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Hello, Coldcreation - I thought French last names starting with "de" or "du" generally were not capitalized (the "de" or "du", I mean), or is that an individual choice? In the article on ] most names do not have the "de" or "du" capitalized, but in the fifth paragraph in ] I found "Jehan Du Seigneur", and in the section ], I found "]", who has an article, and in that article the "Du" is capitalized. It just looks strange. ] (]) 23:34, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
Hello, Coldcreation - I thought French last names starting with "de" or "du" generally were not capitalized (the "de" or "du", I mean), or is that an individual choice? In the article on ] most names do not have the "de" or "du" capitalized, but in the fifth paragraph in ] I found "Jehan Du Seigneur", and in the section ], I found "]", who has an article, and in that article the "Du" is capitalized. It just looks strange. ] (]) 23:34, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
:Hi ], I was under the same impression as you. In the French wiki articles for both Jehan Du Seigneur and Maxime Du Camp, the Du is capitalized. I can only assume this is correct. At French wiki they are very strict about capitalization. Nothing is capitalized unless it needs to be. For example, a recent article I wrote, '']'', was partially translated and posted at French wiki, titled ''Les Peintres cubistes. Méditations esthétiques'', even though the original publication uses Caps. Those are the ''règles de typographie'' they use. I'm still not sure why "Du" should be capitalized though. :-) ] (]) 04:44, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
:Hi ], I was under the same impression as you. In the French wiki articles for both Jehan Du Seigneur and Maxime Du Camp, the Du is capitalized. I can only assume this is correct. At French wiki they are very strict about capitalization. Nothing is capitalized unless it needs to be. For example, a recent article I wrote, '']'', was partially translated and posted at French wiki, titled ''Les Peintres cubistes. Méditations esthétiques'', even though the original publication uses Caps. Those are the ''règles de typographie'' they use. I'm still not sure why "Du" should be capitalized though. :-) ] (]) 04:44, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
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Dear Coldcreation, for the WIKIPEDIA article on Abstract Expressionism to present a list of 100 artists as being: ''“'''Significant artists whose mature work defined American Abstract Expressionism'''”'' seems to be grossly overstated and very subjective, without presenting anything to validate the statement. Note that ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], and ] and many more on the list cannot be considered as Major Abstract Expressionist Artists whose mature work defined American Abstract Expressionism. Calder belonged to the “Kinetic Art Movement” and the others played no significant role and were minor contributors to the Abstract Expressionist Movement. Because only a small number of the 100 artists on the list actually defined AAE, I requested (on the Talk Page of the Article) that the introduction to the “List of abstract expressionists Major Artists” be changed to read: ''"'''Significant artists some of whose major work helped to define American Abstract Expressionism.'''”'' Please consider entering this discussion as I believe this needs to be corrected. (I do thank you, for "correcting" me, and now I believe something else need to be corrected.) ] (]) 22:49, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
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The image, a photograph of Jean Metzinger, published in 1913, can be found directly in the 1913 publication, or here: http://books.google.es/books?id=qYATQ3Rw6qgC&q=metzinger#v=snippet&q=metzinger&f=false The cubist painters By Guillaume Apollinaire, translated and analyzed by Peter F. Read, University of California Press, 25 oct. 2004 - 234 pages.
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Hi, I'm not sure whether you knew that Robert Antoine Pinchon had been nominated for Did You Know? I've now reviewed it and have some concerns; could you have a look? In particular, there are several paragraphs with no reference, and Did You Know requires at least one reference per paragraph. I also think from the style and length in some places that you may have translated the Lespinasse book a bit too closely, but I can't see it to verify. Yngvadottir (talk) 22:28, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
From Coldcreation: Hi, thanks for your time spent. I've gone back and fixed up a few things (see edits) and added the citations where needed. Indeed, the Lespinasse book is a great source, not just for text but for photos. I did my best to put some of his writings into my own words. Otherwise I would place quotes around the text (in the case of a literal translation, usually short) Coldcreation (talk) 15:59, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
Yes, I did see; thanks for all that effort! I did some further shortening and rewording and added two more mid-paragraph refs to Lespinasse on the assumption those facts were also from there. And I replaced the mention of a photo of him painting at age 12 with the one of a photo of him painting at age 8 that was in at least two sources I can see, and referenced it from one of them. I think between us we have probably eliminated any overly close translation there may have been, so I have given it its tick. Yngvadottir (talk) 20:09, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
Coldcreation wrote: The photograph of R.A. Pinchon, on page 14 of Lespinasse, 2007, is from 1898. The painting pictured in that photograph is dated 98. He is clearly not 8 years old in that picture. So I can only assume that sources stating he is 8 years old are mistaken. Note too that there is, on the same page in Lespinasse, a color reproduction of the painting with the date visible. From 1 July 1898 Pinchon was 12. Aside from that change (which I just made) everything else appears accurate.Coldcreation (talk) 06:38, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
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a book about Joseph Csaky to the Further reading section of the article about him and you removed it,calling it "unproductive"?. What would be considered a productive title to add? Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 19:16, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
Perhaps 'unproductive' was not the right word. Sorry for that. But that book by Balas is referenced in the article 15 times (See section entitled References). There is no need to place the same reference in the article in yet another section: 'Further reading', which is already loaded with further things to read.Coldcreation (talk) 19:33, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
Makes sense. I felt that I was having a "productive" day editing and that word just hit me wrong. Life is supposed to be interesting. Carptrash (talk) 19:39, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
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Excellent, thanks Mandarax, I think both the artist and the painting (wherever it may or may not be) merit the nomination. Good article, by the way, your Georg Muche. Coldcreation (talk) 19:44, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. I had difficulty with the Muche article and was just glad to be done with it. I wish I was as good a writer as you are, but I plod along doing the best I can.... MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM21:58, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
I hadn't looked at the Jean Metzinger article for a long time. Not long ago, when it was a tiny stub, I put it on my long list of articles that I'd like to expand some day. Wow, I checked it out today. Thanks for enabling me to cross that off the list! I'm sure you did a much better job than I would have. Ah, I just wish it had been nominated for DYK. It's been on my watchlist forever, but I guess I missed it when you were working on the expansion. (Alas, the vandals get more of my watchlist attention.) Thanks for the great work you're doing! MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM10:54, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
The DYK stalled because someone left an absolutely ridiculous comment (the 201-character hook was over the limit of 200) and, unfortunately, there's a mentality at DYK that, once someone has added a comment, no matter how ridiculous, nobody else will touch the nomination. Somebody finally left a useful comment – that there are some unreferenced paragraphs. DYK guidelines suggest that there be at least one inline citation for every paragraph other than the lead (with a few exceptions). Can you add citations to the paragraphs which have none? Thanks. Oh, and thanks again for all of your hard work. These days, I think you're the person who pops up on my watchlist most often. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM07:40, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
I saw the notice yesterday, Mandarax. Was waiting to see the number of views. I'm glad it idid well, will hold a place in the hall of fame and be permanently archived. I think Metzinger would have appreciated it too had he been around. Such a sensitive and intelligent man, he deserves the recognition for sure. Thanks again Mandarax... Coldcreation (talk) 10:30, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
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''Carton d'invitation à l'exposition Csaky chez Léonce Rosenberg'', Galerie l'Effort Moderne (Galerie Léonce Rosenberg}, Carton illustré au pochoir, 3 couleurs (printed), 12,5 x 16 cm, 1920, Paris. Source : Kandinsky
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on canvas, 81.3 x 54.3 cm. Jacques Lipchitz, Paris, acquired directly from the artist, 1916-c. 1921]; by exchange to Léonce Rosenberg, Paris, c. 1921-1922
inscribed: "pour Léonce Rosenberg, très amicalement AG", Rosenberg inventory number: AM 2000-206 (14, Centre Georges Pompidou]
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On 19 June 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article En Canot, Im Boot (Metzinger), which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Jean Metzinger's painting En Canot(pictured in black and white) appeared in the Nazi Degenerate Art catalogue with the notation "Even this was once taken seriously and bought for good money!"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/En Canot, Im Boot (Metzinger). You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
Why does the title of that Jean Metzinger painting, contain a French mistake? Do you know what the history behind it is? Contact Basemetalhere19:49, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
Good question Basemetal. The source of the error, as far back as I could find, is from a publication: Neo-Impressionism, Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum, Robert L. Herbert, 1968.
In Neo-Impressionism it is written on page 219:
161 LANDSCAPE (COUCHER DU SOLEIL). 1906-1907
Oil on canvas, 28 1/2 x 39 1/4" (72.5 x 100 cm.).
Signed l.r. "J. Metzinger" and verso "Couchée de soleil no. 1".
Verso: RlVER SCENE WlTH SHlPS.
Collection Rijksmuseum Kröller-Müller, Otterlo.
There is a a photograph of the verso of the painting in the same publication. The title Metzinger wrote on the back is in fact neither COUCHER DU SOLEIL (Coucher du soleil) or Couchée de soleil no. 1
Next to Metzinger's signature on the reverse, the title reads: Coucher de soleil. The n° 1 is written above that title.
Unfortunately, I had not examined very closely the back of the work or I clearly would have seen Metzinger's actual title before publishing this article. Note: the verso has another painting (River scene with ships) upon which is superimposed, upside down relative to the River scene, Metzinger actual title. There is a mosaic-like rectangle of paint above the "e" of Coucher that looks like an acute accent (accent aigu). However, the "r" that follows is certainly not another "e" forming 'Couchée' as Robert Herbert must have thought.
So the correct title of this work is indeed Coucher de soleil no. 1.
Now all I need to figure out is how to change the title of the article. In the mean time I will, thanks to your inquiry, change the title where it appears in the article. Thanks again Basemetal. EDIT-> I've just added this discussion to the talk page of the article in question. Coldcreation (talk) 21:20, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
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Thank you for creating and contributing to quality articles on art, artists and their works, such as Geometric abstraction, Antoni Tàpies, En Canot, and for defining yourself by your and their work alone with that gallery of a user page, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!
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These are low resolution images used for encyclopedic purposes. They are essential to the articles in question. Please do not remove them for their respective articles. In the mean time, I will look into the {{PD-1923}} tag possibility. Thanks for you help. Coldcreation (talk) 19:21, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
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Hello Tomer T. Yes, sorry, I should have explained as I made the change (EDIT: though I notice you did not give a reason for your edit either). I happened upon the Renoir article a few days ago and was pleasantly surprised to see a photo of the artist snapped during his first artistic peak, at a time around which he was painting Le Moulin de la Galette, during the Impressionist period, before the turn of the century, at a time when he was considered as a ground-breaking artist.
The image of Renoir you included (in place of the former) is similar to the ones found throughout the Internet, of a Renoir towards the end of his career, well beyond his prime as an artist, at a time when Impressionism had already been replaced as an avant-garde phenomenon first by Symbolism, then Neo-Impressionism, Divisionism, Fauvism, and even Proto-Cubism (c. 1910). If you would like to discuss the matter further, to reach some form of general consensus, feel free to post in the Talk section of the Renoir article. Coldcreation (talk) 07:36, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
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We cannot change the alignment of the gallery tag as this template is baked into mediawiki but imho the packed mode, easier on the eye, overcomes this inconvenient. Hope this helps. Alberto Fernández Fernández (talk) 19:57, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
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Thanks for your message Carptrash. I actually had started to create a stub for Miklos yesterday, then got sidetracked. I will put something together very shortly, and expand it at a later date. Coldcreation (talk) 06:04, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
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Coldcreation - I'd rather see the quote showcased within the article. It is a striking quote, and was selected by art critic John Berger for special mention. It does more good than harm where it is. Perhaps the quote in the lower section can be removed, it you prefer. What do you think?36hourblock (talk) 19:22, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
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Dear Coldcreation,
You have reverted my corrections to Bohr's Philosophy section. I have made every effort to comply with the Misplaced Pages guidelines, but if I have missed anything I would appreciate an openly voiced correction, rather than a silent deletion. As it currently is, the article grossly misrepresents a very important aspect of Bohr's life, and showing only one side of this issue violates every principle of honest representation. I would be happy to consider any specific and relevant criticisms on the matter, but for the integrity of the article and the quality of your own reputation it seems in your interest to undo this deletion for now. Thank you for your work.
If you would like to include your text in the article post it first in the Talk page for consensus. Nothing personal, but the article seemed better before your post. The quote you used was unrelated to Bohr (per your source link), and the long sentences were awkwardly composed. Certainly, you could come up with another way of saying what you wrote. Using shorter sentences may help, along with quotes directly related to Bohr's position on the topic. Thanks for your comprehension. Coldcreation (talk) 07:38, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
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Thank you for uploading the picture "Idyllische Flusslandschaft.jpg", but, most of the pictures I had inserted before on the Paul Biva page have been deleted (and probably those you mention as having worked on because they were "floues") because they had not been officially published before : i.e. in an exhibition catalogue, or by a commercial publisher. Even pictures from auction sales are not allowed, although they may have been published in a catalogue. Therefore your picture "Idyllische Flusslandschaft.jpg", from the catalogue of the auctioneers Dorotheum will probably be deleted by the same robot or "cleaner". I have the feeling that the French wikipedia is a lot stricter than the English/American one. Otherwise i would have many more pictures form both Henri, Paul and Lucien Biva to upload !--Martine Vidal (talk) 18:09, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
Dear Martine Vidal, thanks for your input and contribution to the Biva articles. Wikimedia Commons is an online repository of free-use images. The work of Paul Biva is in the public domain in countries with a copyright term of life of the author plus 100 years or less. I've just added the template PD-art-100 to the Commons images for Paul Biva. There is no reason why the photos you uploaded cannot be used in the French Paul Biva article. The user that removed them for the Paul Biva article was not justified in doing so. They need not be published. My only recommendation is to use good quality images. Pictures from auction sales are allowed. The images you uploaded are in the public domain because they represent works of art painted by a French artist who died more than 100 years ago. I will see if I can find some nice works by P. Biva online, and I will upload them to Commons, then I will proceed to post them in the French Paul Biva article. Let me know what you think. P.S. I would love for you to upload more Paul and Henri Biva works to Commons. Coldcreation (talk) 18:49, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
Martine, I've just upload to Commons some works by Paul Biva. They are now in the French Misplaced Pages article Paul Biva. See Galerie. I also modified the image of Paul himself; a wonderful photo by the way. I hope the enhancement to your liking. Do you have any photographs of Henri Biva? Coldcreation (talk) 00:55, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
Bonjour, many thanks for the addition of the Paul Biva Galerie; I do hope it stays uploaded. The argument given for deleting my own images was : "retrait de sources primaires (ventes aux enchères)", and I had this, previously : "L'article est illustré de plusieurs œuvres émanant d'une « collection privée ». Si ces œuvres n'ont pas été reproduites dans des sources secondaires vérifiables (monographies éditées à compte d'éditeur, catalogue d'exposition de musée reconnu, article dans la presse...), elles constituent des sources primaires et devront donc être retirées. --90.2.33.82 (d) 7 octobre 2012 à 23:35 (CEST)".
The pictures I might add are from my personal collection of paintings, so I expect they would even less qualify, but I will try as soon as I have time. Again many thanks for your help. --Martine Vidal (talk) 16:48, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
Hi Martine. The person that informed you and deleted the images didn't know what s/he was doing. These images (yours included) are perfectly usable in Wikimedia Commons, and thus in Misplaced Pages for any country that respects the PD-art-100 law, copyright term of life of the author plus 100 years. All Paul Biva (and Henri Biva) works are in the public domain in the source country: in this case France. If anyone removes the images let me know.
So, do you have any Henri Biva images (of the artist or his work) that you would be willing to share? A long time ago, 9 March 2012, after correcting dates for Henri Biva and for Lucien Biva, you wrote "I have a few more details about the Biva family that I may add". I'm still waiting? : ) Coldcreation (talk) 18:32, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
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On New Year's Day, 600 years ago, Giovanni Bellini began work on a rather large "Dejeuner sur l'herbe" but having set up the models and commenced the painting, he soon found that he was in no fit state to continue it. At this point Titian stepped in. That's him on the extreme left. Bellini is sleeping it off under a bush.
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Hi! You reverted my removal of copyvio material from Dick Higgins even though I clearly described it as such in my edit summary, and gave the link, http://archives2.getty.edu:8082/xtf/view?docId=ead/870613/870613.xml. You also did the same at three other articles. I'm quite sure you didn't mean to add copyright-infringing material to the encyclopaedia, but that is what you have done. Rather than undo your edits, I thought it would be more polite to ask you to do so yourself. Best regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 10:23, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
Hello Justlettersandnumbers. There is likely a misunderstanding. I simply replaced the External links you removed from three articles. While it is not recommended to provide many external links, several you removed were of importance. They should probably be selectively included rather than across-the-board deleted (as you have done). Your Getty links appears valuable, and so I will leave you to choose the course of action to take. Though I would dislike to see many more mass-deletions of external links in the near future (as I feel they add often precious information to the encyclopedic content provided to our users). As far as I know, adding external links does not amount to adding copyright-infringing material. Thanks for your kind message. Coldcreation (talk) 11:03, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for your pleasant reply. The copyvio is not in the link, but in the description that follows it, which in almost every case this user, whose only activity under three or perhaps four names has been to spam links to the Getty archive (not something that is likely to please that outstanding institution), has copied verbatim from the archive description. If you feel that the links themselves are valuable (they were, as I recall, also broken, btw), then I will probably just remove the descriptions from them if I do not find that you have already done so when I get around to that.
On external links in general, it's my opinion that since excessive external links are generally discouraged and numerous references are encouraged, the best thing to do with useful links is to use them as references. What about something like "His papers are now in the Getty Foundation archive"<ref>? Best regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 16:20, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
Greetings! I have reverted your bold move of Daniel Robbins so that the move may be discussed. Per Misplaced Pages:Requested moves, potentially controversial moves must be discussed through a move request before the move is carried out. Any move of a page with a longstanding title and/or a large number of incoming links should be considered potentially controversial. Furthermore, per WP:TWODABS, it is not necessary to have a disambiguation page if there are only two possible meanings of a term, and one of them can be considered the primary topic of the term. In that case, it is sufficient to place a hatnote at the top of the primary topic page indicating the existence of the other page. Since no discussion has occurred with respect to these articles, no evidence has been presented to upset the presumption that the longstanding page at this title is the primary topic of this title. Cheers! bd2412T14:10, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
Hello Coldcreation. Your requested move at Talk:Daniel Robbins#Requested move has run for seven days but is now up for closure. So far nobody but yourself has commented. If I were to close it now, most likely the result would be No Move, since the programmer Daniel Robbins has more than 250 incoming links on Misplaced Pages. This is not really a judgment on the world-historical importance of either person, but when there are only two people to be distinguished, putting a hatnote on the top of one of them is commonly done. Which one will get the unqualified name, and which one gets the hatnote, is negotiable but may not be a crucial decision. I also discussed this at User talk:BD2412#Talk:Daniel Robbins#Requested move. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 19:50, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the suggestions. I don't think the number of incoming links should trump notability, so another week would probably be a good idea. Coldcreation (talk) 01:39, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
The Kiss
Thanks for pointing out the error in my poorly thought page-move. I felt the best way to correct it was a three-part move: I moved Rodin's sculpture back to "The Kiss (Rodin sculpture)", while moving, for consistency, Brâncuși's sculpture to "The Kiss (Brâncuși sculpture)". Meanwhile, I made "The Kiss (sculpture)" a disambiguation page. Please feel free to comment and/or fix/revert anything I may have screwed up. Thanks again! Joefromrandb (talk) 05:43, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
The works of Paul Dubois- French sculptor
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Just to say that I appreciate your efforts in cleaning up my piece on Dubois. Never sure whether to put "musée" or "Musée"! Thanks again
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Hi, you undid my edit, saying "source needed for such a claim" . WP:LEADCITE advises
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Feel free to revert my revert, but the list of things Picasso did is already extensive in the intro. He also enjoyed shooting photographs. But this fact and the ones you wrote are not the most important points covered in the article, which is the purpose of the lead. Perhaps the word artist is sufficient. Coldcreation (talk) 14:10, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
The term "artist" encompasses all the other activities, but isn't usually understood to include writing. —rybec21:20, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
Your revert of my edits to Arthur Dove is in direct contracted with the policy-backed consensus at WP:NFCR. Regardless of whether there is a FUR, consensus determined that the images fail WP:NFCC and should therefore be removed. I do not care either way, I just made the close as an uninvolved editor. -- ТимофейЛееСуда. 22:30, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
I do apologize for raising my caps; you are correct that was uncalled for. Also, I should have phrased it better, I do not care if the images are used. But I do care if policy is followed and consensus determined that those images did not. It looks like there are many many paintings by Dove that are in the public domain. The other option is to make the images not violate WP:NFCC (specifically #8) and gain consensus for their inclusion. As an outsider, it looks like there is no context of the Me and the Moon image in the infobox. Per WP:NFCC there must be critical commentary and there was none. For the other image (Nature Symbolized or Reefs) the article only discusses that he creates it. Point 8 of WP:NFCC requires that there be content in the article about the non-free images that requires the images be included. What this breaks down to is you don't need to see the image to know he painted it. But if there were content about the style he painted on that specific image, and why he painted, or the colors, etc, it would be necessary to the image being there. Good luck with whatever you choose to do. -- ТимофейЛееСуда. 22:46, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
Yes it does. See https://fr.wikipedia.org/Utilisateur:Coldcreation2 and User:Coldcreation2 where it is mentioned (no puppetry involved) with a link to User:Coldcreation. I would love to have only one account (Coldcreation), and I thought I registered with Unified login (for Commons, Wikiquotes, etc. where I also contribute). For some reason when I edited French articles only my IP address showed up. If you know how to unify my accounts let me know. Coldcreation (talk) 14:10, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
I see you have canceled several times ARTUNAD's changes on Gustave Miklos's page. ARTUNAD was recently blocked 24h on French Misplaced Pages for vandalism and multiple passages strength. This is a repeat offender. Because of him, Heddryin put the blindfold R3R on Gustave Miklos's page (French Misplaced Pages). I quote Heddryin (28/11/2013) : "Malgré de nombreuses remarques de différents contributeurs, ARTUNAD continue à imposer son point de vue dans cet article. Le bandeau R3R est mis en place".
Its main source is the book of Mrs Danuta Cichocka (Gustave Miklos. Un Grand œuvre caché), published in September 2013 by her own publishing house (so without no review committee). This book was rejected as source on French Misplaced Pages because it has no reputation (it is just allowed to appear in the bibliography section).
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Hi, would you like to add some text about Doucet's hotel to Jacques Doucet just to give the image a bit more context? As it currently stands, it is floating there, without contextualisation, and doesn't relate to anything currently in the article text. I nearly removed it as a good-faith edit, but thought I'd ask you first if you had any interest in expanding the article with a section about the hotel to contextualise it. I HAVE moved the image to the other side though, as it knocked the layout a bit out. All best, Mabalu (talk) 13:33, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
I added some info (much of it in the image caption already, now in the main body of text also), but will be back to elaborated further still later. Coldcreation (talk) 13:52, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
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I work with the Clyfford Still Museum and have been attempting to strengthen the Clyfford Still wikipedia page. The times I have made edits, they have been deleted. Just know that we are gathering our references to make the content verifiable, and would appreciate some feedback or comments form you concerning the success of the page. Which parts need citations immediately, and which can be added after the skeleton of the page is fleshed out?
When making changes in the article, please briefly describe the changes you have made in the Edit summary (located towards the bottom of the page you are editing). Also, note that you can make changes and preview them before actually saving the page (by clicking on the Show preview button, next to Save). In this way you can make several changes before finally saving a number of changes. This will make it easier for other editors to view the changes you've made. If you feel some of your previous edits to the Clyfford Still article are worthy of retaining feel free to reintroduce the material, but be sure to provide sources and references. A final note, be careful not to remove references and sources linked to the material already in the article, as you did in this edit. Thanks, Coldcreation (talk) 17:49, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
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I have changed back the edits you have made to song titles on the Genesis page. I think you will find on articles for many other acts that songs are in speech marks and album titles are in italics, so the Genesis article was correct and consistent with other pages before you made your changes.Rodericksilly (talk) 22:14, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
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Hi, you appear to be a little trigger happy with your undo's at Georges Seurat. From the history, I can see there is a lot of vandalism and assorted nonsense going on, resulting in endless undos. Maybe you are not accustomed to seeing any constructive edits?
You removed sourced and perfectly referenced material
You removed an image which is actually discussed in the text and which depicts a person discussed in the text
You removed an image which illustrates his life/death
Your summary says: "Only major works". Since when? why? This is about an individual. Images illustrating subject's life are perfectly okay.
You earlier removed his (sourced) date of birth from his bio because it is "a repetition of the intro". An intro is a summary, a bio is supposed to be complete. As a result of your edit, Seurat's date of birth is currently unsourced again.
This article really needs some help (lots of unsourced material, errors, glaring omissions) and is rather poor for a major artist like this. I would be happy to help, but not like this. Cheers, Superp (talk) 06:37, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
Perhaps you are correct. Though his birth dates is already mentioned twice in the article (lead and infobox). A third time may not be needed. No source for this date was removed. An image of his sepulture at Cimetière du Père-Lachaise is certainly not needed in the article (it neither illustrates his life or death). Imagine how many gravestone images would be found at Misplaced Pages if such were included in all article about dead people (or even half of them). In this case it adds nothing to the article. Feel free to add more material but make sure you provide sources. Coldcreation (talk) 07:20, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
Hi again.
Summary: you complain about unsourced material, but I added none. You revert edits which add valid sources instead. Confusion ensues.
I actually bought this book (new, very well researched I think, great illustrations) partly because I thought it would be a valuable WP source. I came to this article because I think it could be better. Almost everything I did so far, though I referenced it down to the exact page number, was kicked out by you. Seeing my edits being reverted like this demotivates like hell.
As an aside, if you are an art lover and interested in Seurat c.s., get the book. ISBN9789073313286.
I have taken the time again to inspect every single edit I did, and can not find one bit that I did not ref. You keep talking about unsourced stuff. Can you please point out this alleged unsourced material, so I can improve my work method if needed? Please provide a link to the diff. Thank you.
Seurat's birthdate was unsourced. After my edit, it was sourced. Now, after your revert, it is unsourced again. How is this better?
The bit about Knoblock/Knobloch and their first child was unsourced. I added facts and a source, you reverted, so now we have unsourced text again and less facts. Why?
That's two fact/ref relations I added, you rev'd.
The tomb situation: you formulate a personal opinion as a fact. I think, on the other hand, the img brings across the time Seurat lived and his family background. Nothing wrong with feeding the other half of the brain. It's something we could discuss.
If you want me to contribute to the article, let me put this nicely, we have to work together in a different way. This is just frustrating and wasting my time.
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Hi. I'm Doug 4. I noticed that you reverted my photo change for the Henry Moore sculpture on the Modernism page. I agree that a bronze would be preferable to the white painted plaster, but the photo angle of that bronze sculpture doesn't give an adequate sense of the sculpture's form, which for me is what distinguishes his work. I was looking on Misplaced Pages for something more like "Reclining Mother and Child" (1960-1), but the "Reclining Figure" (1951) was the best I could find. Doug4 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 22:49, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
Hello ColdCreation. I think this photo might be a better choice. Reclining Figure (1957-1958) by Henry Moore in front of the Kunsthaus Zürich, Zürich, Switzerland.What do you think?
The sculpture looks good and is quite representative of the artists work. Though I wish the photographer would have cropped the background, or framed the sculpture a little closer during the photoshoot. I'll let you make the call. Best. Coldcreation (talk) 21:15, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, saw that discussion now, but still, I think the pictures really is not quite enough to demonstrate Monet's diversity, and development. Many of them are the same: it's all water-lilies and ponds and bridges and and La Gare Saint-Lazare... it is getting close to a kind of clichés. Actually same with van Gogh too, he made so many paintings that are airy, using pinks and light blues -and NOT always the strong colours he is known for. Anyway - Monet has many less iconic, but wonderful pictures worth showing - don't want to create the idea that Monet=water lillies. Maybe it will be an an other article, if there is no place for them there. Hafspajen (talk) 19:42, 16 September 2014 (UTC).
I fully understand your point and sympathize with you. However, this discussion should take place on the Monet Talk page rather than here. That will likely be another heated debate within which I will gladly participate. Cheers. Coldcreation (talk) 20:00, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
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Sorry about that - I didn't see that there was already another very similar image. Thanks for noticing. Perhaps the image I was inserting is a clearer one, so maybe it should be swapped in to the place where the other rodin-signature is now? Wittylama15:24, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
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I regret informing you that the big image (Totem) illustrating the english page of Gustave Miklos, this image is not included in his Catalogue raisonné (publishing 2014). So is not the work of Miklos. It will be more careful to remove it.
Contact me if you need the assistant to make the new choice because unfortunatly for this artist, on Web and Wikimedia Communs, we find more of falses than of the originals works of Miklos.
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I have just blocked Minato ku (talk·contribs) for a clear 3RR-violation on Paris, but I have to warn you too – while you didn't get beyond the count of 3, you too were clearly edit-warring, and I cannot think that the POV and sourcing issue you were disagreeing over with Minato ku was of such a kind that blanket reverts (rather than, for instance, attempts at compromise edits or edits synthesizing both sets of statements in question) would have been the only solution, so this was clearly not constructive behaviour on either side. Fut.Perf.☼21:05, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
Since you suggested paring down the correspondence section of the draft, I was wondering if you had a preference in mind, such as removing one or abridging the longest ones? Nonc01 (talk) 02:27, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
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Dear Coldcreation:
I really appreciate your edits and careful work on the Paris article; you're one of the few calm voices on the project. I did notice that for the tourism statistics, you link to the 2013 report from the Visitor and Convention Bureau, which gives 2012 figures. Did you know that the 2014 report is on line, with the 2013 figures? You can find it on the Convention and Tourism site. Please keep up the good work! SiefkinDR (talk) 12:11, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for that SiefkinDR. I had a feeling the updated version might be online but didn't have time to search for it. I will now. Coldcreation (talk) 12:33, 25 November 2014 (UTC
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I would like to add my thanks to the above by SiefkinDR: as a result of your bringing in these references, hard work of many hours by THEPROMENADER✎✓ , Siefkin & a couple others will not be contested & automatically removed. You're cool!
I saw that. Perhaps I will upload that image to wiki as Non-free media with a use rationale for a couple of articles. That image needs to be seen. Coldcreation (talk) 12:10, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
Yes and no. Initially, I thought like you. But if we have a decent PD image, do we really need a fair use one ? I leave it up to you... Cheers, — Racconish13:20, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
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Noticed you removed a lot of them. Is there any reason behind it? I know Smallbones dislike them, but I think they do add to the articles. If there is any discussion on it I want to add it there too. Hafspajen (talk) 14:22, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for bringing up this issue Hafspajen. I would love to know where this can be discussed. The problem with those external media Smarthistory videos, and their respective templates, is that they are all too often placed within the main body of text of a given article. They belong in External links. Occasionally, they reproduce images that are already in an article. In addition, Smarthistory adds references to these videos that appear in the Reference section of the article, when they are not at all references for the article content. The result of the latter is that the word Smarthistory appears 10 or more times within a given article (always bluelinked). This, and the placing of the templates within the main text, is a spam-like tactic probably used to drum up business for Smarthistory. This type of vandalism (or at least it can be seen as such) needs to stop. Whereas a small block of links in the External links section of an article, where I've place some of these templates, is eventually acceptable, the vast majority of smarthistory templates are still located scattered throughout the main body of text in many articles still. Coldcreation (talk) 14:44, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
Ah, I get that now. OK, thanks for the explanation. I guess where the only problem is that it is the same picture, we could just change the image, (if that's the main problem in some places, not the overlink). Hafspajen (talk) 15:41, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
That's not the main problem. The main problem is the placement of large External media infoboxes in the main article or See also sections, rather than where it belongs, in the External link section; in addition to the problem of over-linking the name Smarthistory, and the abuse of references relating to Smarthistory. Are you the editor who has added these templates everywhere? Coldcreation (talk) 16:45, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
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I know the general rules linked above and understand them perfectly well. Art movements, however, are somewhat of an exception. Most of the relevant literature (in art related books, museums and so on) capitalizes art movements. For this reason, Misplaced Pages users accustomed to writing and editing articles within the scope of WikiProject Visual arts tend to write art movements begin with a capital letters. Thanks for your understanding. Coldcreation (talk) 18:21, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
Sure Mikhail Ryazanov. Pointillism is a technique of painting used by the Neo-Impressionists. Techniques of painting are not capitalized. The Divisionists, too, used a similar technique of patterns to form images, though with larger cube-like brushstrokes. That is not very clear in the article about pointillism, but I will modify that text shortly. Finally, whether capitalization is needed or not for art movements I do not know. But in the art world that is the rule, rather than the exception. Coldcreation (talk) 03:28, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
I don't get your point on the incident page - I did not complain about the image, I complained about the behaviour. You cannot roll someone back for good faith edits even if you are "guarding" a page. Can you explain more on the page? Hekerui (talk) 09:20, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
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His name was already in that article, I just made sure that it would link to mine. If you're sure that he wasn't represented there, by all means, delete him. WQUlrich (talk) 21:20, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
I see...maybe some confusion (although the link leads to Paul Huet). The placement of Martin's name does make it look like an afterthought, and he's not really as notable as the others (and somewhat earlier). Maybe it's in that reference #4?. It seems to be the basis for the article. WQUlrich (talk) 21:36, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
I was just looking at your user page. When it comes to art, I'm the one who should be asking you questions!!. I've done almost four-hundred articles on relatively obscure painters (most of whom I had never heard of before) but it's just something I came up with to kill time and keep my brain working (I'm retired). Suggestions, comments and criticism are welcomed. WQUlrich (talk) 21:49, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
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Hello Coldcreation, "Totem" is not included in Catalogue raisonné of his painting. It will be better to erase it or to change it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.89.75.248 (talk) 16:33, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
I've just uploaded and posted an image of the painting with more accurate colors. That previous image from a book is far too saturated. Oil paints do not exist in those colors. Coldcreation (talk) 11:43, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
Adam Cuerden will make an attempt to feature the portrait of Rosa Bonheur.
Just letting you know it because you are the main editor on the article. This is why he put the image in the infobox, because it will give it a better chance, and he will now start working on the image restoration. Hope it is OK? Also see my talk. Hafspajen (talk) 10:15, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
Ok, excellent. I just removed one row of black pixels from bottom and right of the that photo. These pixels were not needed in the image and in fact were a distraction. They were visible at ordinary scale as thin black lines. Now they are no longer. Coldcreation (talk) 11:15, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
Hafspajen, I just checked the original source of the photo, the black pixels are not there, so it must have been an artifact that came with the capturing of the image. Coldcreation (talk) 11:19, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
That was, of course, going to be part of the restoration. Let's leave the crop for now, but we'll want to revert it eventually, as the original image linked to should be the original, after all, not a modification. =)
That said, I wish Hafspajen wouldn't make everything justified solely by FPs; there's far better reasons than that for the change, and I think "I want an FP for the article" is, generally speaking, a weak argument if not backed by other reasons. The Legion of Honour photo, while good in the abstract, is a small half-toned rather faded copy. I think it's generally better to lead with your best image (it encourages clicking through, for instance, as if they see the first image is good, they're more likely to check the others. In this case, the best image is either the Klumpke painting, or the Disdéri photo; all other things being equal, I prefer the camera, as artistic portraits can be a little inaccurate. We also have a section on her gaining the Legion of Honour which I originally put said Legion of Honour photo as near as possible to. Adam Cuerden11:22, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
As stated above, the rows of black pixels on the bottom and right of the image (now removed) are not present in the source image. And so no need to revert back to them. Coldcreation (talk) 11:28, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
It's because of a flaw in the JPEG codec. Progressive saving as JPEG degrades an image, so I'll be editing from the one nearest the original capture, repeating your crop. But restoration requires documenting exactly what you used as your source. Adam Cuerden11:31, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
You sort out image guys. Adam, let me just say a word= Pedro. Coldcreation is an excellent editor, very reasonable and it is fair to involve him in this decision. Hafspajen (talk) 11:31, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
Also, Coldcreation - Adam has like 100 images that were FP nominated and passed, if anyone he will succeded to fix this. Hafspajen (talk) 11:34, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
I perfectly agree, Hafs. I'm just explaining JPEG's lossy nature to him, as the reasons for not keeping the crop are nothing to do with the merits of the crop - which is 100% justified - but because JPEG is lossy, and I need to have the exact file I worked from uploaded, which has to be the least edited copy to avoid JPEG's progressive degredation. Really, Google Art Project captures should be PNGs. I didn't think I was having a fight with Coldstream... Adam Cuerden11:37, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
I rather think Adam Cuerden, that if you should co-nom it - it should be with Coldcreation, not me. He should be the one credited too. He was involved with specifically the image before. I just put that into the article. Hafspajen (talk) 14:21, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
DYK for The Cubist Painters, Aesthetic Meditations
This entry was for a school project. Please allow it to stay up for at least 2 weeks because my professor needs to check that I did the assignment. Fix it if you must after that date. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Southshoresiren (talk • contribs) 00:02, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
In 20 minutes you could have that text all fixed up. See The Cubist Painters, Aesthetic Meditations if you need further citations.There are plenty there that discuss Laurencin. (To see how to post citations, click on edit). Just make sure non of what you write is your personal opinion, without having a source to back it up. Then post it on the Laurencin page. I look forward to reading it. Coldcreation (talk) 04:25, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
I hate to say this, but I think that not italicizing the newspapers, but italicizing the article titles is wrong. Adam Cuerden05:04, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
You're entitled to your opinion. However, as explained in the edit summary, consistency with the Bibliography section is the key. Many (unfortunately not all) of the citations are written this way too. Coldcreation (talk) 05:11, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
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Coldcreation, I don't understand the reason for your revert of my edit at Mikalojus Konstantinas Čiurlionis. On my screen, a separation between A Day and the gallery turns the gallery into five lines of five pics each, whereas on my screen your revert makes it 3-5-5-5-5-2.
I know Hafs uses a wider screen than my so-called 'standard screen,' so that may be part of the explanation – ?? Sca (talk) 14:12, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
Huh? Coldcreation is a friend of mine, who was just trying to help, did nothing but revert to pre-Lotje version, as it was before.
Hafs! I wasn't being hostile. Just asking. Sca (talk)
I don't really know why is that happened on your screen ... I thought we were happy with that version. Could be that a painting crashing the gallery 3+2 under sounds like it, I will now try clear. Hafspajen (talk) 14:21, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
How's now?
Yes, looks fine here. Thanks – and sorry if someone took the question the wrong way.
I've never seen that spacer - thing before (I have nothing against it though), but yes, my revert was primarily for the references, they were fine before Lotje's intervention. Lotje's semi-automated reference aid makes a mess of perfectly fine references. For some reason Lotje calls them bare references, or bare links, which they are not at all. I've reverted several of Lotje's edits in other articles as well, for the same reason. Coldcreation (talk) 14:43, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
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If someone is not familiar with image policy, shouldn't edit art articles, and I am seriously considering having a conference with all our regular art editors about hyow to handle this disuption the above mentioned editor is causing on art articles. Maybe on Wikiproject. Noticed she was tring to cause disruption on The Cubist Painters, Aesthetic Meditations this time. Before it was here and here. See previous discussions (water of a duck's back) both here and here page. And pretending she has no idea about it. Hafspajen (talk) 14:37, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
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In the New York Frick Collection, two portraits by Holbein hang facing each other on the same wall of the Living Hall, one depicting Thomas Cromwell, the other Thomas More, whose execution he had procured.
I'm trying to figure out how two portraits could face each other but be hung on the same wall. The only thing I can think of is that the wall is curved. Do you have any way of checking this? CorinneSD (talk) 04:22, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
Hi CorinneSD, Looking in google images, it look like the two portraits are profiles (almost), so that the two subjects appear to look towards each other, even though on the same wall. In addition, it does look like the wall is slightly curved. :-) Coldcreation (talk) 05:15, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
Hello, Coldcreation - I thought French last names starting with "de" or "du" generally were not capitalized (the "de" or "du", I mean), or is that an individual choice? In the article on Théophile Gautier most names do not have the "de" or "du" capitalized, but in the fifth paragraph in Théophile Gautier#Life and times I found "Jehan Du Seigneur", and in the section Théophile Gautier#Influences, I found "Maxime Du Camp", who has an article, and in that article the "Du" is capitalized. It just looks strange. CorinneSD (talk) 23:34, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
Hi CorinneSD, I was under the same impression as you. In the French wiki articles for both Jehan Du Seigneur and Maxime Du Camp, the Du is capitalized. I can only assume this is correct. At French wiki they are very strict about capitalization. Nothing is capitalized unless it needs to be. For example, a recent article I wrote, The Cubist Painters, Aesthetic Meditations, was partially translated and posted at French wiki, titled Les Peintres cubistes. Méditations esthétiques, even though the original publication uses Caps. Those are the règles de typographie they use. I'm still not sure why "Du" should be capitalized though. :-) Coldcreation (talk) 04:44, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
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Dear Coldcreation, for the WIKIPEDIA article on Abstract Expressionism to present a list of 100 artists as being: “Significant artists whose mature work defined American Abstract Expressionism” seems to be grossly overstated and very subjective, without presenting anything to validate the statement. Note that Albert Alcalay, Charles Alston, Alice Baber, William Baziotes, Norman Bluhm, Louise Bourgeois, Ernest Briggs, James Brooks, Fritz Bultman, Jack Bush, and Alexander Calder and many more on the list cannot be considered as Major Abstract Expressionist Artists whose mature work defined American Abstract Expressionism. Calder belonged to the “Kinetic Art Movement” and the others played no significant role and were minor contributors to the Abstract Expressionist Movement. Because only a small number of the 100 artists on the list actually defined AAE, I requested (on the Talk Page of the Article) that the introduction to the “List of abstract expressionists Major Artists” be changed to read: "Significant artists some of whose major work helped to define American Abstract Expressionism.” Please consider entering this discussion as I believe this needs to be corrected. (I do thank you, for "correcting" me, and now I believe something else need to be corrected.) Sirswindon (talk) 22:49, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
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He was involved with specifically the image before. I just put that into the article. Hafspajen (talk) 14:21, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
