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::: should allow you to display their rights history. Sorry the one I gave above is admin-only. ] (]) 14:04, 20 July 2015 (UTC) | ::: should allow you to display their rights history. Sorry the one I gave above is admin-only. ] (]) 14:04, 20 July 2015 (UTC) | ||
== Uninvolved Admin == | |||
Hi Ed, | |||
I would request you to consider giving your opinion, as an uninvolved Admin, on an ARCA discussion featuring me: | |||
https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification_and_Amendment#Amendment_request:_Imposition_of_an_Arbitration_Enforced_Sanction_against_me_by_Bishonen ] (]) 00:32, 21 July 2015 (UTC) |
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More edit warring??
You recently closed semiprotected some articles with your closure at WP:AN3 referring to my issue with a series of anon IPs - see my talk page. Today, I find from my watchlist that another IP - 114.178.174.209 - has worked their way up the list of articles I have created and has marked dozens as non-notable and/or needing improved refs. They have made no other edits, other than to pages I created, totalling 75 edits in 49 minutes. This is a clear case of stalking. Now, in some cases, these were justifiable (the majority were translated as is from French Misplaced Pages) but that is not the case with all and I made edits to either revert or to highlight refs where possible. Now I find that yet another IP, 153.206.14.192 with 17 edits in, has begun to revert my edits. I'm worried. Can anything be done? Emeraude (talk) 22:17, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
Additionally, I've just noticed 153.206.30.151 is also in, with 15 edits in 16 minutes. None of these IPS has made anay other edits ever. Emeraude (talk) 22:22, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
- If they are only adding proper tags and not warring then the behavior is fishy but not disruptive. What is unusual is that these IPs only deal with your articles, no one else's. Consider attaching a template to the article's talk page to show it's been translated from the French Misplaced Pages. For example, {{Translated | fr | À mort l'arbitre}} . That will make people aware that the article is at least considered notable in its original home. EdJohnston (talk) 23:00, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
- I think they all have that note anyway, or most do. It's clear that this is a personal attack. I've no objection to tagging articles as needing refs etc, but when I remove them with a reason and they are immediately reverted it becomes disruptive. Consider, for example, Edward Hain, which was tagged for refimprpove. The article is fully referenced, and I removed the tag with that reason. I was reverted. The article is STILL fully referenced! (though I'm about to remove the tag again) Emeraude (talk) 09:52, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
- I'm sorry to bother you again, but this is still continuing and is clearly a sustained attempt to pick on me. Please look at the following articles and their edit histories - in each case, unnecessary tags (refimprove, notability) have been added. In each case, I have reverted and explained why the tags are unnecessary, but to no avail as a series of IPs - presumably all the same person - continue to simply revert with no explanation given and taking no notice of my comments. The articles are:
- Edward Hain - 100% referenced
- Johnny Howard - rugby player at top level in bothe England and France
- Fort de Valros - French historic mounment, article fully sourced and source stated
- Alexandra Leclère - French film director, notable as festival prize winner
Perhaps it is time to block these IPs?
Many thanks. Emeraude (talk) 12:59, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
- The IPs who are reverting you seem to come from the Japan Tokyo Open Computer Network. Few of them appear to lie in a reasonable subrange so I haven't noticed any rangeblocks that would be reasonable. If you can provide a short list of articles that deserve semiprotection I could consider that. EdJohnston (talk) 14:28, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
- Short list? You're joking. Since posting the above they have gone through the rest of my list of created pages - 301 edits in total and 296 of them in 1h32m! That's industrial scale editing by 153.228.200.182! Again, some may be justified, but the four I mentioned above are not and have been reverted again. Also, tags have been placed on Groupe de Barbezieux which was deleted by an admin, reinstated at my request and objections sorted by me, so perhaps those articles could be protected. However, it's a clear personal attack and I don't have time to go through every single edit to sort them out, especially as anything I do will be reverted regardless. How many rules are broken here?- sockpuppetry, trolling, vandalism and general disruption! I've never heard of the Japan Tokyo Open Computer Network, but I presume they have reasonable conditions of use and would not be happy to receive news that their members/users were behaving in this way. I would also guess that their logs would show who was using which IP when and could take action. I know this has happened in the past with university IT centres. Emeraude (talk) 09:40, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
- If you want admins to take action against these IPs as a group, you'll need to collect some data. This may be tedious, but it's the only way a large number of blocks or semiprotections could be justified. Sending abuse reports to an ISP is unlikely to get any result. Especially for this IP who is mostly adding {{refimprove}} templates, so is not committing obvious vandalism. And to add to the problem, the Xtools rangecontribs tool is not working again. But the CIDR tool is working, and so far I've checked out 153.206.* and 153.228.*. In those two ranges, the only IPs that seem to be him are: 153.206.30.151 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) 153.206.14.192 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) and 153.228.200.182 (talk · contribs · WHOIS). There is some chance this is the same person who wrote on your talk page from two 153.* addresses in User talk:Emeraude#Template:Notability. EdJohnston (talk) 15:55, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
- Short list? You're joking. Since posting the above they have gone through the rest of my list of created pages - 301 edits in total and 296 of them in 1h32m! That's industrial scale editing by 153.228.200.182! Again, some may be justified, but the four I mentioned above are not and have been reverted again. Also, tags have been placed on Groupe de Barbezieux which was deleted by an admin, reinstated at my request and objections sorted by me, so perhaps those articles could be protected. However, it's a clear personal attack and I don't have time to go through every single edit to sort them out, especially as anything I do will be reverted regardless. How many rules are broken here?- sockpuppetry, trolling, vandalism and general disruption! I've never heard of the Japan Tokyo Open Computer Network, but I presume they have reasonable conditions of use and would not be happy to receive news that their members/users were behaving in this way. I would also guess that their logs would show who was using which IP when and could take action. I know this has happened in the past with university IT centres. Emeraude (talk) 09:40, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
- So, basically he gets away with it. Emeraude (talk) 08:59, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
- And continues: 153.229.225.169, 153.206.97.217, 153.203.111.206, 153.229.189.75.
- Can you protect the following from IPs: Groupe de Barbezieux, Alexandra Leclère, Johnny Howard?
- Emeraude (talk) 11:26, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
- This must be a continuation of Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/3RRArchive286#User:114.167.178.175 reported by User:Emeraude (Result: Articles semiprotected), a 3RR report from June 2015. All these IPs come from the Open Computer Network in Japan. A deliberate attempt to undo the work of one editor, User:Emeraude, would be considered harassment. The IPs give their attention to articles where Emeraude has worked. The IP edits might be revenge for Emeraude tagging some music articles for notability. I've semiprotected Groupe de Barbezieux, Alexandra Leclère and Johnny Howard. EdJohnston (talk) 15:01, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
Niki Romijn voice acting
Hi, and now I have solid proof that Niki voice it Winx and Totally Spies. Seee the link: It's a news paper of Amersfoort, and here mention it her work for winx and totally spies. Can I make now please the articel? Please translate it.http://eempodium.nl/amersfoort/ik-heb-iets-met-vrouwen-die-hun-eigen-ding-doen/ --Maxie1hoi (talk) 08:27, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
- That link gets "Since 1993 I earn my money as a voice actress for animation, commercials, do some directing, coaching..." This doesn't specify any particular role. But I suppose it is a reference. If you check out http://www.nikiromijn.nl/media.html and search for any linked newspaper articles that might still be online you might find something more definite. She has a lengthy page on the Dutch Misplaced Pages but I don't see any confirmation for any of the roles included in her list. EdJohnston (talk) 13:53, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
- But can I start it the articel? And you have not good read it! This people of Amersfoort say it: And with main role's in serie's like Totally spies and winx. And her work for voice over and singer mention it.--Maxie1hoi (talk) 18:44, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
- Consider making a new draft at User:Maxie1hoi/Niki Romijn. But I recommend you only include roles that can be confirmed from published sources. I think the Amersfoort newspaper article is OK, but it doesn't give many details. Don't exceed what the sources say. She has a CD called BIRD but it appears to be self-published. If there was an article about her in Het Parool maybe you can find the text somewhere? EdJohnston (talk) 19:06, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
- Using a site search, the only mention of her in Het Parool appears to be this link to a review of Totally Spies! The Movie. EdJohnston (talk) 19:12, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
- Consider making a new draft at User:Maxie1hoi/Niki Romijn. But I recommend you only include roles that can be confirmed from published sources. I think the Amersfoort newspaper article is OK, but it doesn't give many details. Don't exceed what the sources say. She has a CD called BIRD but it appears to be self-published. If there was an article about her in Het Parool maybe you can find the text somewhere? EdJohnston (talk) 19:06, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
- But can I start it the articel? And you have not good read it! This people of Amersfoort say it: And with main role's in serie's like Totally spies and winx. And her work for voice over and singer mention it.--Maxie1hoi (talk) 18:44, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
Hi, now i have make it that page. Control my articel and say it of is this solid proof for you.--Maxie1hoi (talk) 17:23, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
- Your draft at User:Maxie1hoi/Niki Romijn still has no references, so it can't become an article yet. The English is very awkward. "She worked as a dubbing translator to include Free Willy" is really baffling. What does it mean? EdJohnston (talk) 17:38, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
What do you mean with English wiki is difficult? I will be let seen source but how I can make citation refrences link template?--Maxie1hoi (talk) 10:56, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- In my opinion, it will be too difficult for you to develop the article in English, since your ability in English is too limited. You've already participated at http://nl.wikipedia.org/Niki_Romijn. Why not keep working on the Dutch article? You can add the references there. There must be people who can give you help in the Dutch language on the issue of formatting references. After the Dutch article is sufficiently developed, the time may come to consider creating an article here. At present your English draft is both unreferenced and incomprehensible. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 11:37, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- Maybe you can ask it to her. This is her email: Nikiromijn@hetnet.nl it is mention it on her site. Ask it and then you can see I have right it!--Maxie1hoi (talk) 19:28, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
good faith edits undone multiple times
Hey Ed, I noticed the article on Intelligent design is highly biased, and does not meet the wiki standards
there are numerous statments such as that ID is "psuedoscience" which not verifiable, and others which violate the wiki norms to "do not give undue weight"
I am new to editing, but the edits preserved all the original citations, and merely moved "pseudoscience" to a contentious section in the first paragraph, near where it originally was, except clarifying the known fact that not all scientists (most of them) do not consider ID "pseudoscience". To have "pseudoscience" in the very first sentence, and throughout, makes this article highly biased.
I am not hiding behind any IP--I just do not have an account set up yet, and my edits are important enough to be posted right now.
If you feel people must have "accounts" to post valid contributions, then could you go ahead and remedy the article yourself, particularly to remind readers that ID is a "view", not a "pseudoscience"?
I trust you would see this is a reasonable request that would remedy some of the clear bias throughout that key and important article
Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.45.106.84 (talk) 23:15, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
- Welcome to Misplaced Pages, where opinions sometimes differ! IPs were reverting the article while making no contribution to the talk page. You do have the option of creating an account. When I'm acting as an admin on a certain article I don't edit the article or participate in content discussions. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 23:22, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
Yes, but what did you do to this article? since you said:
Changed protection level of Intelligent design: Persistent disruptive editing Edit=Allow only autoconfirmed users (expires 22:55, 6 September 2015 (UTC)) / Move=Allow only administrators / (indefinite)))"
Isn't it true that wiki still allows IP's to contribute "verifiable" insights into any article? So regardless of your proposal to dis-allow IP's, wikipedia's policy still says IP's are allowed to join in the discussion, even before they created an account. So how is it that you are able to block IP's (if that's what you are doing?)
Also, how is it that "IPs (mine) were reverting the article while making no contribution to the talk page."? Isn't it true that wiki does not require any "talk" step before making edits? I think the idea is that wikipedia assumes most edits to be in good faith, and therefore would not wish to hamper the valid (and verifiable) insights of good IP contributors--especially since that would delay things. My edits were all fair, and did not erase any of the original citations...it only clarified the (verifiable) fact that there are contentions between both sides of the article. So can you show me where Misplaced Pages itself mandates all contributions to go through a "talk" page first? It seems that would make wikipedia be "controlled" by an arbitrary group of people seeking to impose their views via talk pages, while suppressing any "minority" opinion, and this goes directly against the spirit of wikipedia, no? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.45.106.84 (talk) 23:41, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
BTW: How long does it take to create an account? Thanks!
- About five minutes if you hit all the buttons in the right order. But a newly-created account still can't edit a semiprotected article until it has made 10 edits and been on Misplaced Pages for four days. EdJohnston (talk) 23:43, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
- Cool thanks. But isn't it true that wiki does not require any "talk" step before making edits? Pls clarify, so we can be of more value as a community working together! :-) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.45.106.84 (talk) 23:50, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
- You might consider discussing the changes you wish made at Talk:Intelligent design. You can do that now, rather than constantly reverting. Cheers! --‖ Ebyabe - Welfare State ‖ 23:59, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
- OK, will do. Just want to keep things fair for everyone. However, will someone please answer: wiki does not require any "talk" step before making edits? Yes? No?
- You can find answers at the Teahouse to your questions. I have put a link on your current IP page. The fourth pillar gives guidelines about discussions. Also, please sign your comments as described on your talk page already. Ogress smash! 00:18, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
- OK, will do. Just want to keep things fair for everyone. However, will someone please answer: wiki does not require any "talk" step before making edits? Yes? No?
Hi EdJohnson, I reviewed this policy here: https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection I can see that this page keeps reverting against people who have IP's only and no account. Hence, I will set up an account. However, you also must assume good faith in editors. Mine was good faith, as it did not delete anything, and merely kept all citations near their place, with minor moving around. Yet, your "page protection" seems to put an unreasonable ban upon my IP until at least September. Again, my edits were in good faith, and will not be added again until we've discussed more in Talk, and I've gotten an account. As such, your block seems heavy-handed. Can you please remove the block? In return, I will go through the protocols you suggested via setting an account and discussing on Talk. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.45.106.84 (talk) 00:31, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
- The semiprotection was justified. Whether you have an account or not, you still need to get agreement with others. If not, your changes will most likely be reverted. Intelligent design is a highly controversial article. EdJohnston (talk) 01:38, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
User:Chotaripple
- Chotaripple (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
After being blocked for edit warring, Chotaripple then changes referenced information on the Battle of Chamkaur, without any discussion. The reference even has a quote! Would you like to deal with this issue? --Kansas Bear (talk) 19:35, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
- Will leave a note. EdJohnston (talk) 21:18, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
- I have started a discussion on the article talk page. This situation is getting to the point of nonsense. --Kansas Bear (talk) 21:37, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
Austin 30 hp
As Luke has taken it upon himself to ban me from his talk page, can I suggest that we relocate this discussion to Talk:Austin 30 hp, where it really belongs. Andy Dingley (talk) 16:04, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
- Feel free to open a new thread at Talk:Austin 30 hp if you wish. It is best if you confine any new discussion to content matters and not make any observations about other editors' behavior. (If some people can't get along with each other, maybe they should propose a voluntary interaction ban). If there is any consensus regarding these infobox issues and engine issues, somebody should explain it clearly. The WT:CARS discussion seems vague, at least to an outsider who has spent only two minutes looking into it. EdJohnston (talk) 16:12, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
User:Luppy-GT
- Luppy-GT (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Sadly no change in this editor's behavior. Even still changing the spelling of quotations. Doug Weller (talk) 11:38, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
- Can you link to an example of 'changing the spelling of quotations'? EdJohnston (talk) 15:58, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
- In an odd drive-by, I can! Ogress smash! 03:47, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks! I'll wait and see if there is any response from Luppy-GT before deciding how to proceed. EdJohnston (talk) 03:59, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- Good luck, AFAIK they've never written a single word that wasn't in an article page. Ogress smash! 04:04, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks! I'll wait and see if there is any response from Luppy-GT before deciding how to proceed. EdJohnston (talk) 03:59, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- In an odd drive-by, I can! Ogress smash! 03:47, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
Talkback
Hello, EdJohnston. You have new messages at Malik Shabazz's talk page.Message added 03:38, 14 July 2015 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
Antiochian Greek Christians
- Antiochian Greek Christians (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- B.Andersohn (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Prior discussion at User talk:Attar-Aram syria#Antiochians, Abusive Edits, and 'Costumes'!
Hello, there seems to be another problem in that page. Another user has came and this time he want to delete sources and push his view without a discussion. I reverted him and asked for him to go to the talk page yet he decided to edit war. I approached him on his Talk page and again no reaction. Just reverting. How to deal with those people ?. He is very aggressive and wont engage in a discussion. Even when he participated in the article talk page he was aggressive. And reacted aggressively when I approached him on his page even though I apologized to him and tried to be very nice to absorb his frustration.
- Update, in the end he came to my talk page with this insulting message --Attar-Aram syria (talk) 13:50, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- That’s (just another) gross distortion from the part of Attar-Aram. I therefore have to reply rapidly – I’m fairly busy & have to catch a flight later today
- 1) For the record, I was only trying to correct (some of) the gross approximations and blatant inaccuracies Attar-Aram has inserted (in the past 4 months) in what used to be a B+/decent Misplaced Pages article (not stellar, but decent) – turned into an incoherent, dogmatic, poorly written propaganda piece
- 2) The mildly sarcastic tone of some of my comments were/are meant essentially to open his eyes, not to “show disrespect” to a selfproclaimed censor -I’m sorry- but that’s the impression he gives. On that point I agree with Gramaic and the other/earlier contributors unjustly “reprimanded” by Attar Aram.
- 3) I sincerely believe/hope he’ll change his views one day. Until then, I wish him a good continuation … B.Andersohn (talk) 14:28, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- The current dispute seems to have two parts: (a) whether to include the statement that the Antiochian Greek Christians are genetically the same as the surrounding populations, (b) whether to allow the remark about Melkite church history, which at first sight appears to have no reference. Though in his edit summary B.Andersohn announces that it's the mainstream academic view: "Undid revision. This is not "my preferred version" (?), by the MAINSTREAM CONSENSUS of the Church of Antioch itself, the Vatican as well as secular academics in Oxford, Cambridge, Stanford... Clearly, you have no academic credentials on the subject". If this is truly a mainstream view, surely a reference can be found. EdJohnston (talk) 15:27, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- Not only this, he also deleted the part where Crusaders called Antiochians Arabs. This is a sourced historic fact. All I wanted was a discussion on the article talk page. The discussion on his talk page is worth reading as well ((since most of the insults (or ridicule) were there User_talk:B.Andersohn#Antiochian)). He said official church history. But Misplaced Pages isn't a platform for Official histories. The official history can be mentioned but not replace other views.--Attar-Aram syria (talk) 15:41, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- Talk:Antiochian Greek Christians is the right place to resolve this. Whoever has the best sources will most likely win the argument. Personal attacks (like the ones at User talk:B.Andersohn#Antiochian), won't advance the debate. EdJohnston (talk) 20:05, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
- Not only this, he also deleted the part where Crusaders called Antiochians Arabs. This is a sourced historic fact. All I wanted was a discussion on the article talk page. The discussion on his talk page is worth reading as well ((since most of the insults (or ridicule) were there User_talk:B.Andersohn#Antiochian)). He said official church history. But Misplaced Pages isn't a platform for Official histories. The official history can be mentioned but not replace other views.--Attar-Aram syria (talk) 15:41, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
- The current dispute seems to have two parts: (a) whether to include the statement that the Antiochian Greek Christians are genetically the same as the surrounding populations, (b) whether to allow the remark about Melkite church history, which at first sight appears to have no reference. Though in his edit summary B.Andersohn announces that it's the mainstream academic view: "Undid revision. This is not "my preferred version" (?), by the MAINSTREAM CONSENSUS of the Church of Antioch itself, the Vatican as well as secular academics in Oxford, Cambridge, Stanford... Clearly, you have no academic credentials on the subject". If this is truly a mainstream view, surely a reference can be found. EdJohnston (talk) 15:27, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
Battle of Prohkorovka
I really am at a loss with this article. Bold Edit, Revert, Discuss is ignored. The talk page argument goes in circles. It does not seem like it should be this hard. I would put him up for edit warring as he has violated three revert, but I had the sense you all had no interest. I am tired of the bullying. Any suggestions? Thanks. Gunbirddriver (talk)
- You're complaining that the debate is going in circles, yet you refuse to bring sources that explicitly support your claims. And to be frank with you, your chances of finding reliable sources that support your claims is almost zero. Because it's honestly an invention, or more likely you're just getting the facts badly mixed up. But then you're insisting that the sourced information should be removed and replaced with your own claim. You know what? Have it your way. I'll put you claim back with cn tags until you provide sources. BTW, neither of us has broken WP:3RR. And it's very ironic that you accuse me of bullying. EyeTruth (talk) 07:11, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
Ooops, I came here to call EdJohnston attention to the debate, but you already did, except with very skewed words. EyeTruth (talk) 07:02, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
Signature linking
What is this editor so insistent about? LoveMonkey 19:47, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, that's a valid point. Per WP:SIGLINK your signature should contain a link back to your user page, user talk or contributions. Your signature at present is only plain text and doesn't link anywhere. If you want to fix this, go to Special:Preferences, click the tab for User Profile, and then be sure the box for 'Treat the above as wiki markup' is unchecked. EdJohnston (talk) 19:59, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Gringoladomenega
You are invited to join the discussion at Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Gringoladomenega. Thanks. Vanjagenije (talk) 19:08, 16 July 2015 (UTC)Template:Z48
One-year semiprotection
- I've semiprotected Agata for one year since it would be impractical to block a lot of IPs. If you see other articles being targeted, consider reporting at WP:RFPP.
I've been trying to get long-term semi-protection on Abby Martin for some time now with no results. I'm curious why admins would favor protecting disambiguation pages over biographies. The article has been under constant attack since it was created. Just the other day, this attack was made by a SPA. Not only does that require oversighting, but we still need semi-protection of the biography. Viriditas (talk) 01:47, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
- At Abby Martin, I see there have been some revdels and there has been editing from open proxies, so I've semiprotected the article for six months. There is no special reason for protecting DAB pages over others. It happened that the spammer was targetting the DAB page at Agata. EdJohnston (talk) 02:59, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks. I greatly appreciate it. Viriditas (talk) 03:07, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
Being mocked by an established editor over comments left on a hotly debated topic's talk page
Dear EdJohnston,
Taking heed of your advice to contact you if there's any questions, I would like to ask of you to review the last changes to the talk page regarding Planned Parenthood and please review when editor "Uncle Milty" mocked me for being new. Editor "BullRangifer" has warned me several times that I am "hasty" and "will lose this battle" if I keep posting. I believe there is not a battlefield mentality here but I, a non-registered long-time user, has had deleted comments without so much as any message by editor "Uncle Milty" over what I have perceived his non-neutral POV (see his past behaviour as called out on his talk page by other users in the past - this is not the first time he deletes comments and reverts edits that go against his personal opinions)
I do not know all the intricacies that seem to be making Misplaced Pages editing very non-conducive to the uninitiated but I feel very much coerced into not speaking/writing anything more just for being new. Please serve as a neutral arbiter in this, reviews what I have posted whenever you have time, and let me know if I am the only one in the wrong in this situation.
PS
I'd like to quote Misplaced Pages's Statement of Principles regarding this issue : "Newcomers are always to be welcomed. There must be no cabal, there must be no elites, there must be no hierarchy or structure which gets in the way of this openness to newcomers." 200.42.237.185 (talk) 21:10, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) I'm a completely uninvolved administrator. I think you're in the wrong here. Read Misplaced Pages's Talk page guidelines and follow them. The talk page is intended for discussing specific suggestions for improving the article, not belly-aching that your previous comments have been removed. Follow the guidelines and you shouldn't have any problems. — MShabazz /Stalk 21:43, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
- Exactly. You have been advised not to attack other editors; that the page protection is proper because of edit warring; to follow the talk page guidelines; to be patient and not be hasty; to provide suggested improvements which could be discussed; to use the page protected template when making such a suggestion; and that the matter will end up being mentioned in the article. Just be patient.
- Instead of following that advice, you are forum shopping and making false accusations, calling good advice "mocking". That's not good. I wrote that "You WILL lose this one because you don't understand our policies.", not because you're posting. It's the manner of your posting that's the problem. It's not constructive and violates talk page guidelines.
- I still think the basic idea of including content on this matter is good, but wording must be suggested and a consensus version worked out, without it being a battlefield with you making accusations against other editors. -- BullRangifer (talk) 22:07, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
- Hello 200.42.237.185 (talk · contribs). I agree with what others have said. Misplaced Pages does not have a duty to add your opinions to articles. The best we we can do is offer you the opportunity for discussion, but even then there are limits to what will be accepted on talk pages. If you're in a big hurry to get our articles changed, that makes us wonder why. Misplaced Pages is not in a hurry. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 02:34, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you to all and your suggestions are indeed taken. One last question that feels unanswered, when an editor mocked me (which was not BullRangifer but Uncle Milty and by the tone of the post above we can see how BullRangifer took it; please see the revision history of Planned Parenthood) and deleted 3 comments of mine without any explanation, should I just assume no explanation is needed? 200.42.237.185 (talk) 04:15, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
- Hello 200.42.237.185 (talk · contribs). I agree with what others have said. Misplaced Pages does not have a duty to add your opinions to articles. The best we we can do is offer you the opportunity for discussion, but even then there are limits to what will be accepted on talk pages. If you're in a big hurry to get our articles changed, that makes us wonder why. Misplaced Pages is not in a hurry. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 02:34, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
Account creator rights
- Girlstothefront (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
This isn't a big deal, Ed, but I noticed User:Girlstothefront has account creator rights but they has just made 3 edits four months ago and didn't even have any user page until now when I created their user talk page. I know giving an inactive editor a right they are not using isn't causing any problems but it also doesn't make a lot of sense. Liz 22:06, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
- See current rights. She created three accounts as an editathon volunteer in June. Ask User:Pharos if he thinks the rights are still needed. EdJohnston (talk) 02:19, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
- I can't view Special:UserRights/Girlstothefront but I will ask Pharos what he thinks. Thanks for looking into this, Ed. Liz 10:12, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
- This link should allow you to display their rights history. Sorry the one I gave above is admin-only. EdJohnston (talk) 14:04, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
- I can't view Special:UserRights/Girlstothefront but I will ask Pharos what he thinks. Thanks for looking into this, Ed. Liz 10:12, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
Uninvolved Admin
Hi Ed, I would request you to consider giving your opinion, as an uninvolved Admin, on an ARCA discussion featuring me:
https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification_and_Amendment#Amendment_request:_Imposition_of_an_Arbitration_Enforced_Sanction_against_me_by_Bishonen Soham321 (talk) 00:32, 21 July 2015 (UTC)