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::The reason I contacted you was so that we could get these articles updated with the most current research. On the other side of the aisle, it might be interesting to get the input of editors like ], who may be able to point us in the right direction. ] (]) 20:46, 12 August 2015 (UTC) | ::The reason I contacted you was so that we could get these articles updated with the most current research. On the other side of the aisle, it might be interesting to get the input of editors like ], who may be able to point us in the right direction. ] (]) 20:46, 12 August 2015 (UTC) | ||
:::I'm replying because Viriditas pinged me, and I thank Viriditas for thinking (probably incorrectly) that I'm that capable. My short answer is that "consciousness" is one of the most ill-defined concepts in the English language. Are we conscious when we are dreaming? Or when we are "zoned out"? Depends on how you define it. So you can define consciousness to apply only to humans (self-fulfilling definition), or define it to apply more widely (also self-fulfilling). Beyond that, please leave me out of this discussion. --] (]) 20:59, 12 August 2015 (UTC) |
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Death of Ian Tomlinson
hello. You are wp:editwarring on Death of Ian Tomlinson Govindaharihari (talk) 19:44, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
Gladsmuir
I asked and was given permission to stand on the front lawn of Gladsmuir. There is still a car but there was nothing I could do about that. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:04, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
- Hi Philafrenzy, I'm just being super cautious. I'm sure it's fine, especially if you had permission. I've been looking through your photographs of the whole area. They're really wonderful. I've driven through it a few times, but never stopped to look carefully. Sarah 21:19, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
- I wrote that before I saw your new photograph. It's great, thank you! Sarah 21:22, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
- Actually, Phil, if you live near there and have spoken to the owners (and so long as they know it's for Misplaced Pages), I wonder whether they would ever let you take photographs inside, or at the back. There are apparently some interesting features, including a weather vane from 1775. Sarah 21:26, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
- I got permission from the security man. I think they have had photographers before. I regret to say that I doubt I would get permission to go inside or round the back. With full time security and lots of cameras I think they guard their privacy very carefully. I was surprised really that I was allowed to take that shot. Every other house in MH is listed or has an interesting history. Not so Hadley Wood, however, which is stockbroker and footballer territory with barely a shred of history. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:34, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, that makes sense, and asking would feel awkward. Sarah 21:39, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
- The answer with these houses is to wait until they put it up for sale and make sure you capture all the inside shots from the estate agent's listing using Internet Archive or a similar service. Those links can then be incorporated into the article. Lowbridge Estate and Hadley Lodge for instance. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:52, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
- I got permission from the security man. I think they have had photographers before. I regret to say that I doubt I would get permission to go inside or round the back. With full time security and lots of cameras I think they guard their privacy very carefully. I was surprised really that I was allowed to take that shot. Every other house in MH is listed or has an interesting history. Not so Hadley Wood, however, which is stockbroker and footballer territory with barely a shred of history. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:34, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
- Actually, Phil, if you live near there and have spoken to the owners (and so long as they know it's for Misplaced Pages), I wonder whether they would ever let you take photographs inside, or at the back. There are apparently some interesting features, including a weather vane from 1775. Sarah 21:26, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
Female mentorship
Nice to see you have time to work on that article, question though. You added sources but a large amount of the promotionialism is still in the article. Do you have plans on copy editing or getting people to work on the article? I am loathe to do it as it might require a female touch but I still think it is needing a rewrite. I'm willing to hold off on that if you are still working on the article. Let me know please and i will respect the fact if you are planning on working on it and leave it be. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 12:54, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
- It's more or less back to a stub now, so perhaps someone familiar with it will build it up again. Sarah 17:48, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
- I see that, you did a great job! ThNks for the reply. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 20:45, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Template:Core content policy talk
Template:Core content policy talk has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:33, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Template:Controversial groups
Template:Controversial groups has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:47, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
Mattress performance
Hi, the boys have put in a Camille Paglia quote, lengthening the section on responses. Will you put your two cents on the Talk page when you have a chance?--A21sauce (talk) 19:34, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
- Just one boy. I for the record had nothing to do with that and can't vouch for the content. I merely commented that the stated reasons for A21sauce's revert seemed flimsy. --Sammy1339 (talk) 20:07, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
- The editors chiming in are guys. Also, lengthening the article is a flimsy reason? Right.--A21sauce (talk) 20:20, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
Animal cognition article
- The scientific status of "consciousness" in animals continues to be hotly debated. Serious consideration of conscious thought in animals has been advocated by some (e.g., Donald Griffin), but the larger research community has been notably cool to such suggestions.
I've added an "update needed" tag to this section because of the above paragraph which is poorly cited to material from 1985 and 2006 respectively. I very much doubt that this is still "hotly debated". Everything I've read within the last decades says otherwise. The archaic notion that animals don't have consciousness has been used to justify eating them and experimenting on them. I doubt that current science still supports this antiquated notion. Viriditas (talk) 02:08, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
- That attitude is oddly common on Misplaced Pages. I've never understood why it's so prominent here. Sarah 16:27, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
- The reason I contacted you was so that we could get these articles updated with the most current research. On the other side of the aisle, it might be interesting to get the input of editors like User:Tryptofish, who may be able to point us in the right direction. Viriditas (talk) 20:46, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
- I'm replying because Viriditas pinged me, and I thank Viriditas for thinking (probably incorrectly) that I'm that capable. My short answer is that "consciousness" is one of the most ill-defined concepts in the English language. Are we conscious when we are dreaming? Or when we are "zoned out"? Depends on how you define it. So you can define consciousness to apply only to humans (self-fulfilling definition), or define it to apply more widely (also self-fulfilling). Beyond that, please leave me out of this discussion. --Tryptofish (talk) 20:59, 12 August 2015 (UTC)