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:* I respectfully suggest that another "dispassionate reading" is undertaken: what {{u|Hafspajen|Hafs}} was trying to type was "... and start shouting at people because their cat died." I cannot see anything that can remotely be construed as "another editor shooting cats" that is stated above. The only thing that is "incredibly inappropriate" is the amount of upset that has (again) been caused to Hafs - s/he is passionate about Misplaced Pages, gentle and very intelligent; English is not their native language but, as {{u|Cassianto|Cass}} says, s/he does her/his best and s/he certainly manages far better than I could in another language. Lately, s/he has been falsely accused of making sexist comments, being a troll, childish, causing "3 months of drama and non stop aggression" and "months of passive aggressive and intentional attacks" without any diffs being supplied. Is it any wonder that s/he is upset? ] - ] 08:43, 14 April 2015 (UTC) :* I respectfully suggest that another "dispassionate reading" is undertaken: what {{u|Hafspajen|Hafs}} was trying to type was "... and start shouting at people because their cat died." I cannot see anything that can remotely be construed as "another editor shooting cats" that is stated above. The only thing that is "incredibly inappropriate" is the amount of upset that has (again) been caused to Hafs - s/he is passionate about Misplaced Pages, gentle and very intelligent; English is not their native language but, as {{u|Cassianto|Cass}} says, s/he does her/his best and s/he certainly manages far better than I could in another language. Lately, s/he has been falsely accused of making sexist comments, being a troll, childish, causing "3 months of drama and non stop aggression" and "months of passive aggressive and intentional attacks" without any diffs being supplied. Is it any wonder that s/he is upset? ] - ] 08:43, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
::*I can't believe that, not when Hafs deliberately corrected "shoting" to "shooting" in a subsequent edit. Had she meant to type "shouting," s/he would have done so. In any case, I'm not engaging on this topic further. What's said is said,a and further comments from me will not help anyone. ]&nbsp;<sup>]]&nbsp;]]</sup> 16:15, 14 April 2015 (UTC) ::*I can't believe that, not when Hafs deliberately corrected "shoting" to "shooting" in a subsequent edit. Had she meant to type "shouting," s/he would have done so. In any case, I'm not engaging on this topic further. What's said is said,a and further comments from me will not help anyone. ]&nbsp;<sup>]]&nbsp;]]</sup> 16:15, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
:::*], well, yes it would help. Your calling Hafs a troll is one of reasons Hafs is so upset, and since it is not true, perhaps apologizing to Hafs would help calm him/her down and persuade him/her to return to editing. It's also true that no one came to Hafs' defense while the other editor continued his attacks. Regarding changing "shoting to "shooting", I have seen ''many'' instances of Hafs typing a message, probably quickly, and posting it full of spelling errors, and then going back in and correcting the spelling of some of the words, with some of those corrected spellings ''still'' wrong. How would you spell Swedish or French if you were in a hurry and upset on top of that? Hafs has ''never'' said a mean word to anyone. I don't think that misspelling was a deliberate act. Hafs is without a doubt one of the most knowledgeable editors on WP. S/He is an expert in art history, landscape architecture, botany, and religion. We really should do whatever we can to persuade him/her to return to editing. ] (]) 01:08, 15 April 2015 (UTC)


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By the order of the coordinators of the Military history WikiProject, Parsecboy, Cam, TheEd17, Dank, and Saberwyn are hereby awarded this Chevron with Oak Leaves award for the roles that each played in assisting with the creation of the 63-article Featured Topic Battlecruisers of the World. Since each of you have an equal claim to an award for the years long effort that they put into the total project by working on their corner of it and each of you has made contributions of truly incredible quality or importance in the area of military history, culminating in the completing the single largest FT to date on Misplaced Pages and passing a milestone by bringing an entire classification of ships - battlecruisers in this case - up to GA-Class, A-Class, or FA-Class. As Majestic Titan editors, you are collectively being recognized for this outstanding accomplishment with this shared WikiChevron with Oak Leaves Award, the first of its kind to be award to a group of editors. Congratulations to each of you for your outstanding achievements, and keep up the good work! For the coordinators, TomStar81 (Talk) 07:12, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
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On behalf of the coordinators of the Military History Wikiproject, I am very pleased to present you with the WikiChevrons with Oak Leaves, in recognition of your sterling service to our WikiProject over many years. This includes almost six years as a Coordinator (November 2008 to September 2014), your co-editorship of the Bugle newsletter (November 2010 to September 2012) during which time you helped put in place the format still in use today (and went on to edit the Misplaced Pages Signpost), and your participation in writing an amazing 25 Featured Articles. You were also a co-recipient of the Majestic Titans Oak Leaves recently, but owing to your continuous service as a coordinator till now, this is your first individual award, and it is long overdue! Ed, you are, quite simply, a MilHist institution. Thanks/cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 06:48, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
Your majesty, it gives me great pleasure to bestow the Triple Crown upon The ed17 for your contributions in the areas of WP:DYK, WP:GA, and WP:FA. Cirt (talk) 23:37, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
Your majesty, it gives me great pleasure to bestow these Imperial triple crown jewels upon The ed17 for your contributions in the areas of WP:DYK, WP:GA, and WP:FC. Cirt (talk) 02:47, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
Your majesty, it gives me great pleasure to bestow these Imperial Napoleonic Triple Crown upon The ed17 for your contributions to battleshippy articles in the areas of WP:DYK, WP:GA, and WP:FC. Well done, Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:26, 14 October 2009 (UTC)


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Nominations for the Military history Wikiproject's Historian and Newcomer of the Year Awards are now open!

The Military history Wikiproject has opened nominations for the Military historian of the year and Military history newcomer of the year. Nominations will be accepted until 13 December at 23:59 GMT, with voting to begin at 0:00 GMT 14 December. The voting will conclude on 21 December. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:36, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

WikiCup 2015 is just around the corner...

Hello everyone, and may we wish you all a happy holiday season. As you will probably already know, the 2015 WikiCup begins in the new year; there is still time to sign up. We have a few important announcements concerning the future of the WikiCup.

  • We would like to announce that Josh (J Milburn) and Ed (The ed17), who have been WikiCup judges since 2009 and 2010 respectively, are stepping down. This decision has been made for a number of reasons, but the main one is time. Both Josh and Ed have found that, over the previous year, they have been unable to devote the time necessary to the WikiCup, and it is not likely that they will be able to do this in the near future. Furthermore, new people at the helm can only help to invigorate the WikiCup and keep it dynamic. Josh and Ed will still be around, and will likely be participating in the Cup this following year as competitors, which is where both started out.
  • In a similar vein, we hope you will all join us in welcoming Jason (Sturmvogel 66) and Christine (Figureskatingfan), who are joining Brian (Miyagawa) to form the 2015 WikiCup judging team. Jason is a WikiCup veteran, having won in 2010 and finishing in fifth this year. Christine has participated in two WikiCups, reaching the semi-finals in both, and is responsible for the GA Cup, which she now co-runs.
  • The discussions/polls concerning the next competition's rules will be closed soon, and rules changes will be made clear on Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Scoring and talk pages. While it may be impossible to please everyone, the judges will make every effort to ensure that the new rules are both fair and in the best interests of the competition, which is, first and foremost, about improving Misplaced Pages.

If you have any questions or concerns, the judges can be reached on Misplaced Pages talk:WikiCup, on their talk pages, or by email. We hope you will all join us in trying to make the 2015 WikiCup the most productive and enjoyable yet. You are receiving this message because you are listed on Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk), The ed17 (talk), Miyagawa (talk), Sturmvogel 66 (talk) and Figureskatingfan (talk) 18:54, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

Cheers, J Milburn. You should be proud of the extreme amount of effort you've put into and the results you've gotten from the Cup over the last few years. Ed  20:03, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

GOCE coordinator elections

Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors

Candidate nominations for Guild coordinators to serve from January 1 to June 30, 2015, are currently underway. The nomination period will close at 23:59 on December 15 (UTC), after which voting will commence until 23:59 on December 31, 2014. Self-nominations are welcomed. Please consider getting involved; it's your Guild and it won't coordinate itself, so if you'd like to help coordinate Guild activities we'd love to hear from you.

Cheers from your GOCE coordinators Jonesey95, Baffle gab1978, and Miniapolis.
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Thanks for the badly needed copyedits. I've been crazy busy this week. Gamaliel (talk) 18:24, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

This Month in GLAM: November 2014



This Month in GLAM – Volume IV, Issue XI, November 2014

Headlines
  • Australia and New Zealand report: ALIA partnership goes countrywide
  • Belgium report: Workshops for collection holders across Europe; Founding event of Wikimedia Belgium; Wiki Loves Monuments in Belgium & Luxembourg; Plantin-Moretus Museum; Edit-a-thon at faculty library in Ghent University; Image donation UGentMemorie; Upcoming activities
  • France report: Wiki Loves Monuments; mass upload; Musée de Bretagne
  • Germany report: Facts, fun and free content
  • Ireland report: Ada Lovelace day in Dublin
  • Italy report: National Library Conference; Wiki Loves Monuments; Archaeological Open Data; BEIC
  • Netherlands report: Video challenge; Wikidata workshop and hackathon; Misplaced Pages courses in libraries; WWII editathon
  • Norway report: Edit-a-thon far north at the Museum of Nordland (Nordlandsmuseet)
  • Spain report: Picasso, first Galipedia edit-a-thon, course in Biblioteca Reina Sofía and free portraits
  • South Africa report: Wiki Loves GLAMs, Cape Town
  • Sweden report: Use, reuse and contributions back and forth
  • UK report: Medals, maps and multilingual marvels
  • Special story: ORCID identifiers
  • Open Access report: Open proposal: Wikidata for Research; Open Access signalling
  • Tool testing report: Tools for references, images, video, file usage; Popular Pages
  • Calendar: December's GLAM events
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December 2014 GOCE newsletter

Guild of Copy Editors December 2014 Newsletter

Drive: Thanks to everyone who participated in November's Backlog Elimination Drive. Of the 43 people who signed up for this drive, 26 copy edited at least one article. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.

Progress report: The November Drive removed 26 requests from the Requests page and 509 articles from the {{copy edit}} backlog. We copy edited 83 articles tagged in the target months; July, August, and September 2013. Together with tag removals from articles unsuitable for copy editing, we eliminated July 2013 from the backlog and reduced August and September's tags to 61 and 70 respectively. As of 01:01, 1 December 2014 (UTC), the backlog stood at 1,974 articles, dipping below 2,000 for the first time in the Guild's history (see graph at right). Well done everyone!

Blitz: The December Blitz will run from December 14–20 and will focus on articles related to Religion, in recognition of this month's religious holidays in much of the English-speaking world. Awards will be given out to everyone who copy edits at least one of the target articles. Sign up here!

Election time again: The election of coordinators to serve from 1 January to 30 June 2015 is now underway. Candidates can nominate themselves or others from December 01, 00:01 (UTC), until December 15, 23:59. The voting period will run from December 16, 00:01 (UTC), until December 31, 23:59. You can read about coordinators' duties here. Please consider getting involved and remember to cast you vote—it's your Guild and it doesn't organize itself!

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Voting for the Military historian and Military newcomer of the year now open!

Nominations for the military historian of the year and military newcomer of the year have now closed, and voting for the candidates has officially opened. All project members are invited to cast there votes for the Military historian and Military newcomer of the year candidates before the elections close at 23:59 December 21st. For the coordinators, TomStar81

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Out of process CfD close

It is very inappropriate to close a CFD discussion early especially when the close is the opposite of consensus! I'm not going to get into an issue over WP:WHEEL here, but you really do need to reopen that discussion per WP:WHEEL since I believe that your revert is in violation. Vegaswikian (talk) 00:00, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

@Vegaswikian: Wheel war? I'm not using administrator tools there? Anyway, I'm closing it for overall benefit to the encyclopedia. As WP:FATRAT says, "In building consensus, everyone will argue that such or such change breaks their preferred rule and thus simply *can't* be made. It's a good time to apply the WP:Ignore all rules policy and focus on how the proposed change makes the article better regardless of what the rules say." This isn't an article but is in the same spirit. Process should not derail the mission. Ed  03:24, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
(edit conflict)@Vegaswikian: That was an inappropriate CFD: those categories are entirely reasonable, standard maintenance categories. Any and all projects, whether Task forces as part of a larger project, or independent WikiProjects, require those in order to use WP:1.0 assessment. I would have done a speedy close myself if I had seen one or two voices confirming my sense of the discussion, Sadads (talk) 03:29, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
Closings are generally done by an admin at CfD, so while no powers, it is generally viewed as an admin action. In any case, since you are leaving the close, you should remove the entry made after the discussion was closed! Vegaswikian (talk) 18:11, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

New Misplaced Pages Library Accounts Now Available (December 2014)

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Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2015 !!!

Hello The ed17, May you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you a heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New year 2015.
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Season's Greetings!

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2015 !!!

Hello The ed17! As we gather to celebrate the changing of years and reflect on the meaning of life, the universe, and everything, I would like to wish you and yours a merry Christmas and a happy New Year. Attached is a small snack which I hope will give you the energy to continue being an amazing person and editor in the coming year.


Happy editing,
 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:48, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

VisualEditor newsletter—December 2014

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Did you know?

Basic table editing is now available in VisualEditor. You can add and remove rows and columns from existing tables at the click of a button.

The user guide has more information about how to use VisualEditor.

Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team has fixed many bugs and worked on table editing and performance. Their weekly status reports are posted on Mediawiki.org. Upcoming plans are posted at the VisualEditor roadmap.

VisualEditor was deployed to several hundred remaining wikis as an opt-in beta feature at the end of November, except for most Wiktionaries (which depend heavily upon templates) and all Wikisources (which await integration with ProofreadPage).

Recent improvements

Basic support for editing tables is available. You can insert new tables, add and remove rows and columns, set or remove a caption for a table, and merge cells together. To change the contents of a cell, double-click inside it. More features will be added in the coming months. In addition, VisualEditor now ignores broken, invalid rowspan and colspan elements, instead of trying to repair them.

You can now use find and replace in VisualEditor, reachable through the tool menu or by pressing ⌃ Ctrl+F or ⌘ Cmd+F.

You can now create and edit simple <blockquote> paragraphs for quoting and indenting content. This changes a "Paragraph" into a "Block quote".

Some new keyboard sequences can be used to format content. At the start of the line, typing "*  " will make the line a bullet list; "1.  " or "# " will make it a numbered list; "==" will make it a section heading; ": " will make it a blockquote. If you didn't mean to use these tools, you can press undo to undo the formatting change. There are also two other keyboard sequences: "[[" for opening the link tool, and "{{" for opening the template tool, to help experienced editors. The existing standard keyboard shortcuts, like ⌃ Ctrl+K to open the link editor, still work.

If you add a category that has been redirected, then VisualEditor now adds its target. Categories without description pages show up as red.

You can again create and edit galleries as wikitext code.

Looking ahead

VisualEditor will replace the existing design with a new theme designed by the User Experience group. The new theme will be visible for desktop systems at MediaWiki.org in late December and at other sites early January. (You can see a developer preview of the old "Apex" theme and the new "MediaWiki" one which will replace it.)

The Editing team plans to add auto-fill features for citations in January. Planned changes to the media search dialog will make choosing between possible images easier.

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Thank you! WhatamIdoing (WMF) (talk) 23:37, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

MHOTY

Hi Ed, voting actually closed at midnight UTC and I was about to archive the polls... ;-) Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 01:43, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

Aw shucks, I was hoping that I could sneak in. Thanks for the note! Ed  06:00, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CV, December 2014

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Yo Ho Ho

ϢereSpielChequers is wishing you Seasons Greetings! Whether you celebrate your hemisphere's Solstice or Christmas, Diwali, Hogmanay, Hanukkah, Lenaia, Festivus or even the Saturnalia, this is a special time of year for almost everyone!

Spread the holiday cheer by adding {{subst:User:WereSpielChequers/Dec14c}} to your friends' talk pages.

Thanks, WereSpielChequers! Ed  23:59, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

GOCE holiday 2014 newsletter

Guild of Copy Editors Late December 2014 Newsletter

Blitz: Thanks to everyone who participated in the December Blitz. Of the 14 editors who signed up for the blitz, 11 copyedited at least one article. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.

January drive: The January backlog-reduction drive is just around the corner; sign up here!

Election time again: The election of coordinators to serve from January 1 to June 30, 2015 is now underway. The voting period runs from December 16, 00:01 (UTC), until December 31, 23:59. Please cast your vote—it's your Guild, and it doesn't run itself!

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The Signpost: 24 December 2014

A barnstar for you!

The Resilient Barnstar
For your fabulous efforts at maintaining integrity of The Signpost. kosboot (talk) 02:42, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, kosboot! I'm very sorry that I haven't been able to use most of your (extremely appreciated) tips on the suggestions page recently. Ed  02:47, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
Most welcome. And I think we all understand how real life intrudes on Misplaced Pages activities. :) kosboot (talk) 02:53, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

Happy Holidays

Happy Holidays
Wishing you and yours a Happy Holiday Season, from the horse and bishop person. May the year ahead be productive and troll-free. - Ealdgyth - Talk 15:09, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, Ealdgyth. My dad loved the pictures. :-) Ed  23:59, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

Template:WW2InfoBox

Hi Ed, I just noticed that when you move protected Template:WW2InfoBox in April you also lifted the protection against IP accounts editing it which I instituted for a indefinite period in March. As I suspect this was an accident, I've just reinstated this protection (I considered leaving things as-is, but it's a template with few watchers which directly affects the very popular World War II article and vandalism in the past has been slowly corrected). I hope that this is OK. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 01:35, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

Hey Nick-D, you're correct in that it was a mistake, and it is of course okay that you've reversed me! Ed  21:23, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
OK, thanks Ed Nick-D (talk) 21:36, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

Dear The ed17,
HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! A new year has come! How times flies! 2015 will be a new year, and it is also a chance for you to start afresh! Thank you for your contributions!
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Wikicup

Can I just say that I'm really glad you had no part in the new rules? Because I respect you, but the giant middle finger of a no-consensus change to FP scoring, combined with a not-even-discussed one FP per article rule is such a giant fuck you to an entire class of contributors... Adam Cuerden 18:36, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

WikiCup 2015 launch newsletter

Round one of the 2015 WikiCup has begun! So far we've had around 80 signups, which close on February 5. If you have not already signed up and want to do so, then you can add your name here. There have been changes to to several of the points scores for various categories, and the addition of Peer Reviews for the first time. These will work in the same manner as Good Article Reviews, and all of the changes are summarised here.

Remember that only the top 64 scoring competitors will make it through to the second round, and one of the new changes this year is that all scores must be claimed within two weeks of an article's promotion or appearance, so don't forget to add them to your submissions pages! If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, and you hope to get it promoted before the end of the round, please list it on Misplaced Pages:WikiCup/Reviews. However, please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAN, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs which could otherwise be caused by the Cup. As ever, questions are welcome on Misplaced Pages talk:WikiCup and the judges are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! Figureskatingfan (talk · contribs), Miyagawa (talk · contribs) and Sturmvogel 66 (talk · contribs)
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GOCE 2014 report

Guild of Copy Editors 2014 Annual Report
Our 2014 Annual Report is now ready for review.

Highlights:

  • Summary of Drives, Blitzes, and the Requests page;
  • Review the election results;
  • Membership news;
  • Changes around the Guild's pages;
  • Plans for 2015.
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Books and Bytes - Issue 9

The Misplaced Pages Library

Books & Bytes
Issue 9, November-December 2014
by The Interior (talk · contribs), Ocaasi (talk · contribs), Sadads (talk · contribs)

  • New donations, including real-paper-and-everything books, e-books, science journal databases, and more
  • New TWL coordinators, conference news, a new open-access journal database, summary of library-related WMF grants, and more
  • Spotlight: "Global Impact: The Misplaced Pages Library and Persian Misplaced Pages" - a Persian Misplaced Pages editor talks about their experiences with database access in Iran, writing on the Persian project and the JSTOR partnership

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And again. Go Phightins! 19:33, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

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This Month in GLAM: December 2014



This Month in GLAM – Volume IV, Issue XII, December 2014

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Thanks, Pine! Ed  14:44, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Reporting on m:Research:Revision_scoring_as_a_service

Hi User:The ed17, I'm not sure if you're the right person to talk to about this, so I apologize in advance for noise. I'm hoping to get an article into the signpost and you've helped me do that in the past. See m:Research:Revision_scoring_as_a_service for more details. We're looking to summarize the project and welcome volunteers. TL;DR: we're working to build a cross-lingual, machine learning classifier service for edits that will support new wikitools that need edit quality measures (e.g. WP:Snuggle, User:HostBot, WP:Huggle and User:ClueBot NG). --20:30, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

@EpochFail: I can still help with that! We're short on volunteers to conduct an interview, but if you and/or your team is willing to write an op-ed extolling the virtues of the project, we can certainly run it. Ed  00:56, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
Great. We'll get a draft to you soon.  :) --EpochFail (talkcontribs) 16:17, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
Hi User:The ed17. We have a draft here: m:Research:Revision_scoring_as_a_service/Signpost/1_-_Intro Edits are welcome, of course.  ;) --EpochFail (talkcontribs) 00:24, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
Hey EpochFail, thanks! Would you be able to expand it a bit? I can honestly say that after reading that, I would have no idea what you are trying to build. :-p Ed  01:10, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
Sure. I'll take another pass. Just to make sure I understand, is your feedback only "what are you talking about?" Did you understand that we're building a service for scoring revisions as damaging or not? Was it clear to you that this is something that tools like ClueBot, Huggle and Snuggle need in order to function? Was it clear that we'll be providing a web service as well as libraries? Maybe we should spend a little bit of time discussing what machine classification is. Do you have other questions after reading the piece that I can make sure to address? Thanks again! --EpochFail (talkcontribs) 15:54, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
@EpochFail: Sorry for the delay—I read your post, meant to reply later, then forgot! I've read through it slower and believe that I understand it better. I was going to suggest simplifying it more (or at least defining things like "API," explaining what the code on the indented text says), but I assume that your intended audience is more tech-savvy people? You may also want to expand on how volunteers can volunteer! What does "state of the art" mean? Ed  22:21, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
Ed, we've give the article a rewrite. Can you take another look? --EpochFail (talkcontribs) 16:00, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
Hey EpochFail, it looks pretty good to me. I've sent it on to the day-to-day editors for possible publication in the coming issue. Ed  05:04, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi EpochFail. It looks okay to me, provided the intended audience is, as Ed said, not me, rather tech-savvy editors. I honestly have not the slightest clue what most of it is about, but if you think it will do what you want it to do, I have no particular problem running it. God bless, Go Phightins! 15:59, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Go Phightins! & Ed thanks! And yes, the material is intended for a tech-savvy audience. Please let me know if you need anything else. --EpochFail (talkcontribs) 16:09, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

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The Signpost: 14 January 2015

Adam

Ed, as you can notice on my talk page Adan Cuerden took a Wiki-break over a controversy about a picture of Pedro he intended to nominate that was remobved from the article. I am kind of paniking, because he was the head-editor on the FP Signpost entry. I have no idea how to put up a draft - where information is - no idea of anything. He made the draft and put that on my page while we worked together. Tell me now what to do. I don't know how long he will be gone and everything will stop without him. Hafspajen (talk) 20:23, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

Hey Hafspajen, take a deep breath! Adam has this week's report set up, and it's really simple to set up the draft (if it comes to that). :-) Ed  22:42, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
  • Ah, I see. Setting up the draft is easy—go to WP:NEWSROOM and click "start article" when the time comes. I've added a link to the following week's FC in the table for you. The articles, lists, and pictures are taken directly from WP:GO; our weeks sync with that page, so it's an exercise in copy/paste! Ed  22:13, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
  • Uh, well, thanks. Good to know. As I told you, I have no idea of anything. Yet... I really hope Adam will come back soon... this edition is so hopelessly gloomy without him. Not a joke in sight, except for the marmot. Hafspajen (talk) 22:18, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
  • If needed, I'll be more than happy to talk you through it. It's a lot simpler than it looks—I promise! He did saythat he would try to come back for next week's edition, so let's stay hopeful. Ed  22:38, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
OK, I have to take some initiative because it is way too late and we need this. Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/2015-02-25/Featured content. ‎ Where is the content ? I am involved at the FP so I kinda figure out a little bit what we did, but the rest of the project know not much about. Please help adding content. OK; fixed. --Hafspajen (talk) 14:39, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
No, I don't think it is necessary... It is not an article, that one has to check history. We have two drafts now, I just moved the title. It works. I just left you this note to alert you that 2015-02-25 is the urgent one, not the other one. --Hafspajen (talk) 03:18, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
Ed, this is not the way we write Singpost. We never revert each other, ever. We try to all respect each others work, and if somebody comes up with an change in what we do, usually leave it as it is. Because we do all respect each other. It is more important to have a good relationship that to have right. This kind of spirit should not exist there. AND - we never make white space. But please continue to go as you wish, I quit. Hafspajen (talk) 10:18, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
@Hafspajen: I thought we had a good conversation going, and I had compromised by adding some of the text back in! In no way, shape, or form did I intend to offend or drive you away. You have my sincere apologies, and I hope you'll reconsider. Ed  10:29, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
Arrr, OK. OK, I am really at loss - I don't know how I am manage alone ... For me this was the only heaven were we could work together in peace and have fun... Where the heck is Adam? Hafspajen (talk) 10:35, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

Preemptive ping

Just to let you know, you should have an email tonight - personal email is blocked at work, which accounts for most of the time I have available for Wiki these days. Parsecboy (talk) 13:22, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

Replied! Ed  08:41, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

I've done a draft for the 2014 Traffic report

Numbers are down 18% from last year. Interesting but can't say if it's indicating a trend. Serendious 00:10, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

18%? Holy crap. Is that reflected in the global traffic numbers? (the WMF has graphs somewhere; I'll find them tomorrow, as it's after 3:30am here) When do you think you'll have commentary and whatnot completed by? We could run it as a special report next week. Ed  08:41, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
I've drafted a commentary. Let me know what you think. Serendious 17:15, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
@Serendipodous: That looks good! I've made a few tweaks that you should check. Ed  18:21, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks! Revised. Serendious 18:33, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

The Signpost: 21 January 2015

Battle of the Somme

You locked Battle of the Somme under full page protection due to edit-warring. The two principal edit-warriors have agreed not to edit the page while moderated discussion is in progress. Could you please unlocked the page to permit third-party edits and to permit the moderator to make consensus edits? Robert McClenon (talk) 15:20, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi Robert McClenon, thanks for pinging me. I intended to and thought I protected the page for only three days; clearly I made a mistake somewhere. I've unlocked the page. Ed  16:02, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
I think that you accidentally protected it indefinitely. Thanks for unlocking it. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:16, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
Which is exactly what I realized after you pinged me. :-) Thanks again! Best, Ed  16:26, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CVI, January 2015

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A barnstar for you!

The Writer's Barnstar
With a bar. Efforts like "The Signpost" are exemplary! For such a long period, exemplary with bar(s). Thanks for the long term contribution. — billinghurst sDrewth 05:35, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
Ditto! Your effort, Ed, to get The Signpost published week by week meant a lot to readers like me. Chris Troutman (talk) 15:58, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks to you both, billinghurst and Chris troutman. I'm looking forward to taking a lengthy break. ;-) Ed  18:21, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

NHHC dead links

Re: Your post on the WikiProject Military history talk page. You mentioned that you were going to contact someone at NHHC by email. Was there any response and did anything come of it? Just curious. Please respond here when you get the chance as I will be watching this page for a reply. Cuprum17 (talk) 17:35, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

@Cuprum17: I sent emails last weekend to the NHHC's web program master and the general NHHCWebmaster@navy.mil. Neither have garnered a response. Ed  18:21, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
Perhaps their schedules were thrown off because of last weeks federal holiday...or maybe they just don't feel that it is their problem. I work with mostly Coast Guard subject matter on Misplaced Pages and about four years ago the Coast Guard decided to reformat the way things were addressed, changing from .htm to .asp (whatever that means). The result was dozens of dead links in Coast Guard related articles. As I have run across them I have repaired them as I was able, but many are still out there in other less well read Coast Guard articles. Thanks for your reply, perhaps the Navy will reply to you with something positive. The one Good Article that I have been able to produce in the last couple of years has 33 dead citations in it. (I have not marked them all, yet). I guess I will spend my time repairing them so that the article doesn't lose its GA status. I would have much rather spent my time doing research on another article or perhaps even trying my hand at bringing that same GA article to an ACR, a first for me. Oh, well... Cuprum17 (talk) 20:39, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
Hi, the NHHC wrote me that the old links were all deactivated and the new website is slowly materializing. It contains a lot of mistakes, dead links and missing descriptions, however. A complete photo list is planned. Hyperwar has many of the former NHHC photos online in the old NHHC style. Cheers Cobatfor (talk) 17:55, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
They emailed you back? I haven't gotten a reply. I'd like to think that they are inundated with complaints, but I'm doubtful. Thank you very much! Ed  18:02, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
Maybe they are just nice to foreigners... :-) :-) :-) I think it is nice to have tif-versions of the photos, although I would have preferred, if they would have waited until the complete old website was converted. I also think that an experienced user or more one that knows a lot about U.S. Navy ships does not want to "explore", we just want to find what we are looking for. At least, I also found some new photos. So, we just have to wait and see. Cheers Cobatfor (talk) 19:09, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
I'd mainly just like redirects from the old to the new URLs. :-) Let's hope they sort it all out soon. Best, Ed  21:18, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

USS Aroostook

Hi, I just realised that you created a page for USS Aroostook (AOG-14) on Commons in 2011. The ship depicted is, however, the minelayer USS Aroostook (CM-3), and not MV Esso Delivery No. 11, which became the gasoline tanker USS Aroostook (AOG-14) in 1943. The NARA description is wrong. CM-3 was decommissioned in 1931 and never reactivated. She was the sistership of USS Oglala (CM-4), famous for being sunk and raised at Pearl Harbor. I corrected the info and uploaded correct photos of AOG-14 from Navsource.org. Cheers Cobatfor (talk) 17:55, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for the correction! I was mindlessly droning and taking the captions at face value. Dominic, this one's for you to fix on NARA's end. Please see File:Aroostock (AOG14). Gasoline tanker. Port side, 04-30-1943 - NARA - 513045.tif. Ed  18:00, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Raising a glass to you

I hope you don't need it - I'll raise one for closing that ridiculous article AfD anyway. Panyd 17:51, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, Panyd. I'm pretty sure I won't need it... I hope. ;-) Ed  18:00, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

ArbitrationGate controversy

Can you As the deleting admin userfy the ArbitrationGate controversy to User:Retartist/ArbitrationGate controversy. I want to turn it into a joke page in userspace (like the ones with the joke template at the top). Hope this isn't too much trouble --RetΔrtist (разговор) 23:02, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Given that there is a non-zero possibility that the article will become notable, I'm going to decline this request, as subsequent recreations will need the page history. Ed  21:09, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
Okay RetΔrtist (разговор) 23:19, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

2014 Year In Review Awards

The Epic Barnstar
For your 2014 contributions to multiple history related articles you are hereby award this Epic Barnstar. Congratulations! For the Military history Wikiproject Coordinators, TomStar81 (Talk) 07:39, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, TomStar81! Ed  19:14, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

She's Baaaaaaaack

User:Christina1969's sock IP, 89.134.28.154 is back to continue editwarring at Dreadnoughtus] YET AGAIN.--Mr Fink (talk) 18:42, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

It looks like Favonian took care of her. Please let me know if she reappears; at this point, I'm ready to indefinitely block the main account. Ed  19:14, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
Will do.--Mr Fink (talk) 19:41, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
And Christina1969 has once again evaded her block by continuing editing with --Mr Fink (talk) 21:47, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
Blocked. Thank you for letting me know. Ed  21:54, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

The Signpost: 28 January 2015

VisualEditor News 2015—#1

Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team has fixed many bugs and worked on VisualEditor's appearance, the coming Citoid reference service, and support for languages with complex input requirements. Status reports are posted on Mediawiki.org. Upcoming plans are posted at the VisualEditor roadmap.

The Wikimedia Foundation has named its top priorities for this quarter (January to March). The first priority is making VisualEditor ready for deployment by default to all new users and logged-out users at the remaining large Wikipedias. You can help identify these requirements. There will be weekly triage meetings which will be open to volunteers beginning Wednesday, 11 February 2015 at 12:00 (noon) PST (20:00 UTC). Tell Vice President of Engineering Damon Sicore, Product Manager James Forrester and other team members which bugs and features are most important to you. The decisions made at these meetings will determine what work is necessary for this quarter's goal of making VisualEditor ready for deployment to new users. The presence of volunteers who enjoy contributing MediaWiki code is particularly appreciated. Information about how to join the meeting will be posted at mw:Talk:VisualEditor/Portal shortly before the meeting begins. 

Due to some breaking changes in MobileFrontend and VisualEditor, VisualEditor was not working correctly on the mobile site for a couple of days in early January. The teams apologize for the problem.

Recent improvements

The new design for VisualEditor aligns with MediaWiki's Front-End Standards as led by the Design team. Several new versions of the OOjs UI library have also been released, and these also affect the appearance of VisualEditor and other MediaWiki software extensions. Most changes were minor, like changing the text size and the amount of white space in some windows. Buttons are consistently color-coded to indicate whether the action:

  • starts a new task, like opening the ⧼visualeditor-toolbar-savedialog⧽ dialog:  blue ,
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The TemplateData editor has been completely re-written to use a different design (T67815) based on the same OOjs UI system as VisualEditor (T73746). This change fixed a couple of existing bugs (T73077 and T73078) and improved usability.

Search and replace in long documents is now faster. It does not highlight every occurrence if there are more than 100 on-screen at once (T78234).

Editors at the Hebrew and Russian Wikipedias requested the ability to use VisualEditor in the "Article Incubator" or drafts namespace (T86688, T87027). If your community would like VisualEditor enabled on another namespace on your wiki, then you can file a request in Phabricator. Please include a link to a community discussion about the requested change.

Looking ahead

The Editing team will soon add auto-fill features for citations. The Citoid service takes a URL or DOI for a reliable source, and returns a pre-filled, pre-formatted bibliographic citation. After creating it, you will be able to change or add information to the citation, in the same way that you edit any other pre-existing citation in VisualEditor. Support for ISBNs, PMIDs, and other identifiers is planned. Later, editors will be able to contribute to the Citoid service's definitions for each website, to improve precision and reduce the need for manual corrections.

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February 2015 GOCE newsletter

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Texas Revolution peer review

Hi Ed. I've just opened a peer review for Texas Revolution as the final step before we try for FA status. I'd very much appreciate your opinion. Thanks! Karanacs (talk) 14:46, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Hey Karanacs, I'll try to check in tonight. :-) Ed  17:23, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
Still trying to make time for this. I should be around tomorrow evening. Ed  21:57, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

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Today's Featured Article: Notification

This is to inform you that Brazilian battleship São Paulo , which you nominated at WP:FAC, will appear on the Main Page as Today's Featured Article on 5 March 2015. The proposed main page blurb is here; you may amend if necessary. Please check for dead links and other possible faults before the appearance date. Brianboulton (talk) 22:12, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

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Georgios Averof

I'm working on the Template:Sclass- article and have one source that says Brazil originally committed to buy the ship that became Georgios Averof, but later reneged. This would have been around 1909 and so not exactly unparalleled behavior by them, but I don't think I've ever seen anything about any Brazilian armored cruiser purchases. I'm only really familiar with their BBs, though. You know anything about this, possibly as a reaction to the Argentinian purchase of all those Garibaldi-class armored cruisers a few years earlier?--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 21:37, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Hey Sturmvogel 66, sorry about the slow reply—I didn't catch your post with the Wikimedia highlights (below) arriving so soon after. Who's saying that? I've never seen anyone even speculating about Brazil's desire for an armored cruiser, and I've looked through all of the Brazilian Navy-related Times and NY Times articles from 1907–10, many of which were wildly speculative (but none about the Pisas). Furthermore, I can't imagine why Brazil would want the ship. First, they changed their minds on ordering armored cruisers and went with dreadnoughts in 1907. Second, their first two dreadnoughts were not even a year away for most of 1909 (Minas Geraes was handed over to the Brazilians on 5 January 1910, and Sao Paolo followed in July), and they were or had just finished trying to get out of the contractually obligated third. Third, they wanted to be seen as an international power. Buying a ship with an outmoded design doesn't mesh with that goal.
Now, all that being said... could your source be mistaken? I could certainly see Argentina at least inquiring into the ship, given their alarm at the rapidly approaching delivery date of the Brazilian dreadnoughts, and they certainly had a history with Italian shipbuilders (very recent history, if you remember that they bid for the Argentine dreadnoughts). Ed  00:39, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
My source for this is a biography of Averof by a non-naval-specialist historian, so I think that it's quite safe to say that he's mistaken. The laid down date alone, four(!) after her sisters', reinforces the account in Conways that says she was built in advance of any order. But I thought that I'd check anyway...--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 00:52, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
Ah, not the most reliable source. I'll double check next time I delve into those articles and let you know if I find anything! Ed  01:13, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Wikimedia Highlights from January 2015

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USS Constitution

Extend PC time? --George Ho (talk) 00:37, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Hey George Ho, I've extended it for an additional three days at your request. Best, Ed  00:42, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

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WikiCup 2015 March newsletter

One of several of Godot13's quality submissions during round 1

That's it, the first round is done, sign-ups are closed and we're into round 2. 64 competitors made it into this round, and are now broken into eight groups of eight. The top two of each group will go through to round 3, and then the top scoring 16 "wildcards" across all groups. Round 1 saw some interesting work on some very important articles, with the round leader Australia Freikorp (submissions) owing most of his 622 points scored to a Featured Article on the 2001 film Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within which qualified for a times-two multiplier. This is a higher score than in previous years, as Smithsonian Institution Godot13 (submissions) had 500 points in 2014 at the end of round 1, and our very own judge, Colorado Sturmvogel_66 (submissions) led round 1 with 601 points in 2013.

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NYT lookup

IIRC, you've got access to the NYT archives and I don't so I'd appreciate it if you could do me a small favor whenever you get a chance. I need cites for the voyage of Crown Prince Umberto to South America aboard the Italian armored cruisers San Marcos and San Giorgio in July-Sep 1924 so I can upgrade those articles. Since it's post '23 I can't access it myself, but the NYT seems to be one of the few newspapers that bother to note the voyage at all as I struck out with the Australian and UK newspaper archives.

Also, if you can recommend any sources on the Argentinian Template:Sclass- armored cruisers, that would be great. I need to finish off my good topic on Italian armored cruisers and I can't do it without taking the class article to GA, which, of course, means mini-histories of the foreign ships in the class as well the Italian ones which I've already researched. Thanks in advance for any help that you have time to give.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 01:06, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Do you recall what articles you saw? I can't find anything on Umberto's voyage. I'm using varying combinations of "Umberto San Marco," "Umberto San Giorgio," "Umberto Argentina," "Umberto cruiser," and "Umberto warship" and not getting anything beyond a Christian Science Monitor article of 1923 announcing that he plans to make a trip.
The Argentine ships are woefully undercovered, something that isn't helped by the Argentine Navy's neglect of its history (there's no official webpages for their historical ships, only their current ones). Whitney's Cruisers of World War II might be your best bet; the only other substantial source I know of, excluding Spanish-language books, is HistArMar: . I've been able use a similar Portuguese-language site for the Brazilian ships. Ed  04:59, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
Try Humbert or Humberto as that's English version of his name. Thanks for the pointers on the Argentine ships, I'll run them through Google and see what comes out. I've been doing that with the Italian wiki of late and it's proved reasonably competent, rather to my surprise since my experience with its Russian translations has been rather poor. I haven't looked yet, but is HistArMar RS?--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 17:41, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
@Sturmvogel 66: I'd say so. It's the website of the Histarmar Foundation, a "a Buenos Aires-based non-profit organization aimed at locating, identifying, preserving and exhibiting Argentine maritime heritage." It's website is, at least according to them, an "internationally recognized reference link." See this PDF. It's not just a random personal website, despite the frankly ancient design.
I've gotten many more hits with Humbert. I'll save and send them via email. Ed  17:58, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
Many thanks. Once I finish off the last of the San Giorgio-class cruisers, I'll work on the rest of the Garibaldis.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 18:05, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
@Sturmvogel 66: I've emailed the articles. Let me know if I can help any more! Ed  18:10, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Today's featured article/March 21, 2015

Hi Ed, Nate and Sturm. A summary of a Featured Article you nominated at WP:FAC will appear on the Main Page soon. Does the article need more work? Is there anything I left out of the summary you'd like to see put back in? - Dank (push to talk) 03:54, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Hey Dank, I made an edit to the blurb, but otherwise the current state of the article is Sturm and Parsec's baby, so I'll defer to them. Ed  04:59, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Books and Bytes - Issue 10

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Books & Bytes
Issue 10, January-February 2015
by The Interior (talk · contribs), Ocaasi (talk · contribs), Sadads (talk · contribs)

  • New donations - ProjectMUSE, Dynamed, Royal Pharmaceutical Society, and Women Writers Online
  • New TWL coordinator, conference news, and a new guide and template for archivists
  • TWL moves into the new Community Engagement department at the WMF, quarterly review

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The Signpost: 04 March 2015

Jimmy Wales, the founder of Misplaced Pages

Your recent Signpost interview with FergusM1970 leads in with a question saying, "Jimmy Wales, the founder of Misplaced Pages". You don't honestly believe that, do you? I hope that was just a typo (where "a co-founder" would have been most accurate). The current wording is highly offensive to anyone who knows and respects Dr. Larry Sanger, who promoted the idea of a wiki encyclopedia to Jimmy Wales, with Sanger also naming the project "Misplaced Pages" and issuing the first public call for participation on the project. Wales was hardly "the founder". - Hey hey moi moi (talk) 23:37, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

Neither was George Washington the Father of his country, but the article on him says he was widely called that, even in his lifetime. Jonathunder (talk) 01:57, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
Hi, just got an email from Ed who is on his phone, which makes editing annoying ... he said it was a mistake, and that he almost always refers to Jimbo as co-founder, making this a typo. I will fix it. Thanks for bringing it up. Go Phightins! 02:14, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
A minor mistake, to be sure, but worth correcting. I'm still on my phone, but edits are at least going through now. Ed  06:38, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

Milhist notes on User:Ling.Nut

Hey, I used to be Ling.Nut. I scrambled the password a long time ago. I'm 99.99% retired. If possible, could you remove Ling.Nut from the MilHist notice list, so things won't be put on User talk:Ling.Nut? Thanks • ServiceableVillain 02:39, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Hey Ling, I'm glad to see that you're still around, even if only at .01%. I'm stuck editing on a phone right now while my computer is being repaired, but I will do this the next time I'm on a real browser. Ed  06:42, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
@ServiceableVillain: Done! Ed  18:53, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Article uprotection

Hello! I'd like to request unprotection from Yamato-class battleship, it currently has pending changes protection for the reason "trial run", which you added in March of 2013. In the last 500 edits, only 4 have been reverted through the pending changes system, which is a pretty fair number for few months of edits. Thanks! Kharkiv07 (talk) 20:05, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

Done! The "trial run" referred to an attempt to stem a bundle of vandalism that came around in early 2013, shortly after I removed semi-protection from the article. It looks like that worked. Thanks! Ed  18:52, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

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  • I have to point out that in spite of the night I spent awake, I can still think logically. You say: Haf, we can't monitor everything that is added while it is being added. Well you did monitored it, going so far as asking others what they think. You did not asked me, though. I do not experience this in any ways as a constructive answer. I don't experience anyone noticing my questions or even answering them. It is now gone and everything removed. The only thing I hear is -nothing was wrong, and we never did anything wrong. --Hafspajen (talk) 08:35, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
@Hafspajen: The discussion was moved to here. I think we're misunderstanding each other here. While I could have looked at it the day before and started a discussion about it, most of the content I had a problem with wasn't there at that time. By the time I noticed it, we were publishing.
As for your questions, I don't know how I or Drmies can answer them any better... I'm off to bed, but I'll check for any replies when I wake up. Also, like I said, we're going to try to gather the FC contributors this week for a discussion on how we can work out these kinks. Ed  08:41, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
  • Ed, thank you for telling me the discussion wasn't wiped out. At least. Second - nobody did answered the question. The only thing you or someone else told me was that an unknown woman thought it was sexist, without even knowing the context. Now try to do an experiment. Try to think this: you are a person that is trying to cheer up Misplaced Pages. You also worked hard for it. Maybe you have a background in a relationship that involved an older woman and a younger man - and it was terrific - better than any other relationship you ever had. Try, come on, now. Go on, and still try - to understand how this relationship went down the drain because of all the sexist comments from friends, family, parents, strangers etc. Go on now, keeping all this in mind - and still try to understand - you suddenly read a similar story that was not destroyed by any stupid sexist comment but succeed - and succeed well. Feeling sentimental, you just want to say to the world: But, yes, it can work! You see, here it is the proof. People did managed it, where you failed. Also, you are writing a page that it supposed to be funny. Hey, you just want to tell people not to have prejudices.
Ah, but next time you are logged in somebody is telling you that all is removed and you were making a sexist comment doing this. You might even perceive it as they might tell you were sexist - easy thing to (mis)-understand under these conditions. And the rest you know. Hey, maybe you will not feel so great after this. I certainly don't. Hafspajen (talk) 09:31, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thank you so much for unblocking me! As promised, my edits on Misplaced Pages will be productive. Fresh Sullivan (talk) 13:47, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

A cookie for you!

Unblocked me, trusted me, and acknowledged that when I promise something, I promise it. Thank you! You deserve this virtual cookie. Fresh Sullivan (talk) 14:20, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Edit my talkpage,can i?

Dear The ed17,i'm not sure so i prefer to ask you before to edit my talkpage,for be sure to don't do something of wrong. You have accepted my unblocking request,so i would ask you if now that my block have been removed,i can cleanup my talk page,removing the block template (not more valid,because as how said before,you have accepted my unblocking request) and also my unblocking request,that have been accepted from you,with related comments below. I will wait for an your reply. Thank you in advance for your time. Fabriziodg91 (talk) 15:22, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Revisiting the pop culture sections for the Iowa class battleships

If you like I'd be open to revisiting the idea with the community to see if they have a different opinion now then they did a few years back. Also, I'd like to visit the idea of renaming the ship articles since Parsecboy recently moved several ships from USS (Name) (classification) to USS (Name) on grounds that they didn't need dab links for a single named ship. How about it? Care to join me in a community discussion over at milhist/ships on the matter? TomStar81 (Talk) 21:19, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

Well, in Parsec's favor, that is what WP:SHIPNAME says those articles should be under. ;-) Let's open a discussion at Milhist? The amount of traffic there is higher, and we can put a note on the ship talk page. Ed  22:08, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

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This week's FC

There's a Featured Article that seems ideal for you to write about in this week's FC: SMS Dresden (1907). Gamaliel (talk) 18:36, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Or I could ping Parsecboy and demand that he come up with something suitably funny for April Fool's Day. ;-) Ed  01:27, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
There's gotta be a joke somewhere in this. Parsecboy (talk) 10:09, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
Love it, thanks! Ed  21:11, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

Wikimedia Highlights from February 2015

Here are the highlights from the Wikimedia blog in February 2015, covering selected activities of the Wikimedia Foundation and other important events from the Wikimedia movement.
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The Signpost, 1 April 2015

Just wanted to say, your lead article had me fooled for a nanosecond until I started laughing out loud, realizing the date being April Fool's. Thanks for the chuckle; you made my day (although it's still March 31st where I am, Nevada). --Rosiestep (talk) 03:02, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
Yeah, that's the trouble with timezones. I figured that it being after UTC was good enough. :-) Ed  03:04, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
I absolutely adored your April's Fool articles. Thanks for the effort to put some smile on our faces. werldwayd (talk) 03:31, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
@Werldwayd: Thank you! I put a good deal of effort into it. Ed  03:41, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

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Blocked Vandal Returning Yet Again

Hi, I think Christina1969 has returned to edit again, despite her block, as the ip 89.134.20.238 (talk · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log)). The new IP's edits and edit summaries recall Christina1969's edits and edit summaries, and the ip even restored the "In Popular Culture Section" in Kaprosuchus, which I had deleted for being unreferenced and irrelevant (in that, Christina1969 had previously restored it when she was using ip 89.134.28.154).--Mr Fink (talk) 14:37, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Though, JamesBWatson just blocked that new ip now.--Mr Fink (talk) 14:41, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
Yes. I have no doubt that that IP address and 62.165.225.199 have both been used by Christina1969. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 14:52, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

VisualEditor News #2—2015

Did you know?

With Citoid in VisualEditor, you click the 'book with bookmark' icon and paste in the URL for a reliable source:


Screenshot of Citoid's first dialog


Citoid looks up the source for you and returns the citation results. Click the green "Insert" button to accept its results and add them to the article:


Screenshot of Citoid's initial results


After inserting the citation, you can change it. Select the reference, and click the "Edit" button in the context menu to make changes.


The user guide has more information about how to use VisualEditor.

Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team has fixed many bugs and worked on VisualEditor's performance, the Citoid reference service, and support for languages with complex input requirements. Status reports are posted on Mediawiki.org. The worklist for April through June is available in Phabricator.

The weekly task triage meetings continue to be open to volunteers, each Wednesday at 11:00 (noon) PDT (18:00 UTC). You do not need to attend the meeting to nominate a bug for consideration as a Q4 blocker. Instead, go to Phabricator and "associate" the Editing team's Q4 blocker project with the bug. Learn how to join the meetings and how to nominate bugs at mw:Talk:VisualEditor/Portal.

Recent improvements

VisualEditor is now substantially faster. In many cases, opening the page in VisualEditor is now faster than opening it in the wikitext editor. The new system has improved the code speed by 37% and network speed by almost 40%.

The Editing team is slowly adding auto-fill features for citations. This is currently available only at the French, Italian, and English Wikipedias. The Citoid service takes a URL or DOI for a reliable source, and returns a pre-filled, pre-formatted bibliographic citation. After creating it, you will be able to change or add information to the citation, in the same way that you edit any other pre-existing citation in VisualEditor. Support for ISBNs, PMIDs, and other identifiers is planned. Later, editors will be able to improve precision and reduce the need for manual corrections by contributing to the Citoid service's definitions for each website.

Citoid requires good TemplateData for your citation templates. If you would like to request this feature for your wiki, please post a request in the Citoid project on Phabricator. Include links to the TemplateData for the most important citation templates on your wiki.

The special character inserter has been improved, based upon feedback from active users. After this, VisualEditor was made available to all users of Wikipedias on the Phase 5 list on 30 March. This affected 53 mid-size and smaller Wikipedias, including AfrikaansAzerbaijaniBretonKyrgyzMacedonianMongolianTatar, and Welsh.

Work continues to support languages with complex requirements, such as Korean and Japanese. These languages use input method editors ("IMEs”). Recent improvements to cursoring, backspace, and delete behavior will simplify typing in VisualEditor for these users.

The design for the image selection process is now using a "masonry fit" model. Images in the search results are displayed at the same height but at variable widths, similar to bricks of different sizes in a masonry wall, or the "packed" mode in image galleries. This style helps you find the right image by making it easier to see more details in images.

You can now drag and drop categories to re-arrange their order of appearance ​on the page.

The pop-up window that appears when you click on a reference, image, link, or other element, is called the "context menu". It now displays additional useful information, such as the destination of the link or the image's filename. The team has also added an explicit "Edit" button in the context menu, which helps new editors open the tool to change the item.

Invisible templates are marked by a puzzle piece icon so they can be interacted with. Users also will be able to see and edit HTML anchors now in section headings.

Users of the TemplateData GUI editor can now set a string as an optional text for the 'deprecated' property in addition to boolean value, which lets you tell users of the template what they should do instead (T90734).

Looking ahead

The special character inserter in VisualEditor will soon use the same special character list as the wikitext editor. Admins at each wiki will also have the option of creating a custom section for frequently used characters at the top of the list. Instructions for customizing the list will be posted at mediawiki.org.

The team is discussing a test of VisualEditor with new users, to see whether they have met their goals of making VisualEditor suitable for those editors. The timing is unknown, but might be relatively soon.

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This Month in GLAM: March 2015



This Month in GLAM – Volume V, Issue III, March 2015

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The Signpost: 08 April 2015

A new reference tool

Hello Books & Bytes subscribers. There is a new Visual Editor reference feature in development called Citoid. It is designed to "auto-fill" references using a URL or DOI. We would really appreciate you testing whether TWL partners' references work in Citoid. Sharing your results will help the developers fix bugs and improve the system. If you have a few minutes, please visit the testing page for simple instructions on how to try this new tool. Regards, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:48, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

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Never had any. How. Hafspajen (talk) 19:34, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

It takes one to know one I suppose

With edits like this, it's hard to wonder who is the troll. Cassianto 21:47, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Perhaps using "troll" was a bit strong, and a dispassionate reading of events would show that both sides did not acquit themselves well there, but talking about another editor shooting cats is (as I said) incredibly inappropriate in any context. Ed  22:22, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
The word "troll" is thrown around far too loosely on this site, and is best reserved for particular editors who have an agenda to disrupt. Haffy, I'm sure, is not one of them. Haffy doesn't have the best grasp of the English language, but he/she does their best; I'm sure they didn't mean anything by it. It's a shame, as we appear to have now waved them off of the encyclopaedia for good. Nothing good ever comes out of disputes like this in my experience. Cassianto 22:49, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
  • I respectfully suggest that another "dispassionate reading" is undertaken: what Hafs was trying to type was "... and start shouting at people because their cat died." I cannot see anything that can remotely be construed as "another editor shooting cats" that is stated above. The only thing that is "incredibly inappropriate" is the amount of upset that has (again) been caused to Hafs - s/he is passionate about Misplaced Pages, gentle and very intelligent; English is not their native language but, as Cass says, s/he does her/his best and s/he certainly manages far better than I could in another language. Lately, s/he has been falsely accused of making sexist comments, being a troll, childish, causing "3 months of drama and non stop aggression" and "months of passive aggressive and intentional attacks" without any diffs being supplied. Is it any wonder that s/he is upset? SagaciousPhil - Chat 08:43, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
  • I can't believe that, not when Hafs deliberately corrected "shoting" to "shooting" in a subsequent edit. Had she meant to type "shouting," s/he would have done so. In any case, I'm not engaging on this topic further. What's said is said,a and further comments from me will not help anyone. Ed  16:15, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
  • Ed, well, yes it would help. Your calling Hafs a troll is one of reasons Hafs is so upset, and since it is not true, perhaps apologizing to Hafs would help calm him/her down and persuade him/her to return to editing. It's also true that no one came to Hafs' defense while the other editor continued his attacks. Regarding changing "shoting to "shooting", I have seen many instances of Hafs typing a message, probably quickly, and posting it full of spelling errors, and then going back in and correcting the spelling of some of the words, with some of those corrected spellings still wrong. How would you spell Swedish or French if you were in a hurry and upset on top of that? Hafs has never said a mean word to anyone. I don't think that misspelling was a deliberate act. Hafs is without a doubt one of the most knowledgeable editors on WP. S/He is an expert in art history, landscape architecture, botany, and religion. We really should do whatever we can to persuade him/her to return to editing. CorinneSD (talk) 01:08, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

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Oh, I used the "Email this user" link which has worked for me before. Do you get email from other users? I was just saying thanks for accepting my minor edit in the spirit it was intended. That's it! Liz 20:45, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
Yes, I just tested it myself. Perhaps the page didn't fully load? Strange, in any case. Thank you again for the edit! Ed  20:55, 14 April 2015 (UTC)