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First things first

The importance of this article to Wikiproject Albania is really high.We should focus first on adding as much information as possible and illustrations.And to focus that there will not be any edit-warring involved.Also the infobox needs a lot of work.A montage of pictures for the infobox wouldn't be bad.I will see to make one soon or later. Nixious6 (talk) 19:44, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

propose to change "battles" to "Start of rebellion"

objections? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nixious6 (talk • contribs) 23:25, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

And the point of this article is?

What is the point of this article. It looks like a bad copy of League of Lezhe and Scanderbeg articles here in wiki? Even the title is misleading. You cant call that rebellion. By this meter we should call Cromwell time period articles the rebellion of Cromwell?!?! I was lead here with the intention of seeing Albanian Ottoman wars article and not this misleading and useless article. Please rename it ASAP Aigest (talk) 07:58, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

The subject of this article is Skanderbeg's rebelion. Not time period. The rebellion broke up in western Macedonia also and many non-Albanians participated in it, supported by Venice, Zeta and Naples. On the other hand, most Ottoman soldiers who fought against rebels were local Albanians. I object its renaming to Albanian-Ottoman wars, which might be useless and misleading simplification. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 08:45, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Well you have an article Serbian-Ottoman wars while by your criteria it should not stand as it is because from the Serbian kingdom or empire there were Serbians, Montenegrins, Albanians, Bulgarians, Greeks, Vallachians (all these populations subject to kings of Serbia) and the same can be said for the Ottoman empire where we had Turkish, Serbians, Montenegrins, Albanians, Bulgarians, Greeks, Vallachians and also Kurdish, Armenians, Arabs etc. The same can be said for Croatian–Ottoman wars, Ottoman–Hungarian Wars, Byzantine–Ottoman Wars and we can go for hundreds of similar articles. That criteria is your own personal criteria, it's not scientific, is misleading and oh... this article is also WP:FORK~. If you need to have an article titled Skanderbeg's rebellion, it should include only events of 1443, (his escape from Ottoman army and the capture of Kruja castle by ruse de guerre for eg) Aigest (talk) 13:35, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

1. You accused me for creation of WP:FORK. Have you presented a link to the article which I forked? No. There is no such article.
2. The subject of this article is Skanderbeg's rebellion. There is an ocean of sources which support the assertion that it lasted for about 25 years. No doubt you know it.
3. I object its renaming to Albanian-Ottoman wars because it is useless and misleading simplification. Albania was established almost 500 years after the event which is subject of this article. It has never waged a war against the Ottoman Empire. Unlike many other countries from the list you presented. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 14:56, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

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