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Speccy,

See ] We might have sharp disagreements about units of measurement but I don't bear you ill-will (unless you are a sockpuppet). Go back to that link and note those who attacked you and those who did not. Michael Glass (talk) 13:57, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

The recent disagreement is more about making facts verifiable than about units of measurement, although I can see that you do seem to have a serious problem accepting imperial units at face value and would prefer to derive them by converting metric units than to use references which support then directly. And I'm glad you don't bear me any ill-will, but what do you mean by "unless you are a sockpuppet"? Speccy4Eyes (talk) 16:35, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

I'll deal with your last comment first.

• Your debating style reminds me of DeFacto and his many sockpuppets. If you turn out to be a sockpuppet then of course I would try to get you banned. If you are not, then I will try my best to get on with you. When I said that I bear you no ill-will, I meant it. In fact I have learnt one or two valuable things about coding because of my interactions with you.
• I have no problem about accepting Imperial measures at face value, and if the best measure is Imperial I won't challenge it. Note this diff, which I did not challenge: However, when the citation is primarily or exclusively metric, I think it's only right to take the metric measure as primary.
• In the case of the Cotswolds I have been prepared to stretch this to quote both figures to find some common ground between us.
• While I might debate with you, others would like to see you banned. Please try to be less rigid in your negotiations and less like DeFacto. Michael Glass (talk) 13:56, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

I'd never come across the use of the word "sockpuppet" or even the two words "sock puppet" in that context before, but after just looking up alternate meanings to the cheapskate nursery toy, I think I smell a dirty trick brewing here. Whoever this "DeFacto" is, I'm guessing you have "history" with them, and you are threatening to accuse me of being them if I don't let you make the changes you demand, right?

I will not be intimidated though, because as I understand it, we don't choose units based on what's used in any particular source. If we did, we could just find a source with our own favourite units mentioned in it, and use it to demand a wiki-code change. In fact, it seems now that that is exactly what you've tried to do here. Speccy4Eyes (talk) 20:09, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi Speccy, see Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet for more information on what Michael is referring to. Mattlore (talk) 20:34, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Speccy, I've let you know where I stand. If you're genuine I'm happy to try to get along with you; if you turn out to be a sockpuppet then you should be banned. That's plain speaking, not an attempt to intimidate. The source referred to in the Cotswolds article appears to be the best available. It's not just any source. If, however, there is a better source, such as a direct reference to the latest Ordnance Survey map, let's use that instead. Michael Glass (talk) 01:24, 28 July 2015 (UTC)