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== Cossack Hetmanate again ==

Can you take a look at article ] again? There is a user who insists to say in the infobox that it was an Ottoman protectorate and ]. One some level, the some Hetmans did ask the Ottomans for help and got limited recognition form the Ottomans. But the Ottomans never did truly become an Ottoman vassal state because the Ottomans didn't follow through and consolidate the Cossack Hetmanate into its domain. Placing it in the infobox also puts ] weight on the multi-vectored foreign policy of the Cossack Hetmanate. Regardless, I would appreciate your input.--''']]''' 20:47, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

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Re: List of chairmen of the Verkhovna Rada

I think you're wrong. Turchynov is mentioned as one of the founding members of People's Front, according to this source (), so its quite logical that he represented it in the Parliament before November 27... Before that, he was a member of Batkivshchyna since 1999. --Sundostund (talk) 16:30, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

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  1. Template:Uk iconYatsenyuk became a leader of the "People's Front" political council, while Turchynov is a head of its headquarters. Ukrayinska Pravda. 10 September 2014
    Ukrainian PM, Parliament Speaker to Head Newly Formed Popular Front Party, RIA Novosti (10 September 2014)
Turchynov switched his party affiliation during his term as chairman, and it must be noted in the list. As of 10 September, he clearly became one of the leading figures of the People's Front (source which I showed to you clearly proves that), and he broke off his affiliation with Batkivshchyna. We can't claim that he was somehow part of Batkivshchyna after 10 September. Cheers. --Sundostund (talk) 22:57, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
Again, we can't claim something which isn't true. He wasn't affiliated with Batkivshchyna after 10 September, in the same way as Yatsenyuk and Avakov. They broke off, and found a new party. It would be a serious misleading of our readers if we left a claim in the list that he was affiliated with Batkivshchyna until November. Do we need to repeat ourselves for the rest of the night? --Sundostund (talk) 23:13, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
I'm not talking about parliamentary rules, but about reality. His switching of party membership in September must be noted in the list. Any claim that he was a member to Batkivshchyna after September would be a misleading of readers. How much times do I need to repeat it? --Sundostund (talk) 23:29, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
You deny that fact by your attempting to have that information removed from the list. --Sundostund (talk) 23:31, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
You're free to think whatever you want. We have to agree that we disagree, that's all. --Sundostund (talk) 23:44, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

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Boguslavmandzyuk, thank you for invitation. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 21:58, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

Np. There has been a depressingly high influx of Ukrainophobic POV on Misplaced Pages recently, distracting from building up content. For example, I have been occupied with other articles like Cossack Hetmante with a user who insists it was never a state, or several users on Donetsk People's Republic, who insist to call it a country... --BoguSlav 17:18, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

Boguslavmandzyuk, I do check them time to time, particularly the War in Donbass. I am aware of those Ukrop-hunters. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 01:02, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

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Your tagging of db-madeupsubject for various articles concerning the Donetsk People's Republic could be seen as disruptive. Don't repeat it, please. DGG ( talk ) 19:59, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

your readdition of the tagging is certainly disruptive. . A formal warning follows. DGG ( talk ) 20:01, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

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Hi, Nominating templates for deletion belong at WP:TFD, Not WP:AFD so I've closed the discussion
TFD is for Templates, AFD is for Articles, RFD is for Redirects etc etc .... You get the jist,
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Davey2010, thank you for notice. The issue re-opened at TFD. (20 January 2015) Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 04:31, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
You're welcome, Cheers and Happy Editing :) –Davey2010 04:33, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

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  • @Aleksandr. I suggest for you to withdraw this request. Making accusations on AN without providing any supporting diffs (as you did) amounts to a "personal attack". And after quickly looking at this, I can see absolutely nothing to suggest that you have been "harassed" by anyone. My very best wishes (talk) 16:48, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
My very best wishes, I have been accused in groundless "proding" and disruptive editing with warning to be blocked. In my proposals for deletion I stated that certain articles that are based on the recent events and they are in dispute. Because of that such articles need to be properly referenced, otherwise they qualify for original research. Nonetheless, the above mentioned users chose to ignore my arguments and accused me in political bias and threaten me with blocking. I managed to reason with one of them and the user completely re-edit the section that I challenged. I just do not understand why the user had to throw accusations and threats at me. Another user accused me in disruptive editing and posted an official warning on my talk page. Some articles which I proposed to be deleted were created by user who is blocked now. Those articles were poorly referenced and a lot of the stuff was clearly based on original research. After posting the AN notification, I had Beeblebrox suggesting me to familiarize with WP:BOOMERANG. I guess the user implied that I am causing edit wars. I simply asked for an advise on how to deal with things like that, instead I am being blamed from all over the place. What is going on? I do not understand why the users had to threaten me to pursue their point. Is that how we solve issues in Misplaced Pages from now on? Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 01:57, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
Here is the problem. None of the people involved (you, the admin or another user) provided any diffs of alleged wrongdoing (on AN or your talk page). You did not provide any diffs where someone harasses you, as you tell. They did not provide any diffs showing your disruptive editing or groundless prodding. Therefore I can not give you any real advice (P. provided a diffs on AN which do not show any problems). However, in the situation where no one provided any diffs, you are the guilty party by default, because it was you who came to AN with personal accusations unsupported by any evidence. I can only tell that admin who issued you this warning is probably one of the most peaceful people in the project, so you must be doing something really wrong, but I do not know what it was without diffs. My very best wishes (talk) 04:37, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
P.S. I only found this, which by itself should not be a reason for the warning above... My very best wishes (talk) 05:09, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

My very best wishes, no, it is not related. Psychonaut, simply got rid of it and I did not really challenged. The main issue was this. Did you read the talk page on the Secession article? The user wrote the following: "Over the last few days he's tried several times to blank, delete, or speedy-delete content on secessionist groups, and given completely bogus reasons for doing so." Psychonaut accuses me of "completely bogus reasons", while later the user completely rewrote the section.

I suggested the article List of political parties in the Donetsk People's Republic for deletion. The reason is the fact that there is no political parties in this "republic". Those political entities are technically public movements. I do not challenge existence of the Donetsk Republic organization. It is a Ukrainian separatist organization and was banned in 2007. I also place the Template:Political parties in Donetsk People's Republic on discussion for deletion due to the original research.

Others however are completely bogus and have no real supporting references. Such is the Communist Party of the Donetsk People's Republic. The article itself states that the so-called party was merged. The article was created by the user user:AsharaDayne who is banned now. Same goes to the List of political parties in the Donetsk People's Republic and Template:Political parties in Donetsk People's Republic. Also, the article gives impression that the party consist of one person, its leader, who simply changed from Ukraine to DPR. I think we may leave that article in place if good references would be provided. I think all communist parties as political parties of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation anyway. So, there is a really a little room to argue about.

I also suggested the Template:Donetsk People's Republic topics on the reason that it is based on original research. One of its categories is Geography. There is nothing in the world written about "Geography of the DPR" or "Culture of the DPR". And I do see how historical Russian guberniya Novorossiya really relates to this "republic". Even the main ideologist Andrei Purgin claimed the origin of the Donetsk People's Republic from the Donetsk–Krivoy Rog Soviet Republic. I think I provided his interview on the Purgin's article. I know that there are some similar political entities existed, but it seems that the template was composed by someone who is completely clueless in the history or politics of Ukraine and the history of Russian Empire.

I placed afd for Peace for Lugansk Region. The article's issue were not addressed for some time. The organizations is not a party. Some references are based on a Russian propaganda source and fails WP:V. Questionable is also the article on New Russia Party. It states that party merged after it existed for less than a month. At least it is moreless well referenced.

Also, coming back to the article on Bolotov, for which you mentioned this diff. Psychonaut, removed my categorization stating that the are no text in the article that mentions that. I did not challenge. I introduced a sentence explaining his status. Also, Bolotov is on the SBU wanted list for separatism (Article 110, part 2 of the Criminal Code of Ukraine, encroaches on the territorial integrity of Ukraine).

I had impression that I presented valid arguments for deletion of above-mentioned articles, instead I am being accused of political bias and based on that my arguments are being kicked aside. That is what I am trying to say. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 12:47, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

I am may be politically biased, but it is strange that some articles are being kept just in spite of me. I guess only the patriots of DPR could really challenge those articles for others it is taboo. Is that really the reason? It is simply ridiculous. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 12:50, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
What is guarantee that another admin would not go further and without warning simply block me without any discussions? Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 13:04, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
Here is just a few very general points (I wrote my opinion/advice about this here). (a) You edit in a subject area covered by discretionary sanctions, so you should read this. So, yes, you can be restricted and blocked, however you and others have certain rights. First of all, if you received a warning from an admin and do not understand why, you should politely ask him about this on his talk page, and he suppose to explain it with diffs, so that the reason for the warning is immediately obvious for you and anyone around. That did not happen. On the other hand, if you claim something about others, like being harassed, you should provide diffs, so that the alleged harassment is immediately obvious. That did not happen. Note that issuing you a proper warning by admin is not harassment. I hope it helps. Sorry, but I do not have time for this any more. My very best wishes (talk) 15:03, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
My very best wishes, my apologies for taking your time, however, your statement that I did not address the issue with the user on his talk page is not true, please check User talk:DGG#Disruptive editing. I agree about consensus mentioned by DGG, however, as I mentioned before some articles were created by a blocked user and could be subject for deletion. DGG claimed that is completely groundless. Is that really so and do I really deserved to be treated so? I asked for a second opinion from another administrator who said that such behavior is strange (user talk:DDima#Mediation request). I simply want to point out the fact that I acted based on wikipedia policies rather than going out and blindly deleting stuff without any consideration. I do not have intention to dramatize the issue, but rather to raise a flag. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 15:30, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
Also, some time ago I had several users, among which is user:Yoshi24517, nominating articles for speedy deletion without finding a consensus first (such as user talk:Aleksandr Grigoryev#Speedy deletion nomination of Laborious Ukraine Electoral Bloc). User DGG never intervened on those matters. I never went on with threats about disruptive editing, but rather follow up with the articles and improved them (if I could). Now I have all kinds of people accusing me of political bias and nationalism. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 16:18, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
Unlike the so called "political parties of the Donetsk People's Republic", the Laborious Ukraine Electoral Bloc at least was a real registered political entity. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 16:20, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
I do not see anything disruptive in my edits and worth to be formally warned of blocking. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 16:22, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
Apparently he issued you a warning for this. Not only you nearly made a WP:3RR violation, but using "speedy" tag in this manner was against the rules. Perhaps you did not know it, but you had to ask the user who reverted your edit, rather than revert his edits. Was that the reason for your AN request? If so, then instead of admitting your mistake, you filed a battleground request to AN. Do not you see it? My very best wishes (talk) 16:50, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
My very best wishes, OK, I think we are heading somewhere now. First of all, why is that me who in WP:3RR violation? I do not think the removal of a tag is the way to contest the proposed deletion. Second of all, that is not how DGG explained it to me. Third of all, the user who removed the edit could have explain the obviousness of removal or contest the nomination. I think I explained very well reasons for nominating. That other user only commented that the removal is obvious. Next thing I know I have DGG throwing accusations in disruptive editing, vandalism and formal warning without reasoning with me. How is that my mistake? If I was in violation of WP:3RR, it should be stated in that formal warning, instead I am accused in disruptive editing. Still, I do not see what so disruptive about it. If it was due to technicality of nomination, I would admit my mistake; if not, I do not see the purpose of accusations in my address. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 17:10, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
The template is obviously based on made up information and in violation of WP:original research. I stated it in my nomination, I think. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 17:13, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
Moreover, the template is created by a user who is currently blocked. With whom should have I find consensus first? Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 17:15, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
Also, I know we have this political situation right now and many users come up with various stuff. But I think any disputed issues should first be well documented, second we should not use our administrative resources exclusively to prove a point. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 17:24, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
Well, if you do not understand something, as you tell in your edit summary, you suppose to ask at talk page, rather than revert, which in that case can be reasonably qualified as POV-pushing by you. Looking at this, an admin issued you a warning. That looks to me pretty much as a legitimate admin. action. However, your complaint about this to AN was not legitimate, to tell this politely (see above). If you do not understand it, that's your problem.My very best wishes (talk) 17:32, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
My very best wishes, I apologize for infringe on 3RR. Why DGG did not stated it in the first place? Would it not be a more constructive method trying to reason? According to this edit, the user obviously suspects me in vandalism. Once again, I tried to reason with the user, yet he continues to have me listed on his vandalism list. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 17:54, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
And what about my arguments to the article? Are they being simply ignored? Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 17:56, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
My very best wishes, I re-read the history of edition on the Template:Donetsk People's Republic topics. I guess I am out of line here. My apology. Please, withdraw the AN notification. I will be more thorough next time and talk to someone else before addressing issues to AN. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 18:23, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
DGG, nah, user:My very best wishes convinced me that I am wrong. I guess I missed the pointer to move tag the article appropriately. I am the one who need to apologize. I guess I did not know that templates have certain other procedures. I could not imagine to treat them other than a regular article. Sorry, if it ruined your day and, please, don't keep a grudge. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 18:34, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
all's OK. I never make too much of a single incident. DGG ( talk ) 05:54, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

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Hi Aleksandr. Quick question: Is it O.K. to use this template: {{Eastern Slavic name}}? Because I see that a lot of articles on Russian people don't use it, yet its present in many Ukrainian biographies, such as Petro Poroshenko and the rest. So, I added it to some individuals, but my question is should I persist or it will be viewed as annoyance? Also, if its bothering some editors I can remove it from the articles that I put it in. Many thanks in advance.--Mishae (talk) 19:35, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Mishae, personally I do not find it bothersome. I think it is useful as it eliminates disambiguity for people not familiar with the Russian Orthodox culture. Some users or viewer may find it annoying, though. I do not see anything wrong in introducing it to each article related to people from the East Slavic culture. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 19:57, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. I will ask Bakharev as well. I was just shocked that only 1% of the whole articles relating to either Russians or Ukrainians use this template.--Mishae (talk) 20:01, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Municipality or Council?

What do you think? Is it reasonable that we keep the titles as "Municipality" (cf. Yalta Municipality) to refer to cities of regional significance (city councils) and just plain "Council" to refer to the other local government areas such as Settlement/Village Council articles (cf. Dolynske Council instead of naming it Dolynske Village Council)? I feel like there should be a separation between cities and their local government areas and other types of settlements and their local government ares because cities carry much more stature and regional importance. Hence the difference in naming. § DDima 18:38, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

DDima, thank you for asking me that. I also wanted to talk about it. I believe there is a great deal of ambiguity in local government definitions. In my perception city and city of regional (oblast, republican) significance or city of district significance are two different terms. In the first instance the term implies a populated places, in other - a municipality as a territorial subdivision of region. There is too little information on that matter available online and practically no real explanation of the origin. It seems to me that cities municipalities derived from the Russian city municipalities (gradonachalstvo). The use of council is also only adds ambiguity as council cannot really be a form of government, but rather sets rules. It seems that council in the given situation means rather a board or a commission (such as in Council–manager government). I think municipality would a good way to interpret the Soviet term of council. For your mentioned example Dolynske Village Council could be reinterpreted as Dolynske Rural Municipality (please, check Rural municipality). Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 20:01, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
In short, I think we should adopt following interpretations, city municipality for miskrada and rural municipality for silrada. For selyshchna rada there should be municipality of urban settlement or township. Note, that on many occasions a territory of such municipality often coincides with a populated place and in my opinion such a fact should be mentioned. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 20:09, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

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Regarding a edit you made on the 21st of December, 2010 here, do you have any idea of what you used as a source? As you can see Petro Panch is redlinked, so I want to make a article/stub (depending on amount of sources). Thanks! Acalycine 10:04, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Acalycine, I used the Ukrainian Misplaced Pages or sometimes its Russian equivalent if the latter would have more external links and websources. If your Russian is fine, I suggest you to check there the article on Petro Panch (Pyotr Panch). Russians like Ukrainians for some reason translate each other names. I guess it some kind of a tradition. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 12:20, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
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I've noticed you have edited the Galicia article and I was wondering if you could check this diff done by an IP account to see if it is correct. Thanks! Liz 20:36, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Liz, yea. Well, that edit is done by someone who does not speak English language. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 21:12, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

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Urban-type settlements

I've asked similar questions concerning this statistical and administrative designation for towns in Ukraine, before, but are the listings on the article List of urban-type settlements in Ukraine by subdivision listings of urban-type settlements regardless or not of whether they have that administrative designation, or is it just administrative urban-type settlements? Could that be made more clear on that page, since that kind of designation can be statistical, administrative, or both? It appears to me from what I'm beginning to understand that while ALL settlements designation as urban-type settlements by statistical definition, that not all statistical urban-type settlements have a corresponding urban-type settlement administration. That is to say that an urban-type settlement in a statisical sense can be governed by a settlement council, but could also just be a settlement within a raion or city with no corresponding settlement council. --Criticalthinker (talk) 08:08, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

I think you are overthinking it. Practically each populated place in Ukraine regardless whether it is urban-settlement, city, village are all have own council that govern them. Depending on type of the place, those councils are called after them. Rural settlements are less common and usually do not have separate councils, so are private cottage villages (dacha settlements). Councils are pretty much your primary or basic territorial subdivision of Ukraine. They could be seen also as municipalities. In villages, councils are small and headed by a head of village (holova) who also appoints his or her executive cabinet that is some other four to five people. Urban settlements are usually bigger (but not always) therefore have bigger councils. The head of settlement council often has a similar type of executive committee as in a regular village. Cities are a bit different. First of all they are categorized into three categories depending on their significance (district, region, or special status). Second of all may have their own subdivisions depending on the decision of the city's community. Third of all each city has its own mayor, elections of which are conducted separately. All councils, village, urban settlement, city compose your rayon (district), while regional municipality are treated as such. The before mentioned are in their order part of a region such as oblast or an autonomous republic in case of Crimea. At the same time special status municipalities (cities with special status) are designated as a separate region. I hope my explanation helped. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 10:06, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
I'm asking specifically about urban-type settlements and their respective councils. I understand the other kinds of councils/administrations (city and village/rural councils). I'm asking specifically about the page I linked to. --Criticalthinker (talk) 10:58, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
All urban-settlements have own settlement council. I am not certain about statistical point of view on it, but all settlement councils are subordinated to districts (rayon) or regional municipalities. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 09:46, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. So every territorial unit listed as an "urban-type settlement" on that list has a corresponding settlement council. That's all I was really asking. I was under the impression that you could have settlement/territory called an urban-type settlement, but that it wasn't necessarily governed as an urban-type settlement in the administrative sense. So, an "urban-type settlement" is always and administrative division. --Criticalthinker (talk) 11:39, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
Criticalthinker, yep. There is nothing really special. In fact most populated places have own council except for rural settlements. Councils of cities of regional significance administer the city proper and the surrounding municipality that may or not include adjacent populated places with own councils which are subordinated to the corresponding councils of municipality that belong. I hope the last statement made any sense. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 23:00, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
Yes, that last sentence made sense. I guess what was confusing me was that unlike here in the United States with a few exceptions, "cities" here are usually always on the level of what in Ukraine would be urban-type and village/settlement councils. It seems that in Ukraine, a settlement with a city council is always administratively seperate of the district/raion that may surround it. In the United States, save for a few cases where a city and a county have consolidated into one entity, a city council is always an administrative level below the surrounding county; a county in America seems to be on the same administrative level as a raion or city in Ukraine. Just as an example, here in my homestate of Michigan, the City of Detroit while still a fairly large city has the same level of administrative "significance" as the small neighboring community of River Rouge. Both of these communities, despite differences of size and economic importance, are equal in administrative significance under our states constitution, and both communities are within the jurisdiction Wayne County, meaning that these cities don't exist respectively as their own counties like they would in Ukraine. In Ukraine, from what I can tell, a city like Detroit would be a "city of regional or oblast significance" or at least a "city of district significance" meaning that it would form its own district totally independent of that of surrounding Wayne County. Anyway, I'm just rambling, but I hope that shows you my thought process. --Criticalthinker (talk) 07:22, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
Out of technicality, you should also consider that any council has own executive committee, so locally there still is your legislative form of government and executive. Judicial form government starts from districal division (2nd level of country's division). The head of village council or settlement council acts as the head of legislation and municipality, while being elected among the members of local council. In cities there are special mayoral elections, in which residents of each city elect own mayor. The only city that does not have a mayor is the city of Sevastopol, while mayor of the city of Kiev acts as both mayor and city's governor (head of city state administration). Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 23:09, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

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Hi! Could you explain what kind of clarification is necessary here? Alæxis¿question? 18:13, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

Alaexis, first of all, why combatant and not militant? Combatants are members of Armed Forces and carry corresponding insignia. Was that so with the Abkhazian side? It looks very like that the so-called separatists were in fact the Russian military servicemen as the Russian Federation has a military base in Gudauta. Very similar episode took place with annexation of Crimea. Who could guarantee that any Russian soldiers based in Gadauta or near Georgia at that time did not participate in the conflict? Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 01:17, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
Alaexis, this report (GEORGIA/ABKHAZIA: VIOLATIONS OF THE LAWS OF WAR AND RUSSIA'S ROLE IN THE CONFLICT (March 1995)) calls them fighters and provides a valid suspect that there was no Abkhazian separatists, but simply Russian soldiers who call themselves so. It is exactly like the Russian Federation fights today in Donbas. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 10:17, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
Well, I've used the term because it's used in the report. The definition of combatant is "a person, group, or country that fights in a war or battle" which seems suitable and NPOV in this case. Btw this report covers Russia's role in this conflict nicely, I've used it a lot in WP. Alæxis¿question? 18:58, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
I think fighter suits better. Merriam-webster also gives good explanation. Combatant is more technical and usually applies for uniformed military servicemen which in case of so-called "Abkhazian separatists" with Russian or Soviets passports could barely be the case. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 20:50, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
Alaexis, the war in Abkhazia was a Russian proxy war against Georgia using local criminals and own dressed up soldiers acting as "separatists". Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 20:53, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

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I have a question and I wondered whether you perhaps knew the answer to it. Its about the Russo-Persian War (1722–23). During this war, the Cossack Hetmanate under Apostol joined the war upon Peters request, but I'm not sure, was the Cossack Hetmanate subordinate to Russia at that time already? In 1722-1723? Because for now I have added the hetmanate as a "subordinate" ally for Imperial Russia by the "*" sign, but I wanted to be sure about this.

Appreciate it if you have any comment to say about this. ;-)

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LouisAragon, Apostol became the Hetman of Zaporizhian Host not until 1727. He however could have led Zaporizhian Host in a battle. The Cossack Hetmanate at that period was governed by the Collegium of Little Russia and led by Stepan Velyaminov. The acting hetman Pavlo Polubotok was never confirmed by the Russian government. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 02:47, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

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You can mention it in the article, I guess. It seems that his name was recorded according to the Romanization of Ukrainian in Misplaced Pages. About the passport, I should say that it is not an ultimate document and could be inaccurate especially from Ukraine. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 00:27, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
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@Future Perfect at Sunrise: I apologize, but it is in the referenced article, without that information it sounds like Ukrainian authorities discriminate Russians in the country, which totally wrong. I really did not mean to offend you or anyone else with that. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 16:52, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

I agree that the article brings up opinion of some third parties, but just a plain sentence as it is in the Misplaced Pages article shows discrimination of the Ukrainian government against Russian minority. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 17:36, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
Future Perfect at Sunrise, here is another website that calls Russian propaganda relentless (BBC). Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 18:28, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

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Cossack Hetmanate again

Can you take a look at article Cossack Hetmanate again? There is a user who insists to say in the infobox that it was an Ottoman protectorate and sanjak. One some level, the some Hetmans did ask the Ottomans for help and got limited recognition form the Ottomans. But the Ottomans never did truly become an Ottoman vassal state because the Ottomans didn't follow through and consolidate the Cossack Hetmanate into its domain. Placing it in the infobox also puts WP:UNDUE weight on the multi-vectored foreign policy of the Cossack Hetmanate. Regardless, I would appreciate your input.--BoguSlav 20:47, 18 January 2016 (UTC)