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If you have come here to place a request for a re-confirmation of my adminship, please note that I will either:

• choose to take the matter to ArbComm;
• or seek community approval of my adminship through an RfC;
• or resign my powers and stand again for adminship;

at my discretion

• once the "six editors in good standing" count has been met using my own criteria
• and the matter concerns my admin powers rather than a non-admin editing concern.

Archives:

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• Archive 1: 13 April 2005 - 9 August 2005
• Archive 2: 14 August 2005 - 12 November 2005
• Archive 3: 13 November 2005 - 3 December 2005
• Archive 4: 4 December 2005 - 7 February 2006
• Archive 5: 7 February 2006 - 30 March 2006

Re: Anti-heroes list

I understand your point about this category being vague, so I propose a compromise: Including a list of qualities in a fictional character that conform with the definition of an antihero put out in wikipedia's own article on the subject. Sound good? --Treybien 22:20, June 11 2006 (UTC)

Thank you

Hey, I want to thank you for having faith and helping me over the past day. I'm indebted, and appreciate it a lot. Again, thanks! -- infinity0 20:23, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Links to this page where deemed personal attacks...

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk:Measles&curid=58994&diff=46812423&oldid=46748456

Given the behaviour of that clacque, this may turn into a job ... I wonder if you would care to take note of User:Whaleto's behaviour immediately after returning from a 24 hour block for inivility?. Midgley 21:52, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Significance

I think you might have been a bit hasty tagging this historical; but I agree the tide is against it. For what it's worth I'm on your side here. It rankles that notability is not a strict criterion for inclusion.

I think for one, you need to use the word "notability"; it's accepted as the word that points to the concept, whatever quibble you might be able to raise in favor of "significance". For two, you need to realize that this is a hot-button issue; it doesn't take a genius to interpret any notability proposal as an attack against his beloved cruft. For three, I suggest you gather together a small working group and draft the proposal with plenty of group input: make sure it's really ready to roll out with significant support.

If you want to put in some effort here, let me know. John Reid 05:59, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

copied from User talk:John Reid:

Okay, I've moved the page to Misplaced Pages:Notability/Proposal, noted that at the pump and hope a working party will build. I tagged it as historical because there was no-one who turned up and supported the proposal. Some show of support would have helped really, it appeared to me I was fighting as one man. I recognise it will attract criticism, even as basic as it is at present, but it's hard to move forward if all the supporters remain silent. Steve block talk 08:44, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure that a move is enough/wise at this point. Perhaps you need to recruit the working party first, then write the proposal, then throw it out for general comment. John Reid 22:51, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

• Hello, I just encountered your proposal and I wanted to stop by to say that I support your overall goal. When I have more time, I'll read the proposal more carefully and comment more specifically. Johntex\ 11:43, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

• John, if you want to take it forward your own way, let me know, I'll happily bow out. Steve block talk 09:16, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

No, it's your ball; run with it. Please accept my comment in the helpful spirit in which it's intended: You may get more done if you're more open to wider input. It's always tempting to take any criticism as a signal to pass the ball but I think it's better to hang on with one hand while putting the other to an ear. In this case (to beat the analogy for all it's worth) you might like to retreat to the locker room after a tough first half and discuss your playbook while the band is killing Sousa. Second half could be a turnaround.

By the way, I'd really appreciate it if I didn't have to copy your comments back to this page. After all, if we split the conversation between two pages then nobody else can understand what's going on without making an extra effort. John Reid 17:51, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

I tend to reply at a user's talk page, I did mean to get round to adding a notice to that effect here, but never did, it seems. That's just the way people I've interacted with have done it, sorry. As to the analogy, I would have been sent off for handball, which may not be too far from the truth. :) Steve block talk 09:27, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Help! I Can't Log In!

I'm in a bit of a bind and as a newbie, I've no idea what to do. Perhaps you can help.

I created a Misplaced Pages account as "OldSkoolGeek" (previously did edits as anonymously) and now not only did I forget my password, I didn't have the opportunity to put in an e-mail address for my profile so I can't e-mail a reminder to myself!

Is there any way to salvage the situation? I rather like my chosen nom de Wiki and am quite loath to give it up. If you like, you can e-mail mail me at xSASHAx (at) hotmail (dot) com.

Thank you!

Steve,

As luck would have it, I actually was able to piece together my password so "OldSkoolGeek is now live again.

Thank you very much for offering to help. I really, really appreciate it. OldSkoolGeek 02:02, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

A help question

Hi; I'd like to start an RfC on RJII based on his refusal to respond to criticism. I am the only editor currently engaged in conflict with him, though, so that doesn't meet the two-person requirement. What are the other options? -- infinity0 15:45, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Ally, Ally, Oxen Free!

(Or maybe that kids'-game line isn't used across the pond?)

Hey there. Here's a cc of my Ally Sloper's Half Holiday discussion:

Hiya, Steve. All that's cool, and thanks for the explanation that delves into our famous "two countries divided by a common language"! Hope all the details and illustrations I've added have helped to flesh out this and the Ally Sloper article itself.

I'd only suggest using a cap after a colon if what follows is a complete sentence. Otherwise, you don't know if you're started an aside that references antecedents in the previous part, or if you're heading into a related thought with a subject and verb of its own. Actually, the least confusing thing if what follows is a complete sentence may be to use a period rather than a colon.

The only thing I'm having trouble with is the passive-voice phrase "can legitimately claim to be the first" etc., since the passive voice eschews a source and lends itself to vague claims. Is it the first, or is there reasonable doubt? If a couple of credible authorities/historians can say, "Yes, it's definitely the first", let's say it. If there's doubt, it's better to say something like, "Some authorities contend it is the first", or "Some historians believe it is the first", or, my favorite, "Comics historians so-and-so and so-and-so cite it was the first". See what I'm getting

Let me know what you think of the added detail. All the best to ya, mate! -- Tenebrae 17:16, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Wrote back to you on the Half Holiday page. Hope it's food for thought. Talk with you in a few days! -- Tenebrae 19:57, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Penance

Hi Steve. Appreciate your cogent and fair arguments at the IfD for That Image, and also your turnaround. Anyway, its gone now, by fiat, which is probably just as well, so your letter to the board is moot.

Anyway, here's how you can do a good deed for penance. Editor User:Dknights411 has my special sympathy because, while trying to build articles on the NBA, was attacked by a demented and relentless vandal at 1998-99 NBA season, which is not exactly the kind of article that you would expect would have to be protected, but it was. Anyway, completely unrelated to that, he is being asked to remove the small logos of the NBA teams from the standings list.

Now, it seems to me, if anything is fair use, team logos in this use would be. The use is trivial (but useful), the teams have more or less de facto approved their use in this manner, and the teams have more or less (I think) released their use for simple promotional uses like this. But all that's just my guess.

Anyway, Since you seem to be somewhat knowledgeable about fair use, could you take a look at this, and adjudicate between Dknights and User:Ed g2s? Thanks! Herostratus 00:06, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

• No, that's fine, the truth is the truth, just wanted to check. Appreciate your help. Herostratus 08:00, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Korn's Rfc

Hi, Steve, do you think that you would be able to create a new page where discussion could take place, but not baout whether Sam was in the right or wrong, as there clearly is no consensus either way, but what Misplaced Pages's view should be on such images. If we could put a link on the Community Portal to get more people involved in the discussion so that we don't get the same situation happening again, where an admin get accused of abuse of powers. --Wisden17 11:18, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Would it be possible to have access to the deleted page, in order to transfer a number of the comments across to a new discussion, as a lot of them were not particulary relevent to the Rfc, in that they were more about Policy than about Sam's actions. --Wisden17 14:00, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi, thanks I didn't know it had been moved there. I'll get on putting a link etc. Village Pump. --Wisden17 14:27, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Portals

I rm the portals proposal from {{cent}}. Steve, I'd like you to consider this a favor. You need to spearhead the notability initiative; it's a critical issue, very important. That will take up all the time and effort you can give to it. Portals aren't drawing much interest right now and maybe that's okay. We'd like to keep cent short and targeted to active issues. John Reid 02:53, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

No, I'm not very happy about this. The portals proposal looks acceptable, and I was just about to implement it. I'm also not sure who the "we" is in the last sentence, I don't recall there ever being any problem with {{cent}} before. Steve block talk 07:18, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Steve, it's quite all right if you want to reinsert Misplaced Pages:Portal/Proposals. I don't think it's good judgement but I won't stand in your way. It's not okay that you should edit the log in the way that you have. For good or bad, I did rm that line; you chose to reinsert. I don't fight about things like this; I'd like you to do the correct thing: restore my signed edit to its original state and note your edit of the template in the log in a new section with the correct date. Thank you.

Meanwhile, let's try to be a bit more direct with our edit sums. It's less than forthcoming to say removing an incorrect statement; it might be better to say restoring Misplaced Pages:Portal/Proposals. If you feel you need to justify your action, that's what the log page is for. Personally, I don't think there's any need to squabble over it. I certainly would not challenge your reinsertion -- but on the other hand, I would never be distracted by a misleading edit sum, either.

Who is "we"? I don't think there's a "problem" with {cent} -- and I think we all would like it that way. You're included. John Reid 18:38, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Steve, do you think you can get on #wikipedia just around 0100 GMT, in about 2 hours or so? I'd like to chat. John Reid 22:50, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

No chance, I'm in GMT, and I should be in bed now, I'm just killing time until midnight at this point. That's way too late for me, sorry. Steve block talk 22:53, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

V for Vendetta

Steve - thanks for the comments. I can see why a wikilink within a ref ought to be retained. As for wikilinking each term once per section, sounds a bit bogus to me, conflicts with the guidelines at Misplaced Pages:Only_make_links_that_are_relevant_to_the_context#What_should_not_be_linked - that said, they are only guidelines, and if it helps readability then we should repeat the wikilinks I guess. --Oscarthecat 10:56, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Darwins Rottweiler

Sorry for wasting time bout that, I totally jumped the gun--KaptKos 14:03, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages Toolbar

In response to:

You recommended the wiki toolbar over at the village pump. I wonder if you can help me, I downloaded it after your comment, and on the format button the no wiki parsing doesn't work, nor do user defined formats I've tried adding. I assume that I alter the text <format>SELECTION</format> to read , and then when I click that it should insert into the window. I'm no programmer, just an average joe, so I apologise if I'm getting something simple wrong. I also apologise if you, too, are an average joe.

I'm not really a great programmer either, but I know what you mean. I'm not sure why the options on the formatting menu are checked and unchecked. The way I use it is to highlight the text in the text box, then go to the toolbar and click the option I want, which usually seems to work. I'm afraid that's about all the help I can give you. --Mets501 03:36, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I know that, but...

Hi Steve,

You are quite correct. However, that issue arose in the DRV discussion, and the consensus was to keep the cross-space link as an exception, in the manner of WP:V,... WP:foo... which redirects are also in the article space, strictly speaking. The result of keeping the redirect, but redirecting to nothing, is absurd. Either keep the redirect as an exception and let it do its job, or delete it. As I said, last I read the discussion, consensus was for the former; but, in any event, the present result (keep, but render useless) is contradictory. See what I mean? Best wishes, Xoloz 15:54, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

No worries. :) In almost any other circumstances, your superpowers would have been very helpful. I don't mind when smart people interfere! Best wishes, Xoloz 16:11, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you! Hello Hiding. Thank you for your support in my RfA! It passed with a final tally of 91/3/5. I am quite humbled and pleased by the community's show of confidence in me. If you need help or just want to talk, let me know. Cheers! -- Fang Aili

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Donkey punch (third nomination)

I deleted it because we already had three strong/speedy keep votes, and from what I read, a bad faith nomination. As you could see from the votes given, just because someone doesn't want to deal with cleaning up vandalism doesn't mean the article should be deleted. It's already had two previous nominations, the last only two months ago. As Drini replied on my talk page, "Adolf Hitler article gets vandalized often. Should we delete it because someone inserts vandalism?" If you want, you can re-open the AfD for it's full length, I won't object, but that is my reasoning for deleting it when and how I did. — FireFox • T

I never said we were talking about Adolf Hitler and don't want to get into an arguement with you about it. But, I am sticking to my desicion to close it when I did. Additionally, I don't think the amount of time an AfD has been open plays a huge part on when an AfD is closed. In my opinion, when there is a strong/obvious concensus to the debate (especially if the votes are by experienced and trusted editors), it can be closed as early as one likes. Look at those three keep votes on the AfD. They all suggest (in my opinion) that the nomination was bad faith and made with wrong reasoning, so why not close the debate? As I said, reopen it if you want. I won't object. — FireFox • T

Look, sorry I haven't got time to write a lengthy reply. I apologise for closing it when I did, perhaps it was too early. As a quick reply to what you brought up on my talk page. Firstly, I did not say the time an AfD is open does not matter, I said it doesn't play a huge part in when it is closed. I don't see in any way how I have abused the system, if you want to point some details out I'd be happy to listen and improve on that. I do believe there was an obvious concensus in the debate - we had three speedy keep votes. I've seen many AfDs been closed before with only 1 speedy vote, look through the AfD logs and you will probably find one soon enough. What would I have done if the first three votes were speedy delete? Well are we talking about this very article still, or more in general. If we're talking about this article, then of course not, because I looked at the article myself and would have seen it was not fit for deletion, if you get what I mean. If we're talking generally, then it wholly depends on the article in question. I think most people who look at the AfD would know why I closed it as speedy keep, but I will be more careful to explain in future, may I come accross any controversial voting. I normally explain why I am closing as I am when I close more controversial or sock-ridden AfDs, but I didn't find this controversial so didn't see the need. Bad faith? Ok, maybe not bad faith, but mistaken at least. A lot of the reasons written out in the (I must say well thought out and well detailed) nomination, were unfortunately a little askew. Finally, I have put the article back up for AfD, reopened the discussion, so now everyone is happy and we can get a full concensus. You'll have to wait about 12 hours for my next response if you reply to me, because it's late and I am going to bed now. Goodnight, regards, — FireFox • T

Don't worry, I totally understand what you're trying to say and apologise for closing too early. Judging by the new votes, others (Zetawoof) seem to agree that concensus had already been established but I see your point, and it's no problem. — FireFox • T

It's no problem, at least we are sure now that the concensus was to keep the article. I'm going to close the AfD in a minute, and then forget about the whole thing :) Cheers, — FireFox • T

Your reply

Thank you very much for your comments... yeah, I'm starting to realize that I was displaying most of the traits that I despise seeing in admins, and I've come to the conclusion that I would have likely voted "oppose" to my RFA if it hadn't been my own. Thanks, and we'll see how the next month or two goes--should be fun. Happy editing! Matt Yeager ♫ (Talk?) 23:28, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Minor alteration of 'Richey James Edwards' page.

Hi - I noticed you undid my minor revision of the Richey James Edwards page. I had changed the description of 'Catcher In The Rye' from a 'classic' to a 'work of genius'. I attempted this change out of respect to Salinger, who has specifically requested that critics, etc, refrain from referring to the work by the word 'classic'. No biggie I guess.

My RfA

Many thanks for your support on my recent RfA. It was successful. Thanks again, Mark83 09:00, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Restore the main portal of Malaysian expressway system

Actually I am very interest about roads, expressway and highways in Malaysia. Many highways that I used it for researching. Steve block, please restore this portal about expressway in Malaysia. Thank you! - (Aiman Ab Majid - 15 April 2006)

Re: WT:NCC

Ta. - SoM 22:55, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

memes

I updated the page based on your criticism. See talk page. Thanks for discussing this, --Urthogie 09:50, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

A pattern

Looking at this it occurs to me that it is not just disruption, but from almost the start, to the end, attacks on me including encouraging others to have a go. It really doesn't look like any sort of effort at building an encyclopaedia. You get it presented to you because two of them impinge on your kind effort to determine what a dispute might be. Midgley 16:23, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

This is now an RFC, I wonder if you might look at it? http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/86.10.231.219 Midgley 23:43, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

AfD Spam

• Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Marijuana Party candidates, 2004 Canadian federal election
• Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Christian Heritage Party candidates, 2004 Canadian federal election

There seems to be some, err, confusion as to what constitutes a precendent here and I'd like some wider input. You seem sensible, so you get spammed: There is no justice. Anyway, I'd like to hear a better reason for keeping things than "I've convinced a few other people to do so."

brenneman 05:44, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Civil War speculations?

Hi there, Steve. Could you please take a look at Civil War talk page? Am I confused? Aren't those personal interpretations and therefore speculation? I'm adopting a neutral point of view. I'm for waiting until the comic is out. Regards —Lesfer 14:11, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Good eye

...on the Graphic novel page. Nice catch of that linkspam.

Hope things are going well with you. Things have been too hectic lately for me to do much deep research, but I did add a word to Ally Sloper's Half Holiday — take a look, see what you think, and BTW, kudos on your excellent work and clear writing on that and Ally Sloper — and I just wrote a quick entry on comics artist Dick Rockwell, since it came to my attention he died last week. Also, it looks like another volunteer or two is helping us with the Inkpot Award, so I'm feeling pretty good about Comics Project articles lately. Anyway, just wanted to say hi. Best wishes, Tenebrae 05:17, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

In responce to your note...

Yes, I do think someone should mediate the issue. I requested for mediation back in February, and it was accepted. Nobody took the case, and it was later canceled by the mediation committee because they thought that I had become inactive. We do need mediation.68.192.25.106 19:08, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

To note that something can be considered vandalism, you should at least mention that you understand there was no intent, and that the grounds of vandalism is shaky to begin with. The way you stated it to me, you made it seem as if I was a vandal, a persistant one, and that I would be banned within the next 24 hours if I continued to do the same thing. You need to mention to the person that the grounds are shaky, that you know there is no intent, and that you are not going to file it against them because the is no intent. Otherwise, you will get more people like me who accuse you of abuse of power.68.192.25.106 21:09, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

List of Comic Strips

Sir, I have looked over your page and was not previously aware of how highly placed you are. My congratulations on having achieved a position of trust and responsibility with the organization. Thank you for all of your work to date. Earlier in the week, you had mentioned that you would consider splitting the page of the list of comic strips so that it could comply with the wikipedia lenghth suggestions. I am completely incompetent in this field, and would welcome someone as experienced as you addressing the matter. Thank you for all you have done and will continue to do with the wikipedia.Badbilltucker 20:28, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

How to do RFC

Yr hmble and Obd't srvnt presents http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:RFC/How_to_present_a_case for yr consideration. Feel like reading and ripping it? Please. Midgley 14:44, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Comic covers

Based on Kelly Martin's statement "A cover image should only be used to illustrate an article about that issue. Do not use a full cover image to illustrate an article about a character." , should we edit Template:Comiccover in order to remove the line saying that in fact we can use comic covers to illustrate "the copyrighted comic book character(s) or group(s) on the cover of the issue in question"? —Lesfer 17:04, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

It helped a lot. Thanks for the explanation :) —Lesfer 20:41, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Congrats

Didn't know you'd made Admin. Good show! You're shouldering a lot of volunteer work, so best wishes and Godspeed! -- Tenebrae 22:49, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Great to hear from you! I'll take a look at Portal:Comics. (Portal:Comics? CD-ROM? I can't keep up with the Wiki empire!) Best wishes, --Tenebrae 18:55, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

P.S. — Just saw Portal:Comics. This is great! Thanks for the head's-up, and I've bookmarked it for future going-to. Cheers! Tenebrae 18:58, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

DC Universe

Thanks for the info about the Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Comics information. It's not really my cup of tea since it is more for comic knowledge relative to the comic buyer. I'm just playing lightly with the idea of something more like a DC Encyclopedia. In this, we could learn about the various buildings within Gotham City, jewelry used, yadda-yadda. You get the idea. As for copying articles that already exist, yes, I'm aware. I'm just doing that temporarily until I can change it more into a formal Encyclopedia format instead of a general sort of article. Any ideas or changes would be grateful. QuintusCinna 3 May 2006

Picking your brain

Just noticed that this guy quietly moved Shikari to Shikari Lonestar when I was on WikiBreak back in January so he could insert his pet Hindi dicdef on the page, linking to a redirect (which I only noticed there because an anon's stuck a non-notable band link on the page). Given the way move requests I've been involved with seem to have gone of late, and the reasoning he's used is superfically attractive (although the character never used her full name in-comic, it was only used in a Handbook-style thing which I thought involved a misreading - although I used it on the page for completeness - so it's not obvious), I have no idea what to do. Any suggestions?

PS - I replied at Image talk:Portalcomics.png, but I'm not sure what to do. PPS - Your archive links at the top of the page are broken - you've used backslashes in the actual page titles (e.g. User talk:Steve block\Archive 4), but the links are to the forward-slash versions. - SoM 18:56, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

I just sent Shikari to AfD. Even tho AFD rarely achieves anything, it seemed like the most sensible of the options. If you want to weigh in to mention the other stuff, please do so - but I don't think it matters much until the Bollywood film, etc actually get articles.

I'll more than likely let the afd play out without my input, unless you specifically want/need it. Steve block Talk 13:39, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

I still have no idea what to do about Image:Portalcomics.png. If you think we'd get the interest required to have a contest, I have no objection, but I strongly suspect that nothing would happen.

I'll live with yours for now. It's a wiki, at the end of the day. Worst comes to the worst, I'll revert you when you're not looking. :) I'll get round to talking about this at WP:COMIC soon. Steve block Talk 13:39, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

And, User talk:Steve block/Archive 4, which is what the link at the top of this page, goes to a blank page for me (not a redirect, a "this page does not exist" page). User talk:Steve block\Archive 4 works, but it's not what's linked. Ditto the other archive links - SoM 04:26, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

That's wierd. Honestly, at my end it's ], straight up, I've just cut and pasted. I've even fired up IE and that shows the links as being right. We're talking about the archive links at the top of this page, yes? Maybe there's a problem your end? Steve block Talk 13:39, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Figured it out - yeah, it's my end - I've got the "Slashy" Firefox extension installed - which reverses backslashes in links because 99% of the time they're in error on the web. (How come you used backslashes anyway?) - SoM 19:40, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

I have no idea. I wasn't aware I had until you pointed it out. At some point I'll move them and sort it all out. I copied all the rest from the first one, which I guess I just clean and simple cocked up. Steve block Talk 19:46, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

ahahah well done

lol. --Syrthiss 16:08, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Hi there Steve. Well done indeed.;-) Say, I just realized that you didn't record your support for Xoloz in the Support section, so I made a note to the bureaucrat to watch out for that when closing. Hope this is ok.:-) Cheers —Encephalon 12:34, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Warm thanks

Thanks Steve,

By all rights, you should have been my principal nominator, since you were the first to ask, but it took quite a long time to wear my obstinacy down: secretly, no matter what RfA says, I know I'm too dumb for the job! ;) As I look to make sense of this complex wiki-world, your example will be my guide. Your kind words in supporting me meant a great deal, not in the least because we inhabit the same dark corners of the wiki that others miss -- you've probably seen me make more mistakes than anyone at Misplaced Pages, so I am honored and amazed to have your confidence. I will do my best to make you proud, but I am sure you'll have to wiki-wiffle bat me every now and then. Goodness knows, I need the help; I will likely rely on your superb abilities in my most trying moments. The benefit for you is that I stand ready to perform any menial work that needs doing! :) Your servant, Xoloz 02:29, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

David Nalbandian

No fair use rationale was provided for the image. What say you, Steve? Stanley011 23:40, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Why don't you just deal with the issue and stop trying to guess my motivations. I refer you to wikipedia's policy on assuming good faith. Stanley011 02:24, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Fair use rationale

Template:Fairuse rationale needed suggests that fair use images uploaded after 4 May 2006 are supposed to have rationales. For this, I would like to ask you why you removed Fairuse rationale needed|month=May|day=18|year=2006 from Image:Mergelogosmall.JPG while it was uploaded on 18 May 2006.--Jusjih 07:35, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Template:logo does say: "To the uploader: please add a detailed fair use rationale for each use, as described on Misplaced Pages:Image description page, as well as the source of the work and copyright information." Therefore, I disagree that my use of the template was incorrect while the template still asks the uploader to add a detailed fair use rationale. If you want to consider my action incorrect you have to blame Template:logo instead.

I have seen French Wikiquote closed for major copyright problems. Please look at the template carefully and take copyright matters very seriously if you do not want the same closure happening to English Misplaced Pages. Should it ever happen, it will hurt us very hard.--Jusjih 15:01, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Of course I didn't mean to suggest that you don't take copyright violation seriously, but how about this sentence at Template:Logo: "To the uploader: please add a detailed fair use rationale for each use, as described on Misplaced Pages:Image description page, as well as the source of the work and copyright information"? I would not tag possible deletion if that sentence were not there.--Jusjih 16:37, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Steve block

I've offered to mediate here if you'd be amenable to it. There's a section cooking on my talk already. - brenneman 00:48, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Extinctioners Page

Hey thanks for taking an interest in my Extinctioners page, please tell me what you think and what improvements you would suggest, let me know (in my discussion page) thanks

Jason Todd

Were my edits really that bad? Did I destroy other people's work, or did I do what I intended to do: streamline an awkward section of text, making it have a more NPOV like was asked for on the talk page? Please advise. I'm sick of the revert war. I just found Cheesenw's comments and actions very insulting. --Chris Griswold 09:25, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Comics template

What about using User:Steve block/X2?--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 20:20, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Category:Administrators open to recall

SPAM WARNING - quasi form letter follows! (#6)
I'm attempting to open the biggest can of worms ever. Your understanding of policy is excellent, and you seem to be a good judge of what will fly and what won't. So I'd like to hear your thoughts on the category I've just created.
brenneman 07:46, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Doom Patrol pictures

So what do I do? The pictures were avaliable for anyone, in the upload page was stated that were owned by DC comics as a comic single panel, and I didn't include them in any article. I hope that you saved the text code of my contribution, because I won't write it whole again, nor I will make a new list. KetinPorta 13:05, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

My major concern is that we are losing the oportunity if showing grafically the characters that the article is exposing. How is the proceding of all the others comics images that I have seen in wikipedia? KetinPorta 16:38, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Now I see your point. The problem is that I lack the editing skills, and I would most surely destroy the article instead of enhance it. KetinPorta 21:51, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Comics Policy Page

We have previously discussed my wanting to put up a policy page for Wikiproject Comics. My problem was that the main page just looked like an impenetrable wall of text. I've since reorganized the main WikiProject Comics page, as well as the templates page. Additionally, I have added spoiler templates to the templates page. Doing all of this, as well as looking to the WikiProject talk page has made what I want to do clear: I am going to go through the talk page archives and create a list of guidelines agreed-upon by consensus. If need be, I will summarize arguments. There are so many people editing these articles, with so many ideas about how to do that. A page like this might make it easier for an editor to have the same editing goals as the project at large. Let me know what you think.--Chris Griswold 15:58, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your comments in Lar's RfA!

We are here to build an encyclopedia!

Hi Steve, and thank you for your supportive comments in my request for adminship! With a final tally of (109/5/1), I have been entrusted with adminship. It's been several weeks since the conclusion of the process, so hopefully you've had a chance to see me in action. Please let me know what you think! Thanks again, and I will do everything I can to justify the trust you've placed in me! (Note, the advert for accountability of course doesn't apply to you since you've taken the plunge! I may crib your notice box if you don't mind... ++Lar: t/c 03:25, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Adverts: Like The Beatles?... Like LEGO?... In a WikiProject that classifies?... Are you an accountable admin?... Got DYK?...

Black Flame

Hi, as you added the clean up tag to the Black Flame entry I thought I'd drop a quick note in to say I've fiddled with it and expanded it (as part of my ongoing 2000 AD efforts) and I was wondering what else you thought was needed for this round of the clean up - I dropped a note in to the talk page so if there is anything you can drop it in there. (Emperor 00:59, 30 May 2006 (UTC))

X-Men: The Last Stand

Hiya, Steve. Things are getting very heated at Talk:X-Men: The Last Stand, with users EVula and Facto in particular throwing insults, accusations, and threats. I've initiated a mediation with the latter, but I'm not asking you to get involved. I just thought it might be helpful for an Admin to step in to the movie's talk page with a gentle reminder that we all need to be civil and assume good faith.

If I'm stepping over a line, it's purely from my own ignorance, and let my apologize in advance.

Hope all's going well with you. I guess you've heard about Alex Toth's passing. With kind regards, -- Tenebrae 21:21, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

S'cool. Thanks for getting back. Have a great time in the quaint countryside or, like, Portugal or something, where friends of mine from Tottingham sometimes fly to for a long weekend -- or France, or Amsterdam, or wherever since it's all close. Damn, it's cool to be European! Enjoy... - Tenebrae 21:02, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

A favour (Re: X-Factor)

Someone's just (in the last twenty minutes) moved X-Factor to X-Factor (superhero) because "it isn't notable enough." From the non-standard (disambig) bit, I think it's safe to say this is not a "comics guy" - and I've just checked, he hasn't bothered fixing the redirects (including double-redirects).

Could you please move this back for the nonce, and start a WP:RM on the change? If consensus goes to move to X-Factor (comics) , fine, but it should be taken "properly" rather than stuck on a non-standard page from someone else's whim - especially whenhe doesn't even know how to do a move. A RM this way round will default to leaving it on the non-standard page, and I don't want to fix the redirects three times (which it would amount to if it was successfully moved back). - SoM 00:14, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Animal-Vegetable-Mineral Man image

Per your stated preference, I've replied to your query on my user page. (God, that sounds pretentious and formal. Sounds like I've been possessed by a lawyer. Yeesh.) —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 17:17, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Category:Anti-heroes

I see that this has just been recreated by Treybien. Can it be speedy deleted? CovenantD 13:15, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Wikihalo

Okily-dokily. Didn't realize the award had such a backstory to it! In any event, please know how much I respect all your efforts and all those other things I said. Keep up the good work. (And re: the commenting-out — those were just grammatical points that didn't seem worth bothering anyone with on the Talk page, though I can always move them there if you think it's worth the effort.) Thanks again, -- Tenebrae 21:18, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Cent

Hello, I see you've recently edited {{cent}}. This is quite all right and I encourage you to help keep it current. But please don't forget to log your changes at Misplaced Pages:Centralized discussion/Template log. This will help us stay all on the same page -- no pun intended. Thank you. John Reid 21:38, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Hello

Hi, you seem to be in charge over the Comic Portal, so perhaps you could point me in a few things. I would like to contribute to comics, but at the page of the Comic Portal i feel lost. I have some knowledge over Marvel Comics, and a few other comics but not so much as with Marvel Comics(not that I am especially knowledgeable at this). If you could send me a list of articles in need regarding Marvel Comics it would be great, also looking at the List_of_marvel_comics_characters, I saw that there are some characters missing that don't have red links, and I don't know how to create articles out of nothing and putting them in that list. If you could answer me all this if you have the time, I would appreciate it very much.--Captain ginyu 22:53, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Comics terminology v. Comic book terminology

I noticed that there are two categories, Category:Comics terminology and Category:Comic book terminology. I don't really see the point of having both, and was planning to propose a category merger. But, I thought I'd check with you first (since you edited both pages recently), is there a reason these two are separated? I don't see the difference between "comics" and "comic book". --SevereTireDamage 21:58, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Deleted template

I created a template against legalising Gay marriage and it has been erased 2 times by now. I received no explanations.--R.S.ro 12:26, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!

Dude, you're great. (Just thought I'd use an Americanism you probably don't get much over there.) I've been to the overall site before, but not in a while, and that cartoonist-bio book is a terrific resource. Thank you for your thoughtfulness!

Couldn't help but notice the notice the hateful post above. Since when does an NPOV template belong anywhere? Imagie the irony: In the afterlife, these hate-spouting religious zealouts will be damned damn surprised to see they've been, well, damned! -- Tenebrae 14:36, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

your name

I randomly spotted your name since it had the word "block" in it. I saw you have never been blocked. Also as an admin, you have rarely ever blocked anyone (some admins block all the time and you seem to block less than most--and only one indefinite whereas it's popular to block any vandal indefinitely now so most are now always doing indefinite). DyslexicEditor 04:17, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

My RfA

Hello Steve block, and thanks for voting in my recent RfA, which passed with a tally of (68/19/3). I appreciated your comments, which I hope to take on board in order to gain your respect in my work as an administrator. Best of luck in your continued editing of the encyclopedia! Sam Vimes 17:51, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Did you know

Thanks for the correction about tense. I guess I didn't understand the nature of the word "first". I thought that you could say, "George Washington is the first president of the United States." --Chris Griswold 20:57, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Gibraltar

I would like to ask you a favour. Could you please have a look at the talk page and history of the article on Gibraltar. Over the past few months a number of users, including myself, have been in conflict with user:Gibnews. We feel he has taken over the page as his pet project and has imposed a NPOV pro-Gibraltarian point of view. I feel his attitude and utter refusal to acheive any form of consensus is contrary to the rules of wikipedia. He accuses everyone of Spanish propaganda even on issues which are not directly related to the Anglo-Spanish dispute over Gibraltar and reverts pretty much everything which is not written by himself. Although I am not Spanish, I sometimes wonder if I may be slightly biased towards the Spanish perspective. I do not however believe that Gibraltar should be Spanish and I try to remain as neutral as possible. I do not have a problem with Gibnew's views. I simply do not approve of his way of discarding other people's sources, opinions etc... You should perhaps consult other users for their opinions such as user:ecemaml and user:asterion.

That is why I ask you, as an English-man, to mediate or atleast give your perspective on this issue.

Please look at the talk page over the past few months. Conflict with user Gibnews seems to go a long way back.

Thankyou very much for your help. We would really appreciate it. There is nothing worse that when articles are hijacked by individuals with political agendas. --Burgas00 13:02, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Dez Skinn

Hi Steve

Just wanted to compliment your recent well-sourced edits to the Dez Skinn article.

Cheers

Vizjim 22:04, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Portal:LGBT

Thank you for your interest. The portal was created because there are a vast number of LGBT-related articles on this project. The intent is to allow a "homepage" of sorts for those with an interest in LGBT articles. Misplaced Pages:Portal/Proposals is not a policy or a requirement - and approval there is not needed to form a portal. It was there to measure interest among potential editors. Davodd 17:11, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Although I agree with the intent of the portal proposal process, I am ignoring it (in re: Misplaced Pages:Ignore all rules). The fact we have a Portal:Nintendo and a Portal:LOST with no controversy whereas Portal:LGBT is opposed only goes to show that the portal proposal process is broken, not that the viability of a portal on such a rich subject matter (LGBT studies is an accepted university subject of study) is undo-able. The rules for this particular proposal concept are broken in that they hamper the ability to use portals in their intended way. There are hundreds of LGBT-related articles scattered about Misplaced Pages in Entertainment, Sexuality, Politics, medical and other categories. This one subject area is one of the main reasons portals exist - to provide a one-stop-shop experience for easy reference of the user to find LGBT-related articles. Unless I am mistaken, the process of "applying" for the right to make a portal is so that unnecessary portals are not created - only to be deleted because they were ill-thought-out or patently unneeded i.e.: Portal:Butter or Portal:Halloween masks. The concept that one portal must wait until another, partially-related portal further develops is a classic example of instruction creep, which should be avoided in wiki projects. Davodd 19:45, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

WP:NNOT and undue weight

You've edited our proposal WP:NNOT in a way that I think implies that undue weight can be attributed to articles specifically about a minority subject. Could you comment on that perhaps under the header "Undue weight of separate articles" on the talk page for that proposal? Thanks. Fresheneesz 18:08, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages bad faith edit

OK, the change I made to the Libel policy was a bad faith edit and it stayed there for a day on an official wikipedia policy page. It said:

"However, please don't let the law on libel of persons discourage you from deliberately creating totally false articles about facts and theories. In fact Misplaced Pages policy encourages you to do this. The important things are; That you can find some sources for the fantasy, and that you didn't personally invent the falsehood."

However my point wasn't to show the limits of Misplaced Pages - infact it's another Misplaced Pages rule that you shouldn't post to make a point. The thing is, that's what I do understand Misplaced Pages policy to say - There is no rule that you shouldn't post in bad faith. This is what I would like to see. There's a policy to assume good faith in the other person but none to have it yourself. Why is there no policy to 'have good faith'? --Andrewrutherford 07:55, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

WP:MOS

Hi. I've noticed you take a active participation in the dealing and additions of policy pracitces. Regrading WP:MOS, I'm suggesting an note in the page of writing articles in the third person (using the player, the victim, one'. etc. ) as I've noticed its become a bit of problem lately that newer editors write prose as if in conversation with the reader ("you will get hurt", etc. ). Comments...? -Zero 08:45, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Responded on my talkpage. -Zero 11:22, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Batman

It's no big thing :) I agree the page needs some work, but it's a beheamoth as is and I don't think splitting it out some would be a bad idea but ... that never goes anywhere :P No offense was taken at all, and I think I got a better 'big view' of things thanks to your comments. -- Ipstenu (talk|contribs) 16:29, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Style book

You seem to know much more about the workings of Misplaced Pages than I. What is the best way for me to go about starting the WP:COMICS stylebook project as a collaborative project? If you even just want to direct me to appropriate Misplaced Pages resources, I would be appreciative. Thanks. --Chris Griswold 21:18, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Deletion of Falun Gong daughter Page

There was absolutely no consensus for deletion of the page. IT is requested that the page be restored. Dilip rajeev 13:55, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

No, friend. It was no POV fork. It was central to the article. Research into Health benefits of Tai Chi would be central to a Tai Chi article. We were working on the page and the page was being improved continuously - I dont think it was fair to delete the page. Futher how can it be claimed "there was consensus to delte the page" arent you violating wiki policy there? It is sincerely requested that the page may please be restored. Dilip rajeev 14:07, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

I am sure you dont mean to label my opinion part of some group whatever. That is you over-look all who said "Keep" and give them a label. What was POV about the research? You mean the researchers are lying? I request you to restore the page. Nobody ever wrote their POV in the article but facts/findings were reported as such. Dilip rajeev 14:26, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Friend, I really dont udnerstand what you are trying to say. Why would facts/findings of research conducted at one the nations not medical institutes be ignored? Any lawyer can "twists" policies to make a good case. Label the opinion of all editors who say its relevant as "original research".. the fork was a POV fork.. honestly none of it is a strong argument.. If reporting findings of a research is POV what is absence of POV? I request you, again, to please restore the article... Dilip rajeev 05:30, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

I chucked about your word of "consensus". You belittled all the "Keep" opinion as none. I am sure some of "Keep" opinions are only policy-related. Please read the deletion discussion carefully. Please reconsider your decision. Or at least you cannot say it is a "consensus". Fnhddzs 22:12, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Research_into_health_benefits_of_Falun_Gong on deletion review

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Research_into_health_benefits_of_Falun_Gong. Since you closed the deletion discussion for (or speedy-deleted) this article, your reasons on how or why you did so will be greatly appreciated in the above review. Fnhddzs 22:26, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Notability --> Significance proposal_Significance_proposal-2005-11-23T00:43:00.000Z">

Steve,

I came across your sorta-recent Notability proposal, and in particular was interested in the idea brought up in passing of a "word shift" from notable to significant.

Back in November last year, I had been thinking along similar lines when I posted this on What Misplaced Pages is not, as a trial balloon:

• While this may not be the place, I'd like to float the proposition that the word "notable" is at fault. We get tied up in the semantic construct of what it means to be "of note." It's a difficulty with strict definitionalism, whereas the meaning is what we're trying to eke out. The problem with "notable" is in it being a protean word, which neither "side" of the debate can define satisfactorily. Perhaps we need a different word altogether, that doesn't fall into the subjective morass of whether something is (or isn't) notable. I'd propose "significant" as an alternative term, as it has both a quantitative and qualitative value (e.g. a significant issue, a significant number.) One can more easily say that "X is more significant than Y", whereas one can have difficulty with the claim that "Y is more notable than Z." While it's still a subjective term— as all qualitative comparatives are— in my view, it's less restrictive and less definitionally loaded a term than the "Misplaced Pages:Importance" proposal. It's an established term outside Misplaced Pages used by educational, government, business and literary sources. See, for examples of usage:
• USGS Significant Floods in the United States and FEMA Significant Flood Events
• Science Fiction Book Club Most Significant SF & Fantasy Books of the Last 50 Years
• Naval Postgraduate School Chronology of Significant Terrorist Incidents

—LeFlyman 00:43, 23 November 2005 (UTC)_Significance_proposal"> _Significance_proposal">

The idea received a couple of positive responses, but wasn't pursued. I was considering revisiting the (admittedly radical) proposal for a replacement to "notability" when I came across the "Significance" link to your own efforts. During your proposal, the discussion of the shift to significance was ended by the question of "when is something significant, but not notable?" (and vice-versa). I do think there is a delineation that can be made: all things that are significant are notable, but not all notable things are significant. By that, (for example) a publication might get listed as a notable children's book, but not be significant enough to merit a Misplaced Pages entry; a contestant may be noted as a third place finisher in news about the national spelling bee, but that in and of it self isn't significant enough for an article. (However, this year, Saryn Hooks also became newsworthy after being reinstated due to a judge's error.) Often, it seems to me, that "notable" is used as a stand-in for "famous", when usage of such a term would be considered non-Misplaced Pages-correct "POV". By the same token, any bit of trivia on a subject could be called "notable", as it has been "noted" somewhere-- although it wouldn't be thought of as significant.

I'd be happy to hear your views.

Regards, --Leflyman 23:05, 3 July 2006 (UTC)_Significance_proposal"> _Significance_proposal">

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Dyslexic Agnostic

Thanks, I knew that I had forgotten to do something. :| I'm not sure if you've seen the entire drama between those two unfold, but if you have, what's your take on it? Titoxd 18:07, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

I think that the fight would just be taken elsewhere, so a two-week ban on all comics-related articles for both (with expiration coinciding with the List of Justice League episodes ban) is the safest solution. Both have been told repeatedly to stop their behavior, and it's time for the other remedies in the ArbCom case to begin applying. Titoxd 19:48, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

I surely wouldn't want to hog all the fun... ;) Titoxd 20:38, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Ok

Did you happen to notice how I moved to a different comics related issue and DA followed me there, starting and almost started an edit war by editing at the same time? I also proposed to stop the edit war and wait from concensus on the matter from the wikiproject that makes the guideline for articles of the sort.

He also emptied my talkpage and insulted me. Since my probation I've never gone to his page and the only attack that slipped from me was calling him nazi one time, (like soup nazi, nazi-like, not the serious kind). A mistake I soon acknoledged. I also showed titox how he followed me to 13 out of 14 different articles I edited on Monday. On some he did edits opposing mine, and almost all were from 20 minutes form and hour straight after mine.

I neither know his edits nor follow him. If DA monitires and undo most of my edits, and wikipedia seems to be aprooving it... should I do the same?

This banning... Does it mean that I should not go there and edit, or is it supposed to be automatic?

Also I think I spend way too much time on wikipedia, can I be blocked weekdays?--T-man, the wise 20:42, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Re:Chris Claremont

Thanks. --DrBat 22:03, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Who's harassing who? What a joke.

Thanks for your "concerned" post to my talk page. I see that T-Man can spend hours maligning me on his talk page, and this is perfectly acceptable to you as his mentor. Wonderful to know. I however spend all my time correcting his mistakes and errors, and preventing his excesses and frankly inane attemtps to create pointless cartoon wikis about TV shoes for 5-year olds, and no one does anything to support me. I complain about the defamation of my character on his page... have you looked at it lately? He obsesses about me... obsesses! And he is rude and namecalls anyone who doesn't share his unreasonable position on how articles should be written.

If you had actually checked my recent edits, you would see that I have moved on and grown up, so please don't talk to me about your mentee anymore and his debasement of the wikipedia project. He is a waste of my time and effort, as is this discussion. I leave that waste in your hands from now on. For the sake of wikipedia, however, I would hope that you have him remove the defamatory slander about me on his talk page. Dyslexic agnostic 06:06, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

More guiding, please

Hey, Steve. I never asked, what am I blocked for? I just assumed I did something wrong, but I just realized I don't exactly know.

In my defense I could say I was followed to the last page in confict and therefore clashed (I was in the middle of it when DA went there, yadayada, y'know), but the proposal of stopping the edit war (I realized I that if I reverted a hundred times he'd do it a hundred and one times, but it's hard to determine whether you are in an edit war or not) to reach concensus from the wikiproject. So I was kinda bit more rational.

The other question is what to do when the block is over. DA already "followed" me there, knowing him he would also follow me if I go to other articles, but once he has done it and edited more than once he tends to get a little more "territorial" about it and his edits will tend to be bolder against mine. A guy in the wikipedia: wikiproject tv episodes, with apparent trustworthy authority said I can put the the wikiproject article the naming guideline as I suggested it, and I just did it yesterday, so I guess the BTAS episode subarticles can be named my way without the parenthesis clarification when there is no disambiguation needed... But I'm afraid the clashes will continue there and wherever I go, 5minutes to 12 hours after I edit. I don't know what to do. --T-man, the wise 02:57, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

I just readed above my comment

And Ialthou I don't think (or know if) you were appointed as my mentor. Contraire to what once wrongly stated from my gut, you have the ability to understand what I complan about. Further than that, you see the exact point in previous mistakes of mine when I went wrong. That's quite handy to avoid repeating those, so your mentoring is very welcomed.

I recently realized that avoiding adjetives it's not only a rule to write a good article, but a rule to succeed in talk pages and avoid offending people. I think the excess of adjetives I use is often interpreted as attacks by most people... Besides adjetives tend to cause reverse psicology. If I state something is black, people is going to question it and start checking if that's not actually really dark blue. But if I question its color, everybody is probably going to sceam black.--T-man, the wise 03:15, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

About "I must advise you to seek consensus on issues and to respect that consensus, even when you disagree with it".

I feeled weird when that happen, and din't know what to do. There are higher rank articles (the wikiprojects,t hat's where I got the tables, tags and infoboxes from) about how to do what I was doing (impliying that articles per episode was already a common thing to create) and there are already thousends of those about "more important" and "less important" TV series, so I guessed consensus from that specific episode list page wasn't really needed. I felt with such justification consensus wasn't even require. Why doing consensus about something a hundreds of lists of episodes and hihger rank pages already decided? --T-man, the wise 03:36, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

WP:PKMN

Sorry, man, my bad. When I wrote the essay, I tried and tried but couldn't find who had come up with the idea originally. I'll put that in the essay right away. Matt Yeager ♫ (Talk?)

secret identity?

I don't know if that can work; there are several characters whose real names aren't 'secret identities', or they just don't have a superhero/villain alias in the first place. --DrBat 00:37, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Thor (Marvel Comics) copyvio revert

Thanks for looking into the copyright issue on Thor (Marvel Comics). Quick question: now that you've reverted it to before User:Soujaboy's copy/paste from marvel.com, is it all right if I remove the copyvio tag so we can begin updating/editting this article again? If it's still being investigated, that's fine and of course I won't touch the page until that's done, just curious. Again, thanks for looking into the problems there. -Markeer 16:45, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for clarifying the rules on the Thor talk page, and setting up the temp. Once again I appreciate you taking care of all this. -Markeer 20:11, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

consensus

although I do believe consensus isn't needed since such strong guidelines back me up, and I've stated so. I never went against it. But I pushed my boundaries as much as I could. I feel some editors have problems distinguishing between not agreeing (nd stating so) with consensus and acting against it.

Another confusing issue is that I always do whatever the consensus didn't cover. For example, when the consensus seemed to be turning against ALL the episode articles, I revers SOME episode articles. then the ones that are not stubs, and so on. Still I feel like some people think speaking agains the consensus is the same as acting against it.--T-man, the wise 10:13, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Falun Gong

I've been trying to informally mediate this one for a while now, since I don't have the personal investment that every other editor on the article does. I'm grateful for the assistance of another person who isn't involved on a personal and emotional level, but I have to ask why you decided to visit this article and attempt to help. Curiosity, really. We've already seen about four or five different admins wander by, try to help, get bitten (as you just did) and wander off again. I don't want you to be another casuality of the fervent belief that motivates the other editors. I appreciate your work too much ;-) CovenantD 12:46, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Re Don't hijack votes

I am very sorry and apologiz/se if I have inadvertently offended you here. I have left a reply to your post titled as above and hope you do not feel it assumes anything other than good faith.
Sincerely, David Kernow 17:15, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Follow-up: Have just read and responded to your recent query here. Yours, David 17:30, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm afraid of losing the tables

If DA follows me around one more single time I'll need to re-open some tables (also cleaning it up so that the ecidence speack for itself). I'm also a little concern about some little issue. DA vandalized my page and his punishment was for only 24 hours, that's fine. But I strongly feel I've been blocked more time for smaller faults. This is very hard to explain, I find reasonable the way DA was punished (well, maybe a week would have been nicer), however his action against me was uncalled for, when the cause of some past blockings I had where a lighter effect of DA following me around. Before you editors strongly denied he was following me, and when he finally admited it then they denied to recognise it was unfear to me. Meanwhile it was kinda weird to see all the other blocked users were vandals and I was the only one banned for a "personal attack" (ignoring it was rather not that big deal, defensive and not offensive, and no striong word either). Man, I don't know what am I trying to tell you, I just thing other editors didn't se the situation as resonably as you do and I'm afraid that if I lose the table to monitor DA's stalking, the situation is going to turn bad again. I'd like to create a more objetive table, maybe develop an objetive registration system that could even help other stalked users in the future. A table where X user regiter Y user's ativities bothering him in a way admins can read it and clearly determine whether there is ir isn't talking. Ideally the description of the harassment acts should be brief, cool and not offensive to the user Y, the evidence speaking for itself, the stalkee only nominate acts as vandalims and after certain amount of evidence gathered, admins could judge for themself.--T-man, the wise 06:07, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, Steve, for getting T-Man to remove his obsessive stockpile of vandalism against me from his talk page(s). I really appeciate it. Any efforts by the boor to obsess more by making more tables should be dealt with swiftly and harshly, imho. I therefore have no need to post further to his talk page, since my repeated efforts at niceties are lost on the ignorant. Thanks again... I will likely continue a small wikibreak. -- Dyslexic agnostic 08:16, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

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