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			== Maxine Waters quote ==

			An editor has added a quote from Maxine Waters in the legacy section. I have to ask: is this appropriate? Her views have already been captured in that section and she is hardly objective (for a variety of reasons including the fact she wrote the foreword to Dark Alliance).

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More on suicide

How to describe Webb's suicide is the most common source of changes to the article, almost all of them attempting to impose editors' belief that Webb did not commit suicide by removing the word suicide or putting it in scare quotes. Without any discussion on the talk page or sources in the article, this type of NPOV editing should just be reverted. Rgr09 (talk) 03:50, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Unfortunately, the case of Gary Webb could just as easily be described as "Cause and Effect" as it could be described as "Flawless CIA Technique." We will probably never know what really happened, but it's difficult to believe that his death was suicide, to me. Certainly, a life that seemed to spiral downward after he implicated the CIA, ending in suicide, just seems a little bit too convenient. On the other hand, surely the CIA would have made every effort to make the death look like a suicide... so why the double-tap? That would certainly lead to questions as to the nature of the death. Perhaps a Third Party with ulterior motives? This is one of the most perplexing issues that I have ever seen. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.15.154.136 (talk) 06:06, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

We do know what "really happened". Webb's actions prior to his death indicate that he was suicidal. His first shot was non-fatal; the second nicked an artery. Multiple gunshot suicide is already linked in the article. - Location (talk) 16:51, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Suicide

Everyone knows he was killed by the CIA — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:540:C000:7B59:25E8:63CA:E31D:E195 (talk) 11:49, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Many people would not agree: his wife, his children, his biographer, and most of his friends have said they think he killed himself. To put your claim into the article, you need to come up with a reliable source (WP:RS will describe what that is). Without RS, the article will not incorporate your claim, unless/until Misplaced Pages abandons this policy. Rgr09 (talk) 16:28, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

What Rgr09 said^^^... An anonymous posting on a Misplaced Pages page is insufficient referencing for something everyone supposedly knows... Shearonink (talk) 17:17, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Many things that 'everyone knows' aren't reference in what Misplaced Pages determines as "Reliable Sources", which is generally the mainstream media. If the New York Times had published an article claiming he was killed by the CIA then it would be included in wWikipedia. But we all know that won't happen don't we? 81.151.27.22 (talk) 01:51, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

Most people know that 9/11 is an inside job, but mainstream media wouldn't admit it for obvious reasons. So it will always remain a conspiracy theory... Gary Webb's suicide is the "offcial" version of his death. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.137.19.201 (talk) 03:02, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

You changed the article to say that Webb was shot twice in the back of the head. Who says so? How do you know this? The autopsy, as reported in multiple newspaper stories cited in the article, found that Webb placed a gun next to his right ear, and fired twice. He was not shot in the back of the head. Rgr09 (talk) 13:11, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

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Maxine Waters quote

An editor has added a quote from Maxine Waters in the legacy section. I have to ask: is this appropriate? Her views have already been captured in that section and she is hardly objective (for a variety of reasons including the fact she wrote the foreword to Dark Alliance).

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