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| I have scrapped the section that claimed there was an anthem and all that: the claim is rather unusual, and its source (behind a kind of link to Gravrand which smacks of OR, and we know Gravrand isn't always to be trusted) was --and that article cites no material whatsoever, and is published in a journal in whose quality I don't have a lot of faith. ] (]) 14:18, 8 September 2012 (UTC) | I have scrapped the section that claimed there was an anthem and all that: the claim is rather unusual, and its source (behind a kind of link to Gravrand which smacks of OR, and we know Gravrand isn't always to be trusted) was --and that article cites no material whatsoever, and is published in a journal in whose quality I don't have a lot of faith. ] (]) 14:18, 8 September 2012 (UTC) | ||
| :In any case, it doesn't even suggest that the anthem, etc are older than the 19th century. It's not even clear that Gravrand says that. ] (]) 16:31, 8 September 2012 (UTC) | :In any case, it doesn't even suggest that the anthem, etc are older than the 19th century. It's not even clear that Gravrand says that. ] (]) 16:31, 8 September 2012 (UTC) | ||
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| I can't understand these tags for quotes from sources that clearly meet our criteria for sources, and have raised them at ] in the section headed Are <nowiki>{{dubious }} and {{opinion }}</nowiki> tags appropriate for these quotes by reliable sources ?] (]) 09:35, 11 August 2015 (UTC) | |||
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Disruptive Edits
I would like to ask whomever it is (Tamsier, 86.144.235.27, etc.) that keeps disrupting this page with strange edits to please cease. Arbitrary bolding, a cascade of obscure names without context or explanation, unconnected outlandish statements (some with chauvinistic overtones), etc. have rendered this article incomprehensible. Naming one book repeatedly (with no page references) is not quite "inline citations". I take it from the structure of your phrases that you are probably not a native English-speaker, which doesn't really help in keeping things clear. The objective of this encyclopedia is to make information understandable, not simply to pile it on. I'd be happy to help smooth over the language, but I can't make heads or tails out of your statements. I'm reversing your edits for now. If you have something to contribute, please try to make it as simple and understandable as you can - remember, most people who will be reading this have no idea about Senegalese history, so introductory context is helpful and necessary. Please provide appropriate citations. Please refrain from opinionated statements. Give the article some structure. And please don't bold things arbitrarily. Walrasiad (talk) 04:50, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
Please do not refer to my name when insulting others. You come across as very rude and arrogant. Tamsier (talk) 20:25, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
Gravrand dates this state to the 14th century
Look at : "Yet a closer look at other sources sheds a more nuanced light on Siin’s deeper past, with implications for its more recent history. Archaeology, for instance, suggests links with neighboring tumulus- and megalith-building societies, and trans-Saharan trading spheres beyond (S. K. McIntosh and R. J. McIntosh 1993; S. K. McIntosh 2001). Next, historical memory paints the region as a vibrant cultural frontier, shaped by migrations and cultural fusion. Oral traditions are rife with narratives of sweeping population movements from the north and the south, and trace the emergence of a kingdom to Mandinka migrations in the 14th century (Becker et al. 1991; N. Diouf 1972; Gravrand 1983; Sarr 1986- 1987). When documentary sources pick up the story, they depict the Siin as an active participant in Atlantic exchanges early on, and a more modest player after the 17th century," Gravrand, R.-P. H. 1983. La Civilisation Sereer. “Cosaan,” Les Origines. Les Nouvelles Éditions Africaines, Dakar. So if this is correct, Gravrand says Sine|Siin is a 14th century kingdom at the earliest. Dougweller (talk) 18:15, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
Anthem etc
I have scrapped the section that claimed there was an anthem and all that: the claim is rather unusual, and its source (behind a kind of link to Gravrand which smacks of OR, and we know Gravrand isn't always to be trusted) was this article--and that article cites no material whatsoever, and is published in a journal in whose quality I don't have a lot of faith. Drmies (talk) 14:18, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
- In any case, it doesn't even suggest that the anthem, etc are older than the 19th century. It's not even clear that Gravrand says that. Dougweller (talk) 16:31, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
Tags added today
I can't understand these tags for quotes from sources that clearly meet our criteria for sources, and have raised them at WP:RSN in the section headed Are {{dubious }} and {{opinion }} tags appropriate for these quotes by reliable sources ?Doug Weller (talk) 09:35, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
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