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:::::{{ping|Chipmunkdavis}}, I'd like to point out that he's doing the same on the ] article as well. Obviously said user doesn't grasp the whole purpose of ] and the fact that Satt2 has absolutely no place here on Misplaced Pages given that he's been ] . He's basically justifying his socking activities with the reinstatement of his edits. I suggest reporting him to ANI if this continues. There might be some ]/] going on here as well. - ] (]) 13:50, 23 June 2016 (UTC) :::::{{ping|Chipmunkdavis}}, I'd like to point out that he's doing the same on the ] article as well. Obviously said user doesn't grasp the whole purpose of ] and the fact that Satt2 has absolutely no place here on Misplaced Pages given that he's been ] . He's basically justifying his socking activities with the reinstatement of his edits. I suggest reporting him to ANI if this continues. There might be some ]/] going on here as well. - ] (]) 13:50, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
::::::{{Ping|LouisAragon}} I really hate such "games" when someone plays such unfair like you. I've told you that you reverted not only his edits but also '''mine''' — '''why?!''' and also you reverted bad described materials which are sometimes unsourced. It will be better to say that you revert his edits because you personally disagree with him than for policies. If so Misplaced Pages should revert automatically all his edits but it doesn't happen, according it has no sense what he contributed but it 100% should be reverted. That is really nonsense good contributions should stay. --<big>]</big>] 13:58, 23 June 2016 (UTC) ::::::{{Ping|LouisAragon}} I really hate such "games" when someone plays such unfair like you. I've told you that you reverted not only his edits but also '''mine''' — '''why?!''' and also you reverted bad described materials which are sometimes unsourced. It will be better to say that you revert his edits because you personally disagree with him than for policies. If so Misplaced Pages should revert automatically all his edits but it doesn't happen, according it has no sense what he contributed but it 100% should be reverted. That is really nonsense good contributions should stay. --<big>]</big>] 13:58, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
I checked everything. Your contributions are maybe ~ 5% of the content you reinstated. The ''utter'' vast majority had been originally added by Damianmx aka Satt 2. Want me to add all the diffs here that prove this? Also, the climatological/topographic maps which I presume you had added are irridentist, as it shows Abhkazia and South Ossetia being a part of Georgia, which they are currently not. - ] (]) 14:02, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

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I have created an RfC following the previous creation of a vote section here, and have copied your initial statement from the previous section into it as it seems applicable. If you wish to amend or remove your statement from this new section, please feel free to do so. I have not copied responses down, so if you wish to copy your response or add a new response to the RfC please do that too. Regards, CMD (talk) 12:36, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

Blocked editors (original discussion)

Blocked editors are not allowed to get around their blocks through sockpuppetry. You say you've read WP:EVADE; if you have you will have noted how minor the example contributions that are considered potentially worth keeping (typo fixes and vandalism reversion) are. If you feel blocked editors should be allowed to contribute to Misplaced Pages, you need to propose a change in policy. CMD (talk) 22:19, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

CMD do not make accents that he is blocked. WP:EVADE says "This does not mean that edits must be reverted just because they were made by a blocked editor obviously helpful changes can be allowed to stand", so what has he made wrong in his contribution in the talk page? He wrote an argument about issue on which most voters agree. You are misunderstanding WP:EVADE. I don't want to start edit war with you so be patient, to solve this I think will be better if we call administrators for detailed explanation of the rule.--g. balaxaZe★ 22:27, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
CMD and please stop reverts (or pushing your edits) before issue is solved! --g. balaxaZe★ 22:28, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
The misunderstading of what it means to be blocked is on your end. You are welcome to call upon other users and administrators regarding this matter. Whether a blocked user's opinion is popular or not is quite irrelevant to whether they're evading a block or not. CMD (talk) 22:31, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
@Chipmunkdavis: I am not talking with my decisions, I am showing to you that it is written in the rule. You have no right to remove their contribution just because they were previously blocked unless you won't explain why his edits were obviously unhelpful or irrelevant.--g. balaxaZe★ 22:33, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
@Chipmunkdavis: WP:EVADE says: but the presumption in ambiguous cases should be to revert. So I am giving you an opportunity to explain to me what you have seen ambiguous in his edit. If not I will revert your remove and in case of another revert by you I will call for Admins reaction.--g. balaxaZe★ 22:44, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
This editor is not just previously blocked, but has been blocked indefinitely from 2010 onwards. As I noted in edit summaries, there is nothing ambiguous in talkpage comments. They are clearly and unambiguously not a change to an article, and were made in violation to a long-standing block. WP:EVADE presumes reversion to be the default response. I encourage you again to reach out for further opinions if you do not understand this. CMD (talk) 22:50, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
@Chipmunkdavis: So according you when a blocked editor's contribution is not in an article you must always revert it? Show me where is this written please.--g. balaxaZe★ 22:56, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
Blocked editors should not be editing, as they are blocked. Please read over Misplaced Pages:Sock puppetry for a full explanation of this. CMD (talk) 23:01, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
As I've stated, you do not understand WP:EVADE, which is written with the presumption of reversion, given the principle that blocked editors are blocked and therefore should not edit. Good faith is not assumed of sockpuppets, as they are evading blocks, and therefore not operating in good faith. CMD (talk) 17:50, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
Okay, I understood that they shouldn't edit (and he is blocked now again) but if he made good edit WP:EVADE clarifies that you shouldn't revert them just because he was blocked previously. I do not know I think will be better to call for an admin to explain who is wrong in this situation. --g. balaxaZe★ 17:54, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
As I have already informed you, the type of edits that EVADE suggests leaving include typos and vandalism reversion. I will also inform you again that the editor under discussion wasn't merely "blocked previously", but was blocked at the time they made those edits. I will further again encourage you to contact others, as you have said you would do already, as it is clear I have not been able to explain the situation to you. CMD (talk) 18:09, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
@Chipmunkdavis:, I'd like to point out that he's doing the same on the Georgia (country) article as well. Obviously said user doesn't grasp the whole purpose of WP:EVADE and the fact that Satt2 has absolutely no place here on Misplaced Pages given that he's been socking since 2010. He's basically justifying his socking activities with the reinstatement of his edits. I suggest reporting him to ANI if this continues. There might be some WP:CANVAS/WP:STEALTH going on here as well. - LouisAragon (talk) 13:50, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
@LouisAragon: I really hate such "games" when someone plays such unfair like you. I've told you that you reverted not only his edits but also mine — why?! and also you reverted bad described materials which are sometimes unsourced. It will be better to say that you revert his edits because you personally disagree with him than for policies. If so Misplaced Pages should revert automatically all his edits but it doesn't happen, according it has no sense what he contributed but it 100% should be reverted. That is really nonsense good contributions should stay. --g. balaxaZe★ 13:58, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

I checked everything. Your contributions are maybe ~ 5% of the content you reinstated. The utter vast majority had been originally added by Damianmx aka Satt 2. Want me to add all the diffs here that prove this? Also, the climatological/topographic maps which I presume you had added are irridentist, as it shows Abhkazia and South Ossetia being a part of Georgia, which they are currently not. - LouisAragon (talk) 14:02, 23 June 2016 (UTC)