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:::::{{Done}} ] (]) 12:25, 6 June 2016 (UTC) |
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:::::::Thank you, ]!! The page looks much better now without all those irrelevant multilingual entries.] (]) 19:09, 6 June 2016 (UTC) |
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:::::::Thank you, ]!! The page looks much better now without all those irrelevant multilingual entries.] (]) 19:09, 6 June 2016 (UTC) |
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==Recent change to ] section== |
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I see that Shamsi published a 36 - page paper in the Autumn 1984 volume of Islamic Studies. What argument did he use to get round the Prophet's unequivocal statement that the calendar was intercalated? The source for moving the dates from June to May with consequential adjustments elsewhere is Hamidullah. His reconstruction is four times more likely (see 87.81.147.76's post of 18:34, 7 July. |
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:If you look at the dates in ] and compare the Gregorian dates of ''Rosh Hashanah'' in the first 41 years with the same ten years later you will see that in 28 cases the second new year is delayed about twenty days (indicating four intercalary months) and in thirteen cases it is anticipated about ten days (indicating three intercalary months). That means that it is more than twice as likely that Hamidullah's reconstruction is correct compared to Fazlur Rehman Shaikh's. If we exclude Hamidullah's dates we are giving undue weight to Fazlur Rehman Shaikh's. ] (]) 15:31, 21 July 2015 (UTC) |
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::The article already employs Hamidullah's reconstruction where Julian equivalents are given. It is proposed to provide further conversions using this system, which is the most convincing one yet published and can be verified historically and astronomically in a number of cases. ] (]) 08:51, 22 June 2016 (UTC) |
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== The Rfc was trolled == |
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AstroLynx declared that the locations of all the Prophet's sermons were well documented with the exception of the Farewell Sermon, the location of which nobody has any information about. This is obvious nonsense, as a check of the sources quickly confirms: |
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''The Life of Muhammad'', Muhammad Husayn Haykal (2008), Petaling Jaya, Malaysia . |
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p. 520 - On the eighth day of Dhu al - Hijjah, the day of al - Tarwiyah, Muhammad went to Mina and spent the day and night in that locality. There, he performed all the prayers incumbent during that period. The following day, Muhammad recited his dawn prayer and, at sunrise, proceeded on his camel, al - Qaswa', to the Mount of 'Arafat, followed by all the pilgrims. As he ascended the mountain, he was surrounded by thousands of his companions reciting the ''talbiyah'' and the ''takbir'' 3. The Prophet naturally heard their recitations but made no effort either to stop them or to encourage them. He commanded some of his companions to put up a tent for him on the east side of the mountain at a spot called Namirah. When the sun passed the zenith, he ordered his camel to be saddled, and rode on it until he reached the valley of 'Urahah. |
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It was there that he, while sitting on his camel, delivered his sermon in a loud voice to his people. ] (]) 11:10, 22 July 2015 (UTC) |
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The days of the week should just be listed in Arabic (without Urdu translations). As much as I love Urdu, this is an English language article about the Hijri calender, which is in Arabic. Urdu is not even the most common language spoken among Muslims, so better just leave that to the Urdu article (the Persian as well). The Persian days of the week could go in an article describing the Persian calendar system. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.108.75.198 (talk • contribs) 08:59, 3 June 2009
Does anyone have a good explanation as to why this was forbidden by Mohammed? Was it to reduce the importance of the Kalammas?
Why would intercalation be necessary? There doesn't seem to be any particular reason for that.
Intercalation is necessary to keep the months from circling around the year, as they do in the familiar Islamic calendar. With seven intercalated months evenly spaced over 19 years, the synodic lunar and tropical solar cycles line up with just a two-hour discrepancy. Intercalation keeps months and their holidays within particular seasons. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Faris Malik (talk • contribs) 16:07, 11 January 2016
This section has gotten completely out of hand. The names of the days are listed in so many languages, many of which have very little relevance to the Islamic calendar. This section should be limited to the names in Arabic and English only, just like it is for the months. Abjiklɐm (tɐlk) 15:41, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
Done Abjiklɐm (tɐlk) 12:25, 6 June 2016 (UTC)