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    User:192.43.227.18 reported by User:Escape Orbit (Result: 1 month)

    Page
    Visa requirements for British Overseas Territories Citizens (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported
    192.43.227.18 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
    Previous version reverted to
    Diffs of the user's reverts
    1. 01:47, 16 February 2015 (UTC) "Undid revision 647152815 by Twofortnights (talk)"
    2. Consecutive edits made from 01:54, 16 February 2015 (UTC) to 02:24, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
      1. 01:54, 16 February 2015 (UTC) "Undid revision 647152815 by Twofortnights (talk)"
      2. 02:24, 16 February 2015 (UTC) "/* Visa requirements */"
    3. 16:16, 16 February 2015 (UTC) "Did you even care to read the reference/sources before you removed the edit? Please learn to check, or I will report you."
    Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning


    Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page


    Comments:

    IP editor has been blocked twice already this year for same behaviour and is currently involved in edit warring over three articles. Escape Orbit 17:04, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

    I was about to report this user myself.

    Diff of my 3RR Warning:

    Further reverts: , (I think that makes 4 in 24 hrs)

    Additional follow up in talk:

    Various replies to warnings and attempts to discuss with the guy: ,

    Lack of good faith:

    Basic problem with the edit, is he relies on interpreting one primary piece of legislation, the 2002 Act, whilst ignoring the multiple other acts that preceded it, which had impacts on some territories not others and so there is some variance in citizenship right by territory. WCMemail 19:04, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

    User:Collect reported by User:Nomoskedasticity (Result: )

    Page
    Breda O'Brien (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported
    Collect (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
    Previous version reverted to
    Diffs of the user's reverts
    1. 23:00, 16 February 2015 (UTC) "per actual source - we would not wish to mislead readers, I trust" (repeats component of edit at 12:46)
    2. 12:46, 16 February 2015 (UTC) "/* Career */ radio shows without transcripts do not meet WP:RS and the source you give says she supports civil unions - which should therefore be mentioned" (removes reference added earlier today by other editor, after it was restored by a third editor)
    3. 08:22, 16 February 2015 (UTC) "first source says civil partnerships are ok, second lacks a transcript so is not much use at all" (removes reference added earlier today by other editor)
    4. 05:17, 16 February 2015 (UTC) "/* Career */ and your specific source other than the fact she generally supports that Church?" (reverts immediately preceding edit)
    5. 23:38, 15 February 2015 (UTC) "/* top */ we already have supports church teachings - how many should we enumerate?" (reverts immediately preceding edit)
    Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page
    https://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Breda_O%27Brien#Radio_interview_reference (no participation from Collect)
    Comments:

    Am I missing something? It seems that Collect is 100% correct in applying WP:BLP. Do I detect a WP:Boomerang headed somewhere else? WCMemail 23:14, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

    Oh please -- no edit summary here tries to claim that there was a BLP violation that needed dealing with (thus reverts exempt from 3RR) -- and it's a good thing that no such claim was made, because there were no BLP violations. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 23:17, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
    • Comment Collect seems to have been correctly applying BLP policy and have come to consensus on the page. Removing an IP's innacurate material at a BLP does not constitute 3RR violation. Capitalismojo (talk) 23:21, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
      • Do you think it's "inaccurate" that O'Brien opposes gay marriage? You're wrong about that -- see the article and the source it gives. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 23:25, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
      • Um, not as simple as that. Collect removed the IP's comment about opposing same-sex marriage, but that was then restored and sourced by two other editors (including a checkuser and oversighter!). He then switched to accepting that comment (so the IP was right) and adding other material to tone down the part he had to accept . Whilst I've no particular wish to see him blocked, this isn't a BLP issue in any shape or form. Black Kite (talk) 23:28, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
    Um -- "unsourced" does not mean "well it was sourced later" -- WP:BLP requires removal of such unsourced material - and note that the actual claim substantiated by the source stated that she approves of civil partnerships. Cheers. Collect (talk) 23:38, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
    That's what I'm saying really, the first edit wasn't a problem but I think it's stretching BLP to say it's a requirement to add material to dampen a sourced criticism. But anyway, I don't think this is actionable on that basis. Black Kite (talk) 23:41, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
    I agree this isn't actionable. Someone please sentence this. WCMemail 23:48, 16 February 2015 (UTC)


    Last diff was a correction of a hit-and-run IP edit made to the lead with an unsourced claim. As such, it was removable. Same with the 15 Feb edit - unsourced IP edit of a BLP. made a specific claim which was unsourced. Again unsourced claims in a BLP are not protected last I looked.

    Claims made in a BLP which are actually totally unsourced are removable, as the OP here knows. Bastun and I reached an accord on adding "and supports civil unions" as being what the source provided states. Which is how editing is supposed to occur on BLPs - not drive-by claims with not even a fig-leaf of a source provided.

    Two of the edits were reverts or modifications of IP edits which were unsourced or poorly sourced. Three were in the proper goal of reaching proper claims properly supported. The OP did not post to my UT page until he made the complaint here, else I would have explained that WP:BLP requires removal of unsourced claims in the first place. Collect (talk) 23:24, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

    Only the first edit removes something added by an IP (something which in any event was eminently verifiable, as per a source subsequently added). The others either remove a source (with a bogus rationale) or add your own material. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 23:27, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
    Actually the first was specifically required by policy. The last did not remove anything - it added what the source said - I find it amazing that you seem to appear on a great many articles I have edited. Failure to accurately use a source for a claim is, IMO, pernicious. By the way, you appear to think a source which is a radio program sans transcript is a valid source for a contentious claim. I demur, and saying my position is "bogus" ill suits you here. Collect (talk) 23:36, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

    Only two of these can be called BLP support in any conceivable way. The rest are adding uncited material or removing obviously reliable sources (the RTÉ interview is doubly reliable as it's an interview with the person used in their bio, from a source that's also reputable in itself). Collect has been told time and again that "BLP" is not a catch-all for any edit he wishes to make. –Roscelese (talkcontribs) 00:31, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

    No. There is no transcript. It is a problematic source. Capitalismojo (talk) 00:42, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
    What policy says that? It's policy that reliable sources that not all users can access (eg. paywalled) are still reliable. If a user can't or doesn't want to listen to the interview, the source is not disqualified - and I say this as someone who hates using audio or video sources. –Roscelese (talkcontribs) 00:44, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

    Collect acted appropriately. The problem is with the OP who has demonstrated an inability to fully grasp the meaning of strict adherence as it relates to WP:BLP. Atsme 01:21, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

    • Even if one discounts the first revert, there is still a violation of 3RR here. Removing a source is not correction of a BLP violation. Nor is adding the text (in reverts 4 and 5) correction of a BLP violation -- even if one considers inclusion of that text desirable, there was no need for Collect to edit-war it into the article. The correct action here was for Collect to make his case on the talk page and gain consensus from other editors. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 18:23, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

    There is absolutely no requirement for a transcript, Roscelese - what WP:RS actually states is: "The term "published" is most commonly associated with text materials, either in traditional printed format or online. However, audio, video, and multimedia materials that have been recorded then broadcast, distributed, or archived by a reputable party may also meet the necessary criteria to be considered reliable sources. Like text sources, media sources must be produced by a reliable third party and be properly cited. Additionally, an archived copy of the media must exist. It is convenient, but by no means necessary, for the archived copy to be accessible via the Internet."

    Nor does BLP arise here. What is contentious, in any way, about a well-known Roman Catholic columnist being opposed to same-sex marriage? Collect does not refer to BLP at all in the 2015 removals, and admits in edit summary: "we already have supports church teachings - how many should we enumerate?" It's actually quite ironic; O'Brien complains (in that radio interview and elsewhere) that being opposed to same-sex marriage is a perfectly reasonable view to hold and promote, but that anyone espousing that view is instead now branded as a homophobe; then Collect - who seems to feel the need to "defend" O'Brien's good name from what they're perceiving as an attack - removes the statement that O'Brien opposes same-sex marriage...

    All of that said - minor 3RR violation, no longer ongoing. A warning would be sufficient. Bastun 12:56, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

    I do not "defend" anything except WP:BLP and I suggest you look at my Johann Hari edits and try to reconcile that with your implicit accusation of bias on my part. Cheers. Collect (talk) 21:15, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
    No, I'm not familiar with that article, or the issue it addresses, and I fail to see how your editing of an entirely different article relates to this one. This is an entirely different topic, where you seem to be claiming that it is somehow a breach of BLP and/or contentious for an article on a noted Catholic columnist to state that she is opposed to same-sex marriage. Bastun 22:51, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
    I do not edit any BLP on the basis of any POV about who they are. Period. That you seem to wish to assert bias where none exists is very sad. O'Brien is on record as supporting civil partnerships - and why anyone would wish to elide that clear statement I find odd. What is odd also is that the following commenter is upset that I follow WP:BLP o on Sam Harris (author) who is an atheist! I guess I am a Popish atheist? BTW, read WP:OIECE please. Collect (talk) 13:24, 19 February 2015 (UTC) Collect (talk) 13:24, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
    As someone that has continually had to deal with Collect's wikilawyered BLP claims, at the very least he needs to be warned against that, because this kind of thing is an unnecessary time sink. --Ubikwit見学/迷惑 23:40, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
    WP:BLP is clear and not negotiable. I would draw everyone's attention to Talk:Sam_Harris_(author)#RfC where I suggest you are in the minority -- not even deigning to defend your edit which you sought so diligently to place in that BLP. If I am "wikilawyering" there, I have four accomplices including Xenophrenic! Collect (talk) 13:24, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

    User:Zigzig20s reported by User:Sladen (Result: Declined )

    Page: Amy Pascal (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported: Zigzig20s (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    Diffs of the user's reverts
    1. 2014-02-17 01:22 (reverting )
    2. 2014-02-17 00:26 (reverting )
    3. 2014-02-17 00:08 (reverting )
    4. 2014-02-16 21:17 (reverting × 3—note whitespace)
    5. 2014-02-15 19:35 (rollback × 7‒note non-vandalism deployment rollback)
    Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning
    Diffs of attempts to resolve on article talk page
    Talk:Amy Pascal#WP:BRD February 2015, Talk:Amy Pascal#Notability establishment (permadiffs )
    Comments
    3RR observed on Amy Pascal concurrent with editor's self-initiated ANI escalation at ANI. See also: WP:ANI#Legal threat and harassment on Amy Pascal's talkpage (permadiff ) and User talk:Gilliam#Rollback use (permadiff ). —Sladen (talk) 02:03, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
    I am not "edit-warring". My lack of understanding of "rollback" only happened once and has been fixed. This is simply another case of harassment on Sladen's part because of the ANI and his attempt to edit Amy Pascal's page in a way that flouts the third-party references. When Sladen censored/removed Lisa Kudrow's referenced quote, I added it back and added two more references for example. Please discuss on my talkpage if in doubt.Zigzig20s (talk) 02:08, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
    I arrived at this article as the result of an RfC and find this user very difficult to work with. Elinruby (talk) 02:34, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
    Sorry, but you introduced yourself by leaving a hysterical personal attack on the talkpage earlier today; this is ridiculous...Zigzig20s (talk) 02:45, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
    That seems really unnecessary, Zigzig, what you just said seems like a personal attack, i'm not looking at the Talkpage. Do you want help or not? --doncram 03:36, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

    Comment from non-involved non-admin editor:

    • I reviewed the 5 diffs and they all look different. They are 5 separate reversions by Zigzig20s, with no repetition of removal of the same material. So this is not a 3RR violation, at all. One was a reversion of an edit by Sladen that Sladen themself had labeled in edit summary as being very wp:BOLD. It seems fine for Z to revert that; next step in wp:BRD process is to DISCUSS at Talk page. The last listed one included numerous copyedit small changes which I think overall improved the article (except for an accidental garbling of "Hollywood Reporter" in one place), yet Z reverted. I think there's no Edit Warring violation, this should be dismissed.
    • There was complaint about Z's use of rollback on one of those, but that seems to be understood as not correct, expect no future problems.
    • I do think that Z's repeated use of reverting could be seen as unpleasant and controlling, perhaps too wp:OWN, and Z's use of dismissive edit summaries would be irritating, so I can understand some frustration by other editors. Z, for what it's worth, I suggest you be nicer, and reimplement the last edit for example, and not fight over tiny copyedit word changes, and generally pick your battles not dispute everything, which it kinda looks like you are doing. But again, no EW violation at all, so this should be dismissed. --doncram 03:36, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
    Note: It's noted by Bjelleklang below, that in fact wp:3RR does not require the reversions to be of the same material, so I was wrong about that, and 3RR violation did occur. I did view the multiple reversions as too controlling and causing difficulty for collaboration; good that 3RR policy actually rules that it is wrong. --doncram 17:15, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
    Thanks, I reverted the last edit on second thoughts, even though it seems a bit off topic...It's not especially relevant to Pascal. But one sentence is fine I suppose.Zigzig20s (talk) 04:02, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
    That's about the last-implemented reversion, which might be the first one listed above? Which had edit summary merely "irrelevant". About that, I think it would have been better for you to have just copied it to the talk page forn discussion, or perhaps removed it to the Talk page rather than outright deleting it, fine that's back. Thanks.
    But actually I was referring to the last-listed one above, this reversion of a number of small edits by User:Elinruby, which to me looks like all-okay wording edits except for accidental intro of a spelling error into "Holywood Reporter" at one point. Oh, now I see Z's reversion was reverted next by Sladen so maybe all those changes by Elinruby stayed in the article after all. That was the rollback edit, i gather that was discussed elsewhere, with no edit summary, no explanation, because using rollback, which won't happen further. --doncram 06:22, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
    Operating on a 0RR/1RR basis would be ideal, it does though get hard work for all when minor WP:MOS copyedits also find themselves reverted ( reverting × 5; follow-up ). Yes, an observation with WP:OWN would appear to be consistent with the whole of Talk:Amy Pascal and the article history; collaborative editing is smoother when precise concerns are known, and when known can then be discussed.
    WP:DDE provides recommended steps in this sort of case: engagement, RfC consultation and consensus implementation, followed by escalation of any and all WP:3RR instances—which is this step here per An editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page—whether involving the same or different material—within a 24-hour period−then ANI if still prevalent.
    Zigzig20s: thank you for the self-revert, please don't feel the need to revert—the ideal would be to suggest, to tweak, to try alternative wordings where-ever possible. Please consider WP:REVERT as a last-resort in cases of clear vandalism in which wording (after trying) is too hard to improve—and in all cases where a revert is used please try to be the one initiating discussion afterwards. —Sladen (talk) 10:04, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
    • Declined Although there was a violation (3RR applies to any material not several reverts of the same material), I'm going to decline this one based on the discussion here and on the article talkpage and also per the points listed by Doncram above. Bjelleklang - talk 11:13, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

    User:Inocencio.alves reported by User:Kudzu1 (Result: Blocked)

    Page: East Timor (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported: Inocencio.alves (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)


    Previous version reverted to:

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

    Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: N/A

    Comments: Repeated vandalism and edit-warring, introducing nonsense text at the top of the article. Pretty cut-and-dried.

    And now continuing to vandalize the page even after being notified of the 3RR discussion: -Kudzu1 (talk) 03:28, 17 February 2015 (UTC)


    The user is a WP:SPA spamming a foreign language name for East Timor onto many articles, breaking things in the process (ie ). They have been warned on their talk page that the edits are not appropriate, but is not responding and continues the disruption. TDL (talk) 03:28, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

    Blocked – 48 hours. EdJohnston (talk) 16:42, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

    User:Danylo7 reported by User:War wizard90 (Result: Account blocked, page deleted)

    Page
    The Fallout of 1956 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported
    Danylo7 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
    Previous version reverted to
    Diffs of the user's reverts
    1. 03:12, 17 February 2015 (UTC) ""
    2. 03:09, 17 February 2015 (UTC) ""
    3. 03:09, 17 February 2015 (UTC) ""
    4. 03:08, 17 February 2015 (UTC) ""
    5. 03:08, 17 February 2015 (UTC) ""
    6. 03:07, 17 February 2015 (UTC) ""
    7. 03:06, 17 February 2015 (UTC) ""
    8. 03:04, 17 February 2015 (UTC) ""
    9. 03:03, 17 February 2015 (UTC) ""
    10. Consecutive edits made from 03:01, 17 February 2015 (UTC) to 03:01, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
      1. 03:01, 17 February 2015 (UTC) ""
      2. 03:01, 17 February 2015 (UTC) ""
    Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning


    Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page


    Comments:

    User continuously removes deletion tags from page. -War wizard90 (talk) 03:15, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

    Update: since being reported user has vandalized both the related AfD and this page (deleted report about himself). -War wizard90 (talk) 03:23, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
    Now blocked and article deleted. Meters (talk) 03:26, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

    User:Bloom6132 reported by User:70.196.131.82 (Result: Semi, warnings)

    Page: Khanjar (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported: Bloom6132 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)


    Previous version reverted to:

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

    Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

    Comments:I tried to discuss this problem with User:Bloom6132 here and here and here but User:Bloom6132 reverted my talk page comments. I asked that the discussion be taken to the articles talk page but User:Bloom6132 did not do that. After User:Bloom6132 reverted my initial edits I added valid references but my edits were still reverted. User:Bloom6132 has frequently edited this article and I feel that there may be some ownership issue here. I just want the information that I added to the article using valid references to be included in the article so that people reading it will get accutate information, something that is not happening with the current article.70.196.131.82 (talk) 09:39, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

    That's a complete pack of lies by this stuck–up IP. He reverted my edits here without even adding an edit summary explaining why, then reverts me again claiming that I "have a problem". When I try to compromise and incorporate his edits while removing the incorrect formatting of the lead and an unsourced section in the main article which he took from the original lead, he reverts me yet again, this time resorting to personal attacks, claiming that I "do not know what talking about". Furthermore, he reverted me on my own talk page, assumes bad faith by lecturing me about article ownership (I claim no such right and never have), and again attacks me personally with a confrontational "What is your problem exactly". Clear case of WP:BOOMERANG here. —Bloom6132 (talk) 11:15, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
    • Bloom6132, editors do not claim ownership, they show it through their actions, I added references which you said were lacking, and you reverted again, the article is completely one sided, it totaly fails to mention the Indo-Persian forms of the dagger known as a khanjar, this is not what wikipedia is about, I added completely relevant information and when you mentioned that my information was not referenced I added two references, I could add more but you showed by your actions that you do not intend to allow ANY additional information to be added to this article. I tried to reach you through your talk page but you reverted that instead of engaging in some sort of conversation, I mentioned going to the articles talk page but you did not respond, I added a comment on the talk page and you still have not responded. You reverted the warring warning I put on your talk page along with the link to this discussion and you left a very uncivil comment (Reverting hypocritical bullshit warnings by 70.196.131.82.).. I did not removed referenced information from the article, I moved it further down the article to a more appropriate section. Your comments when reverting other editors edits are not appropriate>(Removing problematic additions. All info added is unsourced, and using the phrase "is a word used" is completely redundant – just state what it is.) (No reason given for unexplained and unjustified reversion. Stop edit warring.) (Fixing badly butchered lead. This article is a GA; writing style should reflect that.) (Removed unsourced section. There's only one main type of khanjar – the one from Oman. Any other supposed versions of it are minor and should be placed elsewhere in the GA.) (I'm bringing up legitimate points, while you lie and claim I'm WP:OWNing this article. I even compromised and allowed your edits to stand, but it looks like YOU have ownership issues by insisting that YOUR version is final. Grow up.) these are not the comments of someone who is open minded and capable of compromise.70.196.134.123 (talk) 02:27, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
    • Result: Article semiprotected, both editors warned. Conducting a revert war with a fluctuating IP violates WP:SOCK. User:Bloom6132 broke 3RR and was risking a block. Neither party has so far used the talk page to discuss these issues. Consider opening a discussion there. EdJohnston (talk) 05:21, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

    User:Walter Sobchak0 reported by User:Altenmann (Result:2 weeks)

    Page: Spanish profanity (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported: Walter Sobchak0 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

    The user persists restoring text unreferenced since 2012. The article talk page already sontaind extensive discussion that wikipedia policies about referncing should not be violated, but this editor ignores it . -M.Altenmann >t 16:43, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    1. diff
    2. Go to the talk page and take your bipolar episodes somewhere else
    3. Go to talk page and stop bickering

    Also very interesting form of discussion: "I'll look for references for this in the future but I must say people like you are to Misplaced Pages what the Ebola virus is to the human immune system. Walter Sobchak0 (talk) 16:39, 17 February 2015 (UTC)" Please intervene. -M.Altenmann >t 16:45, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

    Bottom line is I said "I'll look for references for this in the future " but this whining idiot felt the need to "report" me anyway rather than confront me in the talk page.

    You can guess from my prose I don't mind being blocked, I'll survive the trauma. M.Altenmann is an idiot and should be treated as such. Walter Sobchak0 (talk) 16:49, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

    I would also like to ask an uninvolved admin to enforce wikipedia policies and undo the restoration of a huge original research unreferenced since 2012. -M.Altenmann >t 17:03, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

    Yeah let's not forget that head-on affront to the wiki Gestalt. This is important. Walter Sobchak0 (talk) 17:14, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

    User:Trymeonce reported by User:Denniss (Result:Blocked for 36 hours)

    Page
    Airbus A320neo family (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported
    Trymeonce (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
    Previous version reverted to
    Diffs of the user's reverts
    1. 15:22, 17 February 2015 (UTC) "The A320neo is not a new aircraft. There are no errors in this edit."
    2. Consecutive edits made from 16:25, 17 February 2015 (UTC) to 16:36, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
      1. 16:25, 17 February 2015 (UTC) "Once again someone is removing facts from a Misplaced Pages article. My information is correct. It is a re-engine program. "It doesn't seem right" is not a valid excuse for removing my addition to the article."
      2. 16:36, 17 February 2015 (UTC) ""
    3. Consecutive edits made from 16:40, 17 February 2015 (UTC) to 16:40, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
      1. 16:40, 17 February 2015 (UTC) "Undid revision 647570993 by Denniss (talk)"
      2. 16:40, 17 February 2015 (UTC) ""
    4. 16:47, 17 February 2015 (UTC) "Undid revision 647571539 by Denniss (talk)"
    Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning
    1. 16:41, 17 February 2015 (UTC) "Warning: Vandalism on Airbus A320neo family. (TW)"
    Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page
    1. 16:41, 17 February 2015 (UTC) "/* Removal of relevant text and edits. */"
    Comments:

    User keeps on reverting, no attempt to engage in a discussion about this. Multiple user undid his changes (also made as IP before). Denniss (talk) 17:15, 17 February 2015 (UTC)


    Special:Contributions/71.51.220.0 and User:Trymeonce are possibly the same. 95.119.52.79 (talk) 17:56, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

    Update: Other edits of Special:Contributions/71.51.220.0 were reverted by other users. IP seems to be static. 95.119.52.79 (talk) 18:34, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

    I'm waiting for one of the several users that continue to delete my addition to prove that the plane is a new-build aircraft. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trymeonce (talkcontribs) 17:58, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

    No one needs to prove anything to you. What you do need to do stop edit warring and discuss any changes you are making, you are well and truly past 3RR which is a bright line rule with few exceptions, none of which are likely to apply here. Also, you should be properly sourcing any additions you are making to the article. The source you are providing doesn't support the claims you are making. If anything in the article isn't sourced and you wish to dispute it, you can probably tag it appropriately. But remember things in the WP:Lead may just be a summary of later in the article so may not need inline WP:RS as the statements are already sourced later. Nil Einne (talk) 18:02, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
    BTW, beyond the comments above, the editor has actually engaged in some discussion at Talk:Airbus A320neo family#Removal of relevant text and edits., but their comments there don't seem to provide sufficient support for their changes and they are also simulataneously reverting and have now reached 7R I think without anyone else breaking the 3, and that's not counting the IP. Nil Einne (talk) 18:18, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
    Oh and I just noticed is also including some pure vandalism in their most recent edits, calling editors facist pigs in the article . Nil Einne (talk) 18:23, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
    Blocked at WP:AIV for 36 hours by User:MilborneOne. Amortias (T)(C) 18:51, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

    User:Peter Isotalo reported by User:KimDabelsteinPetersen (Result: Article protected)

    Page: Danish pastry (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported: Peter Isotalo (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)


    Previous version reverted to:

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

    Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: Talk page is active and there are various threads on the issues.

    Comments:

    Note that all 4 reverts are clearly marked as reverts, and that the user chose to revert despite getting the 3RR warning. The "previous" version is not relevant here, since the article is fluid, but they represent edits that undid previous editors contributions.

    Last comment from the user after i asked him to self-revert at reaching 4RR: : ":No, I'm not. Mostly because you simply keep making shit up and ignoring my arguments. Serge certainly is. Take it Serge's AN/I-thread if you don't like it."

    Clear breach of bright-line rule, and not giving a damn!

    Kim D. Petersen 18:21, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

    Please note that these reverts are mostly of different content or merely partial reverts. Kim is also an involved party in an extremely prolonged and frustrating debate relating to Danish pastry. There have been incivilities and personal attacks, and now there's also an AN/I-thread filed by SergeWoodzing.
    Peter 18:28, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
    Peter... 3RR is a bright-line rule. It doesn't matter if it is different content, what matters is that they are seperate reverts of other editors on the same article within 24 hours. Please read up upon WP:3RR. This wasn't my preferred route, but your comment clearly stated that you didn't give a damn. --Kim D. Petersen 18:34, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
    IF it is not the same content then it is not a revert. Separate reverts of different content doesnt count for 3rr purposes. If that were the case someone who reverts three different vandalistic edits by three different users would be editwarring.User:Maunus ·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 18:44, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
    • Page protected for 3 days, multiple editors reverting each other. 3RR technically was violated (Maunus, it can technically be 3 different things, per some section of the WP:3RR page I can't bring myself to hunt down), but really quite innocuously (in 2 cases, very clear inarguable corrections of English usage, with no real change in meaning). Hopefully protection will calm the waters on both sides. I'd recommend not blocking, but after a couple of rouge page protections I'm probably considered "involved" by somebody so I won't close it. --Floquenbeam (talk) 19:06, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
    Hmm, that is news to me, the policy must have been changed. User:Maunus ·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 19:34, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
    Nope. Has been that way ever since my first edit on WP - which was sometime in 2006 iirc. --Kim D. Petersen 19:36, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
    Why was the page protected? Despite the above 3RR violation, it doesn't really seem as if there is editwarring going on. --Kim D. Petersen 19:30, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
    Ie. was any other editor close to the bright-line? And what do you think that the "i don't give a damn!" attitude towards our 3RR rule merits? I wouldn't have put this up, if Peter hadn't stated that he didn't give a flying ... about editwarring and other editors. --Kim D. Petersen 19:36, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
    And as an addendum: Why have you protected the talk page??? How are people supposed to resolve the disputes now? --Kim D. Petersen 19:39, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
    Well, if you put this up because you didn't feel you got enough respect, you're not exactly making your 3RR case stronger. The rule exists solely for the protection of articles, not to enforce respect between disputing parties.
    Peter 19:58, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
    What on earth does this have to do with "respect"? This isn't a game. We are trying to build an encyclopedia. --Kim D. Petersen 20:07, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
    Appeal to the closing admin: Please unprotect the page, or at the very least the talk-page after examining this case. Despite the reverts the article is actually pretty stable, and there are ongoing discussions at the talk page. It seems rather contrary to our WP:Page protection policy to do it this way. As far as i can tell, Peter is the only one who edit-warred in any serious consideration of the word, and not even that was very serious... it was the "i don't give a damn about editwarring" attitude that made me report this case. --Kim D. Petersen 19:49, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
    I must say that full protection was a bit drastic, but I'm actually starting to like it. If anything, it might cool down things and focus them on actual article improvement. Overall, discussion has been focused on how to accommodate the personal opinions of Kim, RhinoMind and Serge.
    Peter 20:03, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
    (edit conflict)Its rather unfortunate to state this, but it seems that User:Peter Isotalo is treating this (and Misplaced Pages) as a game (see ). --Kim D. Petersen 20:05, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
    It's called "fun", Kim. Try it some time.
    Peter 20:16, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
    It is not "fun" when it results in disrupting wikipedia Peter. --Kim D. Petersen 20:24, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
    Well, that's some serious shit, this disruption business. You better report me right away. I'm sure AN/I will take note.
    Peter 20:30, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
    Peter baiting is not civil... --Kim D. Petersen 21:37, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
    I agree with Kim D. Petersen about a very cavalier attitude and would like to add that it only takes Peter about 3 seconds to revert things he doesn't like in an article he's guarding. Obviously that gives him no time to use talk pages before reverting. It can't give any normal human being, especially one who is conscientious about any kind of work, time even to think a bit before taking constructive action. It just gives one time to do exactly as one pleases. As far as I know, most of us are trying to create and maintain a reasonably respectable encyclopedia? --SergeWoodzing (talk) 20:21, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
    Of course I'm not a normal human being. I'm a Misplaced Pages Terrorist.
    Peter 20:26, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
    Could i ask you politely to stop having "fun", and take this issue seriously? --Kim D. Petersen 20:28, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
    I think we can rest our case now and let other neutral people chime in. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 20:30, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
    You need to add som diffs, though. Gonna be hard for them neutral folk to get a handle on this otherwise.
    Peter 20:32, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
    I'm going to WP:AGF Peter, and not assume that you are bragging about how good you are at disguising your behavior, as your comment would indicate. And instead assume that you simply couldn't desist baiting, because you are having "fun". Please don't. --Kim D. Petersen 21:39, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
    Bishonen's talkpage is a moot issue. It's user talk space. Many users, and sometimes myself, use it to let off steam. No names are named, no accusations are made, but we sometimes make facetious comments about our activities as Wikipedians, including disputes we are involved with. If you can't see the comedy in a heated dispute about a type of pastry, you've developed an awfully high opinion of yourself.
    And I'm not going to feel bad about making tart comments about anyone who calls me "terrorist", or anyone who takes advantage of such spiteful nonsense by accusing me of trolling. For crying out loud, I apologized to Rhino and even attempted an appeal that get back on track. Rhino's response to this was to engage in personal attacks and high-handed accusations against me in a section heading. A section heading, damnit! And then you call me a troll. You even openly accuse me in this thread of disruptive editing.
    And after all that spite, you extending me the courtesy of saying you're doing all this in good faith. While griping about baiting of course. How do you expect me to respond? You're in chin flick territory by now.
    Peter 22:22, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

    User:A862678110 reported by User:IJBall (Result: )

    Page: List of countries and dependencies by population (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported: A862678110 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)


    Previous version reverted to:

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    1. Diff1 01:49, February 17, 2015
    2. Diff2 17:37, February 17, 2015
    3. Diff3 00:12, February 18, 2015
    4. Diff4 00:53, February 18, 2015

    Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: link

    Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: diff

    Comments:

    Based on their edit histories, A862678110 appears to be an SPA dedicated to replacing Taiwan with the term "Republic of China" on various articles on English-language Misplaced Pages (e.g. see also: List of countries and dependencies by area, where this same editor is also engaging in edit-warring), and it seems like a more severe action like a Block is the only thing that might get their attention on this.

    (Sidenote – I believe there is a sockmaster account that shares this same M.O., but I can't remember the details on that, or I might have gone the WP:SPI route. If anyone knows the sockmaster account to which I'm referring, please comment here!...) --IJBall (talk) 13:39, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

    I warned the user about about edit warring on the users talk page but they again reverted on List of countries and dependencies by area again, but did at least go to the talk page and comment on the discussion I started. Consensus was not built and I warned against edit warring there as after talk page warning was ignored and then the user reverted yet again on List of countries and dependencies by area. XFEM Skier (talk) 16:53, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

    Update: Looks like this one's just been blocked by Ymblanter. --IJBall (talk) 07:13, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

    User:Rebelrick123 reported by User:RealDealBillMcNeal (Result: )

    Page
    History of WWE (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported
    Rebelrick123 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
    Previous version reverted to
    Diffs of the user's reverts
    1. 09:00, 18 February 2015 (UTC) "Undid revision 647620806 by RealDealBillMcNeal (talk)"
    2. 04:42, 17 February 2015 (UTC) "Undid revision 647501678 by RealDealBillMcNeal (talk)"
    3. 03:30, 17 February 2015 (UTC) "Undid revision 646126382 by RealDealBillMcNeal (talk)"
    Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning
    1. 13:45, 17 February 2015 (UTC) "/* Stop trolling */ new section"
    2. 15:50, 18 February 2015 (UTC) "/* Stop trolling */"
    Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page


    Comments:

    The user was given ample opportunity to discuss the edits he was repeatedly making, even after making more than three reverts, but instead chose to continue to revert again and again and resorted to insulting me on both his and my talk pages. RealDealBillMcNeal (talk) 15:54, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

    User:Germanbrother reported by User:Doc James (Result: )

    Page: Major depressive disorder (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported: Germanbrother (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)


    Previous version reverted to:

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

    Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

    Comments:

    User:Aspire987 reported by User:Meters (Result: )

    Page: List of historical reenactment groups (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported: Aspire987 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)


    Previous version reverted to:

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

    Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

    Comments:
    SPA edit warring to create Wirt Artna on a reenactment group (first one nominated for speedy as copyvio and promo, second one as no claim of notability, both deleted after author finally blanked article) and include poorly sourced promotional mention of the group in the list of reenactment groups. No response to edit summary comments, user talk page posts, or article talk page post. Meters (talk) 16:50, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

    User:Lightbreather reported by User:WeldNeck (Result: )

    Page: Gun show loophole (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported: Lightbreather (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)


    Previous version reverted to:

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    1. - complete revision
    2. - reinserted material removed in an earler edit
    3. - removed my addition to the lede of who uses the term
    4. - removed material added here
    5. - self evident revision

    Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

    Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

    Comments:
    Lightbreather is on a bit of a rampage here. WP:ACDS apply to this article and considering how bad this behavior is, I am surprised no one has stepped in yet. WeldNeck (talk) 23:40, 18 February 2015 (UTC)


    I am reviewing WN's diffs and will return after. Lightbreather (talk) 14:59, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

    User:WeldNeck I have no opinion of whether the edits were or were not problematic so I am not endorsing your version of events here, however you may need this ] if you are asking for Discretionary Sanctions. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 15:24, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

    User:Taospark reported by User:Volunteer Marek (Result: )

    Page: Covert United States foreign regime change actions (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported: Taospark (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)


    Previous version reverted to:

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: First warning by User:bobrayner Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: Second warning by myself

    Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

    Comments:
    User:Taospark has been engaged in a prolonged slow motion edit war against multiple users for at least a month. Longer, if - as is quite possible - User:Crossswords is their sockpuppet (or vice versa). Recently this edit warring accelerated so that Taospark broke 3RR today. This was AFTER multiple warnings about it from several users. Specifically, Taospark was warned on the talk page about edit warring by myself, bobrayner, Staberinde and Vanamonde93. These warnings have been ignored and/or met with belligerence. In fact, even getting Taospark to the talk page was quite a task. And once there, they began accusing everyone who disagreed with them of "proxying" for each other. In other words, they took WP:CONSENSUS and decided it was a conspiracy. This is pretty much standard disruptive behavior.

    Volunteer Marek (talk) 05:58, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

    User Volunteer Marek has been engaging in blanket deletions of this article for several months since before my involvement Current dispute is regarding 3 sections which are properly sourced and relevant to the article's subject matter for which I're requested mediation here - Taospark (talk) 07:09, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
    marek stop your accusation of me being a sock puppet you have no proof whats so ever, just because i originally didnt agree on staberindes edits removing sourced text. I could also accusse you being a sockepuppet of bobbyrainer and staberinde and vis versa just because i see you agreeing on something, the editing history shows.--Crossswords (talk) 13:14, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

    User:Rukn950 reported by User:Summichum (Result: )

    Page
    Mufaddal Saifuddin (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported
    Rukn950 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
    Previous version reverted to
    Diffs of the user's reverts
    1. Consecutive edits made from 20:47, 18 February 2015 (UTC) to 21:00, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
      1. 20:47, 18 February 2015 (UTC) "/* Succession controversy */ repeatative"
      2. 20:53, 18 February 2015 (UTC) "/* Succession controversy */ the reference given do not support the paragraph. the details are already given in the article - 53rd syedna succession controversy."
      3. 21:00, 18 February 2015 (UTC) "/* See also */ repeated link is someone trying to prove something here?"
    2. 10:04, 19 February 2015 (UTC) "Reverted to revision 647763413 by Rukn950 (talk): Your reference is wrongly stated please talk before reverting. (TW)"
    3. 12:23, 19 February 2015 (UTC) "Undid revision 647857524 by Summichum (talk)this article you are giving reference is dated March 05, 2011 11:13 IST which is 2 years before the demise of syedna mohammed burhanuddin."
    Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning


    Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page


    Comments:

    The user is removing well refrenced information along with citation , the user wants to remove well cited information that Burhanuddin did not declare any successor as late as 2011 which is clearly mentioned in the last line of the cited article:http://www.rediff.com/news/special/special-bohra-dissenters-challenge-oppressive-priesthood/20110304.htm , the user has a strong COI. The user was warned amply in the past and was blocked earlier for sockpuppetry and COI noticeboard. Summichum (talk) 12:58, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

    • The time when he managed to block me for suckpuppet. he himself was engaging in sockpuppetry and was blocked. please take time to study this guys behavior before getting to any conclusion.
    • I have done no recent edit that shows any conflict of interest and POV which the Diff given by summichum is proof in itself. but That cannot be said about summichum.Rukn950 (talk) 13:23, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
    • I have not done 3 revert as you can see.and my reverts I have explained. summichum is cherrypicking and misrepresenting facts to prove his POVRukn950 (talk) 13:32, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

    User:summichum reported by User:Rukn950 (Result: )

    Page
    Mufaddal Saifuddin (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported
    summichum (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
    Previous version reverted to
    Diffs of the user's reverts
    1. Consecutive edits made from 20:47, 18 February 2015 (UTC) to 21:00, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
      1. 20:47, 18 February 2015 (UTC) "/* Succession controversy */ repeatative"
      2. 20:53, 18 February 2015 (UTC) "/* Succession controversy */ the reference given do not support the paragraph. the details are already given in the article - 53rd syedna succession controversy."
      3. 21:00, 18 February 2015 (UTC) "/* See also */ repeated link is someone trying to prove something here?"
    2. 10:04, 19 February 2015 (UTC) "Reverted to revision 647763413 by Rukn950 (talk): Your reference is wrongly stated please talk before reverting. (TW)"
    3. 12:23, 19 February 2015 (UTC) "Undid revision 647857524 by Summichum (talk)this article you are giving reference is dated March 05, 2011 11:13 IST which is 2 years before the demise of syedna mohammed burhanuddin."
    Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning
    1. https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Mufaddal_Saifuddin&diff=647683012&oldid=647668188
    2. https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Mufaddal_Saifuddin&diff=647825563&oldid=647823737
    3. https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Mufaddal_Saifuddin&diff=647857524&oldid=647856609


    Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page


    Comments:

    User user:Summichum has been persistent in establishing his POV,reinserting with self publish report on personal website,.no press or media has reported it. Any attempt to reason with him has proved useless.

    This user is blaming me for COI it when infact he is doing so himself,violating BLP. He is so hasty in bringing me to this edit war while I have been trying to resolve through talk page.

    The user was also blocked earlier for sockpuppetry and Editwar.Rukn950 (talk) 13:23, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

    • I have kept my revert 647857524 because it explains the misrepresentation of summichum.

    Redheylin reported by Roxy the dog (Result: )

    Page: Vitalism (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
    User being reported: Redheylin (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)


    Previous version reverted to:

    Diffs of the user's reverts:

    Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:

    Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

    Comments:

    The only other time I have initiated a report here, the reportee hadn't made 4 reverts, but I have hopefully learned to count since then. Redheylin is a very long term editor, with an excellent history (only one block) who should need no reminding not to edit war, but really needs an admonishment to stoppit. I shall now advise him of this on his Talk. -Roxy the dog™ (resonate) 13:39, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

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