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== Theres a Mistake you need to take in consideration == | |||
This text above is the original content exist from the started ( at least 2/1 uears ago ) , the only part i add are about tremendous records in Asia and the best selling foreign artist in Japan . Thats all . | |||
how do you explain and removed a big part of Original content ? <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> | |||
:First, please sign your posts as explained here ]. Second, I already stated why on the comments: because they're ] and gives an ] to the group in question. There's no need to write such a detailed paragraph for a single group because this article is about boy bands in general not just one specific boy band.--<span style="font-family:Brush Script;">''''']'''''</span> 14:59, 1 September 2015 (UTC) | |||
youre wrong about ; | |||
1. The title - the original title stated the other boyband and TVXQ ( South Korean boyband ) is included in the title | |||
2. You deleted the title | |||
3. The new article stated TVXQ had a success all over Asia but theres no legit source in that , | |||
4. I stated TVXQ had a massive success all over Asia and The Group is the best selling foreign artist in Japan and put a directed ( legit ) proof to that . | |||
so how do you explain ? You did not put any source and change a big part of original content ( you change the original Title as well ) and all i did is put a source to support the original text <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 15:18, 1 September 2015 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
:Yes I did change the title as TVXQ was never that big to begin with. The title is reserved for boy bands who are iconic to the decade in question. For example, Backstreet Boys is mentioned in the title because obviously they're the biggest boy band in the world in the early 2000s. Westlife is very big in Europe and Asia. Jonas Brothers was the biggest boy band of the "new" generation, as in late 2000s. And F4 is the only Asian boy band who ever blew up big, on par with BSB/Westlife popularity in Asia. That's why those 4 boy bands are in the title. And like I mentioned earlier,there's no need to mention a single group's achievement, unless it's very significant. Also you need to provide a source that support the statement that TVXQ was big all over Asia. Or if you can't find a source you can remove the statement.--<span style="font-family:Brush Script;">''''']'''''</span> 15:25, 1 September 2015 (UTC) | |||
Ok there youre are being bias here , | |||
how do you explain The original title remain the same over the past years until you changed it based on your bias logic | |||
and what about F4 ? They are nothing compare to TVXQ , you better dont pull a joke here | |||
how do i proof TVXQ is big all over Asia ? **** i put a link in first place to support the statements and you said yourselvee that this is not where one should wrote an essay | |||
TVXQ is among the Top 30 significant boyband in history | |||
http:/top40.about.com/od/Performers/ss/Top-30-Boy-Bands-Of-All-Time-A-History.htm <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 15:51, 1 September 2015 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
:That site is not reliable. Now if you were around in the early 2000s you'd know how big F4 was. They were virtually inescapable in Asia. TVXQ never reached their level of popularity. Now Super Junior's popularity was maybe closer to F4's. Please use this guide ] on how to properly cite non-English articles.--<span style="font-family:Brush Script;">''''']'''''</span> 16:06, 1 September 2015 (UTC) | |||
Youre the most retard editor o had ever meet , i actually put a link for sake and support the statements and you want to doubt it baaed on your own " experience " , are hella joking ?? | |||
Your are bias here obviously | |||
and you are not respomd to my questioned yet , hpw the gell the title remained the same over the past years ? Are you sayong other editor did not do their work ? | |||
F4 ? Are ya Joking ? How do you prove they are big in Asia ? Bullshit ? | |||
TVXQ attracted 393,000 attendance across Asia alone in 2008 . F4 ? BULLSHIT <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 16:15, 1 September 2015 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
:Basically, yes the title was incorrect before. But they are correct now. Now if you can't have a civil and objective discussion I'll no longer reply. Obviously you're just a fan. Please read up how Misplaced Pages works. ]--<span style="font-family:Brush Script;">''''']'''''</span> 16:22, 1 September 2015 (UTC) | |||
you did not respond to whole question i throw dumb | |||
how the hell you prove F4 is big in Asia ??? | |||
You dumb editors edit Wiki based on uour ' experience " and bias ??? LMAO | |||
TVXQ is tge only Asia Artist to be invited to Michael Jackson Tribute to repreasent the WHOLE FREAKING ASIA .. where the hell is F4 ,?? | |||
TVXQ break Bon Jovi records countlessly .... F4 ? LMAO | |||
did F4 ever got praise directly by Backstreetboy ? HELL NO , I had a prove and link Backstreetboys praise TVXQ high directly | |||
LMAO so the title is not correct before over the past years until you interupted it based on your bias ??? BULLSHIT <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 16:28, 1 September 2015 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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10 Best selling boy bands
Since the article List of best-selling boy bands has been deleted. I think it would be nice to incorporate the main content into this article. I've rewritten the content here http://en.wikipedia.org/User:Krystaleen/sandbox. I want to insert this in the article. Any opinion?--Krystaleen (talk) 03:34, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
- I'm gonna go ahead and put it if no one objects by tomorrow.--Krystaleen 07:21, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
- Since nobody objected, I'm gonna be bold and add it later today.--Krystaleen 04:50, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
Shouldn't The Beatles be the top-selling boy band of all time? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.90.251.47 (talk) 00:12, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
I know this comes really late but I actually thought that list of boy bands page was interesting. The female version remains so I don't know why the male version went unless it was people constantly changing it. Seeing the different boybands in different countries and how different groups in countries were successful. It would be interesting now as current boybands would be entering onto the lists for different countries and so would be an article that was constantly changing with the times.
Best selling boyband rank and countries
Why were the ranks removed? We're counting the top ten so it's necessary. Second, there's a reason I didn't use that country template, because it's overkill and I think makes the table bloated. Maybe use the template with just the flags if you must.--Krystaleen 02:49, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
Blink-182?
When was Blink-182 ever considered a boy band? They did a video mocking them, but that didn't make them one. Unless there are reliable sources to the contrary, they should be removed from the article. --‖ Ebyabe - Opposites Attract ‖ 22:51, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
A-ha?!
A-ha is another band which doesn't really belong in this article. What criteria are we using to distinguish a "boy band" from any other all-male band? A-ha wrote their own songs, played their own instruments, chose their own clothes, were not dancers and didn't use choreographers, formed by themselves, got "discovered" the old-fashioned way by sending demo tapes to record companies, and had a definite lead singer with the two backing singers who were primarily instrumentalists rarely singing solo or even having substantial vocal parts in the band. The only characteristics which fit the "boy band" pigeonhole are that they were young men when they became famous and were particularly popular with girls. If that's all it takes to be labelled a "boyband", we could apply that label to The Beatles, Bon Jovi, Elliot Minor, Maroon 5... you get the idea. --Contains Mild Peril (talk) 09:36, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, by all means take them out. The only criteria should be that reliable sources call them a boyband. Anyone who understands what that means would exclude them.--SabreBD (talk) 12:09, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
- I think it's better to completely remove them than writing this: "though they were not a boy band in the usual sense: they played their own instruments, wrote their own songs and felt burdened by their poster-boy image" because a lot of manufactured boy bands did/felt the same. Besides, the lead paragraph of the article already says that some boy bands do play instruments so it's not a strong enough reason to be listed there. I do agree they're not a boy band so I vote to remove them from the article.--Krystaleen 13:51, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
- Fair enough. Contains Mild Peril (talk) 16:06, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
- I think it's better to completely remove them than writing this: "though they were not a boy band in the usual sense: they played their own instruments, wrote their own songs and felt burdened by their poster-boy image" because a lot of manufactured boy bands did/felt the same. Besides, the lead paragraph of the article already says that some boy bands do play instruments so it's not a strong enough reason to be listed there. I do agree they're not a boy band so I vote to remove them from the article.--Krystaleen 13:51, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
One Direction
Can somebody update the list of top ten best selling boy bands? One Direction should definitely be on there somewhere. Their label Columbia Records recently put out a press release stating they've sold more than 65 million records http://www.columbiarecords.com/news/865 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.201.25.208 (talk) 06:12, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
- WP:PRIMARY You need to find a reliable secondary source for this.--Krystaleen 15:04, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
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Theres a Mistake you need to take in consideration
This text above is the original content exist from the started ( at least 2/1 uears ago ) , the only part i add are about tremendous records in Asia and the best selling foreign artist in Japan . Thats all .
how do you explain and removed a big part of Original content ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MugenDarkness (talk • contribs)
- First, please sign your posts as explained here WP:SIGN. Second, I already stated why on the comments: because they're fancruft and gives an undue weight to the group in question. There's no need to write such a detailed paragraph for a single group because this article is about boy bands in general not just one specific boy band.--Krystaleen 14:59, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
youre wrong about ;
1. The title - the original title stated the other boyband and TVXQ ( South Korean boyband ) is included in the title
2. You deleted the title
3. The new article stated TVXQ had a success all over Asia but theres no legit source in that ,
4. I stated TVXQ had a massive success all over Asia and The Group is the best selling foreign artist in Japan and put a directed ( legit ) proof to that .
so how do you explain ? You did not put any source and change a big part of original content ( you change the original Title as well ) and all i did is put a source to support the original text — Preceding unsigned comment added by MugenDarkness (talk • contribs) 15:18, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
- Yes I did change the title as TVXQ was never that big to begin with. The title is reserved for boy bands who are iconic to the decade in question. For example, Backstreet Boys is mentioned in the title because obviously they're the biggest boy band in the world in the early 2000s. Westlife is very big in Europe and Asia. Jonas Brothers was the biggest boy band of the "new" generation, as in late 2000s. And F4 is the only Asian boy band who ever blew up big, on par with BSB/Westlife popularity in Asia. That's why those 4 boy bands are in the title. And like I mentioned earlier,there's no need to mention a single group's achievement, unless it's very significant. Also you need to provide a source that support the statement that TVXQ was big all over Asia. Or if you can't find a source you can remove the statement.--Krystaleen 15:25, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
Ok there youre are being bias here ,
how do you explain The original title remain the same over the past years until you changed it based on your bias logic
and what about F4 ? They are nothing compare to TVXQ , you better dont pull a joke here
how do i proof TVXQ is big all over Asia ? **** i put a link in first place to support the statements and you said yourselvee that this is not where one should wrote an essay
TVXQ is among the Top 30 significant boyband in history
http:/top40.about.com/od/Performers/ss/Top-30-Boy-Bands-Of-All-Time-A-History.htm — Preceding unsigned comment added by MugenDarkness (talk • contribs) 15:51, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
- That site is not reliable. Now if you were around in the early 2000s you'd know how big F4 was. They were virtually inescapable in Asia. TVXQ never reached their level of popularity. Now Super Junior's popularity was maybe closer to F4's. Please use this guide WP:NOENG on how to properly cite non-English articles.--Krystaleen 16:06, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
Youre the most retard editor o had ever meet , i actually put a link for sake and support the statements and you want to doubt it baaed on your own " experience " , are hella joking ??
Your are bias here obviously
and you are not respomd to my questioned yet , hpw the gell the title remained the same over the past years ? Are you sayong other editor did not do their work ?
F4 ? Are ya Joking ? How do you prove they are big in Asia ? Bullshit ?
TVXQ attracted 393,000 attendance across Asia alone in 2008 . F4 ? BULLSHIT — Preceding unsigned comment added by MugenDarkness (talk • contribs) 16:15, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
- Basically, yes the title was incorrect before. But they are correct now. Now if you can't have a civil and objective discussion I'll no longer reply. Obviously you're just a fan. Please read up how Misplaced Pages works. WP:NEUTRAL--Krystaleen 16:22, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
you did not respond to whole question i throw dumb
how the hell you prove F4 is big in Asia ???
You dumb editors edit Wiki based on uour ' experience " and bias ??? LMAO
TVXQ is tge only Asia Artist to be invited to Michael Jackson Tribute to repreasent the WHOLE FREAKING ASIA .. where the hell is F4 ,??
TVXQ break Bon Jovi records countlessly .... F4 ? LMAO
did F4 ever got praise directly by Backstreetboy ? HELL NO , I had a prove and link Backstreetboys praise TVXQ high directly
LMAO so the title is not correct before over the past years until you interupted it based on your bias ??? BULLSHIT — Preceding unsigned comment added by MugenDarkness (talk • contribs) 16:28, 1 September 2015 (UTC)