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Kafkasmurat appears to be violating AE ban

Kafkasmurat is under an AE for WP:AA2. Part of his ban states: "if any uninvolved administrator believes Kafkasmurat makes a personal attacks they may block Kafkasmurat pursuant to the standardized enforcement provision." In the past 24 hours, the user has been making several personal attacks towards various users:

• You can express your hatred in related articles but Turkey is irrelevant.
• When the user of whom the personal attacks were addressed to removed it under (Personal attack removed), Kafkasmurat edit-warred (which he is also not allowed to do under his topic ban) to have the accusation reinstated ()
• And stop childish swearing.
• You're offensive Étienne Dolet (talk) 22:00, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

User:Dr.K. called me "stupid" and i told him to stop swearing. I'm not attacking anybody. I intended to say hate speech. "You" meant "anyone" there, as User:Dr.K wasn't saying it in the article--Kafkasmurat (talk) 22:03, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

I never called this user stupid. He started edit-warring on my talk leaving clueless accusations of COI and other assorted personal attacks after I challenged his attempt at whitewashing the mention of the Armenian Genocide from the article on Turkey. After his onslaught on my talkpage, I told him to leave his stupid accusations out of Misplaced Pages, which is simply a fair representation of what they are. Δρ.Κ.  22:09, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

This is not true. Dr.K. started with laugh off my ideas. He made up a personal attack, that i was intending to say "anybody" as he's not involved in the article, and started threatening me. I couldn't revert him anymore, so i reported him and informed at talk page. He even reverted this too. He started, reverted 9 times and patronized me. Calling me stupid is one another debate. --Kafkasmurat (talk) 22:21, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

They've been blocked by another admin, when I've got some time I'll have a look in detail and consider whether this rises to the level of a topic ban (as suggested in the AE sanction). Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 04:27, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

I think what I might do is leave it without the topic ban and just stay with the personal attack parole, if they make personal attacks please report to me or AE, and include a link to the sanction template I left on their talk page (so other admins know about it). Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 11:35, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

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Due to your involvement in Homosexuality and Roman Catholicism article, I invite you to an arbitration request discussion. Please write your statements in your own section, and reply to other people's statements in your own section. --George Ho (talk) 01:44, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

this is beyond ridiculous

See here please and note the section following, which the hostile POV editor who has changed a mediation discussion into a 'Get Skookum1' witchhunt-vote call redacted and called, in true NPA style typical of him, a "rant"; he claims I'm harrassing him, which is just pot-kettle-black as his whole role there is harrassing me. And note also my comment about the bugbear claims about WP:V which have gone on too long and provoked my increasing frustration with that editor, who has done nothing with that article or the sources I've provided there while the last weeks of board-warring has gone on; see my own work in the meantime here, in the last few sections and here, again in recent sections and of course my usercontributions. I get accused of "walls of text" and worse while he does far more than I ever have, and has bludgeoned merge discussions e.g. see Talk:Indo-Canadians#Merge discussion and note my comment about that on Talk:Indo-Canadians in British Columbia#Merge discussion and note that that article was POV fork created by him to prevent me from moving Indo-Canadians in Greater Vancouver to and that there is so much overlap between the two that any separation of them is original research based on his own biases and an OWN bhaviour about "ethnicity-by-city titles"....so much more to say and so much more than Moonriddengirl has seen fit to investigate while claiming that calling him "ill-informed" is an NPA, even though his whole drift in all his board warring has been AGF/NPA against me, as if I were a liar or hoaxer; and he is ill-informed and seems to want to stay that way. One thing that's not going on is good faith, and NPA as usual is being used as a weapon in ANI, including gross exaggerations like Arthur Rubin's just now.

I know you're a busy man, but pinged you and brought this here as blocking me from Misplaced Pages serves no purpose at all other than to vindicate the POV axe-grinders whose own behaviour needs looking into; and Legacypac is, to me, a propagandist and troll of the first order, and now acting as nothing more than a trouble-maker....and should not have started teh vote call at all; and was supposed to not confront and disengage from me per the previous ANI closed "no result" by User:Wifione, which is linked in the redacted/moved section.

How many guidelines are being broken all at once by this witchhunt and WMT's ongoing board-warring? Too many. and they're often stated as if they were "policies" when they're not. It's very disturbing to me that he has admin status, but a case in point of what's wrong with the adminship system. That I'm being nailed to the cross for having to confront outrageous POV/OWN and WoT behaviour by another editor is typical of my experience with ANI; to be blocked from the history of my own province because of someone intent on censoring it from outside the country is just so wrong and also so wrong is the strange tolerance for non-sequitur and anti-guidelines behaviour by people with very clearly partisan/biased agendas/behaviour.

I think and am asking that that vote-call and ANI be shut down as unproductive, unconstructive and also out of order; and that WhisperToMe's false claims and assertions about what WP:V "requires" needs to be told off, and then some. He's intent on maintaining the narrative his preferred sources mandate, flawed vs facts and other sources as they are, by trying to find grounds to even delete talkpage mentions of sources he's never looked at, doesn't want to, and which contain issues and events that should be in the article; but to him it's "his" article and I'm just some angry old white guy whose personal knowledge of sources and history doesn't matter squat. Is he improving the article and open to collaboration? No and that's the the problem that led to the ANI-cum-witchhunt. That he actually went and researched hostile editors and pinged/recruited them is another case in point of ANI's contrarian nature/environment.Skookum1 (talk) 08:09, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Well a few points for you, some things for you to consider which hopefully might help:

• That is a wall of text, instead of writing all of that and at the same time complaining about walls of text. Instead could you have just pointed me to the ANI section?
• One of the things you've been 'accused' of is being combative, being objective as you can I suggest you look at your own edits, just on ANI and here and let me know if you think you have been.
• What edit of Arthur Rubin's are you referring to? I can't see anything I'd call a "gross exaggerations"
• I also can't find many personal attacks in the section, and definitely from one 'side' over the others. Can you give me diffs of them, see if you can find personal attacks about you (that others have made) or that you have made about others.

Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 11:21, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

• 1) sorry I should have parag-breaked every few sentences; it's impossible to write simple statement re complex, intertwined issues/behavioural claims/b.s.

• 2) being combative comes from standing up to the full truth, and challenging false claims about what guidelines are claimed to say; if a good man does nothing etc..... and it's WhisperToMe that's being combative, per two dozen extremely lengthy board/talkpage discussion/bludgeonings to resist anything I say, and now to seek censorship of even mentions of events and sources containing them he doesn't want to admit to or acknowledge of even try to look for. I stand up to someone else's combativeness, as before with Kwami, and I'm the one who gets crucified for it; Maunus' erwsthile ANI was launched out of malice and contained endless false allegations; I'm not the only one who sees this about all these, but most people stay out of ANI because of the inherently contrarian/hostile and often cult-like behaviour of the kangaroos who show up to join court.

• 3) Arthur Rubin: as one of the dozens of editors who have clashed with Skookum1 on thousands of talk pages. There are only fourteen exchanges between him and me, including this current one. And note, on the mass or RMs a number of months ago, they were closed in "my" favour (restoring long-standing consensus and common sense) other than the Rivers CfD that he opined in that BrownHairedGirl started no sooner had my block she launched without consensus to do so, during which she went and hostile-closed while she had me blocked, in the opposite direction to all the rest closed in "my" favour, and misquoted/misused guidelines in her catty closing comments.

A big problem in Misplaced Pages is people with hostile attitudes towards individual editors taking part on such discussions which should be about the subject and not about the nominee; but somewhere in the guidelines it says "if you are not familiar with the subject, you should not be taking part in discussions about it". Sadly, that's what happesn with RMs, AFDs and CFDs, as there are people who spend most of their time, it seems, looking for things to denounce, and few look into the background either of the topic, or of t he dispute. The entire place is built on NPA as an institution, in my opinion (and also that of others who shall remain nameless....or who have left Misplaced Pages because of such problems/attitudes/behaviour)

• 4) Legacypac's comments and pushing the voting section are inherently NPA attacks; and all of WhisperToMe's stonewalling and quarrelsomeness with me has been AGF from the start, with the very uncivil subtext behind all of it that I am lying about what's in the sources; there are NPAs in the comments in that ANI, some of them soft-pedalled but meaning the same thing as an outright condemnation/attack. NPA isn't always about calling someone a dickhead or an asshole or a "problem" - speaking of which "behavioural problem" is itself an NPA; stop and think about it; that's a putdown for a child or someone in prison.....

I'll try and take some time tomorrow (its' coming up on 8pm here in Cambodia) to particularize those diffs/phrases/comments...the main AGF issue here is WhisperToMe's ongoing attempt to denounce me and brand my mentioning of sources and events he's hostile to having in the article as "original research". He's being extraordinarily disruptive by his mass of such diatribes against me; I've only linked you two of them

• 5) you didn't reply re WMT's claims on the OR board about what he maintains WP:V means, which it says nothing about. Last night I was investigating the origins of MOS and came across a subpage that directly confounds what he says; like the others who have fought me he is cherrypicking guidelines and conflating them while also conflating sources to build his SYNTH vision of British Columbia ethnic history; a place he has no direct knowledge of, and denounces me for saying that I do.

• 6) there are issues with who Legacypac is and where his main editing/warring focus has been; and that User:Paleking who turned up out of nowhere appears to be in a conflict of interest he has not declared re this undeletion request re Systems Security Certified Practitioner of which he is a member (see his userboxes). Now, not incidentally, I saw that acronym go by on a document last night about the American security state as being connected to/funded by the NSA. Given the security-state/anti-terrorism agenda that is clear from Legacypac's usercontributions in-line with security-state media manipulations re the Ottawa shootings and countless others...

the further military/security presence doesn't strike me as innocent; just as the IP users who tried to get me blocked because I resisted their overtly POV changes to that article were not innocent; and in one of the items linked re Arthur Rubin and myself, you'll find the curious case of an IP user making POV/censor edits on the Gordon Campbell (Canadian politician) article

Similarly a mining consultant with links to OSAC, part of the Dept of Diplomatic Security, took part in another "combative" page Talk:Mount Polley mine disaster where efforst were being made to distort/delete the truth...which he has also done on certain mining pages where human rights violation material was deleted or downplayed.

"Get Skookum1" is what's going on there, quite frankly, and not for honest reasons, and by rank hypocrites who themselves have been called to the carpet more than once for combative activity (Legacypac); I'm not being paranoid, I know what I'm seeing...and know that none of the people condemning me have any interest in the subject matter or the article in question; other than WhisperToMe, who wants me blocked or topic-banned from my own province's history, where I'm involved in countless articles that his content is at odds with; the votes coming in are just hostiles passing judgment based on their own presumptive ignorance and hostility towards me; to me they're a thinly-veiled character-assassination squad and nothing more.

I'll leave off, but please go look at the OR board link; I've spent too much time on this today, and the last few weeks, and though have produced and expanded articles and lists/descriptions of relevant sources in the meantime, would have done a lot more if not for having to defend myself against the wolfpack howling for blood....and not one of them has any interest in the topics that I have been combatted against by WMT. Apparently defending yourself, and the truth, is being "combative" while those actually waging and launching such wars are enabled and even endorsed; even though they (WMT) have no ideae what they're talking about, and have been unCIVIL towards me from the very start. But nobody says or does zip, and that OR board bludgeoning is his own soapbox; as with teh Indo-Canadian merge discussion linked above he posts so much and so repetitively that nobody, not even RfCs he recruits, have any idea what it's about........nor does he, quite frankly.Skookum1 (talk) 13:13, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

There are major connectivity problems here in Cambodia so haven't been on Misplaced Pages much; when doing so trying to focus on article/talkpage comments/resources and ignoring legacypac's witchhunt-vote; see my changes to his redactions and fiddling with the vote area that IMO is "illegal and out of order". As on this post and this one, what's someone who has open ANIs against himself on teh same page doing redacting/editing the ANI board at all? I can't be bothered with more of this game of bait-and-block, but do think that something like CHECKUSER be used to determine who he really is, as it's very strange that a property developer would spend 98% of his time pushing terror-themes and warring over same all day long.

Nothing innocent about that vote call...and what's he doing removing MY vote" and putting it somewhere, with negative edit comments to boot? Seems like WhisperToMe is not the only one who's been ignored behaviour-wise while, as Viriditas points out, this is not a court of law, and I am not required to respond; I've been busy researchin articles and content towards same; what's he been doing? A glance at his usercontributions will tell you that easily enough. WhisperToMe has at least shown signs of listening to my corrections of his preferred source's egregious mistakes, as per recent edits on Indo-Canadians in British Columbia demonstrate; I see no effort at all by anyone to comment on his claims about WP:V on the OR board.....but damn do they ever like to dogpile on me huh?

my plan, internet connectivity conditions permitting, is to get at the many bios needed explored on the talkpage of that article......and to enlist input and citations from the communities in BC that this "colonization of our history" by "outside forces" is much in need of; blocking me would only keep the terror-propaganda lobby happy; it's not even what WTM wants. Nor a lot of other people who respect my input and knowledge and aren't out to persecute me for disagreeing with them (that includes Arthur Rubin, whose "thousands" of disputes with me turned out to be less than 14....re a CfD he kibbitzed on but know nothing about at all). Digging a little deeper into our exchanges, he'd commented in hostile fashion on an IP user from Minnesota who had made a POV edit on the article about

I have decided

To never ever be an admin here. -Roxy the dog™ (resonate) 14:22, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Why's that? Feel free to email if you'd prefer. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 05:04, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

No no, no need to email or anything like that. I can't remember what led me to this page in this instance, but I had just read the thread above this, and needed to comment. This was my response to how I felt about Admins having to deal with stuff on behalf of us users ! -Roxy the dog™ (resonate) 14:11, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

Tban expiration?

Hi Callanecc, I just wanted to confirm that per this ArbCom ruling that my 6 month Topic Ban has expired. Lightbreather has gone forward at started in on the Gun show loophole controversy article. I just want to double check before I make similar edits. Best regards and a belated Happy New Year, --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 21:08, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Yep it's has expired, but you need to be careful in the future as if similar behaviour occurs again the TBAN will likely be indefinite. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 05:02, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

I like to think I've learned my lesson. If nothing else, I'm much more knowledgeable and experienced in the ways of the site and the Misplaced Pages community at this point. Best regards, --Scalhotrod (Talk) ☮ღ☺ 08:45, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

Your help is appreciated

Hi, Callanecc. Would you please help me reformat an SPI case which ended up in a wrong please? On 9 August 2014 you blocked Wikirun 20 (talk · contribs) with an expiry time of indefinite for being the sock-puppet of COD T 3 (talk · contribs), who was blocked as the sockmaster on 6 August 2014 by Tiptoety. The list of socks of COD T 3 includes new accounts not dealt with and engaging in edit-wars, personal harassment and blatant vandalism more recently. The situation is out of control due to temporary delay regarding the outcome of the Sockpuppet investigation which I filed under the wrong name. My mistake was the result of deceptive tactics by new account E-960 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) who is now under investigation. I was tricked by him into believing that he is connected to WKS Śląsk Wrocław (talk · contribs · logs) and therefore I filed an SPI case under Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/WKS Śląsk Wrocław, but shortly thereafter I found evidence of mass disruption by E-960 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) which led me back to Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/COD T 3. I would like to move my report from Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/WKS Śląsk Wrocław#06 January 2015 to Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/COD T 3#January 2015 where it belongs. Your time and help is greatly appreciated. Poeticbent talk 21:59, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi Poeticbent thanks for submitting the investigation, we generally usually leave them where especially if a page history already exists so that we don't have impossible to follow log entries to deal with. Best thing to do is to continue presenting evidence where at the current location and we can go from there. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 05:08, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

Special:AbuseFilter/597

Been many months since it's had any hits. Okay to disable? — MusikAnimal 23:38, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, done. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 04:56, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

Sphinx

Extend PC time? The protecting administrator is inactive at this point. --George Ho (talk) 01:57, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

 Done Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 04:55, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

When 2 DS are involved

1. If there are two DS applicable to one article, does one take precedence over the other? Example - A PS-Fringe DS vs a BLP DS.
2. If an editor has violated both how is that handled?
3. If an AE has already been initiated against an editor, can a separate AE be initiated against that same editor for the same reasons but involving a different incident? Atsme☯ 04:36, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

Re:

1. No, it's whether the enforcing admin decides to use or the one best fitted to the situation.
2. The list both or pick the most applicable one.
3. Just add a statement with your additional evidence, noting that it is for the same reasons but more evidence.

Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 05:00, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

Zeitgeist (film series) controversy

Hi Callanecc,

Thank you for temporarily protecting the Zeitgeist (film series) page, however, it doesn't look like anyone's behavior has changed or will change, and I don't know what to do about it. The main issue is WP:Disruptive Editing. One user is in his third ANI, but it's not looking good that he'll be topic banned. And even if he is topic banned, he is only part of the problem. In a Request for Comments most editors seem to be openly negatively biased against this topic. The WP:DISRUPTSIGNS of tendentious editing, not engaging in consensus building, and campaigning to drive away productive contributors has no end in sight. Here you can see two editors essentially admit they don't care about building an encyclopedia.

While I am continuously pushing to maintain and encourage civility and neutrality, I only succeed in getting my edits reverted based on accusations of sock puppetry, accused on talk pages of POV-pushing, ban evading, and sock/meat puppetry, and I get stonewalled in my attempts at consensus building. I've even had someone strikeout all my comments and then submit me to SPI. All of this based on ZERO evidence. EVERYTHING I've done has been about neutrality and trying to improve the quality of this article to help build a better encyclopedia.

How am I supposed to respond to these insane disruptive editors? I've been researching wikipedia policies, and I don't think there are guidelines for dealing with a group of crazy disruptive people.—68.7.95.95 (talk) 11:30, 16 January 2015 (UTC), edited 68.7.95.95 (talk) 23:54, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Well not calling them insane or crazy is a good start. I'll keep an eye on the article and talk page. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 06:07, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

You're right. I apologize, and I've corrected myself. I do not use such words when communicating with these editors and I should not have done so now. I appreciate your attention.—68.7.95.95 (talk) 23:54, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Continued edit warring

Hey Callanecc, the editors you warned about edit warring over at American Horror Story: Freak Show have resumed their edit warring. One even removed your warning from their talk page. Are you able to issue the blocks and save me from having to write up an entire spiel over at the 3RR noticeboard? Gloss 22:04, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Please advise...

Callan, since you are overseeing the BLP sanctions at Griffin, will you please advise me as to what I should do about the following very rude and uncalled for statement? Thank you Atsme☯ 02:10, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

Well, it is pointing out that you aren't doing very well attempting to change the content to unnacceptable POVness at the Griffin BLP, and suggests you find another article to edit. Good advice I venture? -Roxy the dog™ (resonate) 09:32, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

The relentless unfounded allegations and repeated criticisms from Roxy, JzG and a handful of other editors are not helpful, and quite tiresome. There is an unmistakable bias against Griffin which is well evidenced by the WP:SQS attempts and spurious comments I have endured over the past 45 days. The WP:PA and WP:BLP violations are also quite evident in JzG's use of a derogatory template on Griffin Talk and his disparaging comments, the most recent of which is WP:BULLYING. His behavior is the result of my suggestions in the TP discussions to improve and expand Griffin as a BLP, despite relentless criticisms and PA from him and a few other editors who have made known their bias. Neither JzG, Roxy, nor any of the other editors who have critical of my suggestions have offered even one counter-proposal to improve/expland the article. Such behavior flies in the face of what WP:CONSENSUS and WP:COLLABORATE encourages.

There has not been one diff or RS to support the criticisms and allegations against me which is a violation of the prohibition against casting aspersions on others per WP:NPA. For example, the team work of JzG and Roxy in the removal of my undue tag. Roxy expressed agreement to JzG's allegation that it gives undue weight to a single opinion (that of Atsme) and it is abundantly clear by now that this is motivated in no small part by desire to advance a WP:FRINGE idea, the quack cancer treatment known as laetrile without providing one iota of actionable evidence for such a serious accusation of misconduct.. The same applies when Roxy responded to my suggestions with the following statement: "Disruptive and tendentious, unhelpful and untrue in regard to laetrile.". That PA was based on my comment that I have not/do not object to including the views of government agency supported descriptions and/or conclusions of laetrile, etc. My objection is to the use of this article as a WP:Coatrack to advocate, debunk, and/or promote. This article is about Griffin, and laetrile happens to be the topic of ONE of his books. And let's not forget about the ongoing Survey and its ill-formed question about referring to Griffin as a conspiracy theorist when the true question should have read calling him a conspiracy theorist in Wiki's voice, or stating it as an opinion using "refers to". Why are we not seeing suggestions, other than my own, to improve/expand the article so it will at least pass a GA review? Those editors who believe JzG is giving such good advice, then how about the following in his edit summary to me - now would be a good time to shut up? Atsme☯ 17:33, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

Indefinite Semi-protection

Hi,

Could you please indefinitely semi-protect Delhi article because it has been vandalized by numerous IPs and its very difficult to monitor.--♥ Kkm010 ♥ ߷ _{♀ Contribs ♀} 13:36, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

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