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Hi MarnetteD, I have seen your edits in the Elsa Lanchester page. Considering myself reasonably well read about Laughton and Lanchester, I agree with you that there is no evidence that an early abortion prior to her marriage to Charles Laughton, was the cause of her not being able to have children (thus I leave your edit as it is). This is what Maureen O'Hara reports as having been told to her as Charles, but, as you point, not necessarily what actually happened (though, of course, there is no way to disclose it). I strongly suspect that by telling O'hara so, Laughton was actually covering her wife's neglect to have children in a cavalier way. Elsa Lanchester, in her own 1983 biography, never says that she didn't have children because she was phisically unable to do so, rather, she states, that she wasn't keen on the idea of being a mother. Elsa herself reports two abortions: one, long before meeting Charles Laughton, and another while already engaged in a fully-fledged relationship with him (they were living together) BUT not yet married to each other. She explains that she had the abortion because she thought that the relationship wasn't known to the general public (so becoming a single mother could damage her public image and her career). It is not reported what Laughton thought of her decision] 10:49, 31 August 2006 (UTC) | Hi MarnetteD, I have seen your edits in the Elsa Lanchester page. Considering myself reasonably well read about Laughton and Lanchester, I agree with you that there is no evidence that an early abortion prior to her marriage to Charles Laughton, was the cause of her not being able to have children (thus I leave your edit as it is). This is what Maureen O'Hara reports as having been told to her as Charles, but, as you point, not necessarily what actually happened (though, of course, there is no way to disclose it). I strongly suspect that by telling O'hara so, Laughton was actually covering her wife's neglect to have children in a cavalier way. Elsa Lanchester, in her own 1983 biography, never says that she didn't have children because she was phisically unable to do so, rather, she states, that she wasn't keen on the idea of being a mother. Elsa herself reports two abortions: one, long before meeting Charles Laughton, and another while already engaged in a fully-fledged relationship with him (they were living together) BUT not yet married to each other. She explains that she had the abortion because she thought that the relationship wasn't known to the general public (so becoming a single mother could damage her public image and her career). It is not reported what Laughton thought of her decision] 10:49, 31 August 2006 (UTC) | ||
== Thanks for your comments, too ;) == | |||
Hi Marnette, Thanks for your comments. You're right that one must always be cautious about memoirs. The trouble with Laughton is that he never wrote an autobiography, so stories about him are strongly based in his widow's memoirs. I am of the opinion that Elsa is rather honest about Cl and herself on the whole, but there are some points where I'd like to have an alternative point of view: some negative comments about Laughton stem from her account, if I have no alternative~but to take the bad news like a big girl, ha, ha. But often there are other accounts which help balance the image of Charles, often in a positive direction. Still, some false myths remain: I have written about them in an article I made for the Catalan Misplaced Pages (which you are welcome to visit :D ). | |||
BTW, if you're interested in Laughton and Lanchester, you might like to visit this message board: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/laughtonlanchester/ | |||
I have a blog myself devoted to Laughton: http://rootingforlaughton.blogspot.com/ | |||
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Mifune
Hi Marnette! I replied at my TALK page. Quill 21:49, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
As Did I
I also responded on Quill's page, as well as the Mifune article discussion. Cheers! --Venerable Bede 02:57, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Marnette
Marnette, I responded to you on my talk page. Cheers! --Venerable Bede 23:32, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Cemetery
I have the misfortune/talent of being able to look at a full page of print and seeing typos and spelling errors instantly. So no criticism is implied, though I insist on "cemetery" and the appropriate use of "stationary" and "stationery"<g>. It's nice you're looking after Oscar. - Nunh-huh 17:43, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
The Snowman
No, that's fine. Yes, we did see both versions. The first version in 1982 (Channel 4's first Christmas, for which the movie was commissioned), and the Bowie version probably came along the next year or the one after that. I thought they were probably sexing it up a bit for the overseas market, by adding a well known Brit (Bowie was a huge star in those days, so he was probably a good choice). --Tony Sidaway|Talk 20:58, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
I', sure I've only ever seen the Bowie version on C4... Robsteadman 10:26, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
Oscar Wilde
Do you know how many times Oscar came to the US? Was it just the once when he was supposed to have told the customs, "I have nothing to declare but my genius", a wonderful story, I just wish it was true. Dabbler 18:41, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
You're welcome...
...regarding the Doctor Who updates - though I found Khaosworks beat me to updating the table for the US/Canada release date! --JohnDBuell 00:05, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
TARDIS key
Thanks for the kind words. Well, as I qualified in my edit summary, "if I recall correctly", i.e. I wasn't quite sure. I'd swear I saw Davison having it in his pockets once. I'll revert it and do some checking, and if I come up with an example I'll swap it back. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 15:43, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
Doctor Who and Laurie Anderson
Thanks for the comments. I'm glad you're enjoying the new series. Being in Canada I was able to see it last spring and let's just say it gets better with every episode. The first few episodes up to tonight's "World War III" fall under the "getting the groove back" category -- good episodes all, but the show is still looking for its new voice. It finds it next week in "Dalek". Re: Laurie Anderson, yeah I've been a fan of her's for going on 20 years now. I was able to see her perform "End of the Moon" last year and she was terrific. 23skidoo 22:45, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
South Park City
In your edit today of the Smug Alert! article, thanks for clarifying that South Park City is only the name of the museum, not the town from which the museum's buildings were taken. I had added the South Park City, Fairplay, and South Park basin info to refine a vague statement that someone had added to say that the episode reminds viewers that South Park is SW of Denver…I just wanted to make sure it was clear that the town was fictional but is named for real-life locations.—mjb 18:51, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
M. Hulot
No worries, no harm done. Just discovered that I dont have the NFT DVD that has great notes for M. Hulots Holiday, only for Mon Oncle (which has great notes, like the fact that someone liked the modern house so much they had it built). Will have to get it... Justinc 11:00, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
Recent edits
There have recently been a whole series of edits to the plot section - most by Robekyr - which are adding info from the book and not the movie (Floyd's having an hour layover for example). I do not wish to start an edit war because I know that he or she is working hard and that these probably mean a lot to him or her. Perhaps if any wikiadministrators encounter this they can start the process to reach a consensus about what to do about this. I feel that they are detracting from this article but that is just me and others may feel differently.User:MarnetteD | Talk 00:35, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
Wrong
- Dialouge in the movie. Miller tells Floyd that his flight "leaves in about an hour" and "as a matter of fact I've reserved a table for you in the Earthlight Room." The entrance to the Earthlight Room with the adjoining picturephone booths are clearly visible in the scene in the film. The Earthlight Room sign shows it is a Howard Johnson's restaurant. I AM NOT REFERENCING CLARKE'S NOVELIZATION.
The quotes from the book pertain to the 2 main climaxes of the movie the acension of Moon-Watcher and Bowman in the end. I felt that these 2 quotes -- both intentionally alike -- wold be appropriate.
BTW: I am a guy. ;-)
-- User:Robeykr 01:03, 22 April 2006 (UTC) Talk
Movie title italicization
No problem. Thanks for the info. Nakadai 02:41, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
Christopher Lee
No problem. I wasn't the one who added that bit to begin with, but I'd read about the incident in his autobiography so I was pretty sure it would be on IMDB somewhere. Still tricky to find, with the number of films he's made; I ended up searching on the title instead. --Calair 09:29, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
No problem!
It was no problem at all — we're in the process of discussing how best to organize the Doctor Who articles, and so there's bound to be some irregularities while we figure things out. Gnome away, please! —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 22:19, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
Michael Palin
Regarding your revert of the Michael Palin article. I know I wasn't finished yet, but instead of just reverting everything, couldn't you fix some of the faults you saw, or mention them to me? Concerning trivia, it's better to incorporate trivia (or remove it all the way). See also a proposed guideline Misplaced Pages:Avoid trivia sections in articles. Cheers, Garion96 (talk) 17:19, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
- No need to apologise. It wasn't that bad. :) To respond to your points.
- I just wanted to flesh out that section. The list just seemed so minimal considering what a big part of his career it is.
- It's not official policy (yet) though. The downside of those sections that they react as a magnet for really pointless stuff.
- I will look for a credible source on that. I agree that the Sahara was a nicer example. I just happened to find the Peru link and used that.
For now I just re incorporated the trivia. Do you have any idea on how to improve the travel section? Garion96 (talk) 20:24, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Craig-Morgan
My attitude would be that since we have no way of telling whether this guy is Craig-Morgan or not, he needs to supply references for his claims. Granted the IMDB might be wrong, but if they are someone needs to find another source that contradicts them. I have seen this happen before, with people claiming they are the subject of an article and then demanding that it be changed, taken down, whatever. I would say all this to the buy claiming to be Craig-Morgan, and then if he's still playing up refer to an admin for mediation.
With regards to the Manual of Style, this is a separate issue. Have you tried simply directing the editor to the MoS? I'd try this first. Good luck! --Jim (Talk) 11:30, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
- I'm guessing that he is who he says he is--the changes he's making are really quite minor anyway. I suggest that you do what you've done. Accept his edits, but reshape them to conform to style issues. (He is not likely to become a contributer to other articles, so I doubt if there's much point in investing time in showing him how it'd done.) I've left him a message asking if he can point us towards some sources, but I'm guessing that what we'd really want is going to be pretty hard to come by--something that shows that IMDb has made a mess out this article, as they often do. Bucketsofg✐ 14:23, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
- Nice one on the research front. I'm not sure you've made a mountain out of a molehill here: I'm always suspicious of anyone who claims they are the object of an article and doesn't give evidence. His edits weren't exactly done in the most civil manner, anyway! Hopefully he will listen to your suggestions now. --Jim (Talk) 20:57, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
A Brilliant Move
Hi Jmabel. Your move of the popular references for Oscar Wilde to its own page was a great idea. Having read some of the concerns expressed on the discussion page about that section I had been meaning to leave a note suggesting just what you did, but just hadn't gotten around to it. One other question, do you think that it is time to archive the discussion page? It is fairly long and I have thought about attempting it, but I have never created an archive page before and am afraid that I would botch it up. It is just a suggestion and if you don't think it is needed yet that is fine too. Once again GOOD JOB!MarnetteD | Talk 06:22, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks. I'm all for archiving the talk page. I suggest only archiving sections that haven't had any activity in a month or so. Less likely to get anyone's back up. - Jmabel | Talk 06:29, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
Red Rum
Sam knows, when Gene gets it in their sweepstake, that it's going to win the race (it's a very famous horse here in the UK, and the only one I think to have won the Grand National three times) and tries to swap his sweepstake draw with Gene's. Nearer the end of the episode — when they're standing outside the commercial freezer they've locked the suspect in, as I recall — Gene asks Sam how he knew the horse was going to win. Angmering 19:53, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
- I agree it's a very small reference, but even though I didn't add it myself originally I think it deserves to be kept in, because Red Rum winning the Grand National is such a well-known event in the UK. Angmering 22:04, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
Graham Faulkner
Thanks, MarnetteD. Much appreciated. I've copied your post onto Talk:Brother Sun, Sister Moon, for general information. :--) JackofOz 07:40, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
Your notes on Santa Fe Opera list
Thanks for your comments, which are helpful. I'll research the Strauss issue and add some clarification there.
I didn't add all the year-by-year titles myself, but I'll check on those links. Thanks for your help there.
As for the wiki links throughout, what you state seems to make sense since someone m,ay come to the list to seewhat was on in (say) 1979 and then want to follow to details of the operas performed that year.
BTW: while the opera company's site doesn't do a year-by-year listing of operas performed, the 50th Anniv. book, Phillip Huscher's The Santa Fe Opera: an American Pioneer does that and the entries of the "List" which I added came from that source.
Vivaverdi 14:25, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
Stanley Kubrick - Barry Lyndon - Prado
A recent modification has reverted your change. Do you have a source that we can use to put this matter to rest? Jayvdb 10:40, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
Elsa Lanchester
Hi MarnetteD, I have seen your edits in the Elsa Lanchester page. Considering myself reasonably well read about Laughton and Lanchester, I agree with you that there is no evidence that an early abortion prior to her marriage to Charles Laughton, was the cause of her not being able to have children (thus I leave your edit as it is). This is what Maureen O'Hara reports as having been told to her as Charles, but, as you point, not necessarily what actually happened (though, of course, there is no way to disclose it). I strongly suspect that by telling O'hara so, Laughton was actually covering her wife's neglect to have children in a cavalier way. Elsa Lanchester, in her own 1983 biography, never says that she didn't have children because she was phisically unable to do so, rather, she states, that she wasn't keen on the idea of being a mother. Elsa herself reports two abortions: one, long before meeting Charles Laughton, and another while already engaged in a fully-fledged relationship with him (they were living together) BUT not yet married to each other. She explains that she had the abortion because she thought that the relationship wasn't known to the general public (so becoming a single mother could damage her public image and her career). It is not reported what Laughton thought of her decisionGloria Porta 10:49, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your comments, too ;)
Hi Marnette, Thanks for your comments. You're right that one must always be cautious about memoirs. The trouble with Laughton is that he never wrote an autobiography, so stories about him are strongly based in his widow's memoirs. I am of the opinion that Elsa is rather honest about Cl and herself on the whole, but there are some points where I'd like to have an alternative point of view: some negative comments about Laughton stem from her account, if I have no alternative~but to take the bad news like a big girl, ha, ha. But often there are other accounts which help balance the image of Charles, often in a positive direction. Still, some false myths remain: I have written about them in an article I made for the Catalan Misplaced Pages (which you are welcome to visit :D ).
BTW, if you're interested in Laughton and Lanchester, you might like to visit this message board: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/laughtonlanchester/
I have a blog myself devoted to Laughton: http://rootingforlaughton.blogspot.com/ Gloria Porta 16:54, 3 September 2006 (UTC)