, but you might do well to think in each case whether your photo is in fact an improvement over the one that was there. JohnInDC (talk) 01:41, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
- I raised the issue at the article Talk page. Thanks. JohnInDC (talk) 02:16, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
- There are several articles, like Central Park, Empire State Building (original image restored), White House (different image now displayed), Washington Monument (which has a Featured Picture I've restored), etc., which have had lead images replaced with ones that are not as good. It's nothing personal, WPPilot. It's just some of your images are not as good as the ones that you're replacing. We should display the best we have to offer, especially on such highly-viewed articles. The reasoning that photos are a couple of years old doesn't matter, IMO. APK whisper in my ear 02:34, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
- Even when the photos are no longer accurate and are aged as much as 10 years? You opinion does not take into account the fact that the photos your restoring, no longer represent the subject, i.e. the White House, Central Park, Washington Monument The pic you "like" just like the picture of a bridge, is 10 years old and as such no longer accurate. talk→ WPPilot 03:09, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
- If you think a photo has become inaccurate - particularly a photo that has been in place for a long time, and particularly when the photo is a Featured Picture - then raise the issue on the article Talk page to see if you can gain a consensus to change or update it. Also, particularly if your preferred photo is one that you yourself took. Taking these steps will ensure that Misplaced Pages continues to display the best possible photos available, and will probably reduce the number of times your new photos are quickly swapped back out for the prior version. Thanks. JohnInDC (talk) 03:16, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
- Even when the photos are no longer accurate and are aged as much as 10 years? You opinion does not take into account the fact that the photos your restoring, no longer represent the subject, i.e. the White House, Central Park, Washington Monument The pic you "like" just like the picture of a bridge, is 10 years old and as such no longer accurate. talk→ WPPilot 03:09, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
- There are several articles, like Central Park, Empire State Building (original image restored), White House (different image now displayed), Washington Monument (which has a Featured Picture I've restored), etc., which have had lead images replaced with ones that are not as good. It's nothing personal, WPPilot. It's just some of your images are not as good as the ones that you're replacing. We should display the best we have to offer, especially on such highly-viewed articles. The reasoning that photos are a couple of years old doesn't matter, IMO. APK whisper in my ear 02:34, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
- I raised the issue at the article Talk page. Thanks. JohnInDC (talk) 02:16, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
- Most the time, I do. I have a number of current featured photos myself and am aware of protocol here. With regard to the photo of a bridge representing a city, as the bridge is iconic with the city is not really a valid argument. Misplaced Pages is not a art display that uses iconic images as the lead image to represent a city, that is really a bad argument, ot that "it has been here a long time so ask first", all due respect but the site evolves with updates, fresh updates at that, not lethargy for pretty icons that to some people provide "symbolism", is that correct.... talk→ WPPilot 03:41, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
- Probably the discussion about the better photograph for Brooklyn should be continued at that Talk page. Meanwhile I do think that Talk discussions before you make these edits, rather than after, is the better course for both you and the encyclopedia. JohnInDC (talk) 04:07, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
Look, you win, I think I am going to retire from the site. I am tired of dealing with idiots. It is no longer worth my time. talk→ WPPilot 02:36, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
- This is the second time you're being warned about no personal attacks. Keep it up and you'll find yourself blocked. APK whisper in my ear 02:38, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
- WPP, when a succession of experienced and respected editors quickly and consistently reverts your (persistent) addition of your own photos, it suggests that perhaps you're the one out of step. But you know better than any of us whether you're capable of doing things differently, so if retirement seems like the only option, I won't try to talk you out of it. JohnInDC (talk) 02:42, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
BYK has done this to me before. The site has developed a gang type of mentality that is out of control. The conversation was with regard to lead photos. People hold grudges and apply those in a manner that is not justified, and as with the bridge photo, there is no logic whatsoever to a picture of a bridge representing a city as it is ICONIC. I have been belittled enough, and had a slurry of rude comments, as well as a day of my life consumed with BS, and a total lack of reasoning or even a willingness to communicate, everything is done by the sword now, and what your saying is "deal with it". Your unaware of my prior history with the random power logic of BMK, now I have whisper in my ear as a stalker, what's the point, if these two nice fellows are going to dominate the site, why don't you just give it to them? talk→ WPPilot 03:04, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
- Again, when you find yourself in near constant conflict with a series of experienced and - ahem - disinterested editors, it should be a clue. And of course it's hardly just Ken and APK who regard many of your recent edits as poorly-considered. The truth - from where I stand - is that you seem to be more interested in populating the site with your own photos than you are in improving the encyclopedia. As long as that's your approach, you're going to encounter friction and frustration; and if you can't get past that mindset, then retirement is indeed the most appropriate decision for you. JohnInDC (talk) 03:31, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
My photos are a partial contribution, but as far as the aerial ones I know of no other user that contributes as much valuable aerial stock, as I do. Any one is welcome to review my editorial contributions, and or visit one of the many pages here that I have authored. With a 30 year legal background my insight and composure is most of the time well within the limitations of any well rounded contributor. Photographs tell a million words. Not one of my critics has the type of historic contributions, in photography that I do, so it is hard to take lip from a amateur photographer that has a 200 dollar point and shoot. It cost me more then that for the plane today for a hour, but that is not the point. Contributions and ALL of them should be vetted in some way. The editors mentioned here are well know on both Wiki (EN) and wiki commons s abrasive and each tend to dominate topics and rally others to quickly gain a 30 minute consensus then execute the summary judgment, and take the knife to the victim right on the spot. In law that is referred to as a kangaroo court and I see it all too often here, but what is funny is that the same users do it over and over again. Yes I am a photographer. I am not a clinical research specialist or a student with time on his hands. Every time I have replaced a photo, I have taken the time to research the page, and its contents, as well as the dated, the file size, image quality and the originality of what I am going to contribute, and weigh each of those factors in before I place a photo on a page. As for years I have participated in the Featured Photo Program, it has been helpful to try to learn the "drift" of the editors that contribute as the users seem to come and go, and a few of the photographers that do contribute has a great deal of talent, yet those persons are never involved in these mini wars, that the above mentioned users like to use to dominate pages here. There is a flaw in this site that could be a fatal flaw, if the users keep vanishing and others are continued to be dissuaded from contributing as it requires steel skin and a willingness to take on people whom are known to be abusive. talk→ WPPilot 04:04, 4 January 2015 (UTC)