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:: Reverted it for you. It needs an admin to do it. It's because the moving user didn't move the talk pages also. '''] ('']'')''' 17:09, 30 August 2006 (UTC) :: Reverted it for you. It needs an admin to do it. It's because the moving user didn't move the talk pages also. '''] ('']'')''' 17:09, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
::: K, you did it while I was messaging. As you can see on Jtdir's talk page, there are other talk pages with the same problem. '''] ('']'')''' 17:11, 30 August 2006 (UTC) ::: K, you did it while I was messaging. As you can see on Jtdir's talk page, there are other talk pages with the same problem. '''] ('']'')''' 17:11, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Hiya,

Sorry I could not finish the fixing. I have had major technical issues.

I don't know whether you'll laugh or cringe at this but '''three''' users voted to rename ] to ]. A lot of users don't think there is a problem with this!!! Another RM is taking place. Feel free to contribute. ]]\<sup><font color="blue">]</font></sup> 02:55, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Revision as of 02:55, 2 September 2006

WOW

you work fast. I was trying to fix an article I'd just created and you beat me to it. --WildKard84 18:23, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Nah, just a little confusion is all. --WildKard84 18:27, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Hey Deb, notifying you of change

You would know me originally as Draig goch20, but I have made a decision for a change. Instead of Draig goch20, I will now be known as Amlder20. Everything relating to me shall be there from now on, at user:Amlder20.

Amlder20 22:51, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

I am using "Amlder20" because last month I turned 20 years of age. Personally I would love to be 20 forever. oh well. Thanks for the Welcome back anyway. God bless.

Amlder20 14:44, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

I am rather pleased to see a comment as nice as that thanks, yeah, to be honest I had deep interests in things since I was a child, I guess I am just one of those kids at school who over did it with the work (though my schoolteachers failed to teach me major mathematics, everhything I know there I did myself). I am constantly reading history books and studying computing books and Welsh is my main favourite.

Amlder20 20:46, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

personal attacks

Where exactly, be specific, where I personally attacked you. You wrongfully deleted my article and you know it. Thanks for making up this personal attack


Hello there, welcome to the 'pedia! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. If you need any questions answered about the project then check out Misplaced Pages:Help or drop me a line. BTW, you have been pretty busy with some British history artilces - Good work! Cheers! --maveric149


See also User talk:Deb/Archive 1, User talk:Deb/Archive 2, User talk:Deb/Archive 3.


This is one of the things you wrote: "He will not admit when asked, but off the record, his biggest mistake is creating the lethal killing machine Chuck Norris." Is that not a personal attack on Chuck Norris?


"If you can understand English and the structure of this sentence, it is Jeffery Korus' biggest mistake, not an attack on Chuck Norris, more of an admittance of something done wrong by Jeffery Korus. It is close to saying Julius Caesars biggest mistake was being killed. The structure of sentences should be paid more attention to I would think before you delete someones article that does not actually violate anything close to a personal attack."

Hmm, let me see - do I understand English? Let's take a look at the above.

1. Yes, I do know that the sentence refers to Jeffery Korus' biggest mistake. My comment wouldn't make sense otherwise. 2. "Admittance" - I think you mean "admission". 3. "Julius Caesars" - There should, of course, be an apostrophe here, viz. "Julius Caesar's" 4. "It is close to saying Julius Caesars biggest mistake was being killed." Actually, it is not at all close to saying that - but we'll let it pass. 5. "Someones" - another missing apostrophe. 6. "article that does not actually violate anything close to a personal attack" - oh dear, we did get confused about the subject of the dependent clause here, didn't we? 7. You can't violate an attack.

The verdict? Yes, I do understand English, and, more to the point, I can speak it correctly. I realise not everyone has been fortunate enough to have the same level of education, and for that reason I do not despise people who cannot speak English well. But I don't rate people who make comments like "TORY CAN KISS MY ___" and try to pass them off as encyclopedia articles. Deb 19:52, 3 May 2006 (UTC)


I don't know the back story here, but you spelt realise with an "s," and you spent too much time looking that stuff up online

WP:LCOTW

Template:CurrentLCOTW

Filiocht 10:37, Nov 10, 2004 (UTC)


wow, you must think highly of yourself, sounds like you are an English teacher...but I think after reading that, you are stuck-up, and I would like to think you don't whip your kids for getting a "B" but then again, you probably whip them and put them in a cage

Seymours

Just FYI (I didn't notice on the first go-round), but Edward Seymour, Baron Beauchamp of Hache actually held the title by courtesy; he and his eldest son Lord Edward Seymour predeceased his father the Earl of Hertford. I've also knocked together a page for Baron Seymour of Trowbridge. Choess 22:48, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

My Dad George Sassoon

Hello to you all who spoke about my Father, I am glad to know he was respected in his own right rather than being Seigfried's son. I have just returned from his memorial service which was attended by a huge congregation of a wonderful mixture of people from all over the world and from all walks of life. The words that were spoken by his friends were fabulous. I kept mine short because I was choking up. Afterwards we all went to the pub and raised our glasses until we were to drunk to raise another. This is what he would have wanted. Thanks. Kendall Sassoon

Survey

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Richard III

As a much more experienced editor who's already involved with the page, would you please take a look at the edits recently made to by 204.9.11.123? Most of it looks really POV and shouldn't be there, but personally I don't want to just revert the lot - for instance, I don't see why the text should read ('alleged half-) brother', either. Thanks awfully. Candle-ends 20:22, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

St Brides Major edit

Hi sorry if I'm messing up your talk page (feel free to delete this if it is in the wrong place). The village of St Brides Major really is spelt without the apostrophe, its like the "Barons Court" tube station in London, over time the apostrophe just dropped off. Please check the village website (linked to in the article) if you need confirmation. BTW how did you change the page title? (just out of interest so I can put it back) Jack-McLangley 18:21, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Google is weird, when you search for "St Bride's Major" it includes all the search results for "St Brides Major" as well, that's why it has more results. Google usually ignores apostraphes and commas in its searches. Good call on the whole St / St. thing, that was just me being a n00b... Jack-McLangley 13:02, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #2

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Hello

I haven't seen you around much, but when I was reading the mailing list posts from 2003 I noticed you were nominated for sysop like a week before me. So hi :) — Ilyanep (Talk) 14:33, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Yep. So how's everything going for you on the 'pedia? — Ilyanep (Talk) 14:37, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Old Skool Esperanzial note

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Misplaced Pages Bot.

Hi, Deb. It's me Daniel5127. I have been using Misplaced Pages since March. 3. 2006. Ahh, I have a some question of Misplaced Pages. As I read all of Misplaced Pages Policy, It's little bit hard to understand because there are many policies more than I know. So, Let me ask you about Wikipedian Bot. So, What is the job for Wikipedian Bot? I personally think that Wikipedian Bots know all of languages(English, Italian, Spanish, Korean, Chinese, Portugese, French etc..), and cleaning some messy things. Does Wikipedian bots care about vandalism? I have seen some article was bad articles, but Wikipedian bots doesn't care about it. That's why I want to know more about Wikipedian bots. Ok? Please, Explain to me Why does wikipedian bots ID end with BOt. Cheers!!!! Daniel5127, 01:21, 30 April 2006(UTC)

The "Canadian Royal Family"

Any opinions on whether there exists such a thing as a Canadian Royal Family? See Talk:Court Circular Astrotrain 15:43, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Miskin

Sorry but I don't know what you're talking about. My name comes from Prince Myshkin. Miskin 20:38, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Category:Novel sequences

Hello. I am soliciting your input in the current discussion on Category:Novel sequences, since you intially created the category. MakeRocketGoNow 00:09, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Edward Sutton, 5th Baron Dudley

I have edited your article on Edward Sutton, 5th Baron Dudley. In doing so, I have removed some text that you wrote (placing it instead on the discussion page of that article). I do not want this to be regarded as vandalism, but what you wrote is not the accepted view. If Ann Sutton whom you mention was indeed the only child of the marriage the title Lord Dduley would have descended to her and her issue. Feel free to restore this text, incorporating it alongside what I ahve written, but if you do so, please make sure you cite your sources. If this is from (or derived from) parish registers, I would have thought it would be sufficient to refer to the parish and date in the text. If it is from a published work, please add that to the 'further reading'. If Lord Dudley is indeed your ancestor, you have some more intersting ones than I do! Peterkingiron 23:01, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

I made the change, as indicated above, but left the text deleted on a discussion page. It may be right; it may not be - I do not know. I thought you were its author and therefore told you. I am happy to leave the matter as it stands. Peterkingiron 16:55, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

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20:29, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Hey!!

Deb, I believe you wrongfully deleted Wikkidevil(my)'s new, easy-on-the-eyes article on amphibians. Before you delete it, please tell me why. Or at least read my page, which you can find at User:WordPainter.

Marcus Duvall

I was in the middle of the article. Now I have to do it all over again.--SGCommand (talkcontribs) 11:56, 10 May 2006 (UTC) I was in a hurry --SGCommand (talkcontribs) 11:59, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Pretenders Ernst August

Please see Misplaced Pages talk:Naming conventions (names and titles)#Ernest Aug. and constibute to the discussion there. I look forward to people assessing UE:should English be used in all these cases and how; would any sort of numeral be acceptable; what are the correct ordinals anyway; and Is there any other sustainable way to disambiguate these systematically. Shilkanni 11:02, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Years in Wales

Quit (band)

I would really like to know some more information about this band. They seem really cool! Are they on myspace. Are there any links you can provide? - user:xsxex

Women's suffrage: Grand merging and reforms!

Hello there, please discuss and contribute your opinion at Women's suffrage#Grand merging and reforms!. Best, __ Maysara 20:29, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

consort naming

You possibly want to contribute your opinion, as things related to e.g Joan of Kent (which you moved) have come up in discussion of naming conventions regarding royal titles. Shilkanni 11:10, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Augusta of Saxe-Gotha

Deb;

With all due respect, I was not in doubt at all. The current name, which you moved it to, is against current Misplaced Pages naming conventions. Until they are amended in any way, the article is properly titled Princess Augusta of Saxe-Gotha. Please consider moving it back rather than making me go through the process when the guaranteed outcome (as shown with other non-consorts) will be Princess Augusta of Saxe-Gotha. Respectfully, Charles 19:45, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Please note: Duchess Cecilie of Mecklenburg-Schwerin, which was moved and then moved back because it conforms to the naming conventions. Other than historically signifigant individuals greatly known by any other form, "Name" of "Place/Designaiton" is strictly for sovereigns and their consorts, as outlined in the naming conventions. I foresaw no controversy because such controversy is for discussion at the naming conventions. I was only applying the standing rule. I will gladly change the links to Princess Augusta of Saxe-Gotha. Charles 19:54, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
You cannot cite all other Princesses of Wales as reason for your way of naming Augusta. Of the Princesses of Wales, all that were queens are named appropriately. Joan of Kent is so named because of mediaeval irregularites and Diana, Princess of Wales is so named because it was her surname. Camilla is yet to be queen. Augusta never became queen nor was she the ruler of Saxe-Gotha. Her name goes against naming conventions for her era, when titles were laid down (in her case, a princess with the addition title duchess in Saxony). Charles 20:04, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
There is absolutely no need for hostility. I think you need to re-read the naming conventions. I have brought the issue up with Jtdirl, who has stepped in in the past without prompting to enforce the naming conventions. A RM in this case is needlessly long, may result in needless arguing but would result in a move. Given that, I will look elsewhere to have the guidelines enforced. Charles 20:11, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
Jtdirl's post was in reference to moves against convention. Charles 23:07, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
Hostility isn't fitting behaviour for one who wants to be taken seriously. Yes, I have been warned for moves in the past by Jtdirl. Those moves were moves not covered by guidelines at all and in my early days at Misplaced Pages. I've learned quickly and now am sought out for advice and knowledge on royals here, even by Jtdirl. When you've run out of things to stay, refrain from posting on my page about irrelevant fragments of the past. It's just not nice. Charles 23:14, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
I am growing weary of blame-shifting and logging on to see attempted "last words". If you need to get after people for moving royals around, you might want to check out Shilkanni's (no offense to him/her) move history, which contains moves that have not been discussed and that really don't make sense. If you can do that, I will be more forgiving. Charles 20:10, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
GEE, THANKS, CHARLES!!!

Stop fighting, you two

Hey, you two. Cool it. You are two of the best contributors in this area on WP. I admire the work of both of you. Deb, Charles is in now way another arrigo, but a serious hardworking wikipedian. And Charles, Deb is one of best contributors on this issue. You two seem to have misinterpreted each other. You may disagree on this issue but overall you are both on the same side as regards quality and accuracy on royal pages. I can vouch for the intergrity of each for the other. So please stop fighting. We need the good guys'n'gals to work together. FearÉIREANN\ 21:02, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Hugh Price Hughes

I see the reformatting from a timeline structure into a paragraph, but I disgaree with it. I feel a timeline is often, nay usually, far clearer than a paragraph, especially if, as one hopes, additional items of merit are introduced by other editors. I'm asking if you would reconsider the chmange of format. Fiddle Faddle

I do say clearly on my talk page in the recognised manner with a banner at the head that I will respond here. So I am copying your reply and replying to it here. Talk spread across mutliple talk pages is unreadable.
I have read the Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style (biographies) and cannot see the guidance you speak of. Of course this may be an oversight on my part. I am very happy to be pointed to the correct place. But I see currently nothing that says that it was in any way incorrectly formatted. So please show me where I should be looking. If it is not there, may I suggest again, that clarity is best served by a timeline, and ask you to reconsider your edit. Fiddle Faddle 21:50, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
Habits can be changed and should be on request, please.
There is a great deal of difference between a timeline structure and bullet points. You are arguing now for something different. Since the item you refer to is not present in the guidlelines you speak of first, I ask you again to reconsider your edit. I have looked at biography articles with and without a timeline structure. Since we editl, ideally, for both posterity and clarity, i suggest we always work in that direction, especially with clarity. Creating a timeline for a biography is both logical and clear. Without it there is the gravce danger fo confusion by a well meaning editor that is hard to put right. Fiddle Faddle 22:11, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
I have no idea why you do not accede to the simple and standard request that I make on my talk page, Nor why when I bring the thread here that you edit them out. But it is your talk page. Regrettably this makes the talk impossible for people to follow, which is, presumably, why Help:Talk page#How to keep a two-way conversation readable was created.
I have read all the versions of Hugh Price Hughes back to the initial creation. Every article has the dates in the first paragraph. So, regrettably, you are incorrect in your assertion that they were not present. Your arguments about bullet points are not relevant since they are not, per se, bullet points, but are, as I have said before, a timeline. Your pointing me to guidelines that do not contain the data that you state is present was not wholly helpful.
I will look at your exhortations both to edit the article and to pose the timeline thoughts in the guidelines, and I thank you for those suggestions. Fiddle Faddle 22:44, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
It is not going to turn into an edit war. Why should it? The article in question is a stub. As such it will be interesting to watch how it develops. There is not a great deal of meat in the section which will naturally contain paragraphs of prose. That's ok for now, though I would expect the future will mean that other editors take that section and shake it. The Chronology section is not what Misplaced Pages means when it describes a bullet. It has the format of a bulleted list, yes, but the elements are not bullets per se. Instead they are spine points on the time line of Mr Hughes's life. Thus i believe firmly it is both within the guidelines and potentially an excellent article. What will be wrong is if future editors who flesh this stub out only add dates with no commentary. Under those circumstances one would desire more meat on the bones.
Your removal of duplicate links I am grateful for. I failed to spot them all. The article overall, albeit as a stub, is probably better from our joint attentions. Unless we can either of us improve the content "paragraphicly" let's leave it alone and watch it develop.
Fiddle Faddle 13:03, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Huw Garmon

Hi Deb. I reverted your revert at the above page as Richard Hughes (historian) has already been established from the disambig page Richard Hughes. Hope that's okay - Ali-oops 12:12, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

How Are You?

Greetings, Deb!
I've been away for about six weeks. I am pleased to see some of my articles have been patrolled in my absence (e.g. Katie Holmes). Haven't heard from you in a while. How are you doing? PedanticallySpeaking 16:49, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Wow on your vacation. How far a trip would the abbey be from you? Did you go via a Channel Tunnel? PedanticallySpeaking 14:56, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Glad you had a nice trip. For some time I have been working on revisions to the Bricker Amendment article. I finally posted it and have a PR at Misplaced Pages:Peer review/Bricker Amendment. I'd welcome your comments. I know you won't like all those references, but I'm hoping to get it as an FA and those voters want lots of footnotes. PedanticallySpeaking 16:18, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

A short Esperanzial update

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Elizabeth Harwood piece

Thank you for setting my stuff in the right order. I shall try to remember the proper layout in future. Tim riley 20:47, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Category:Welsh-speaking people debate

In response to your post on my talk page, I think that this category should not be deleted, and would be prepared to join the debate, if I you could provide a link, i'm not having much luck finding it. As Cymraeg is a minority language, It's important that all famous speakers should be grouped together in a category for reference.GarethRhys 12:30, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

See also my posting on User talk:Chicheley. -- Picapica 19:24, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Please don't assume that people who disagree with you are ignorant

I am familiar with the minority language issue and it has been addressed by other users who have voted delete. Compelling reasons have been given for the deletion of all the categories. Category:Welsh language activists would arguably be acceptable, but a language category is POV as it asserts that speaking the Welsh language is a defining characteristic of every such person, and is by definition more important to each person placed in it than speaking English - something which will be wrong in some cases. It is a safe assumption that Welsh language advocates will add such a category at every opportunity, but other people are likely to be too indifferent or compromised by political correctness to take anyone out, leading to overuse of a category which is essentially propagandistic. Chicheley 10:31, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Lloyd-Jones

Please see Talk:Martyn Lloyd-Jones#Presbyterian?. --Flex 13:06, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Please don't assume that people who disagree with you are ignorant (2)

This user repeated the above discourtesy after being asked to me more careful, and should therefore be assumed to believe it to be acceptable conduct. Chicheley 14:49, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Betacommand/disscusion/Welsh

Welsh Cat

I see your point upon further research, I have created a centerialzed discussion and have tried to get it undeleted if you can give me a list of the pages I will restore the catagory. and keep it restored untill the decision is reached. Betacommand 20:12, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

RfA thanks

Samsara (talkcontribs) 22:40, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

"Welsh nationalism" fork

Hi Deb

I think you have misunderstood what User:Normalmouth has done here. He has not changed the name of the existing article, Welsh self-government, which is still there. Instead he has created a parallel article under the title Welsh nationalism in violation of Misplaced Pages:Content forking. Rhion 17:51, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Hello Deb

I may need your help. I am trying to ensure that the article Welsh self-government is correctly titled as Welsh nationalism, as it was until recently when it was changed (see the history of the page). I am not attempting to 'fork' an article, so if I have done it wrong would you be able to assist me so that this violation of the rules does not take place.

I feel strongly that Welsh self-government does not accurately reflect what is an article that is and always was about the history and ideology of the Welsh nationalist movement. Thanks Normalmouth 17:12, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Plot & Character driven

Hi Deb, yes that's fine, just couldn't find anywhere on Wiki that seemed to highlight these two concepts, regards Martyn Smith 21:54, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Mea culpa

Mea culpa. Mea maxima culpa. I just noticed your comments on my page now. I guess they coincided with other edits by others and I didn't realise that two comments, not one, had been added. Anyway, having reviewed the evidence I think that vote was entirely botched. It would never have been allowed to stand. You cannot have a situation where the decision to be taken is changing with the list of things to be deleted growing mid-vote. That is fundamentally wrong.

I have proposed that the entire list be undeleted and re-voted on, and that minority languages, and majority languages, be voted on separately, rather than bunged in together. You can participate in the discussion at the WP:DRV page. I have also told the user who closed the vote that IMHO he made a seriously wrong judgment call. He should have aborted the vote and called a new one.

Again, apologies for not spotting your comments earlier. As I have said, I agree that reaching conclusions on the basis of decisions when most of those voting have already voted before things are added to the deletion list, is fundamentally wrong. Slán FearÉIREANN\ 00:40, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Bricker Amendment

You were kind enough to comment on my peer review request for my article on the Bricker Amendment. I have now proposed it as a featured article and would appreciate your vote here. PedanticallySpeaking 17:14, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

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Requested move

Please see Talk:Chester. And for that matter, Talk:Newport and Talk:Plymouth. Evertype 15:31, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Traci Dinwiddie

Thanks for catching the typo. That's a big DERRRR for me ;-)

Biography Newsletter August 2006

The August 2006 issue of the Biography WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. plange 01:36, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

List of Uzbek proverbs

In fact, I did mean to delete the contents. The three proverbs listed seem to me jokes rather than proverbs, and we can see from that positive contribution from the writer equals to less than 0: see and , and . If you think it should be kept, that's fine, but I thought list of proverbs should be put in Wikiquote? Anyway, thanks. Aranherunar 01:18, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

August Esperanza Newsletter

Program Feature: To-Do List
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What's New?
In order to help proposed programs become specific enough to make into full-fledged programs, the In development section of the proposals page has been created. Proposals that are promising, but need to be organized in more detail are listed here. Please take a look at what is there, and help the proposals turn into programs.
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The last AC meeting (full log)
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Disambiguation

Hi Deb, I have restored the {{otherpeople|Sian James}} tag to Sian James (novelist), because without it there is no link back to the disambiguation page.

The reason that the otherpeople tag points to Sian James (disambiguation) is as a form of futureproofing: that way, if the dab page needs to be moved, it can be moved to xx (disambiguation) without having to rewrite the links elsewhere. If you look carefully at Sian James (disambiguation), you'll see that it contains a special tag for this purpose.

Please don't remove the disambiguation. It helps the reader, and makes wikipedia much easier to maintain. --BrownHairedGirl 17:14, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Further reply on my talk. --BrownHairedGirl 20:01, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

As a longtime contributor in the area, you may be interested in a debate going on at Misplaced Pages:Templates for deletion/Log/2006 August 21, where a user proposed the mass deletion of the English dynastic templates. (BTW another user is now deleting all images from the templates. It is ridiculous.) FearÉIREANN\ 18:40, 22 August 2006 (UTC)


Mary I of Scotland & Wives of French Monarchs

I see where some were listed as "Queen Consorts of France" (no link) but I followed the majority that were linked to the Kings. However, I actually think perhaps using the caption and making an article with a list of Queen Consorts of France is the best and clearest thing to do. I'm easy, so let me know. C. C. Perez 16:37, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Adminship

Your confidence is appreciated. I didn't realize the thing had closed; I suppose I will have to go through and thank everybody. Altogether it does seem an awful lot of pother and name-calling for what really was an offer to clean up WP:RM, which still needs it. Septentrionalis 19:53, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Links for Malcolm/Máel Coluim

It's really not worth changing Máel Coluim I of Scotland (et al) to Malcolm I of Scotland. I can do it with AWB tomorrow when I have a minute. It's very much quicker and easier. Angus McLellan (Talk) 21:29, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Could you move Talk:Domnall III of Scotland to Talk:Donald III of Scotland. It seems that the target needs to be deleted before this can happen. Thanks. Angus McLellan (Talk) 16:18, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Deb, you need to revert your last move and then move Talk:Domnall III of Scotland to Talk:Donald III of Scotland. There are more details of the problem at User_talk:Jtdirl#Gaelic_names_for_Scottish_kings.21. Calgacus (ΚΑΛΓΑΚΟΣ) 17:05, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
Reverted it for you. It needs an admin to do it. It's because the moving user didn't move the talk pages also. Calgacus (ΚΑΛΓΑΚΟΣ) 17:09, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
K, you did it while I was messaging. As you can see on Jtdir's talk page, there are other talk pages with the same problem. Calgacus (ΚΑΛΓΑΚΟΣ) 17:11, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Hiya,

Sorry I could not finish the fixing. I have had major technical issues.

I don't know whether you'll laugh or cringe at this but three users voted to rename Prime Minister to Prime minister. A lot of users don't think there is a problem with this!!! Another RM is taking place. Feel free to contribute. FearÉIREANN\ 02:55, 2 September 2006 (UTC)