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There seems to be something weird about the arbitration page templates (PD template etc) that means they don't fold down properly when viewed on the mobile site (en.m.wikipedia.org). Most articles collapse so that all text below first-level headings is hidden initially, but this doesn't work on the arbitration case pages. Given how large some of those pages get, it makes navigation on mobile devices very unwieldy. Could someone have a look at it if they get a moment, please? ] (]) 05:53, 29 December 2014 (UTC) | There seems to be something weird about the arbitration page templates (PD template etc) that means they don't fold down properly when viewed on the mobile site (en.m.wikipedia.org). Most articles collapse so that all text below first-level headings is hidden initially, but this doesn't work on the arbitration case pages. Given how large some of those pages get, it makes navigation on mobile devices very unwieldy. Could someone have a look at it if they get a moment, please? ] (]) 05:53, 29 December 2014 (UTC) | ||
== Help with request == | |||
I have tried to add a request for arbitration but obviously messed it up so I removed it. The proposed content can be found at | |||
Could you let me know what I have done wrong please. ] (]) 14:48, 8 January 2015 (UTC) |
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Re: Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Banning Policy/Proposed decision
(cross-posting to Hac21)
1) For Proposal #1 I count 4 votes: Worm, Seraphimblade, GorillaWarfare, and T. Canens. NativeForeigner voted for this only as a second choice to #1.2 Also, this would seem to indicate Mr. Fuchs might not support a Jimbo page ban. So it would appear the implementation notes are not correct wrt #1.
2) Why does this section say four votes are needed to close the case? There are nine active arbitrators. —Neotarf (talk) 18:01, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
- Regarding 1), 5 votes are a majority, and David Fuchs voted support for remedy 1. In 1.1 the implication was that he was voting against a ban from Jimbo's talk page only not (given he supported 1) from administrative boards in addition to Jimbo's talk page (particularly since he decided not to change his vote after opposing 1.1).
- Regarding 2), per arbitration procedures four net votes or an absolute majority (+ 24 hours waiting time) are required to close. In this case (as in almost all cases) four net votes in support and confirmation on the clerks mailing list meant that the case was closed. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 04:17, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
- Callanecc parsed my intent properly, although I can see how it would be a bit confusing from my wording; for that I apologize. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs 00:34, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
Discretionary sanctions at Historicity of Jesus
This case request has been sitting at <9/1/0/1> for the last 5 days or so. Is there typically a delay before moving a request into an open case? Fearofreprisal (talk) 07:54, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
Committee function questions
Greetings, I'm from Thai Misplaced Pages and I'm working on newly-set Arbitration there. I have some questions:
- Where do the arbitrators discuss the evidence and statements presented to them?
- Do they ask the parties to the case themselves for more detail or evidence?
- What will they do if all parties just not follow the schedule? (I've seen that there are due dates here.)
Regards, --ThHorus (talk) 08:41, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
Did I forget to tip someone?
Re Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case#DangerousPanda -- reading the criteria atMisplaced Pages:Arbitration/Guide_to_arbitration#Deciding_of_requests -- Carcharoth's vote made the count plus four well over 24 hours ago, so there's a case, right? NE Ent 21:51, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
- Yep. And a clerk will open it as soon as he can get to it (we have already asked). Salvio 22:30, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
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I have been told that the code at {{Casenav/sandbox}}
"box does not render correctly" but no details have been supplied, despite my request.
{{Casenav/sandbox}}
is a fix for {{Casenav}}
, which has a parameter case name =
which is not fully implemented - shortcut, schedule and staff are not working.
The comparison between the two is at {{Casenav/testcases}}
, where you can see with a case name set, the sandbox version works correctly, the live version doesn't. (Without a case name both break, because it is not an arbitration case page.)
The same comparison has been on the talk page of the template Template talk:Casenav for 14 days and no-one has identified any problems.
I have also tested the sandbox template with "preview" on 17 arbitration case pages, and have seen no issues. I have even tab-switched between the livepage and the preview, I can still see no difference. I have asked at WP:VP(T), no-one has identified the problem, let alone a solution.
I have also been told that only Arbitration Clerks can change templates used on Arbitration pages.
Therefore I request my colleagues on the Clark Force to advise me if there is an issue that affects their use of this corrected template, specifically how the "box renders" in which case I will fix it. If not I cordially invite them to restore the fixed version of {{Casenav}}
All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 03:20, 19 November 2014 (UTC).
- Rich, we've asked AGK to take a look when he has time as he knows how the arbitration templates work the best of all of us. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 13:30, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
- Well that's very nice of you. Unfortunately AGK had put the ball in your court:
Please find a clerk, explain what you need fixed, and they will do it for you
- He has also said that Casenav is an extremely complicated template, written by me and Xeno over a number of months. (it is actually fairly straightforward, though it has some fundamental flaws) and given that he begrudged 10 minutes to respond to MSJ I find it highly unlikely that he will have the time to look at what is, after all, a very simple change correcting a problem he introduced with edits like this.
- Let me make it clear, I do not think this is the responsibility of the clerks, but AGK does. Given that you seem to share my view I will be creating a new
{{Edit protected}}
request shortly. Of course if anyone does identify this phantom "box renders inconsistently" issue, please let me know and disable the{{Edit protected}}
request. - All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 21:38, 23 November 2014 (UTC).
- Well that's very nice of you. Unfortunately AGK had put the ball in your court:
Landmark Worldwide
Could I have your advice please on this section on the PD Talk page for the Landmark case: . Is the behaviour of John Carter and Astynax acceptable? To me it feels more and more like an orchestrated witch hunt or an attempt at baiting. Should I respond further, or have I made my position entirely clear already?
While I'm here, could I also enquire why Lithistman has not been added as a party to this case? I requested that he should be on my submission to the original Request page on 20th September: , and evidence has been provided about his violations on The Evidence and Workshop pages, and yet now I am told that he is not a party and it is too late to add him? DaveApter (talk) 11:56, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
- Please drop the stick. You were told it was too late to add another party to the case. I know you're frustrated, but you should let thus go. LHM 13:55, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
- @DaveApter: I need to review our Guide to arbitration and check with some more experienced clerks as my first review did not leave me satisfied I could answer the question completely. Working on it now.--S Philbrick(Talk) 14:47, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
Please correct list numbering
Currently the Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Gender Gap Task Force/Proposed decision#Carolmooredc topic banned oppose list has incorrect numbering, needs the list format tweaked, ":::" should be ":#:". --Mirokado (talk) 02:26, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
- This is now fixed. --Mirokado (talk) 01:26, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
redact request
Off topic snarky comment and original post. NE Ent 19:47, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
Baseball Bugs' request
Please could a clerk take a look at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification and Amendment#Clarification request and appeal: Interaction ban and see if they can impose some structure. Thanks. Thryduulf (talk) 23:33, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
Typo
There is an error in Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Interactions at GGTF#Focus and locus of dispute in which the text reads "the the" rather than "the". If it is usual to correct trivial typos, then this should be done. WhatamIdoing (talk) 04:36, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
- Fixed, thanks. Salvio 09:28, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
Implementation notes for Landmark Worldwide case
Could these be updated please? thanks DaveApter (talk) 15:18, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
- Done Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 15:37, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, that's much clearer now. But shouldn't 'Nwlaw63 topic banned' be 2-5 rather than 2-4? DaveApter (talk) 18:20, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
- There are only 4 oppose votes on that proposal. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 00:38, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
Arbitration Case Templates and Mobile Site
There seems to be something weird about the arbitration page templates (PD template etc) that means they don't fold down properly when viewed on the mobile site (en.m.wikipedia.org). Most articles collapse so that all text below first-level headings is hidden initially, but this doesn't work on the arbitration case pages. Given how large some of those pages get, it makes navigation on mobile devices very unwieldy. Could someone have a look at it if they get a moment, please? GoldenRing (talk) 05:53, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
Help with request
I have tried to add a request for arbitration but obviously messed it up so I removed it. The proposed content can be found at
Could you let me know what I have done wrong please. Martin Hogbin (talk) 14:48, 8 January 2015 (UTC)