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Welcome and thank you for your contributions to templates and template discussions. Alakzi (talk) 22:30, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

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BU Rob13, you are invited to the Teahouse!

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Bryan Burnham has been nominated for Did You Know

Hello, BU Rob13. Bryan Burnham, an article you either created or significantly contributed to, has been nominated  to appear on Misplaced Pages's Main Page as part of Did you know. You can see the hook and the discussion here. You are welcome to participate! Thank you. APersonBot (talk!) 14:59, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated

Thanks for reviewing Our Culture, BU Rob13.

Unfortunately Kudpung has just gone over this page again and unreviewed it. Their note is:

Please review again to ensure that this article fully complies with notability criteria.

To reply, leave a comment on Kudpung's talk page.

@Kudpung: So as not to bite the newcomer, I've held off on placing clean-up tags to give the author a few hours to expand the article if he plans to. I'm currently watching it and will place any clean-up tags that are still needed in the morning, as well as message the user to discuss them. ~ Rob 09:25, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

Looney Tunes Presents (VHS Series)

I'm going to remake that article because I need to make sure that there are lots of Looney Tunes-related home video articles. Like on VHS and Laserdisc, not just DVD and Blu-ray.

And if you can't understand that, then you'll have to delete all of the Looney Tunes VHS/Laserdisc articles that I have made.--LooneyTunerIan (talk) 15:15, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

First, I did not delete Looney Tunes Presents (VHS Series). The deleting administrator was Jimfbleak. Second, your article was removed due to a copyright violation. If you wish to request more information, I'd recommend contacting the deleting administrator. I welcome you to recreate the article, so long as you address the issues that led to the article's removal. Please keep in mind that Misplaced Pages is required to comply with copyright law, and administrators cannot allow copyright information that is not available under fair-use to remain on the project. And lastly, when reaching out to other users, please try not to be combative. You're likely to have much more informative and productive interactions with other editors if you assume good faith and work together to improve the project. In this case, a simple "Could you explain why you nominated my article for deletion?" would have sufficed. ~ Rob 19:53, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

Fauna capitalization

Re, . Both forms used to be OK, but the guidelines were changed a while back ago to only allow lower case, please see Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style/Capital letters#Animals.2C plants.2C and other organisms. All the best, 83.226.255.86 (talk) 00:56, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Ah, I did indeed miss that change. Thanks for letting me know. ~ Rob 00:57, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Re: Speedy Deletion of Manveer

Re your message: Yes, it was borderline, though I took into consideration their other article creation which I deleted as an attack page and their user name. Within that context and having deleted similar articles, I read the content to be about the editor themselves. Since you asked about it, I Googled the name and it Manveer appears to mean "brave minded", not "boy who very smarts". -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 01:39, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

@Gogo Dodo: Alright, fair enough. Either way it certainly didn't belong in the project. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't misinterpreting A7. Thanks for your response! ~ Rob 01:40, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

No problem. Always happy to explain something I did. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 01:52, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

My Looney Tunes Articles

I'm going to put those articles back! And if Jimfbleak doesn't like it, then let him try to block me! Copyright or not, they deserve to be articles! --LooneyTunerIan (talk) 01:51, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

@LooneyTunerIan: If Misplaced Pages does not address copyright violations, it risks legal action. As I said before, I encourage you to recreate the articles without copyright infringing content, but if you simply recreate the same articles with copyright violations, you're just going to eventually be blocked. You don't want that, and I don't want that. I don't doubt that you are acting in good faith and attempting to improve the wiki, but please review the policies regarding copyright. ~ Rob 01:55, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

@BU Rob13:

You and Jimfbleak are just to have to give me a last warning stamp or something on my talkpage. Because if he keeps this up, there's going to be trouble. --LooneyTunerIan (talk) 02:08, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

User:Stephanie Latt

The user who reverted your vote on the SayadawGyi XFD page, User:Stephanie Latt, has only three edits to her name, and all three are on that page. Do you know what the procedure is for such blatant puppetry? Ogress _smash! 04:57, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

• @Ogress:: Thanks for looking into that. I had checked the edit history and saw it was an IP, but did not see the later edit by Stephanie Latt that added a signature. This does indeed look like puppetry. If you're interested in seeing what the investigation concludes, it's at Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet_investigations/122.248.102.113. ~ Rob 05:28, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

• Hey, it looks like that investigation isn't properly formatted. There are no diffs or information at that page linking the IP to User:Stephanie Latt. Ogress _smash! 20:56, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

@Ogress:: It's been archived already to Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/122.248.102.113/Archive. Not sure why the archive link isn't on that page. ~ Rob 21:02, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

So what happens now with Latt, whose only contributions are to vote on a keep? Ogress _smash! 01:32, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Nothing. I'm keeping an eye on the account, but unless there's strong behavioral evidence that links him to a sockmaster, there's nothing that can be done. Keep in mind that there's no rule against doing nothing other than voting in one deletion discussion (or even in many deletion discussions). Unless there's evidence of a link to other people taking part in the discussion, no rules have been broken (at least that we have sufficient evidence for). ~ Rob 02:04, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Rollbacker

I have granted the "rollbacker" permission to your account. After a review of some of your contributions, I believe you can be trusted to use rollback for its intended usage of reverting vandalism, and that you will not abuse it by reverting good-faith edits or to revert-war. For information on rollback, see Misplaced Pages:New admin school/Rollback and Misplaced Pages:Rollback feature. If you do not want rollback, contact me and I will remove it. Good luck and thanks. – Gilliam (talk) 06:49, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks! I appreciate the trust and your help with the mass attack. ~ Rob 07:04, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Gilliam, what eased your mind about giving the WP:Rollback tool to an account as new as the BU Rob13 account? Sure, BU Rob13 does not edit like a WP:Newbie in the least, but I don't think you gave him the tool because you think he's not a WP:Newbie. Flyer22 (talk) 06:13, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Not sure I understand the question, but BU Rob 13 is doing great for a newbie. As long as he doesn't revert good-faith edits & keeps out of edit wars he will have no problems with rollback.– Gilliam (talk) 06:18, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

@Flyer22 and Gilliam: While I would mourn the loss of Huggle, I'm happy to give up the rollback user right if there are significant concerns I am too new for it currently. In the long-run, there can't be any harm in continuing to edit as I am currently and requesting it back later, although it would lower my efficiency somewhat. This is not a request for it to be removed, just a note that I would completely understand if it were to be. ~ Rob 06:30, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Gilliam, I wanted to know what made you trust such a new account with this tool. You view BU Rob13 as a WP:Newbie, but I don't; just a brief look at his contributions from beginning to now is why that's the case for me. As is clear from the current state of my talk page, I generally don't trust editors who claim to be new but don't edit like a WP:Newbie at all; in my experience, even keeping WP:Assume good faith in mind, they more often than not turn out not to be WP:Newbies. But, yes, with the way that BU Rob13 edits with regard to problematic editors, it's understandable that you gave him WP:Rollback. Flyer22 (talk) 06:42, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Can you do an rfc on Religious views on masturbation?

Since it is difficult for me by phone, would you be able to drop an appropriate request for comment in the rfc boards? I really think we need more active editors eyes on this. Regards, 172.56.35.205 (talk) 15:52, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Normally I'd be happy to, but I still don't fully understand the entire conflict, so I can't really write up an accurate RfC post. I stepped in more to help mediate the conflict, and I'm not an expert in the subject area. I'd recommend either asking the other editor to post an RfC or hopping on a computer quickly to do so. ~ Rob 19:10, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

The question would be something like "How much due weight is appropriate for promoting a view that mention of seminal emissions in Leviticus includes intercourse and wer dreams only, while remaining silent specifically on masturbation." Please help me out, setting all the links up is really hard on iphone. Thanks 172.56.35.205 (talk) 20:28, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

IP, I think you should bite the bullet, put down the phone, and grab a keyboard--if this is so important to you. Drmies (talk) 20:48, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

This is more-or-less my thoughts on the matter as well. I don't mean to discourage editing in any way, but it's difficult to tackle significant issues on a phone. I'm no authority on the matter, so I wouldn't feel comfortable posting an RfC regarding something I know nothing about. If you wish someone to post the RfC for you, I'd seek someone who has a similar point-of-view as you and is knowledgeable on the topic. This is also a healthy check; if you have difficulty finding anyone who shares your point-of-view, it's possible you're not correct (and likely an RfC would conclude that). ~ Rob 20:58, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Robot and Monster

Can you take a bit more care. The additions to the article was not all in Afrikaans, you could have used your rollback right to restore to a clean version (as has now been done) and it's not good templating the article creator if a) it wasn't them who introduced the non-English content and b) as here, have been blocked since 2013. Fighting vandalism is a worthy thing to do but it's not a race so checking if what you are doing is the best way of dealing with something and are you targeting the right person. Nthep (talk) 19:45, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

@Nthep: Tagging the article creator was my mistake; the box remained checked from earlier on TW, whereas I thought I had to check it each time. My bad, and I'll be more careful of that in the future. As for marking it as Afrikaans, I was including the language that Google Translate popped up. Is it better to go with no language than what Google provides? I assumed the categorization helped, even if some of the text is in another language, but if it does not I'll leave it uncategorized in the future. As for using rollback to remove foreign text, it's possible that the foreign text adds something to the page, in which case translation would be desired. When I looked over it, it appeared there was some text that was new information to the page and could potentially use translation. I did not consider it a good candidate for rollback because it did not appear to be clear vandalism to me, or even an edit made in bad faith. ~ Rob 19:54, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

When it overwrites most of the existing content with text in Greek or Afrikaans then whether that is content that potentially beneficial or not, then it looks to me like fairly uncontroversial vandalism and I'd revert first and ask questions afterwards. Especially when other edits by the same editor have already been reverted by someone else. Even if I thought it was good faith editing, the mix on languages etc would have been a case for using the rollback (AGF) option and leaving a note for the editor why. Nthep (talk) 20:11, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Fair enough, thanks for the clarification. ~ Rob 20:41, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Editing for player team NBA Draft 2015

Do you only add the player to the team and put the colors of that team for that player, only if they signed a contract, or if they've been selected? — Preceding unsigned comment added by UVABallers (talk • contribs) 02:16, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for asking! Only if they actually sign. There have been several historical situations where, for whatever reason, a player doesn't actually sign with the team or play the sport at all. Until they've signed, they're not a player. Notably, they're also not a free agent. The team field should be left blank for now. ~ Rob 02:18, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

I'm trying to undo vandalism, not make unconstructive edits. Can you lock that page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by UVABallers (talk • contribs) 02:23, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

I can see the edits you're making, and from what I can see, they are not constructive. You've removed several draft picks and replaced with vandalized text. If you are trying to revert vandalism, please be much more careful, as you're currently just adding to the mass attack. It's better to work slow and deliberately than to rush and actually place vandalism back on the page. I cannot lock the page, but a request is currently in for admins to semi-protect it to at least address the non-autoconfirmed vandals. ~ Rob 02:26, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

I understand, I'm sorry for an problems. I was trying to undo the vandalism, there are a lot of players that have their team field filled in, should that be blank?

For all players in this draft, yes. No players have actually been signed yet. ~ Rob 02:31, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

Makes sense, Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by UVABallers (talk • contribs) 02:36, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

Message

You took down an edit I made on St James Cavalier in Malta because I did not leave an edit summary -- I apologise and will do so next time! But, it should still be deleted: EGS does not have a confirmed campus there -- please see this article: http://www.maltatoday.com.mt/printversion/54293/#.VY2RGefkd1Q "Although EGS has no immediate plans to open a dedicated campus in Malta or Gozo, Jennifer Davy – assistant to EGS president Hubertus von Amelunxen – confirmed that a search was being conducted nonetheless.

“For 2016, our intention is to run the residency programme in the historic context of Valletta, using a suitably equipped educational and cultural events venue with a historic connection,” Davy said."

Wikijhd (talk) 17:57, 26 June 2015 (UTC)wikijhd

if that is the case you are now trying to change history for the sake of hiding the truth.

all of you 20 somethings need to quit trying to change history that you have no clue about and learn something from your elders. I know its hard to come down from your high cloud of thinking that you know everything. But you need to realize that much existed before you were birthed and though you may not believe it all really did happen. So please leave my posts along and don't tell me what is considered constructive or what is not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Unixphreak (talk • contribs)

@Unixphreak: The platform of origin is intended to be the platform of first release, as noted in the documentation. The text of the full article clearly indicates that the planned platform was initially Mac OS. No-one is censoring anything. You're just misunderstanding the use of that field. I strongly encourage you to take my advice and not continue to edit in a disruptive manner. If you continue to do so, you're likely to be blocked. I'd much rather you stick around and edit productively then get blocked. ~ Rob 19:46, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

Definitions

Tina Turner is in fact a glamazon though, please see these references I have researched. 45.49.140.72 (talk) 06:21, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

1. http://glamazon.urbanup.com/50887
2. https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/af/a8/0a/afa80aaa654152ad2ec97aaf9aba55fc.jpg

As per WP:SLANG, articles should not include slang. ~ Rob 06:24, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

WP:SLANG is an essay, and articles can include slang if WP:Notable and/or relevant enough. Flyer22 (talk) 06:16, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

@Flyer22: While WP:SLANG is an essay, it represents an uncontroversial community consensus which should not be disregarded lightly. There is also no evidence that this term is notable, or has been applied to this particular person in any reliable source. ~ Rob 15:48, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Like I stated, "WP:SLANG is an essay, and articles can include slang if WP:Notable and/or relevant enough." And I stand by that. Should I list examples? I was not defending the IP's point; I was criticizing yours. There are times when the slang terms are WP:Alternative titles that should be noted in the lead and/or lower in the article (in an Etymology or Definitions section) because they are just as well known, or more well known, than the technical term. One example is the Anilingus article, which has had the WP:SLANG essay debated at its talk page because of a persistent IP hopping WP:Troll. And since, in the #Rollbacker section above, I've made clear my suspicion of you, there is no need WP:Ping me to your talk page. I put what I consider suspicious accounts on my WP:Watchlist. Flyer22 (talk) 20:58, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Fair enough, I misunderstood what you were arguing. As the notability of the slang was unlikely to be a subject of contention, I didn't feel the need to expand on my point beyond what was necessary to explain why I reverted the edit. While you're welcome to comment on my talk page, please do not comment about me being "suspicious". If you believe I'm using multiple accounts, as you appear to be alleging, you're welcome to make a report at WP:SPI. I don't care to have unsubstantiated allegations about my activity on my talk page, though. ~ Rob 21:09, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

I stated my belief that you are not a WP:Newbie, just like I did with an editor in a different recent case. Are you claiming that you are a WP:Newbie, despite not editing like one? Are you claiming that you edit like a veteran who makes occasional mistakes because you watched the Misplaced Pages process for so long? A WP:Newbie would not make this edit as their first edit (and they typically wouldn't sign their username for their first edit); they also wouldn't state, "While WP:SLANG is an essay, it represents an uncontroversial community consensus which should not be disregarded lightly." How do you know what is community consensus on Misplaced Pages? As for filing a WP:SPI, it takes time sometimes. Sometimes I have to take days or weeks to gather the evidence and note the similarities between accounts, and/or the way the new account is trying to throw me off his or her scent by changing their editing pattern, and so on. In other cases, it can take a year, with the WP:CheckUser data being stale, but the behavioral data being strong. Flyer22 (talk) 21:55, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

I am claiming I'm not a newbie (although I probably had an account with less than 20 edits years ago; I vaguely remember signing up, but couldn't find the account through recovery before setting this one up). I'm not claiming that I've observed the processes for a long time; I have not. I'm a college student who's on their first actual break in three years and has too much time on their hands. I'm not much a fan of sitting idle, so I've thrown myself into doing something productive here, which has included reading up on policy. The header on WP:WBA notes that it is a recognized supplement to WP:MoS. I originally found WP:WBA in Template:Writing guides located at the bottom of the Manual of Style. The article would not be linked from the Manual of Style unless it represented a consensus, presumably. It's also kind of common sense that slang words unlikely to be known to most people would not be used in articles, if only for the sake of being readable to the general public. Your stance so far has been that any editor who displays a competent understanding of policy in a short period of time, even with many mistakes, is clearly a sock. You're right that applying this criteria probably filters out most socks, but it will also filter out editors who may prove to be extremely helpful to the project. Further, accusing someone of being a sock on their talk page with no evidence would likely discourage most editors from continuing to contribute. See WP:BRANDNEW and WP:NOTCLUELESS.

My first edit was a result of seeing the template deletion notice on Amy Poehler if I recall correctly, and being mildly annoyed that what I saw as useful information would be removed (although in hindsight, now knowing more about policy, I was wrong and that template probably deserved deletion). From there, I checked out other template deletion discussions and helped to merge a template that was undergoing deletion, since I was unable to get to sleep and found the mind-numbing task to be somewhat fun. I eventually reflected on how helpful Misplaced Pages had been in the past and decided to help out further with vandalism issues and patrolling new pages. I did not know about Special:NewPagesFeed at first, so I was doing this in the recent changes feed. I eventually moved entirely over to new pages, and tagged quite a few articles for speedy deletion. I didn't have a great grasp of that policy and made several mistakes which I was warned for. I overreacted to the warning, as you can see in my talk page history, and decided not to edit anymore. I decided after a few days that it was silly to overreact and stop doing something I enjoyed because someone correctly challenged something I did, so I returned. I shifted away from new pages patrol and towards vandalism reversion, primarily of IP editors as this was the easiest vandalism to detect without access to more advanced tools. Somewhere along the way I got interested in helping with Canadian football bios after finding an edit to one in the recent changes queue (not sure on timing of that). I've remained doing vandalism revision and creating Canadian football bios since then, although I've also dabbled with AfD and DYK.

I've now told you everything I can remember about my editing activity and the sequence of events that led to it, so you can't possibly need more information regarding my activity. If you're interested, feel free to look through my contributions, as my memory is not always correct on small details going back multiple weeks. As I said before, you can take this to WP:SPI at some point if you believe I'm a sock. Do not make additional comments on my user page (including in reply to this) about this topic; follow the appropriate process. ~ Rob 22:46, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

I did not accuse you of being a WP:Sock. Stating that I don't believe that you are a WP:Newbie and inquiring about your newness is different than outright calling you a WP:Sock. On my user page, I address how I go about WP:Sock matters, WP:Clean start matters, and similar. I know what I'm doing in that regard. Flyer22 (talk) 22:52, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Warning

. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:42, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Re: your message. The user had received a warning regarding his behavior already that explained why his behavior is contrary to consensus and asked him politely to stop. He had also received numerous warnings in the past about unsourced edits and been blocked for ignoring them. After ignoring four warnings (including one directly related to this issue), it becomes evident that an editor is not acting in good faith. This became even more evident when, after he stated he would stop, he continued anyway. Since then, his behavior has altered somewhat, and I adjusted my tone accordingly, as in the "Changing Houses" section. ~ Rob 15:59, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

I agree with Rob13. Many editors do not consider "good faith a suicide pact". Sundayclose (talk) 16:16, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

@Sundayclose: "Suicide pact"? Please get a sense of perspective. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:30, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Since you appear to have misunderstood my message; I'll repeat it here: "It is contrary to Misplaced Pages policy to describe, as you have done here, good-faith edits as vandalism. Please do not do so again, and please familiarise yourself with the relevant policy, lest you be blocked for breaching it." Please be sure to do as I ask, before replying again, if at all. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:30, 28 June 2015 (UTC)