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The issue you and I both commented on at BLPN will be ongoing. The article subject will do everything he can - as he has done for years - to get the article to read in a manner that is complementary to him. He's very good at manipulating others (look at his profession as the best reason why this is true). I have nothing personally against him, I just would like for editors to stop doing his bidding when that bidding is so obviously to whitewash the article. He's not going to stop demanding changes until the article is devoid of all criticisms against him. I still believe it is best to ignore him. That said, the more he goes to BLPN, the more likely it is he will get an editor unaware of his history here and not getting that he's an SPA with a POV agenda and will do what he's asking. The whole thing really bugs me because of the obvious manipulation and whitewashing. I'm still amazed at those who don't see it. Why that portion of content was removed I still don't understand. I didn't see anything other than a quote from periodical that wasn't out of context at all. If it is put back it, it can be tweaked, but I don't see grounds for removing it completely. Thoughts? -- <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #0099FF, -4px -4px 15px #99FF00;">]</span> ● <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #FF9900, -4px -4px 15px #FF0099;">] ]</span> 18:03, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
The issue you and I both commented on at BLPN will be ongoing. The article subject will do everything he can - as he has done for years - to get the article to read in a manner that is complementary to him. He's very good at manipulating others (look at his profession as the best reason why this is true). I have nothing personally against him, I just would like for editors to stop doing his bidding when that bidding is so obviously to whitewash the article. He's not going to stop demanding changes until the article is devoid of all criticisms against him. I still believe it is best to ignore him. That said, the more he goes to BLPN, the more likely it is he will get an editor unaware of his history here and not getting that he's an SPA with a POV agenda and will do what he's asking. The whole thing really bugs me because of the obvious manipulation and whitewashing. I'm still amazed at those who don't see it. Why that portion of content was removed I still don't understand. I didn't see anything other than a quote from periodical that wasn't out of context at all. If it is put back it, it can be tweaked, but I don't see grounds for removing it completely. Thoughts? -- <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #0099FF, -4px -4px 15px #99FF00;">]</span> ● <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #FF9900, -4px -4px 15px #FF0099;">] ]</span> 18:03, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
:It's perfectly reasonable for an article subject to be interested in his own bio, ], and to not be interested in editing Misplaced Pages in general. Everybody doesn't have to be interested in Misplaced Pages as such, and you need to stop implying that it's some sort of crime. (I remember in November you had the notion it was a ''policy violation'' — I hope at least I've disabused you of that.) As for ignoring him, as you recommend, that's a good idea, I wish you ''would'' ignore him. Ignoring is better than attacking, especially when it's a real person editing under his real name. Also, Kosh Vorlon, please stop personalizing commentary at ], such as . You're an experienced editor, I'm sure you know all about "comment on the content, not on the editor." ] | ] 09:40, 24 December 2015 (UTC).
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Hey Kosh. There are so many issue with that statement that I felt it important to drop by.
policy should be enforced as written - from a high level WP:POLEMIC is a guideline and WP:NOTBURO is policy. The principle is what matters, not exact wording of the rules. Disputes are solved by discussion, not strict adherence to the rules. Does that make sense? The "rules" are just a description of what's happened before and likely will happen again... generally the right thing to do, but not be followed blindly. No matter whether you're right or wrong on the underlying issue, not understanding this fundamental principle is the reason you are blocked.
So, on to the underlying issue. Is the content on page in violation of POLEMIC? Honestly, I'd say no. POLEMIC in bold refers to Very divisive or offensive material not related to encyclopedia editing. Is what he's saying offensive? Barely. Very divisive? Not really. AND it's related to encyclopedic editing. It just doesn't fit in that section. It's not targeted at individuals or a specific group, let alone attacking or vilifying them. It's not a pre-meditated nasty attack, it's a person ranting on their way out the door. I don't agree with a word of it, but it's important to let people express themselves in situations like that.
Considering that my edit spoke of the fact that Tullian has publicly debated other with regards to his views, and the links I referenced go DIRECTLY to those debates, there should not be an issue. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BaptistBolt (talk • contribs) 18:51, 13 May 2013
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Dear tech ambassadors, instead of spamming the Village Pump of each Misplaced Pages about my tiny project proposal for researching team editing (see here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/Grants:IdeaLab/Research_team_editing), I have decided to leave to your own discretion if the matter is relevant enough to inform a wider audience already. I would appreciate if you could appraise if the Misplaced Pages community you are more familiar with could have interest in testing group editing "on their own grounds" and with their own guidance. In a nutshell: it consists in editing pages as a group instead of as an individual. This social experiment might involve redefining some aspects of the workflow we are all used to, with the hope of creating a more friendly and collaborative environment since editing under a group umbrella creates less social exposure than traditional "individual editing". I send you this message also as a proof that the Inspire Campaign is already gearing up. As said I would appreciate of *you* just a comment on the talk page/endorsement of my project noting your general perception about the idea. Nothing else. Your contribution helps to shape the future! (which I hope it will be very bright, with colors, and Misplaced Pages everywhere) Regards from User:Micru on meta.
let me spit in the face of that filthy bastard.. he deserves it!
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Don't mess with other user's pages -- especially with incorrect edit summaries. That content is not a template, it's a custom banner. NE Ent12:32, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
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Does "default" mean "minimum" in your world? Because that's not what it means. All it means is that the bot automatically delists the RFC after 30 days. It says "Editors may choose to end them earlier or extend them longer" right after that, which you conveniently neglected to mention. Conversely, Afd's are actually supposed to run for 7 days at least, but I never saw you complain when Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Assassination of Anna Politkovskaya was closed after a day and a half, which is even less time than the RFC you keep opening. You also (wrongly) invoked WP:BUROhere, but now suddenly you seem to have gone back to stubbornly enforcing policy to the letter in order to force the RFC back open. This behavior wastes other people's time and effort and has resulted in all your blocks. At what point are going to start listening to other editors?--Atlan (talk) 17:30, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
Look, I don't fault you for your consensus seeking, which I can only approve of. But you can't start an RFC on a minor issue and expect it to run 30 days. We're not in a hurry, but 30 days is just exceedingly long for this. I'm sorry I was brutally honest in my close of the RFC, but really, your reasoning was bizarre and you can already see no one agreeing with you. It is the same as with the AFD I linked to. The problem is that you are always so sure you are right and then push through with these actions. It can be a little exasperating. If you want, I can re-open the RFC for you, but I would advise against it. Trust me on this.--Atlan (talk) 22:27, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
I have reopened it anyway, because other people asked for it. You can read about it on the talk page. I believe this is silly process wonkery at work, but at least it's not your responsibility now.--Atlan (talk) 19:10, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
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The issue you and I both commented on at BLPN will be ongoing. The article subject will do everything he can - as he has done for years - to get the article to read in a manner that is complementary to him. He's very good at manipulating others (look at his profession as the best reason why this is true). I have nothing personally against him, I just would like for editors to stop doing his bidding when that bidding is so obviously to whitewash the article. He's not going to stop demanding changes until the article is devoid of all criticisms against him. I still believe it is best to ignore him. That said, the more he goes to BLPN, the more likely it is he will get an editor unaware of his history here and not getting that he's an SPA with a POV agenda and will do what he's asking. The whole thing really bugs me because of the obvious manipulation and whitewashing. I'm still amazed at those who don't see it. Why that portion of content was removed I still don't understand. I didn't see anything other than a quote from periodical that wasn't out of context at all. If it is put back it, it can be tweaked, but I don't see grounds for removing it completely. Thoughts? -- WV ● ✉✓18:03, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
It's perfectly reasonable for an article subject to be interested in his own bio, User:Winkelvi, and to not be interested in editing Misplaced Pages in general. Everybody doesn't have to be interested in Misplaced Pages as such, and you need to stop implying that it's some sort of crime. (I remember in November you had the notion it was a policy violation — I hope at least I've disabused you of that.) As for ignoring him, as you recommend, that's a good idea, I wish you would ignore him. Ignoring is better than attacking, especially when it's a real person editing under his real name. Also, Kosh Vorlon, please stop personalizing commentary at Rick Alan Ross, such as this edit summary. You're an experienced editor, I'm sure you know all about "comment on the content, not on the editor." Bishonen | talk09:40, 24 December 2015 (UTC).
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