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== Request to Lankiveil for adjudication == | |||
I am seeking your valued judgment in pursuit of correcting a gross misrepresentation and in my view totally unjustified blocking/deletion action by a fellow Wikipedian under code name ScrapIronIV. | |||
The issue is as follows: In Misplaced Pages's "Hungarians in Australia" website there is a "Also see" portal which follows the article proper. Under that portal, my recent entry contribution was a subject of interest to Misplaced Pages readers but more so to Hungarians, Hungarian descent ones and to ethno-social researchers in future. ScrapIron IV arbitrarily deleted this contribution, the subject title of which was "Hungarian Immigration in Australia". As required, my entry was properly cross-referenced to the specific website of the Australian Dictionary of Biography, administered by the Australian National University History Department. The subject is important enough to be a source of information in line with Misplaced Pages guidelines. So why the deletion? What is the problem? I sought his argument and ScrapIron's response in verbatim was: | |||
" This article is not your website. Whether it is of interest to anyone but you is questionable at best. It is an unvetted, unsourced, and personal essay - by you personally - that you are attempting to insert into the article. Please see WP:COI as you have a clear conflict of interest in attempting to push it into a list-class article. You need to find another place to promote your essay; Misplaced Pages is not that place. Scr★pIronIV 04:37, 23 July 2015 (UTC)". | |||
My contention is that far from promoting myself thus violation of WP: Conflict of Interest rules as the author of the article alleges, instead I wish to spread the knowledge of the history of Hungarian immigration in Australia in the appropriate Misplaced Pages site (not my name for mentioning there)to those interested and prepared to access my research based, thoroughly vetted and sourced article/essay. Naturally every scholarly work has its author and I make no apologies for my article published online at The Australian Dictionary of Biography's "Essays" portal, under:http://adb.anu.edu.au/essay/13. | |||
Thank you] (]) 08:59, 23 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
:{{ping|Attilaurm}} I'm sorry to say that while I do think that ] was slightly unkind in the way he put it, I'm afraid I do find I agree with the substance of their argument. There's nothing wrong with your essay, and congratulations are in order for getting it published somewhere reputable like the ADB. But there's just something a little off about linking to your own essay. I think it'd be best to wait for someone independent and unrelated to make the call about whether it should be included as a source or an external link. ] <sup>(])</sup> 11:08, 24 July 2015 (UTC). | |||
::The post to which I responded on my talk page was a shouted "UNJUSTIFIED DELETION" header with accusations of my edit being arbitrary, accompanied by threats to report me to Misplaced Pages administration. So, if my response was less than perfectly kind, then all I can say is that one catches more flies with honey than with vinegar. ''']<sup>]</sup>''' 13:31, 24 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
:::Indeed, that's a good point too that ] should take account of. A little less haste to pull the trigger and a little more kindness and understanding might have stopped the situation getting unpleasant. ] <sup>(])</sup> 09:10, 25 July 2015 (UTC). | |||
:::: Thanks Lankiveil for your reflection. It is pleasing to see that you agree on the merit of the article that I tried to cross-reference into Misplaced Pages, mentioning as secondary, the august institution A.D.B. that already published it for the benefit of the Australian public. I was naturally more than annoyed as in this case the messenger was shot under false accusations with the deletion of the User: ScrapIronIV. My warning to him was not a threat but I concede that it should not have intimated the High Court of Misplaced Pages when I sought justice, when in fact I referred the matter for your adjudication as a first step. Now that the situation has been clarified, the test of genuineness will be seen when the deletion is restored. Thank you] (]) 02:17, 30 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
== REQUEST TO LANKIVEIL FOR ANOTHER NEW ISSUE FOR ADJUDICATION == | == REQUEST TO LANKIVEIL FOR ANOTHER NEW ISSUE FOR ADJUDICATION == | ||
Emboldened by your advice to me when responding to my earlier Request to you for adjudication, | Emboldened by your advice to me when responding to my earlier Request to you for adjudication, | ||
on 12 August 2015, ScrapIronIV saw to fit to delete once more arbitrarily and in wholesale fashion, this time the entire Reference Section which had been designed by Misplaced Pages to provide space for valuable general supportive information about content matters in the Article concerned. In this instance listed Notable Hungarians, Hungarian Immigration in Australia etc., are all directly relevant reference literature contributed by Misplaced Pages Users in good faith and for the benefit of all Misplaced Pages readers. Thank you.] (]) 01:32, 15 August 2015 (UTC) | on 12 August 2015, ScrapIronIV saw to fit to delete once more arbitrarily and in wholesale fashion, this time the entire Reference Section which had been designed by Misplaced Pages to provide space for valuable general supportive information about content matters in the Article concerned. In this instance listed Notable Hungarians, Hungarian Immigration in Australia etc., are all directly relevant reference literature contributed by Misplaced Pages Users in good faith and for the benefit of all Misplaced Pages readers. Thank you.] (]) 01:32, 15 August 2015 (UTC) | ||
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you saw my message didn't you, it was three minutes before your last edit - please reply ] (]) 07:08, 25 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
:{{ping|Govindaharihari}} For whatever reason I didn't get a notification, but assuming you are talking about , I don't agree with your reasoning. I don't see any particular hurry, and once we're over the seven day mark it can be closed by anyone as soon as there's consensus. Other than that, I think my reasoning is explained by my relist comment. ] <sup>(])</sup> 09:09, 25 July 2015 (UTC). | |||
::it has already been open ten days, ] there is and was already a clear consensus when you re-listed it ] (]) 23:19, 25 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
::You need to accept, apart from conflicted ] wikipedia editors no one is interested· - a few people commented - its over, close it down, reopen it for nothing, no one is coming - as for your claim of explanation in your relist comment, you were wrong also, you should have just created the redirect and closed the discussion. ] (]) 23:28, 25 July 2015 (UTC) | |||
:::There is no consensus, there is nobody asking for a redirect except you. Perhaps people will go for that, perhaps they won't. Your coming here to my talkpage and aggressively insulting me is unlikely to change that view. I think you need to consider your own desire to be rid of the page is clouding your assessment of the discussion. I'm not willing to enter into further discussion of this type here, take it to ] if you feel you must. ] <sup>(])</sup> 04:21, 26 July 2015 (UTC). | |||
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REQUEST TO LANKIVEIL FOR ANOTHER NEW ISSUE FOR ADJUDICATION
Emboldened by your advice to me when responding to my earlier Request to you for adjudication, on 12 August 2015, ScrapIronIV saw to fit to delete once more arbitrarily and in wholesale fashion, this time the entire Reference Section which had been designed by Misplaced Pages to provide space for valuable general supportive information about content matters in the Article concerned. In this instance listed Notable Hungarians, Hungarian Immigration in Australia etc., are all directly relevant reference literature contributed by Misplaced Pages Users in good faith and for the benefit of all Misplaced Pages readers. Thank you.Attilaurm (talk) 01:32, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
Happy First Edit Day
Happy First Edit Day, Lankiveil, from the Misplaced Pages Birthday Committee! Have a great day! Anastasia (talk) 00:55, 12 August 2015 (UTC) |
Jason McLean
Hi I'm new and I wrote the page on jason mclean I have now added the disclaimer to his weebly. http://jasonmclean.weebly.com/biography.html I made his wiki site for his bday present, and now you deleted it. I am really disliking wikipedia right now. https://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Jlfraser37#Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Jason_McLean this is an awful experience. Jennifer Fraser
- @Jlfraser37: I'm sorry your experience has not been positive, but Misplaced Pages absolutely cannot under any circumstances hold onto copyrighted text. I note that the page on Weebly now has an explicit licence release (this is good, it means we can hold onto it for now), but the tone of the article is still no good for a neutral encyclopædia article. I'll chip away at it to see what I can do this afternoon, but it may still attract some negative attention from other editors. Lankiveil 06:09, 16 August 2015 (UTC).
please give me a few days I will be editing it. He should have a wikipedia page. and what I am posting is what I have written. No this is not a good experience at all. Also, I have permission to use the images I am using. it is 2am where I am, I don't want to fight with editors on wikipedia right now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jlfraser37 (talk • contribs) 06:13, 16 August 2015 (UTC) and thank you for editing the page. Can you ask reddogsix to stop deleting things too? Woah!! wikipedia is out of control. I added a picture I took and gave it free to wikipedia, but editor be cray cray. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jlfraser37 (talk • contribs) 06:31, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
Palestine-Israel articles 3 arbitration case opened
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