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Note on Continued Abuse

Hi FreeRangeFrog, I noticed you asked a user previously to stop editing the Tony Jones Theologian page without citing proper sources, as he seemingly was seeking to add inflammatory content. He recently tried to claim Jones was not the Theologian in Residence at Solomon's Porch church, but this fact is cited all over including a Minneapolis Post article about the church, as well as references from multiple universities and publishers. I removed the dubious note (not sure if this is correct) and suggested to the user that he must provide a source that shows Jones is no longer the Theologian in Residence. I wanted to draw your attention to possible further abuses on this page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.154.69.239 (talk) 15:26, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

Discuss that with the user who edited the article. My involvement was due to serious BLP issues, this is a content dispute. The article should say what the sources say - nothing more, nothing less. §FreeRangeFrog 20:13, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

Nukoolkit Krutyai

Hi FreeRangeFrog, I'm Nukoolkit Krutyai page creator. This is Profile of Nukoolkit Krutyai on Buriram United Website. Don't delete my page, please. This message fromRukkiet (talk) 11:34, 11 February 2015 (UTC+7)Thailand.

@Rukkiet: Thank you. The problem is that you were given multiple warnings and you did not respond. Two things: One, subjects must meet WP:NFOOTY and/or WP:GNG. Second, all biographies must include at least one citation to a reliable source, per WP:BLPPROD. When you create article after article you force other editors to clean up after you, and that's not acceptable. So please exercise better judgement and don't create biographies about people who fail to meet our inclusion criteria, or lack citations. §FreeRangeFrog 05:03, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

@FreeRangeFrog: I'm sorry. I'm a new creator. Thank you very much for your advise. Rukkiet (talk) 12:11, 11 February 2015 (UTC+7)Thailand.

FYI, Seph

This was posted yesterday --‖ Ebyabe - Inspector General ‖ 19:09, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

@Ebyabe: Thanks for the heads up. §FreeRangeFrog 19:14, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Adding properly referenced information to Tony Jones (theologian)

Hi FreeRangeFrog, can you help me edit Tony Jones (theologian) so that it contains appropriately worded and sourced information? I tried to add some, but it was removed very quickly. I'd prefer to edit it to improve it, but I don't want to fall afoul of the 3 revert rule.121.45.218.89 (talk) 19:11, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

I've pasted the content and references that were removed at Talk:Tony_Jones_(theologian)#Adding_properly_referenced_information_to_Tony_Jones_.28theologian.29 so people can help me edit it. 121.45.218.89 (talk) 19:16, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

No, I cannot. Forgetting for a second that it was sourced to facebook and blogs (which are never reliable), the material was written inappropriately, lacking neutrality and attempting to synthesize information to make the point that the subject's divorce is bad for whatever reason. You'll need a reliable source that specifically talks about the subject and his divorce and places it exactly in that negative light. Otherwise it's all just original research. But ultimately the onus is on you to structure, word and source the information correctly. Per the BLP policy, such material is removed on sight, and without discussion. §FreeRangeFrog 19:17, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

I've left that material alone. I have attempted to describe some of the discussion of emergent theology in neutral pov terms. What do you think? 121.45.218.89 (talk) 19:21, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Blogs and more blogs. Again, you need to find reliable sources. If you don't have those then it's not gonna happen. §FreeRangeFrog 19:22, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

What's a reliable source? You really could try to be more helpful rather than reverting everything I do. 121.45.218.89 (talk) 19:35, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

WP:RS, WP:BLPSOURCES. §FreeRangeFrog 19:37, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

And I will note that a lot of that article is actually uses unreliable (or primary) sources, however none of that information is negative, which is the "trigger" for removal. So I placed some tags at the top. The article is protected for a week - that should give you time to find your sources. I forgot to mention, if you require a second opinion you can go here and ask for advice. §FreeRangeFrog 19:39, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Um, don't bite the newcomers, please? I don't feel very encouraged to come back after a week. 121.45.218.89 (talk) 19:44, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Definitely, unless the newcomers insist on edit warring on a biography and are unwilling to understand the policies they are pointed at. §FreeRangeFrog 19:53, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

I understand now, but the policy was incredibly long and quite unclear. It was really helpful when you said "blogs are not reliable", even if you were understandably annoyed at the time. 121.45.218.89 (talk) 20:11, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

If I'd been told that in the first revert, I wouldn't have wasted your and my time on blogs, and would have spent effort finding other sources. 121.45.218.89 (talk) 20:13, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

I think I've come up with a factual statement based on reliable sources (court documents). I'd like to get consensus before proposing an edit. What do you think of the edit at the end of Talk:Tony_Jones_(theologian)#Statement_on_Court_Case_duration_from_Court_Documents — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.45.218.89 (talk) 20:23, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Ok, let's try again: Per Misplaced Pages:Verifiability#Self-published_and_questionable_sources_as_sources_on_themselves, I'd like to use the blog posts on the talk page, and perhaps other posts of Tony's, for information about himself. How do you feel about this? 121.45.218.89 (talk) 20:58, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

The article already has enough primary sources... can you find some secondary ones? That would be best. The idea is to improve the article, not make it more worse :) Also, please be mindful about how you use and word those sources. Arriving at conclusions about the subject based on what the subject writes is original research. §FreeRangeFrog 22:14, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

WP:BLPN

Ribbit. It appears that an IP-hopper who is repeatedly copying and pasting my post to User talk: Jimbo Wales (and misconstruing it as an illustration of how Misplaced Pages is such a terribly corrupt place) is now trying to game the system by spamming every possible admin in order to claim that they are involved. I am guessing that the IPs are sockpuppets for a banned user, but I don't know who. The IP is apparently now trying to put every admin on report to the stewards. Maybe the stewards can globally block the IPs. Ribbit. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:59, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

@Robert McClenon: Thanks for the heads up. Are they doing this somewhere else? So far three IPs blocked but those are not range-friendly. §FreeRangeFrog 01:38, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

There is an entirely different and even crazier IP who has just posted to WP:ANI with a conspiracy theory that User:BatteryIncluded is the real master of the Internet via Misplaced Pages. I don't think that those IPs are in any way related. User CombatWombat42 advised me of the post to WP:BLPN as impersonation. It wasn't regular impersonation, since they were only copying and pasting my signature to what had been my post. I haven't seen any further evidence of the IP that you blocked since you blocked it. As I said, I think that the IPs that you blocked (and another admin also blocked) are sockpuppets for a banned user ranting about how bad Misplaced Pages is. The most recent post is entirely different. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:36, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

The post has been deleted, and redaction has been requested. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:38, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Redaction performed. Yet another user at WP:ANI complained about abuse by Binksternet, who is an ancient enemy, and said that he would obtain a restraining order, but then deleted that phrase in response to the WP:NLT warning. Multiple weird stuff, but the really crazy post is gone, and I haven't seen any more abuse by the IP-hopper whom you blocked. Thank you for blocking. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:46, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Restoring a fact that got dropped from Tony_Jones_(theologian) earlier today

Please see my suggested edit at Talk:Tony_Jones_(theologian)#Requested_Edit:_Tony_Jones_has_three_children. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.45.218.89 (talk) 00:54, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Misha Cross

I am re-creating this article because she has now won the award for Foreign Female Perfomer of the Year at the 2015 XBIZ Awards. Erpert 15:02, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

Okeydokey. §FreeRangeFrog 16:38, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

Re:Speedy deletion declined: Terminales

Hi, this article is a hoax, especially by Brandon Peniche did not participate in any series with that title. Nor had 3 seasons, this is the real series. Allison Lozz nor participated in this series. I recommend you to investigate well. The user who I believe that article is an obvious puppet of User:Talker36912. Who has also created this another article that is also false .--McVeigh / talk 21:19, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

@McVeigh: Thanks for the heads up. There's a difference between a hoax topic and misleading information in an article. They are not interchangeable. If "Terminales" the telenovela exists then the article cannot be considered a hoax. Hoaxes don't apply to content, because the deletion is performed on the article rather than the content. Not sure if that makes sense. The Acapulco one on the other hand is definitely a hoax. Ultimately though, you're very likely right that this is a sock of Talker36912, so I've deleted the articles as G5 instead. Cheers! §FreeRangeFrog 23:55, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

OK I understand, thank you for your help.--McVeigh / talk 00:02, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Eliminating the Michael Parker edits from the Satin article

Dear FreeRangeFrog, - Thank you again for offering to eliminate all of Michael W. Parker's edits from the Mark Satin FA. I have now reviewed all 23 of them and must conclude that it would be good - no, great - if you did so.

Because I do not want to be seen as "owning" the Satin article, I feel I should share with you my reasons for wanting each of the edits reverted:

XX.) Please note that on Jan. 15 at 21:58, NeilN properly restored the Ben Franklin picture and caption. (Parker had been so incensed that draft evader Satin made use of a patriot like Franklin in his Radical Middle book, that he eliminated the image and caption.)

1 - 10.) Ten edits stretching from 21:11 on Jan. 9 through 9:22 on Jan. 14. These all consist of Parker's attempts to alter the Assessment section to reflect his antagonism toward Satin's draft evasion. By now they have all been reverted (by four different editors).

Edits #11 - 23 were all created on Jan. 14. They should all be eliminated except the last (which I can restore if eliminating them all would be easier for you).

11.) 11:10. The word "militant" is not only not libelous of one of the fiercest (and best) polemicists in U.S. journalism, it is actually tamer than the words the source used ("nastiness" and "attack-dog mentality"). In the context here, it should not make anyone think of AK-47s or ISIS types.

12.) 17:10. Parker's "empty brackets" relate to a plural "s" that had been correctly edited out of a complex sentence that was being quoted. Like many of Parker's subsequent edits, this one appears to reflect a sincere misstep and / or unfamiliarity with the source material.

13.) 19:53. Overlinking (an ever-present danger in this article, addressed during the FA process in 2011) ... no need to link to the U.S. Constitution in this context.

14.) 19:57. Mention of the Vietnam War is turned into a link to the Vietnam Memorial.

15.) 20:00. No need to create an internal link to SDS here, since it had already been linked two paragraphs earlier.

16.) 20:04. Overlinking, this time to "racial discrimination."

17.) 20:07. Link to a publisher. On 1 Jan, 2015, possibly in anticipation of this article being summarized and linked on the Main Page, Colonies Chris eliminated virtually all the links to commercial and academic publishers (a couple of dozen), and on 4 Jan I eliminated the rest. We need to be consistent here.

18.) 20:25. The "a" is necessary here since there is no one "post-liberal, post-Marxist politics."

19.) 20:32. Removal of an ellipse from a direct quote. Perhaps Parker did not understand its function.

20.) 20:39. Overlinking again. The word "hippies," not even the subject of the sentence here.

21.) 21.01. The reference here is to the idea of New Age politics, not to anything entitled "New Age Politics."

22.) 21:04. More overlinking - "military intervention." Moreover, the entire phrase is "humanitarian military intervention," and the phrase appears in a direct quote.

23.) 21:16. This edit belongs, an addition of two commas. I will re-insert them if it's more convenient for you to revert everything at once.

If you feel more of Parker's edits should stay, I will defer to your judgment. But I am confident I handled them properly.

Again, I appreciate - more than I can say - your good offices here. - Babel41 (talk) 01:28, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

@Babel41: It's Sunday and NFL Playoff day today so I'll be getting around to this until tomorrow. In the meantime, feel free to make as many changes and reverts as you wish - my "job" as it were is to make sure the article ceases to be damaged more than making value judgments about the content. That's more your area since you're the subject matter expert. This isn't a content dispute, it's the restoration of valuable material damaged on purpose by a disruptive editor. §FreeRangeFrog 18:00, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

Frog, - Yes, I too enjoyed Marshon Lynch's vicious running today, so reminiscent of Jim Taylor's style for the Packers in the early 60s. But I am nothing like them and am glad you have my back with regard to consciously disruptive editors (seven entries by Parker today at Talk:Mark Satin: Revision history). I hear what you're saying about content and will revert Psrker's content-oriented edits (#11-22 above) myself late tomorrow.

I tremble for the future of this article; as you may have gathered from it, Satin is no more beloved among Marxists and some Greens than he is among conservatives. I also wonder about the wisdom of letting FA-rated articles be edited by newbies (see edits #11-22 above). But those are issues beyond my pay grade. - Babel41 (talk) 07:53, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Thasnai Sethaseree

Hi, The page "Thasnai Sethaseree" can be edited if it is not written in the right format. But it should not be deleted due to the reason of advertising or promotional aspect. (Thasnai (talk) 17:55, 18 January 2015 (UTC)).

Please create a draft and submit it to AFC for review. There was nothing salvageable in that article, and repeatedly making the same argument everywhere is not going to change that. Before you do, make sure you review the notability guidelines and make sure the subject meets them. §FreeRangeFrog 18:00, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

Heather Bresch

Hi FreeRangeFrog. I'm probably becoming quite a pest by now, but wanted to let you know I shared a draft on the Talk page of this article and there is an ongoing discussion (we talked about this article on your Talk page previously). I also started a string at the BLP Noticeboard. So far there is consensus that the current controversy is excessive, but not regarding whether the controversy should have a separate article or be consolidated to Bresch's page. CorporateM (Talk) 22:27, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

@CorporateM: I am reticent to engage in something time-consuming because of (temporary) lack of time. But I do agree that the controversy is excessive, both in standalone form and in the subject's bio, and could probably be summarized in a paragraph or two. §FreeRangeFrog 21:10, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Yah, that seems to be the word on the street from everyone. I'll keep looking for someone willing to spend some time on them. CorporateM (Talk) 23:01, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

@CorporateM: Can you put together a well-sourced two or three paragraphs that cover that within what we would consider WP:UNDUE? Is there some pushback from someone regarding the reduction in the information and/or selective merge from the "controversy" article? Do we need an RFC? §FreeRangeFrog 17:00, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

The current version at User:CorporateM/Heather Bresch has a paragraph on the controversy under the "Business Executive" section in chronological order of the article. There appears to be clear consensus that the current controversy is excessive, from both editors at BLPN, yourself and MrX (see here). Nomoskedasticity has expressed concern with copy/pasting a COI draft, but not stated directly whether they feel there is an undue issue. Looking at the article-history, they appear to be one of the original authors. CorporateM (Talk) 17:23, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

Hey FreeRange. The discussion about the controversy has died down, but I'm expecting significantly less interest in the rest of the page, which is not so exciting I suppose. I was wondering if you still had some time to take a look at stuff. CorporateM (Talk) 00:52, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Most of the information from the early life section has already been added. I moved the Request Edit tag to indicate where we're at now. ;-) CorporateM (Talk) 14:28, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

@CorporateM: OK, I went back to this and the problem is the references are all out of whack. Can you adjust them so they can be pasted straight where they don't duplicate the ones already in the article? I'd slough through a few but for this paragraph it's pretty much all of them. §FreeRangeFrog 03:48, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

 Done and tested here. CorporateM (Talk) 04:48, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

Deletion of my page Utsav Lal

Hi, I just realised that my page containing biography of living person Utsav Lal has been deleted or proposed for deletion ( not sure which one is currently the status). The reason indicated seems to be not enough references to substantiate information.I am totally unsure why this should have come up since multiple external links and facts were added to my page to substantiate all information. In case, thee was something that did not still have references, I can add links or edit. Request if you can advise on what needs to be done now.I would like to edit the page as per the wikipedia guidelines and restore but am unable to do anything. Alternatively, can I set up a new page. Please help. Sangita — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sangita Lal (talk • contribs) 08:57, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

As it was explained in your talk page, please create a draft and submit it for review. §FreeRangeFrog 21:03, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks

I'd been meaning to do that "thanks" thing for your post on Bish's talk page last week, but (a) I keep forgetting, and (b) it seems somehow insufficient. So just a note that I thought your comment was dead-on, and concisely well-put. Thank you. --Floquenbeam (talk) 23:05, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

@Floquenbeam: Thank you, much appreciated §FreeRangeFrog 23:20, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Sunrise Yachts

Firstly Hello, Now i have a few questions want to ask. Ok. You can delete my page but Why didn't you write that clear? why didn't you make a statement? I will delete. because errors on the page or that must be corrected bla bla bla. Why didn't u tell me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ucfikir (talk • contribs) 08:37, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

Not sure what you mean. The reason for the deletion is stated at the top of the deleted article, and you received a notification in your talk page. §FreeRangeFrog 16:54, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

Paul Karger

Hello FreeRangeFrog, you recently deleted the page under the name Paul Karger, however, there should have been 7 sources listed as reference to support that page. Paul is a notable figure as he is under 40 years old and currently managing $3 billion in capital at a firm he built with his twin brother. Can you please help to edit the page to get it back up? Cliqueconsulting (talk) 16:27, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

@Cliqueconsulting: Please read this and proceed to change your username here. Alternatively you may simply abandon your current account and create a personal one. Then read through this. Once all that is done let me know. §FreeRangeFrog 16:32, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

Hello FreeRangeFrog, thanks so much for your assistance on this. I have done what you requested. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cliqueconsulting (talk • contribs) 14:46, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

Restored to Draft:Paul Karger and left a message on your talk page. Thank you for changing your username. §FreeRangeFrog 17:01, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

OPNsense

Hi FreeRangeForg,

Yesterday I created an article about OPNsense a FreeBSD router/firewall project similar to m0n0wall and pfSense. The content of the page was setup just as other BSD related projects. The project itself is licensed under the 2-clause BSD license.

As frequent user of Misplaced Pages i find it a bit disturbing that this article was deleted as others will need to use general search options other than on the wiki to compare the different projects. I can't imagine why only half of the BSD based router/firewall story can be told.. to me that is just an incomplete encyclopedia.

I do understand there are rules for placing an article, but instead of deleting it perhaps you can help to improve it so it can be listed?

Anyway, thanks for taking the time to read my message... you probably get a lot of these request.

Best regards,

Joswp (talk) 07:28, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

@Joswp: We do not take into account what "others will need" or what is needed to compare X to Y or what other things exist in Misplaced Pages when deleting articles. Yours was deleted because it was written as a prospectus or brochure - the same way you'd write on the project's website: ...easy-to-use and easy-to-build FreeBSD based firewall and routing platform. The project is focused on code quality and easy development... - that is not appropriate for Misplaced Pages. Being open source or free software is not an automatic inclusion criteria either - subjects must meet at least the general notability guidelines. With that said, I restored the article to draft space here: Draft:OPNsense. You are welcome to edit it to make it neutral, prove that is notable, and submit it for review. §FreeRangeFrog 20:41, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi FreeRangeFrog,

Thank you very much for you help, I understand the issue with the article and will improve it. Thumbs up! Joswp (talk) 19:29, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Sustenance

Eman235/talk has given you a plate of hummus! Hummus is a specialty of the Middle East. With some pita bread, they are delicious and promote WikiLove. Hopefully, this one has added flavor to your day.

A nice protein-filled snack for you while you deal with administrator shtuff.

Spread the goodness of hummus by adding {{subst:Hummus}} to someone's Talk page with a friendly message! Give a plate of hummus to someone you've had disagreements with in the past, or to a good friend.

Eman235/talk 22:52, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

@Eman235: Thank you, I needed that! :) §FreeRangeFrog 00:10, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

User:Michael Mulenga

recreated it about 10 minutes after you deleted it. Also there is a mainspace article up for speedy with the exact same content, MICHAEL MULENGA. Maybe get that too, please? John from Idegon (talk) 09:14, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

@John from Idegon: Deleted and gave them a final warning. Thanks for the heads up. §FreeRangeFrog 09:17, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

NeedTo

You deleted NeedTo. I think that the article's references were enough to indicate notability. Could you please take another look at the article? Eastmain (talk • contribs) 14:20, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

@Eastmain: You moved it from a sandbox to draft, accepted the submission and then nominated it for speedy deletion. So I'm curious as to why? §FreeRangeFrog 18:09, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

• • I didn't mean to nominate it for speedy deletion. Someone else might have tagged it for speedy deletion as an abandoned draft, and if that's the case, I should have removed the tag. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 21:13, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Can you please explain what happened to the NeedTo page. All sources were from credible news agencies. I assumed in the spirit of Misplaced Pages a community driven site like NeedTo would be beloved. Especial since the Venture Capital backed competitors all have Misplaced Pages pages. Just don't understand. Please help FreeRangeFrog! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:304:4FD8:1070:21FE:2CE6:8B:FB0 (talk) 06:06, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

@Eastmain: I'm sorry, I thought you had tagged it for deletion but that was someone else. Normally I'd restore it to draft, but that would be pointless since it came from there. I've restored the article. Quite honestly I don't think it should have made it out of AFC but I don't have time right now to research whether or not it really meets WP:CORP, so you might want to do so yourself. §FreeRangeFrog 16:13, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Now at AFD. §FreeRangeFrog 17:50, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

CoffeeFest

Dear FreeRangeFrog,

Thank you for reviewing our first contribution to Misplaced Pages as content creators. We are a small company that tries to satisfy needs, mostly in education space. I am persdonally a university professor and teaching and coaching is my raison d'êtree. The CoffeeFest is our first foray in the commercial space, but even there, education is an important component. Namely, our CoffeeFest objective is to inform, entertain and educate visitors. And for manufacturers to inform potential users of their products. And for baristas this is the only place in Serbia where they can get regular training free of charge.

Based on the above, are we a commercial outfit, yes we are. But we are socially responsible and our goal is to provide service, and if the users are happy, we can make some income.

After your deletion, I went to review some similar events as described on Wiki: ] and I do believe that we are by far less commercial and more socially aware.

There is one aspect that you are right. We have included a number of external and Wiki links as references (like in Literature in a scientific paper) but have not indexed them in the text. I asked my colleagues to make changes and link the items we describe/mention to the outside, verifiable sources. With those corrections, I hope that our contribution would be acceptable.

May I ask you, if you care, to comment and help us on our journey through submitting this first contribution to Misplaced Pages.

Kind regards,

Danilo Goliani dgoliani@gmail.com 94.189.137.97 (talk) 17:44, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

If you could please log in to the account you used to create the article (or draft?) that would help. Or simply provide a link to it. I see no article with the title "CoffeeFest" ever having existed. §FreeRangeFrog 18:05, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

CoderDojo

Hi,

I'm contacting you about the deletion of the CoderDojo Page: https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=CoderDojo&action=edit&redlink=1

I would like to get this page back up and I was wondering if you could advise me on how to go about that, for example: the rocess involved, the content that we can include, etc

Looking forward to your reply.

Pete oshea1234 (talk) 10:23, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Pete

@Pete oshea1234: Who is "we"? §FreeRangeFrog 16:15, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Brent Sopel

Hello JLBourgeois here. I am a first tim user here at Wiki. I work directly with Brent Sopel and there were some updates needed to his page. I just read the reference section and will add notations in. Can you direct me back to the page where I made the edits? Thank you- JLB — Preceding unsigned comment added by JLBourgeois (talk • contribs) 04:53, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Please read this. And if someone drops warnings on your talk page, please stop for a second and read them. §FreeRangeFrog 05:03, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Page: Joey Ventrano

Why did you delete the page titled "Joey Ventrano"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikiwizard00 (talk • contribs) 18:12, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Because the article did not have a basic assertion of importance and was written as an advertisement. The same reasons that are mentioned at the top of the deleted page. See WP:BIO and WP:CREATIVE as well. §FreeRangeFrog 23:45, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

User:Kannada123

Hello. I recall that you were recently helpful with an editor who did not seem to be heeding or responding to the various warnings on their Talk page. I wonder if you could take a look at User talk:Kannada123? I see about 50 warnings there. —BarrelProof (talk) 02:40, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

@BarrelProof: Please give them a copyvio warning, if they relapse then we can take action. It seems to be the same pattern as the other(s) (it seems there's quite a few of these), uploading without even bothering to set the correct license. However, they have had other editors clean up for them. §FreeRangeFrog 17:49, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Unfortunately, copyvio review & fair use justification is not really something I ordinarily work on, and I may be too distracted/busy to really dig further into the matter – at least for a while. I went to that editor's Talk page for a different reason (to notify about a PROD of Cigarette (film) unrelated to copyvio). That led me to notice that the editor seemed to have ignored a lot of prior warnings. (The same was true with User talk:Onlylove18 – my reason for interacting with that user was not copyvio.) —BarrelProof (talk) 03:51, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion of article on Anne Elizabeth (Author)

Anne Elizabeth really is a notable Romance author (New York Times Best Selling) and a personality in her field who is notable, not only for her own work, but is also noted for her efforts in promoting others, as well as reporting on them.

Please help me to place a suitable entry for her in Misplaced Pages, as to not have her listed here is a disservice to her, the other authors with whom she works and to the reading public. Thank You Odubhain (talk) 20:02, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

Your draft was written in an inappropriate tone - the same way you'd write up a media prospectus or brochure, or the subject's website. That's why it was deleted. I have no idea if she meets the notability guidelines (I assume she does) but such a badly-written article would never be accepted. §FreeRangeFrog 04:20, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

OK, I'll restructure the article based on the articles that already exist for similar authors with who she has worked and has been published. That should give it a good start.Odubhain (talk) 10:35, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Ry (Musician)

Hi FreeRangeFrog,

I've re-created a page you marked for speedy deletetion Ry (Musician), as I didn't quite grasp the guidelines, however has now been rectified. What is the best way for you to error-check the new article and make sure it fits within guidelines?

Thanks.

The reason the article was originally deleted (no assertion of importance) has been addressed, so it's unlikely that it would be speedy deleted again. Subject must still meet WP:MUSICBIO and/or WP:GNG. §FreeRangeFrog 04:20, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

fehmarnfestival

Sorry for violating your regulations with my article "Fehmarnfestival". Originally I just want to fit a (missing) picture of the battle of Segale to complete the Misplaced Pages article of "Battle of Segale". According to your regulations I first had to write 10 articles before I´m allowed to upload a pictutre. Thats why I wrote about Fehmarn, because it was the first big German Rock Open Air Festival and as the German Woodsrock its evidence for beeing published should be big enaugh! May you publish it again without the link to the homepage? (I still don´t have any copy.) Or do you see another way to shorten publishing my picture and article of the battle of Segale, while I send it first to you? Kind regards, Frabnk Frey — Preceding unsigned comment added by Frank Frey (talk • contribs) 17:44, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

No... you're confused. Please see WP:AUTOCONFIRMED. Regardless, if you cannot upload an image yourself you can request it here. If it is a free image then you should upload it to Commons, which doesn't have the autoconfirmed restriction. As to the deleted article itself, it was written in an exceedingly promotional tone that is inappropriate for Misplaced Pages. You're better off just starting over from scratch, but please check WP:EVENT first. §FreeRangeFrog 23:45, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

A user who keeps on making unsourced BLP's

https://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Gg717

Yeah I sent him a notice, but still it is a bit much. Wgolf (talk) 23:47, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

@Wgolf: Watching the talk page. §FreeRangeFrog 04:47, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Pakistan Advertisers Society

Hello, @FreeRangeFrogwant i want to know what was the main thing that was wrong in the article? It is necessary to make this article and since this is not the first time i am making an article. But i never know that what makes any article promotional? (Please don't suggest me to any reading section, if you yourself define it that would me more appropriate!) Since its about Society/Organization that promotes advertising i had to write about that. Can you point out please? And i am offended with such speedy deletion, because i am not given at least a day to make amends. This is really unfair, if article was promotional you should have given me a chance. I am making this article again and i think i know which points i have to take out which i previously put in the page. Fushan007 11:21. 4 February 2015 (UTC).

Well you already recreated it so there's nothing for me to do. It looks a bit less blatantly promotional than the version that was deleted, so there's that. §FreeRangeFrog 18:40, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Bull of Heaven#Genres

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Bull of Heaven#Genres. Thanks. Myxomatosis57 (talk) 11:39, 4 February 2015 (UTC)Template:Z48 Thank you. Myxomatosis57 (talk) 11:39, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

National Arbitration and Mediation

@FRFrog: I work at NAM and at the suggestion of Epicgenius we began making revisions to the National Arbitration and Mediation Page. Why did you undo our changes? It seems as we keep trying to make improvements, the changes are reverted instead of critiqued. Please help us move forwar as I have no idea what you have just done with the page using Twinkle. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.58.49.83 (talk) 20:28, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Please see your talk page, and before you continue please take the time to read this. §FreeRangeFrog 20:30, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for further clarification. We are just trying to get the information current. I have one of the staffers here creating a user account for you to be able to better track a legitimate user making changes, for starters. Second we would like to update the information so it is current, rather than back dated information that has little or no relevance to NAM today. Finally, how do we get our page reviewed by an editor (such as yourself) prior to posting? We truly re novice at this and are interested in having relevant information on Misplaced Pages. Thank you - MM 108.58.49.83 (talk) 20:52, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Again, all the information you need on how to proceed can be found at WP:PSCOI. §FreeRangeFrog 20:54, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

I have a tentative final draft of a neutral, ideally wikipedia approved National Arbitation an Mediation page, and I was hoping to get your seal of approval before attempting to upload it. Please let me know what you think as I value your opinion and it would be much appreciated. Thank you in advance!

NAM (NATIONAL ARBITRATION AND MEDIATION)

NAM (National Arbitration and Mediation) is a provider of Alternative Dispute Resolution (ADR) Services, including Arbitration and Mediation. NAM provides services to business entities and individuals who seek to resolve their dispute/conflict outside of the court system. The company maintains rosters of neutrals in all 50 states, Puerto Rico and in major cities around the world. NAM Neutrals consist of former Judges and attorney specialists with subject-matter expertise in a wide array of practice areas.

History

NAM was founded in 1992 by Roy Israel, its President and CEO, and is headquartered in Garden City. The company went public in 1996 and was a NASDAQ-listed company owned by public shareholders. In early 2005, it was privatized and remains so to this day.

Alternative Dispute Resolution (ADR) Services

NAM offers Mediation, Arbitration, Alternative Dispute Resolution, ADR, conflict resolution, Settlement conferences, Discovery Referees, Litigation Management, Baseball Arbitration, High/Low Arbitration, Complex multi-party Dispute Resolution, In Person Hearings, Hearings/Trial by Written Submission, National and International Initiatives, Online and Offline Case Management, Trial Preparation Services, Mock Jury Trials, Dispute Resolution Training, Videoconferencing, myADR, CLE (Continuing Legal Education).

Subject areas include: Personal Injury, Product Liability, Negligence, Toxic Tort, Business/Commercial, Bankruptcy, Breach of Contract, Franchise, Professional Liability/Malpractice(Medical Malpractice, Podiatric Malpractice, Dental Malpractice, Nursing Home, Attorney/Legal Malpractice, Accounting Malpractice, Architectural, Director and Officer), Employment (Harassment, Discrimination, Wrongful Termination, Wage & Hour, FLSA, Retaliation, Family and Medical Leave Act, Title VII, Severance Contracts, Non-Compete Agreements, ERISA), Labor, Union and Collective Bargaining, Legal Ethics, Art Law, Banking & Finance, Bankruptcy, Insurance Coverage, Environmental, Land Use, Construction, Civil Rights, Real Estate Disputes, Landlord/Tenant, Partnership Disputes, Dissolution Proceedings, Intellectual Property (Copyright, Trademark, Patent, Infringement, Trade Secrets), E-Discovery, Consumer Transactions and Claims, Cruise Line Disputes (Seafarer and Crew Member claims, Passenger Ticket Contract) Trust & Estates, Matrimonial, Sports Law, Entertainment Law, International Law, Maritime Law/Jones Act, Negligence, Premises Liability, Property/Land Law/Leasing, Securities/Financial, Government/Public Agency, International, Life Health & Disability.

myADR

myADR is a patented dispute resolution case management system and online risk management tool. myADR provides users with the ability to view secure ADR-related data such as case-related documents, real-time cases status reports, analytical data, calendars, tracking and status reports and decisions and awards.

Awards/Accolades

In 2014, NAM was named the Best ADR Firm in the United States by the National Law Journal’s Annual Reader Rankings Survey. The New York Law Journal Reader Rankings Survey has selected NAM as the #1 ADR Provider in New York State for four consecutive years, 2011-2012-2013-2014.

Additionally, NAM has been quoted or mentioned in the Pittsburgh Post Gazette and the Wall Street Journal as well as numerous Bar Association publications.

References

1. “Arbitration,” Defined. http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/arbitration.html
2. “Mediation,” Defined. http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/mediation.html
3. “Alternate Dispute Resolution (ADR),” Defined. http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/alternate-dispute-resolution-ADR.html
4. “Commercial Litigation Academy 2014”, June 2014. http://www.nysba.org/workarea/DownloadAsset.aspx?id=49705
5. "Roy Israel." Interview. Roy Israel. The Wall Street Transcript, 18 Jan 1999. http://www.twst.com/interview/1928
6. “Forget the Gavel and Click on the Mouse” http://www.forbes.com/1999/07/02/mu1.html
7. New York State Bar Association http://nysba.webvent.tv/sites/nam-national-arbitration-and-mediation/3002/Arbitration+Services
8. New York State Bar Association http://nysba.webvent.tv/sites/nam-national-arbitration-and-mediation/3002/Arbitration+Services
9. “NAM Comes Out on Top!” Best of National Law Journal, 2014 http://pdfserver.amlaw.com/nlj/Best_of_NLJ_2014_Web.pdf
10. My ADR https://www.namadr.com/nam_myadr.cfm
11. “NAM Comes Out on Top!” Best of National Law Journal, 2014 http://pdfserver.amlaw.com/nlj/Best_of_NLJ_2014_Web.pdf
12. “New York Law Journal Reader Rankings 2013”. http://nylawyer.nylj.com/adgifs/specials/2013_0916_readerrankings/2013_0916_rr.html#p=2
13. “New York Law Journal Reader Rankings 2012”. http://nylawyer.nylj.com/adgifs/specials/091012nyljreaderrankings2012.pdf
14. “New York Law Journal Reader Rankings 2011”. http://nylawyer.nylj.com/adgifs/decisions/091311%20rankings.pdf
15. “New York Law Journal Reader Rankings 2014”. http://www.newyorklawjournal.com/home/id=1202670248716/NYLJ-Reader-Rankings-2014?mcode=1202615325582&curindex=1&slreturn=20150016102254
16. “The New York Law Journal Best of 2010”. http://nylawyer.nylj.com/adgifs/091410rankings.pdf
17. “Forget the Gavel and Click on the Mouse” http://www.forbes.com/1999/07/02/mu1.html
18. “NAM Comes Out on Top!” Best of National Law Journal, 2014 http://pdfserver.amlaw.com/nlj/Best_of_NLJ_2014_Web.pdf
19. "Roy Israel." Interview. Roy Israel. The Wall Street Transcript, 18 Jan 1999. http://www.twst.com/interview/1928

WP : AN

I had only refactored the overriding of a closed thread. The editor in question had recently edit warred on WP:FTN over this particular thread in question. I think you should self-revert and warn the editor not to overrule these closures anymore. VandVictory (talk) 01:21, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

Not only did you remove someone else's comment, you characterized it as "gibberish". If they posted over a close, let the closer deal with it. §FreeRangeFrog 03:28, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

Aurore Tomé

Dear FreeRangeFrog, if you remember I ask your help in a matter of deletion of my two articles by user Biruitorul (please don kick the name). You tell me to put this article on AFC process. One of them was rejected (https://en.wikipedia.org/Draft:Alexandra_Mas) and the other (Aurore Tomé) accepted on 25 Jan. 2015 by user patroller Lynctekrua ( I don't have any connection with him). Now, again Biruitorul put the AFD tag on this article. Is it possible that an accepted article to be deleted again ? It is already too much for me. But, maybe I'm paranoic, so I ask your help.
Thank you very much !
Leedskalnin (talk) 08:06, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

@Leedskalnin: I closed the deletion discussion, moved the article back to draft and re-submitted for review. Obviously the promotion to article was done incorrectly, by a user who shouldn't have done it. I am sorry this happened to you. I can't ensure that it will be accepted, but at least it's not in danger of being deleted anymore. Obviously Biruitorul feels the subject is not notable, and that's fine, they have the right to think so and to nominate the article for deletion. If the subject is indeed notable though, you have nothing to worry about. §FreeRangeFrog 21:20, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Thank you very much Sir FreeRangeFrog that you save my Draft, I will continue to work to improve the article.Leedskalnin (talk) 05:40, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

The user Hexbooster

Well after several warnings about unsourced BLP's they still do it. https://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Hexbooter

I just put a few afd's up for the articles (granted some I have not yet unless if someone wants to) Wgolf (talk) 22:30, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

@Wgolf: Fair warning given, blocked. Thanks again for the heads up. §FreeRangeFrog 22:34, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Welcome-I'm getting tired of these afd's, if you like you can try to see if any more need to be deleted, thanks. Wgolf (talk) 22:39, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

I closed some of the actor ones since they were clear A7s, I'll keep looking at some of the others. I'm not sure about the wrestler ones since I'm not familiar with the project-specific guidelines for those, although they seem to thoroughly fail GNG. §FreeRangeFrog 22:48, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Well one that actually might be notable is this guy that he made: Aydemir Akbaş, yeah that's one out of many of the pages, but I will admit the fact this guy does have over 50 credits should be somewhat notable. Not sure about the rest of the people though. Wgolf (talk) 23:02, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Christina Katrakis

Hello. How can I challenge the removal of a page? Sorry for my english

http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Christina_Katrakis 93.126.110.186 (talk) 22:47, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

You may do so here. §FreeRangeFrog 22:49, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

List of Old Boys of St Aloysius' College

I see you have looked at this list and noticed that some of my edits have been reverted and restored them. It is a poorly referenced list with too many non-notable names and no effort has been made to improve it. Have you any suggestions on how to tidy it up without getting into an edit war? Castlemate (talk) 06:48, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

Unsourced entries, or redlinked/non-article entries in any list can be removed without discussion. §FreeRangeFrog 01:12, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

Closure and Deletion of Joel Fram

Hi I'm not sure if I agree withe deletion of this article. I remember reading it an arts related context - he's a musician and writer but the details elude me. I would have contributed to the debate on deletion but was on a wikibreak. Could you please do a TempUndelete so that I can consider an appropriate course of action (if any). Thanks Cathar66 (talk) 15:31, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

I can send you the contents via email if you have that enabled, but I won't restore it. The AFD ran its course and the rationale can be found in the discussion. §FreeRangeFrog 01:11, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

William Sanders article request

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 42.71.253.216 (talk) 00:13, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

I did clean up the article substantially with little fuss by adding sources. If you have more independent sources let me know. --NeilN 00:17, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

User who is only adding facebook as the refs

https://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Rukkiet

Yeah bit of a problem there. BTW-is there a tag if someone only has youtube as refs? I mean if its a film or a person then that's a no, but for a song that could be a different case. (Of course the song can easily be taken down due to copyright issues) Wgolf (talk) 16:03, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

I should add not all of them are that way but most seem to be. Wgolf (talk) 16:06, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

Looks like they are continuing to do it by the way, so maybe a note you can put for them? Wgolf (talk) 03:05, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

@Wgolf: Final warning issued. §FreeRangeFrog 03:08, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

another user who keeps on making unsourced BLP's

https://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Sadman_Sakibzz (also has made unrefed bios of deceased people and has removed the tags for that) Wgolf (talk) 19:11, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

@Wgolf: Some of those can be tagged as A7. Remember we need to warn before we start blocking, and a block for this has to come after a pattern of the same type of disruptive editing. Some of those articles for better or worse have turned out OK. §FreeRangeFrog 19:23, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

Care Transitions Intervention Deleted

Hello,

The draft that I created on Care Transitions Intervention was deleted and I was hoping to have this reversed. I understand that it was denied for publishing due to it seeming too much like an advertisement, but I believe this can be fixed with some editing and I would appreciate the opportunity to do so. In the comments left by kikichugirl on February 2, I was informed that I would be able to edit the submission and was encouraged to do so, however when I went back to edit it I found it had been deleted the next day, February 3.

Can you help me with this matter?

HPM200B (talk) 02:30, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

If you enable your email, I will send it to you. I won't restore it, it was beyond inappropriate in tone and I would have to rely on your word that you will actually fix it at some point, which I'm not keen on doing. The moment I restore it will be a big target for another deletion as an advertisement. §FreeRangeFrog 04:16, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

I understand, can you tell me how to enable my email so you can send it to me, is there a settings section I need to find? I'm new to using wikipedia and I appreciate your help. I would also appreciate it if you could help me understand specifically what elements were inappropriate? I'm not affiliated with the CTI program so I'm certainly not trying to advertise for it and I don't want the page to sound that way. Thank you for your help!

HPM200B (talk) 05:42, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

WP:EMAIL contains all the information you need. As to the content, it was written as you would a brochure for the company. §FreeRangeFrog 17:18, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

I believe I have now enabled my email, can you send me the content from the page? Thank you for all your help! HPM200B (talk) 04:57, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Sent. §FreeRangeFrog 05:00, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Jalal Shamsuddin

Please refer Misplaced Pages: Articles for deletion/Halal Shamsuddin. It seems final information provided in the end regarding citation for book and quote is not considered, please review. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.215.156.65 (talk • contribs) 04:05, 10 February 2015‎ (UTC)

"Mullah on the main frame, by Jonah Blank, p.41" is not enough to overcome the deletion rationale. §FreeRangeFrog 04:14, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Look in on an ANI thing or just mediate?

I don't know if this is very proper, but I want to make sure that someone has seen my post on the ANI page since I know things can go pretty undetected on there. I've posted a summary of the events at Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#User:Figure8state and I've asked for a block but I'll take mediation as well. Long story short, a page got deleted and now the user has grown increasingly more abusive towards myself and another editor. It's sort of a WP:NOTHERE type of situation now. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)

@Tokyogirl79: Next time just give them a 12 hour block to cool down. There's involved and then there's being harassed. §FreeRangeFrog 17:16, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

articles for creation/Paul Browning

Hi I understand you deleted the page we were creating for the academic Paul Browning.

Can you please advise why? and what we would need to do in order to publish the article. We were told not to make the page CV like as the person is still living, so some amendments were made gathering as much information we could from his family, friends and peers. We are all still very keen to publish this page, so would be grateful if you can advise: 1) what was wrong with the page 2) how we can ensure publication

Many thanks Peter (and colleagues) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peterthorn79 (talk • contribs) 12:35, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

@Peterthorn79: Unfortunately you took too long to fix it, and due to the promotional tone it was nominated for deletion. I can email you the contents of the article so you can tone it down and re-submit if you like. Before you do, make sure you check the notability guidelines, mainly WP:BIO and/or WP:PROF. §FreeRangeFrog 05:13, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi Thank you, yes please email me the contents and I can try again, with the feedback. futon_mouse@hotmail.com thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.168.153.242 (talk) 12:14, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Sent. §FreeRangeFrog 01:35, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

@home_(store) Editing

Hi Team,

We are trying to update the wiki page : https://en.wikipedia.org/@home_(store). Also we are the official team with all the permissions for editing and updating the content on this page.

We have made a lot of changes and recently all the edits were reverted back. Kindly let us know the issues for the same.

Also the Store Images which we are uploading are from the authorised official store, kindly let us know how to make use of those.

If it is a kind of promotional content, please let us know some tips/steps/methods to get it resolved.

Our intent is not to create/update any signs of advertising or promotion contents.

Would be great if we can get help in updating the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lalit2014 (talk • contribs) 05:42, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

You turned that article into a promotional brochure. "@home offers its customers an unparalleled plethora of services, every store is well maintained and arranged by a skilled in-house team of designers to assist customers with their interior planning solutions with proprietary 3-D imaging software totally free of cost" and so on. Then you went on to create a listing of store locations that looked like a catalog. If you don't understand why that's inappropriate, then I can't really help you. Misplaced Pages articles are intended to summarize what the topic is about using mostly reliable secondary sources and neutral prose. I left information on your talk page that details how to deal with a conflict of interest - you can read it again here. The bottom line is, you technically shouldn't be editing the article directly. That's especially true if you are unable to do so neutrally. As for the images, they likely do not qualify for fair use, so you'd have to upload them to Commons under a free license like CC-by-SA. If you require further help please use The Tea House or the Help desk. §FreeRangeFrog 17:49, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	Thank you for your timely and justified eradication of edits at Jackson, Michigan. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 22:50, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

And someone else who continues to make unsourced BLP of unotable people

https://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Sadman_Sakibzz Even after being warned. Wgolf (talk) 19:15, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

Valentine Greets!!!

Valentine Greets!!!

Hello FreeRangeFrog, love is the language of hearts and is the feeling that joins two souls and brings two hearts together in a bond. Taking love to the level of Misplaced Pages, spread the WikiLove by wishing each other Happy Valentine's Day, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you a heartfelt and warm love on the eve, Happy editing,  - T H (here I am) 12:05, 13 February 2015 (UTC) Spread the love by adding {{subst:Valentine Greetings}} to other user talk pages.

Deletion of page Kneser-Ney Smoothing

Hi I was recently informed that my page on Kneser-Ney Smoothing was deleted by you this morning due to a copyright violation of the following website: http://www.donehealth.com/new-best-kneser-ney-smoothing.html. If you go to this link, you'll notice that the content is the exact same as what I had posted when I created the article. It also includes my Misplaced Pages username: ShreyaB94, which I find odd that a health website would have. I believe this is not a legitimate website but instead a web crawler that takes the content of hundreds of Misplaced Pages posts and puts it on their page so that it would seem as if the creator of the Misplaced Pages page had violated a copyright. I would like to contest the deletion of this page - this is indeed my content that was plagiarized by this website.

ShreyaB94 (talk) 19:12, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

@ShreyaB94: I've never seen something crawled so fast from here, but it does appear you are correct. Apologies. The article has been restored. §FreeRangeFrog 19:35, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

Undeletion of User:Sphilippian, then move of User:Sphilippian to User:Sphilippian/sandbox

Hello, FreeRangeFrog! Could you please undelete User:Sphilippian, revert to the revision just before it was CSD'd, move it to User:Sphilippian/sandbox, and add a sandbox header at the top? It's content that is appropriate for a sandbox, I am pretty darn sure. ApparatumLover (talk) 15:42, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

• My 2c: Hang on, since your Userpage states, "I had pages on both the accounts (BN 1470, BN 1372 and User:Sphilippian)..." with nonsense only you can understand? This suggests you have multiple sockpuppets accounts and that these pages are in fact CSD appropriate since WP:NOTWEBHOST, even in a sandbox (indefinitely). --Gaff (talk) 16:38, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Absolutely not. It was a bunch of nonsense that was not appropriate for a sandbox, because the only thing appropriate for a sandbox is material that relevant to Misplaced Pages. That was not even remotely that. §FreeRangeFrog 20:02, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

• 1. Misplaced Pages:Vandalism#Page creation, illegitimate says "New users sometimes create test pages containing nonsense or even autobiographies, and doing so is not vandalism; such pages can also be moved to become their sandbox or userpage." This means that if a new user creates a patent nonsense page/autobiography, someone can move it to their sandbox, where it will not be deleted.
• 2. Sandboxes are places for test edits. They do not have to be relevant to Misplaced Pages, and many contain patent nonsense. (People put nonsense in Misplaced Pages:Sandbox all the time.)
• 3. Please don't block me for my alts, I didn't know at the time that it was inappropriate to make alts. I forgot the passwords to my other 2 accounts and I did not know how to get the passwords back.
• 4. I am not misusing Misplaced Pages as a web host, I created patent nonsense pages because I thought at the time that they would be appropriate for Misplaced Pages.
• 5. Most of the Sphilippian edits were on the user page because I thought it was an article. So, technically I was not misusing the encyclopedia as a web host.

ApparatumLover (talk) 20:31, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

You're putting gibberish on pages and leaving it there. That is web hosting, not test editing. I think that those user pages should be "salted". THey are not contributing to the overall good of the Misplaced Pages project. --Gaff (talk) 20:58, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

What you had there was unusable fancruft related to this, which is by definition a violation of WP:NOTWEBHOST. I would email the contents to you, however as the content has been deleted I can't verify that you are Sphilippian unless you log in with that account. You're not going to be blocked for having more than one account, unless you use them to circumvent or violate Misplaced Pages policy. With all that said, you can go to WP:REFUND and see if another administrator disagrees with me and is willing to grant your request. §FreeRangeFrog 21:03, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

It's not web hosting, it was supposed to be an article about something I made up. You can continue to disagree with me, but I might go to WP:REFUND to see if other admins move it to my old account's sandbox. ––ApparatumLover (talk) 16:15, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

"it was supposed to be an article about something I made up" — I rest my case. §FreeRangeFrog 19:06, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

(To be exact, it was (largely conjecturous) data about movie and TV show characters, how many of them there are, and where they live.) ––ApparatumLover (talk) 23:51, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Re: Your ping

...here. The article you are thinking of is Gurbaksh Chahal.--Jezebel's Ponyo 04:38, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Well one user who I have told you about earlier is now being a sockpuppet

https://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Sifat_Mustafa Yep! I have CSD a few articles also. Wgolf (talk) 17:18, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

also looks like there are 2 sock puppet reports for him that should be merged.Wgolf (talk) 17:30, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

@Wgolf: Two? Where's the other one? §FreeRangeFrog 17:32, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Here: https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Sadman_Sakibzz/Archive Wgolf (talk) 17:34, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Oh no, the SPI is the top-level page, which "opens" again when another sock appears, and then gets archived to the archive. They're part of the same thing. §FreeRangeFrog 17:37, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

The CUS pages

Dear FreeRangeFrog, thank you for taking an interest in my recent contribution to the CUS page. I can provide extensive referencing for these claims, many of which will be in a (hopefully) forthcoming article on CUS. I implore you to undo your undo, or at least undo the entire content of the CUS page, as it too has no citation. I was responding mainly to the original content which made a serious mistake: seeing CASA as part of the continuing legacy of national student organizations in Canada.

The CUS pages have tremendous potential for expansion. I don't think it very useful to undo what little content there is. I also intend to provide citation when my work is published.

If you are really concerned with the lack of citation, you may want to censor the page of the Ontario Undergraduate Student Alliance. I recently added a large section on the early history of this organization, with full documentation and citation and it was undone and replaced with a highly partial statement - all without any citation. If you could intercede here for me, I much appreciate it. I also would like to have my edit restored immediately. Please let me know the outcomes...

sincerely, LSesomLSesom (talk) 20:27, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

@LSesom: Unfortunately it doesn't work that way. The policy is that all material should be sourced (or alternatively, that all unsourced material may be challenged and removed). Another option is to add a {{citation needed}} marker to the material, however in this case your edits were not only unsourced, but part original research and part non-neutral. When you have sources for your proposed additions and you feel you're able to edit those topics in a more neutral manner, you are more than welcome to do so. We'd rather have a poor stub than an opinionated, unsourced one. §FreeRangeFrog 21:15, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

WP:AE report

Hi. You may wish to comment here: , as you have interacted with the user in question. Regards, Grandmaster 21:05, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

@Grandmaster: Yeah, I'm about to. I noticed that after looking at their contribs just now. §FreeRangeFrog 21:19, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Frogs have short memory?

In case you forgot, your last words on the talk were . And in case you didn't bother to check, this time I changed the phrase you had a problem with and inserted the sources you requested. Unless you have any further issues, please undo your edit. --Steverci (talk) 21:45, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

"Appropriate manner" is not turning a bio stub into an essay on what you think is "Armenian genocide denial" by the subject. The problem is that you are unable to see that, because you're emotionally invested in the topic, which is why you're at WP:AE at the moment, and which is where I'm heading shortly as well. §FreeRangeFrog 21:47, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

I hope you consider that the reason I was reverting your edits was because I had first assumed you were a troll or a vandal because you said things like "Armenian Association of Whatever", somehow couldn't comprehend that LA Observer isn't an Armenian website, and broke Godwin's law. I was surprised to realize you were an admin because of how rude you were. When I did I stopped and focused on what exactly your issue was, and even now your biggest argument seems to be WP:IDONTLIKEIT. Reverting your edits was a misunderstanding and I hope you can be mature enough to discuss any more problems you have with the article and to listen to the AE clearly enough to understand it is wrongly directed at me. --Steverci (talk) 21:54, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

See WP:RS, WP:UNDUE and WP:OR. My problem is that the arguments you made in your edits (and their tone) are not supported by the given sources, or supported by sources that are not reliable (or are hardly partial), are synthesized and give extremely high weight to what should be nothing more than a blurb in the subject's career. The same way you turned your article about that Clooney Crowe movie in your sandbox into a treatise in holocaust denial (or whatever your issue is). Your editing is a pattern we've seen many times before, in many of our controversial topics: You're here to "tell the truth" about something, and you're determined to drag as many subjects into it as you can before you're banned from editing for that same reason. §FreeRangeFrog 22:02, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Assume good faith I still have a hard time believing you are an admin --Steverci (talk) 22:09, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

On the contrary, I assumed good faith from the start and attempted to reason with you, as evidenced by the discussion in the article's talk page. Unfortunately that reservoir of good faith tends to erode when dealing with someone who has an agenda and can't be bothered to listen to anything else but acquiescence by everyone else to said agenda. §FreeRangeFrog 22:21, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

That is a lie, your first words to me were doubting me ability to be objective when it has been you had been dismissive of sources for no justifiable reason and refusing to justify removing my edits. FYI, just as I was modeling Crowe's movie after Gibson's movie, I was modeling Frantz after Serge Thion. I can't believe I need to explain to you why one event can be a big part of an article. Look at the Charlie Hebdo article for instance. A lot of articles about people only exist because of something controversial they did to get attention. --Steverci (talk) 22:31, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Well of course I doubted your ability to be neutral and objective after seeing that - the good faith part is assuming you would. Sadly of course that was not the case. And you have a lot to learn about how this encyclopedia works, especially when it comes to biographical material. §FreeRangeFrog 22:44, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

I'm still the only one being objective. Once again I am asking you to tell me every wording you have an issue with, and once again you are just removing to whole thing and not bothering to justify so. --Steverci (talk) 22:52, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

I already did, and I don't have the time or interest to do so again. The material as you added it is inappropriate, and will not be allowed back. §FreeRangeFrog 23:04, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

WP:COMPETENCE is required. If you don't have the time and interest to justify removing my contributions, they should be put back. --Steverci (talk) 23:10, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Your next step is to take this to WP:BLPN to discuss the weight/sourcing issues if you so wish. I'll be commenting on the AE board as an example of why discretionary sanctions are a really good idea. This conversation is over, and barring an WP:ANI notification or other such exceptions, I'll ask you not to post on my talk page again. As you say, competency is required. §FreeRangeFrog 23:17, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Deletion of Virtual Private Cloud OnDemand page

Hi there. Was wondering if you could give specifics as to why you chose to delete the Virtual Private Cloud OnDemand page (see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/Virtual_Private_Cloud_OnDemand).

I'm a user of the service and thought I'd put up an entry for it, as other services I use have entries like AWS (http://en.wikipedia.org/Amazon_Web_Services) and Azure (http://en.wikipedia.org/Microsoft_Azure).

Admittedly I'm new to Misplaced Pages, but I believe I followed the new entry criteria of providing third-party references to the service as well as staying away from it being promotional at all.

Would like to hear your reasons. Thank you

Clembk (talk) 17:00, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

@Clembk: The problem is your article made no assertion of basic importance. It merely said the company existed, followed by a list of services and prices, which is inappropriate. Thus the speedy deletion. If you feel the subject meets WP:CORP I will restore and move it to the draft area where you can work on it without fear of it being deleted again. Then you can submit it for review. §FreeRangeFrog 19:54, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

Nearly sh1t myself

Saw your inadvertant block on my watchlist, blocking an editor I do not know, but have seen and I have respect for. I investigated and when I got back to the watchlist saw the revert of said mistake.

Oh, how I laughed. -Roxy the dog™ (resonate) 19:27, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

yeah, expect many a trout to be landing here soon... §FreeRangeFrog 19:28, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

Four minutes. Not bad. -Roxy the dog™ (resonate) 19:34, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

You've been whacked with a wet trout.

Whack! You've been whacked with a wet trout. Accidentally blocking a top SPI clerk for sockpuppetting? You deserve this xD EoRdE6 19:32, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

The frog accepts the trout humbly, pointing out that being blocked as a "badass" is perhaps not so bad. Maybe... perhaps... sorry... someone shoot me... §FreeRangeFrog 19:37, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

And another user who is adding unotable/unsourced blps

https://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Trevaughnmattis

seems to have a thing with unotable voice actors. Wgolf (talk) 19:37, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

Just made the 3rd one now! Needs to have a notice on there page!

@Wgolf: So did you give them the notice? §FreeRangeFrog 18:28, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Use page deleted

Hi Free Range Frog. Why was my user page deleted?

I apparently improperly posted about Transcendology from Wikiversity...sorry, I thought it was connected with Misplaced Pages and that no copyrights were violated. Can you help me start an article on Transcendology? Thanks. Kkawohl (talk) 20:08, 19 February 2015 (UTC)kkawohl

Unfortunately you can't create an article by pasting material from other sources, even if the source is Wikiversity. Misplaced Pages operates under different inclusion and content guidelines. I'd recommend using Articles for Creation instead. Just make sure your topic meets the inclusion guidelines, which require that it be covered by multiple reliable sources independent of the subject. §FreeRangeFrog 21:18, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

Deletion of Lorex Technology Inc.

Hello, With regards to your deleting Lorex Technology Inc., I am unclear on the criteria used to establish encyclopaedic value, and further how the content could have been considered to be in violation of the following:

(A7: No credible indication of importance (individuals, animals, organizations, web content, events))

Many Misplaced Pages pages that provide the history of an organization do not demonstrate any more credible indication of the company's importance or the significance of its leadership figures. I can point to other Wikis from related companies that publish facts of far lesser significance to the nature of the company being discussed let alone any kind of innate importance in general. I invite you to examine the links below and provide any excerpt that would nominate these Wikis as being somehow more important or less promotional:

https://en.wikipedia.org/Dropcam https://en.wikipedia.org/Nest_Labs https://en.wikipedia.org/FLIR_Systems https://en.wikipedia.org/GoPro

I direct your attention specifically to the GoPro Wiki, which has been marked for its semblance to an advertisement but has not been deleted. I am curious why there is a division in the treatment of content when nothing on the Lorex Technology Inc. page discussed the quality or usefulness of products the company sells. Any objective history of any organization evidenced by official sources such as public press releases and financial assessments and not by promotional content or marketing-driven assessments of the product should qualify as having encyclopaedic value.

Please advise how I can proceed in getting the Lorex Technology Inc. page back online. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alex2230 (talk • contribs) 21:08, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

What is your relationship with the company? §FreeRangeFrog 21:20, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

Starting CoderDojo page from Scratch

hello, I see you were the last to delete the CoderDojo page. I don't know what was on it, but I'm one of the volunteers of it in Belgium and really feel it should have a page here. So started over again and hope you can guide me or send me the deleted version so I can see what was wrong.

https://en.wikipedia.org/CoderDojo

Thanks, Frank — Preceding unsigned comment added by FrankDelporte (talk • contribs) 07:43, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

The reason your article keeps getting deleted is that you fail to make an assertion of basic importance. "We exist" is not enough, Misplaced Pages is not a directory of companies or projects. Beyond that, your company must also meet the inclusion guidelines. I'd recommend using AFC instead, which is what you should be using in any case since you have a conflict of interest, and take the time to develop the article, prove your company is actually notable, and have an editor review it before it is promoted. §FreeRangeFrog 22:23, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Zxaylis

Hello FreeRangeFrog. It has been over six months since you last edited your WP:AFC draft article submission, entitled "Zxaylis".

The page will shortly be deleted. If you plan on editing the page to address the issues raised when it was declined and resubmit it, simply edit the submission and remove the {{db-afc}} or {{db-g13}} code. Please note that Articles for Creation is not for indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace.

If your submission has already been deleted by the time you get there, and you want to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by one of two methods (don't do both): 1) follow the instructions at WP:REFUND/G13, or 2) copy this code: {{subst:Refund/G13|Draft:Zxaylis}}, paste it in the edit box at this link, and click "Save page". An administrator will in most cases undelete the submission.

Thanks for your submission to Misplaced Pages, and happy editing. Rankersbo (talk) 13:58, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

this is a joke.

Really, because pages like this https://en.wikipedia.org/Brandon_Jenner contribute so much??? standards that are not enforced are not standards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dmartin17 (talk • contribs) 19:35, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

See WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. I don't really know if Katie Nolan is notable or not, but as I said in your talk page, the article was created one too many times without making a credible assertion of importance, which is why it is now protected. I don't think you're reading up on notability when you create your articles, but until you do Misplaced Pages will unfortunately continue to be a frustrating experience. §FreeRangeFrog 19:48, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

I agree that an article for the show is, at best, premature. I'd like your opinion, as the protecting admin for Katie Nolan, on this draft I put together. Cheers,  Gongshow   talk 03:39, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

@Gongshow: Good job on that draft, that's what the other user was apparently not interested in doing. Is it ready? I'll remove the protection if it is. §FreeRangeFrog 04:05, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

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A request was made to ban you immediately due to your continous vandalism and trolling. Tampering into userpages and vandalising them is against Misplaced Pages policy, like you did in my page, you I refrain you to stop immediately to vandalise and trolling ,otherwise you will be banned permanently. Your disgusting lies about "abandoned" page are obvious dirty lies, that page was modified FEW DAYS AGO, so if you have nothing to do here but vandalising, trolling , just leave Misplaced Pages and stop destroying this community. I can see from the comments, you are quite famous in trolling, vandalising and destroying other users' work. Stop immediately and a permament ban is coming.MaXiMiLiAnO (talk) 04:19, 24 February 2015 (UTC)