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| HughD, would love to discuss with you on the wording. I don't think the phrase "Chicago-Style politics" was meant to only describe Obama. While it has been largely used in this regard, I believe that it is a conservative critique of several Democrats and Democratic organizations. Thoughts? ] (]) 20:36, 28 April 2015 (UTC) | |||
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POV Check - entire article
Disclaimer: I have a B.A. in Political Science and another in Interdisciplinary Studies: Communications, Legal Institutions, Economics & Government (CLEG) from American University.
The article in its entirety raises neutrality and content questions for me. Allow me to explain: Opening line, "...characteristics associated to the less commendable aspects..." I do not immediately recall there being other Misplaced Pages articles that discuss this
Second paragraph, "...the so called Chicago Machine, with all its venal implications..." sounds like a subjective attack on the system. There is no argument from me that there is something afoot with the way politics in done in Chicago, but this paragraph does not tell me much.
Third paragraph: is there a connection between former Governors Ryan and Blagojevich and the style of politics in Chicago?
In general: U.S. President Barack Obama has been accused of playing 'Chicago Style Politics' in the 1st half of his term. There is no mention of it, or even discussion of said fact.
The opening line accuses the subject matter of having characteristics of, "... corruption, patronage, nepotism, authoritarianism..." To repeat what I said earlier, this could be a true statement, but there is no evidence supplied to support the statement.
How would I fix this? -Not exactly sure where to begin. If the first Mayor Daley initiated this style of politics, some examples would be nice. How was he authoritarian? Any specific examples? The Buddy Cianci article comes to mind about where to start.
-If over 1000 people have been convicted of corrupt practices since the 1970s, one would think this article could become quite long.
-I am willing to contribute, but I want to make certain that I am not off-base here about the POV check. SinkingFeeling (talk) 19:08, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
Obama
HughD, would love to discuss with you on the wording. I don't think the phrase "Chicago-Style politics" was meant to only describe Obama. While it has been largely used in this regard, I believe that it is a conservative critique of several Democrats and Democratic organizations. Thoughts? DaltonCastle (talk) 20:36, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
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