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| :{{not done|Against Article}} I believe that the principle of impartiality should be followed to keep the Misplaced Pages values. Recent editions of ] (]) has caused many problems in the page related to the main swimmer, Lochte. Just see his argument to justify the insertion and removal of texts. Misplaced Pages can not, and will not, be auxiliary column of USA Today. I don't see the biggest reasons for this article exist, since even today (24/08), one of the swimmers involved in the case admitted, through his lawyer, that the whole story of the assault was a lie. Jimmy Feigen says that omitted the Brazilian police "essential details" because "I was trying to protect my teammates, and I apologize for that" Feigen said. (Font: ; ; ; ). --] (]) 22:09, 24 August 2016 (UTC) | :{{not done|Against Article}} I believe that the principle of impartiality should be followed to keep the Misplaced Pages values. Recent editions of ] (]) has caused many problems in the page related to the main swimmer, Lochte. Just see his argument to justify the insertion and removal of texts. Misplaced Pages can not, and will not, be auxiliary column of USA Today. I don't see the biggest reasons for this article exist, since even today (24/08), one of the swimmers involved in the case admitted, through his lawyer, that the whole story of the assault was a lie. Jimmy Feigen says that omitted the Brazilian police "essential details" because "I was trying to protect my teammates, and I apologize for that" Feigen said. (Font: ; ; ; ). --] (]) 22:09, 24 August 2016 (UTC) | ||
| Sorry liar, but Feigen also claimed in the article that “We pulled over to a gas station to use the bathroom but the door was locked.” ] (]) 22:27, 24 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
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Name of article
I"m not sure of the most appropriate name for this article, currently "Lochtegate." The sections within the four respective swimmer articles seem to be in constant flux and dispute. Let's discuss. UW Dawgs (talk) 15:18, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
- I am not completely opposed to Lochtegate, but I think it it a little bit inflammatory. Perhaps Ryan Lochte robbery allegations during the 2016 Olympics??? Open to other ideas as well... Not sure about "allegations " versus "accusations." Peace, MPS (talk) 16:35, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
- User:FuriouslySerene suggested 2016 alleged robbery of U.S. Swimmers in Rio de Janeiro on the AfD page. That is another option. Peace, MPS (talk) 18:59, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
- A title with the term "scandal" could be appropriate. Note that Lochtegate was used in several news sources and throughout social media to refer to this incident. —SomeoneNamedDerek (talk) 03:33, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
Let Us be Grown-ups and Not Erase the Truth
Telling lies about what was said in the articles which sources is not all mature or okay. The truth may hurt, but you got to suck it up.JoetheMoe25 (talk) 21:01, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
- Not sure what you are suggesting here, sir. I am just trying to write a good encyclopedia article. Assume Good Faith on behalf of your fellow wikipedia editors. Cheers, MPS (talk) 21:58, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
USA Today investigation
As there's been one article detailing the USA Today investigation, an entire long section dedicated to that seems to be too much, at least at the moment. I agree that there should be some mention of it, but in its current form, as written by JoetheMoe25 (talk), there's so much original research and half-truth in it that it's not usable. I'm removing it, and per WP:CYCLE, we should discuss here what an acceptable sentence or two summarizing it should be. ArchieOof (talk) 21:18, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
- I'm afraid you are lying and don't want to accept the truth. CBS News and Jimmy Feigan have also backed the story that the swimmers didn't enter the bathroom. Be a grown-up for a change. JoetheMoe25 (talk) 21:25, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
- I would respectfully suggest to ArchieOof that there is a significant difference between the two accounts of the night-time arrest, that is highlighted by the USAToday investigation. On the one hand, Brazilian police suggested that the US swimmers drunkenly broke down a bathroom door and trashed it... On the other hand, a reputable news organization is saying the there was no damage to the door, there was no damage to the bathroom, and there is no evidence that the video or the police could produce that point to a vandalism crime being committed (beyond a ripped poster and urinating in the bushes). If indeed bathroom was locked, then there is an interesting tension between the two sides of the story. For this reason, I would suggest keeping the as much of the USA Today report as contradicts police "evidence." Peace, MPS (talk) 21:53, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
Against Article I believe that the principle of impartiality should be followed to keep the Misplaced Pages values. Recent editions of JoetheMoe25 (talk) has caused many problems in the page related to the main swimmer, Lochte. Just see his argument to justify the insertion and removal of texts. Misplaced Pages can not, and will not, be auxiliary column of USA Today. I don't see the biggest reasons for this article exist, since even today (24/08), one of the swimmers involved in the case admitted, through his lawyer, that the whole story of the assault was a lie. Jimmy Feigen says that omitted the Brazilian police "essential details" because "I was trying to protect my teammates, and I apologize for that" Feigen said. (Font: G1/Reuters; UOL; iG/Estadão; Extra). --LeoLavish (talk) 22:09, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
Sorry liar, but Feigen also claimed in the article that “We pulled over to a gas station to use the bathroom but the door was locked.” JoetheMoe25 (talk) 22:27, 24 August 2016 (UTC)