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Just a heads up... I'm going to be NPOVing the intro. Per the NPOV policy the article shouldn't be endorsing the POV that Obamacare included a death panel provision. At the same time it should not be endorsing the opposite POV. ] (]) 02:09, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

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Death Panels - still more examples of common usage.

American Thinker contains an article titled "Death Panels - Alive and Well" today. Reinforcing that Death Panels is in common usage as a term describing utilization boards. Here is the first paragraph from the article:

"Both here and across the pond in the UK, government agencies ration healthcare. In the UK, the rationing board is ironically called NICE, or National Institute for Health and Care Excellence. Under ObamaCare, the comparable agency is IPAB, the Independent Payment Advisory Board. Rationing boards evaluate “cost effectiveness” of treatments and medications, deciding which ones to pay for, or not."

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/01/death_panels__alive_and_well.html#ixzz3P0jABoav 

The article continues to be a diatribe against Sarah Palin and not a description of how the term "Death Panels" is now commonly used. What is a "death panel". Per this article: "a myth". What does the author above and the dozens of other authors cited in the discussion here previously (and now gratuitously archived by someone) mean: "a panel that determines appropriate treatments for persons covered in a public insurance plan."

No citation for claim

Need a reference for this claim:

Palin specified that she was referring to Section 1233 of bill HR 3200 which would have paid physicians for providing voluntary counseling to Medicare patients about living wills, advance directives, and end-of-life care options.

There is no citation, and strangely the citation just before it says that Palin's "Death Panel" comment is like another rumor going around, the voluntary counseling. Did Palin actually call that out? The FactCheck quote from the time of the controversy seems to indicate she did not. Has someone conflated to the things? What is the source for this assertion? Without a citation this should go. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.170.185.66 (talk) 05:51, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

You're right. It does not summarize the article as stated. I will reword it. Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. {{U}}) while signing a reply, thx 19:06, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

Media Matters as a source

See citation 80, are we really sure Media Matters is an appropriate unbiased source? -- Charlie (Colorado) (talk) 04:24, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

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  1. Joondeph, Brian C. Joondeph. "Death Panels -- Alive and Well". AmericanThinker.com. American Thinker. Retrieved 16 January 2015.

NPOVing intro

Just a heads up... I'm going to be NPOVing the intro. Per the NPOV policy the article shouldn't be endorsing the POV that Obamacare included a death panel provision. At the same time it should not be endorsing the opposite POV. JoeM (talk) 02:09, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

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