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Thank you for contacting me.

(a) I am being unjustly accused of "sockpuppetry". I use a computer that is shared by many people, a computer lab that has hundreds of users, a computer network with many people using it, and wifi shared by scores, maybe hundreds of others. So we all have the same IP address! So we are all the same person? I tracked down one of the people, a student, and she and I pleaded our case to one of the Wikipedians who are giving me a hard time, acting like a bully, or an Inquisitor, (b) My colleagues and I have noticed that female mathematicians' bios are shorter, or deleted, or scheduled for deletion, while men who have similar achievements and whose bios are not better, are judged by a different standard. (c) Many editors on Misplaced Pages have been harassing me, and posting nonsense on the deletion sites for female mathematicians/statisticians. Elaine Louise Zanutto's bio was deleted rapidly, then re-instated b/c of protests, Marion Cohen's bio had the same fate, I think, a fight is raging over a bio of Roberta Wenocur; Fan Chung is accomplished, but her entry primarily links her to her husband; anyone who votes "keep" or "strong keep" is ignored on the Roberta Wenocur bio, and others, too, about female mathematicians. (d) What is the problem with the article on Daniel H. Wagner, Associates? It seems unreasonable. (e) So many Wiki-editors are unkind to me, bully me, and act as if it is the Inquisition. (f) Compare for example the bios of Dennis DeTurck or Richard M. Dudley or Herbert Wilf to those of Elaine Louise Zanutto, Fan Chung, Roberta Wenocur, Elaine Louise Zanutto, Marion Cohen. Why delete the women's bios and keep the men's? I claim: keep and improve them all.

I thought it would be fun to contribute, and I thought it was a good deed. But is is very unpleasant. MathStatWoman 20:51, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Response to your contacting me

Thank you for contacting me again. While reading an article on the Riemann zeta function on Misplaced Pages, I saw your comment. I had planned not to add anything, not even a comment on a discussion page, to Misplaced Pages again, since I found it to have become a frustrating and unpleasant experience. I do not like the way I am listed as a "known sockpuppet". The term "sockpuppet" is insulting since it implies that I am being underhanded and sneaky by using aliases. I have not done so, and I do not appreciate the nomenclature applied to me with no proof; the reason they have no proof is because it is not true. Moreover, I have never used inappropriate language (e.g. cursing) or had any ill intention; it is possible that I expessed a POV, but only on discussion pages, never in articles; my editing of articles was to add or correct the entry; more often than not, my edits were deleted although I provided citations. Also, I find it concerning that certain articles are deleted, while others with equal value are maintained; this will not produce a good encyclopedia; this will produce an enclyclopedia far from complete and yet inconsistent. Ironically, deleting some articles and keeping others, deciding who is a notable person and who is not (although they have comparable achievements) is subjective, and violates NPOV -- I repeat, this is ironic. You claim to "know what I mean". Might you please explain this statement? Are you an administrator? I too wish Misplaced Pages could be a peaceful, noncontentious, fair, just community, and I appreciate your attempts at establishing this. When I was very new to Misplaced Pages, I accidentally commented to someone on a User Page. Instead of telling me, kindly, how to use a discussion page, I received a sarcastic comment of "Thanks a lot for posting your message on my User Page!"; when I commented politely to someone to sign with tildas, this editor also replied, unkindly, "I have edited on Misplaced Pages for a long time! Don't tell me to use tildas! I know how!" and this was followed by a wordy, insulting paragraph. I wish it were a more pleasant experience to edit Misplaced Pages. I do not even remember the articles that I wanted to see: some were about Elaine Louise Zanutto, a statistician whose achievements are considerable, R. S. Wenocur (Roberta Wenocur, but I since discovered that she prefers to use initials to hide her gender so that it is not an issue), a mathematician who did some important work in various fields, Daniel H. Wagner, Associates, one of the very few consulting companies with a long history of using mathematics for practical purposes (for example, they located an H-bomb before it exploded, searched for oil and found it, found the pieces of Challenger, all using mathematics), Marion Cohen, whose article survived two attempts at deletion. I wanted to improve the articles on Fan Chung (but I am afraid to edit anymore), on empirical processes, on Julia Robinson; I wanted to write some more biographies of mathematicians, but I do not find the process of voting for deletion, or "speedy deletion" pleasant. Sorry for the long message. Again, thanks for your efforts. If I have posted this in the wrong place, I am sorry.MathStatWoman 19:04, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:SCAG

I've deleted Misplaced Pages:SCAG. Please quit trying to create watchdog agencies for admins and participate in the creation of an encyclopedia. User:Zoe| 21:20, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

This is the Operation Watchdog page. We are working on the bad apple rating for administrators. To further that goal we are compiling a list of administrators who misuse their power. is not "collecting statistics". Go write an article. User:Zoe| 21:31, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

What sort of statistics are you trying to collect? -- Samir धर्म 01:20, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm still a little puzzled. Which specific statistics are you collecting (number of articles? deleted articles? article edits ... those are already collected by the software I think??) -- Samir धर्म 02:25, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Okay. If this is statistical, I would list in the deletion review the specific statistics that you would like to compile, the reasons why you are compiling them, and how you intend to compile them (specific searches, pages to be reviewed). You have to give specifics:

• i.e. I intend to identify the number of cardiology articles that do not have PMID references in order to better the evidence based cardiology content on Misplaced Pages. This will be achieved by reviewing CAT:Cardiology.
• OR I intend to determine the number of specialist administrators in order to see how we can recruit those with a specialist knowledge base to administer content issues on Misplaced Pages. I will do this by reviewing CAT:Administrators and tallying the specialty skills identified by administrators.

The big problem is that it looks like SCAG is just a vigilante group to hunt out administrators viewed as roguish by SCAG. That's not really fair either, in my opinion -- Samir धर्म 02:59, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

I need an advocate and help with mediation

- - Greetings, - - I need an advocate who will walk me through the mediation process. - - I am trying to get the following added to the Many Worlds Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics. Max Tegark is a renown physicist and a PhD profressor of cosmology at MIT. He agrees with my addition. - - I am having problem with an editor by the name of Lethe who follows me around Misplaced Pages reverting all my edits without commentary. - - I have tried reasoning with him on discussion pages, but he refuses to read what I write. - - Advantages of MWI - - If Hugh Everett's theory was just another interpretation of Quantum Mechanics it would have no followers, especially since it proposes the existence of countless other universes which theoretically can never be observed. Because it is not falsifiable it seemingly violates Popper's criteria for a good scientific theory. The reason it has so many adherents is because it offers numerous advantages over the Copenhagen Interpretation, among which are the following: - - 1. Quantum mechanics becomes a deterministic theory making it more compatible with the theory of relativity and all other physics theory to date which are all deterministic. The Copenhagen Interpretation introduced indeterminacy and randomness into science. Aside from the Copenhagen Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics there is no scientific theory that includes indeterminacy or randomness. Einstein particularly objected to this aspect of the Copenhagen Interpretation. In response to it, he said, "God does not play dice with the universe." - - 2. It eliminates the "measurement problem." - - 3. It eliminates Von Neumann's "boundary problem": where to draw the line between the micro world where quantum mechanics applies, and the macro world where it does not. Shortly before his death in 1953, Albert Einstein wrote: "Like the moon has a definite position whether or not we look at the moon, the same must also hold for the atomic objects, as there is no sharp distinction possible between these and macroscopic objects." - - 4. It eliminates the special place for an observer and human consciousness. - - 5. It restores objective reality of the universe between measurements. Shortly before his death, Albert Einstein also wrote: "Observation cannot CREATE an element of reality like a position, there must be something contained in the complete description of physical reality which corresponds to the possibility of observing a position, already before the observation has been actually made." - - 6. The wave-particle duality paradox evaporates. It simply and naturally explains the double-slit experiment. Richard Feynman said, " has in it the heart of quantum mechanics. In reality it contains the only mystery." David Deutcsh wrote: ". . . the argument for the many worlds was won with the double-slit experiment." - - 7. Schrodinger's Cat paradox evaporates. - - It seems Einstein's main objections with quantum mechanics had more to do with the Copenhagen Interpretation, than with quantum mechanics itself. While MWI does not quite generate the kinds of worlds necessary to justify the anthropic principle, it is a step on the way to Stephen Hawking's No Boundary Proposal and Max Tegmark's All Universe Hypothesis which do justify the anthropic principle. - - Michael D. Wolok 18:39, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Mediation Committee

Hi, you seem to be a very keen Wikipedian, however you don't want to rush things. I remember you stuck youself on RfA essentially with no edits (I think you had under a hundred at the time, with the current norm for promotion being a minimum of 2000 edits). With respect to the MedCom you need to have a full understanding of all Wikipedias policies and guidelines, and I simply don't think you do, at the moment. That's not to say in a few months time after you've been editing more etc. that you'll not, but currently you simply don't have the experience. I would advise doing as many cases as you can on the MedCab and then once you've got some of those under your belt think about reapplying for the MedCom. If you ever need any help, then please let me know.--Wisden17 10:35, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Introduction to cases

Hello there. When you announce that you are mediating a medcab case, it may be best to briefly explain where the issue will be handled. I looked over two cases that you are mediating and in the mediator response section you simply said 'I will be the mediator'. Just so things are clear, it may be good to explain, for example, that 'I am the mediator and I am contacting the requester through e-mail', for example, just so at a glance people can see the progress of mediation. Thanks. Cowman109 15:24, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Removed speedy tag

I removed a {{db-nonsense}} tag (placed by you) on Oldham Advertiser; the article does not appear to meet any reasonable definition of "nonsense". The periodical in question may not be notable; but db-nonsense isn't appropriate in this case. --EngineerScotty 21:46, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Comments

Part of the concern is that you have very little experience working with Misplaced Pages. It takes months and months of reading and watching the community's work, to understand all the guidelines and procedures that we follow around here.

Here are a few specific quibbles:

You have added yourself to a few "participants" lists, without actually being an active member of those groups. This gives me the impression that you are young, and trying to "join" things in order to fit in. (Nothing wrong with joining (or being young!), but you should only list yourself as a member of groups you are actually actively participating in...)

You have yet to master the basics of wikiediting. You have repeatedly left a leading-space before your additions, which is wikicode for a box:

like this.

You might like to bookmark Misplaced Pages:Quick guide.

Odd edits like this reinforce the idea that you are just beginning here. Which is fine! But trying to become an admin or join important groups like the Mediation Committee, is basically impossible, until you know your way around the 100's of pages of instructional material that are here, and are well known to the other active members of those communities.

Finally, You don't need to copy&paste all your edit summaries to your user page. Anyone can view them (more easily, and with their links intact) at Special:Contributions/Geo.plrd (from the "toolbox" in the lefthand sitenav column). Also, the number-of-edits that people are mentioning above is just a generalization. Editcountitis is dangerous! We value quality over quantity.

I hope all that helps and doesnt overwhelm. Thanks :) -Quiddity 22:32, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Statistics

Do you have any objections to me starting a group to calculate statistics

What are you planning on doing with those statistics, and why do you need a group to do it? User:Zoe| 23:27, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

I need a group because this would be a massive undertaking, involving quite a few volunteers. The statistics would be used to make a better encyclopedia and would verify official statistics.(Example:Mediation success rate could be used to estimate how many cases go to Arbcom). I will have oversight boards so there will be no grand high poobah. Also I would like to put the past behind us.

I would need to know what purpose the statistics would be used for before I could say whether I would agree. I would also need to know why you feel the need for these statistics. And why you can't just get on with the business of writing articles. I have no interest in maintaining a hostile relationship, but you don't seem to actually be interested in creating an encyclopedia, but instead in creating an adversarial relationship with admins. User:Zoe| 23:43, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

The statistics (for mediation program) would be used to help the Arbcom predict how many cases they will receive.

Why not wait until the arbcom expresses a need for such information? User:Zoe| 01:52, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

What is a "specialist admin"? User:Zoe| 01:59, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

What experience/training do you have in the collection/calculation/analysis of statistics? -Quiddity 20:33, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Do you know what I do in real life. I have some experience creating statistics.Geo. 20:38, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

(Just fyi, it's easier for everyone to follow a thread if we keep it in one place :)

I was asking for specific details. No, I don't know what you do in real life; how would I?

And, as Zoe asked above, "Why not wait until the arbcom expresses a need for such information?". The more you explain, the better an understanding we all have of your intentions. ie Do you wish to write a journalistic or scholarly paper, and are doing research? If so, we can possibly point you to more helpful places and people. If you're just making statistics on personal whim, your efforts are going to be less-than productive because of the above mentioned lack of experience around here. Mistaken assumptions and such.

One of the smaller factors of the immediate deletion of those projects, was your applying titles to members of the groups. "Chancellor" "Officer" etc. There are no such hierarchies here. Everything is as equalitarian as possible. Therefore any similar title is just a meaningless (or even misleading) honourific.

It's a lot more rewarding to write/edit articles, and that's the most valuable contribution anyone can make! (seriously :) -Quiddity 20:50, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

As you say here,Be Bold. This group will have no honorifics, unless you consider Coordinator and Maintainer a honorific. I am collecting data to determine where more resources are needed. Geo. 21:48, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

That didnt really answer any of the above questions. (please keep replies here. thanks.) -Quiddity 22:05, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

The purpose is to see where Misplaced Pages needs resources, to ensure that resources go to where they are needed. The specialist project will show where Misplaced Pages admins specialize in the least, which will show where more focus is needed.Geo. 22:59, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

That's just reiterating what you already said. (Is English perhaps your second language? There seems to be some communication misunderstandings..) 3 specific questions below:

1. What is your education/training in statistical analysis?
2. How do you hope to cover such an all-encompassing topic when you aren't intimately familiar with the site?
3. Do you know about all the current programs/projects/groups that are coordinating where resources are needed? eg Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles and Misplaced Pages:Maintenance and Category:Misplaced Pages backlog

The thing is, we already know where "more focus is needed". What we need, is more people to do the needed work, not to create new lists! Does that all make sense?

I'll suggest again, that your time would be MUCH more profitably spent, helping us improve articles which you have knowledge in. Maybe Statistics, or something related, if that is your profession.

Thanks. -Quiddity 23:29, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Here are the answers.

1. I have a math major.
2. One of the purposes of a group, aside from the efficiency aspect, would be experienced volunteers.
3. The projects you are talking about do not show the mediation success rate, or where admins specialize on the least,both of which are important.

And I do edit articles from time to time. Geo. 21:29, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

A short Esperanzial update

As you may have gathered, discussions have been raging for about a week on the Esperanza talk page as to the future direction of Esperanza. Some of these are still ongoing and warrant more input (such as the idea to scrap the members list altogether). However, some decisions have been made and the charter has hence been amended. See what happened. Basically, the whole leadership has had a reshuffle, so please review the new, improved charter.

As a result, we are electing 4 people this month. They will replace JoanneB and Pschemp and form a new tranche A, serving until December. Elections will begin on 2006-07-02 and last until 2006-07-09. If you wish to run for a Council position, add your name to the list before 2006-07-02. For more details, see Misplaced Pages:Esperanza/June 2006 elections.

Thanks and kind, Esperanzial regards, —Celestianpower 16:00, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Mediation Cabal concerns

It has come to my attention that Misplaced Pages:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-06-19 Banu Nadir and Misplaced Pages:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-06-18 Wahl, cases you have stated you were mediating, have not yet recieved any contact from you. I have flagged the cases as in need of mediation again because of this. Please remember to keep track of cases you agree to mediate. I would recommend that you focus maybe on one simply case at a time until you get the hang of things, and never, ever, ever be afraid to ask for help or another mediator to tagteam the case. We've been having a discussion in Misplaced Pages talk:Mediation Cabal about being more open to other mediator assistance, so I hope you'll try that. Also, please see the updated Misplaced Pages:Mediation Cabal/Suggestions for mediators. Thanks. Cowman109 20:42, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Mediation case: Misplaced Pages:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-06-19 Banu Nadir

I'd just like to make sure we're on the same page: When the mediation is finished, we're limited to requesting that Pschemp remove the protection. As none of us are admins or higher in the food chain, and MedCab is completely unoffocial, we have no authority to simply state "we'll have protection removed". Also, I'd already released Pschemp from mediation, so please allow her to continue her regular duties until such time as the case is finished and protection actually needs to be lifted. Thanks! ~Kylu (u|t) 02:59, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Good luck

Hello. I am just posting to say good luck to you in the upcoming Esperanza elections, and I shall enjoy campaigning against you - you are a worthy opponent, as it were! All the best, and may the best man/woman/thing win! Kingfisherswift 16:55, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Signature

Misplaced Pages:Esperanza/So you've joined Esperanza... shows you how to put the green 'e' in your signature. -- Natalya 03:25, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Bae Yong Joon

Ever since User:Samir (The Scope) unprotected the page, there has been a resurgence of vandalism on this page . However, prior to unprotection, User:Fabshelly has restarted its edits of violating Misplaced Pages's laws, despite being warned on Talk:Bae Yong Joon about it, and said that I'm vandalisng the page instead. However, his actions are contradicting to the policies and guidelines of Misplaced Pages:Content disclaimer, Misplaced Pages:NPOV and etc stated on the talk page.

As evidenced, he has violated the laws of Misplaced Pages:Content disclaimer, a subsection of Misplaced Pages:What Misplaced Pages is not, which is an official policy, ignorance of Misplaced Pages:Reliable sources, Misplaced Pages:Biographies of living persons and Misplaced Pages:Neutral_point_of_view. Furthermore, despite being informed, and going against the laws of wikipedia is considered Misplaced Pages:Vandalism.

Misplaced Pages's guidelines, especially Official policies, are something which all users must abide with in order to be in wikipedia.

How can we, correct User:Fabshelly's conception of wikipedia? Do we have to resort to banning him from Misplaced Pages, like User:Paektu? As an anti-vandal, I truly need your guidance, since I'm very poor at dealing such matters. I don't think semi-protecting the article can sufficiently protect against these parties, especially Fabshelly who is a registered user. Anyway, I have posted a defence statement against Fabshelly's allegations against me on Talk:Bae Yong Joon. Mr Tan 12:16, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Since it's Fabshelly who wanted large scale meditation by starting the page, Misplaced Pages:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-06-25 Bae Yong Joon, let's see what he has to say before I proceed. Otherwise we all discuss on Talk:Bae Yong Joon in the meantime. Mr Tan 06:39, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Deleted Article - sure it's not Medcab?

Ok so what the user wanted was beyond the scope of Medcab but I think this guy was a littl confused and missapppropriated. I mena he claimed to have been verbally abused by Icekarma (not that thats possible ahem, I think we know he's one that doesn't mince his words LOL). Personally I would have kept the case opened and tried to get IK to try and explain why the page was deleted and how that process works. Or of course done the explaining yourself. Just a suggestion :D I left a note on his talk page offering to help further. -- Tmorton166 (Errant Emote) 19:51, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

ISG

That's for you to decide. If you can remove the beaurocracy, and make the mission achievable, and not get the whole thing deleted, power to you. I really don't know what can be done, honestly.--digital_me 00:45, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Well, you've got the steering council, which, by its nature is exclusive to users, and it appears that this SC sets the whole direction of ISG. If you could possibly even complete your mission, not many wikipedians would become involved, because Misplaced Pages is based on consensus.--digital_me 01:03, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

More than just the bureaucracy, I just don't understand what this is. As I mentioned above, please list statistics of what you are compiling, how you intend to compile them, and the reasons why you are compiling them. As is, I don't really see the point of this WikiProject. Sorry -- Samir धर्म 03:34, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Military history WikiProject Newsletter - Issue IV - June 2006

The June 2006 issue of the Military history WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. Kirill Lokshin 05:55, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Your methods of dispute resolution

You have a very unique method of dealing with mediation. Out of curiosity, how does making each party write their own version of the article eliminate POV? I don't see how trying to merge multiple articles written by one person will make the article better... isn't Misplaced Pages all about everyone editing and creating the final article? I just don't understand, so an explaination would be helpful. Thanks. --The Prophet Wizard of the Crayon Cake 18:14, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

User:Justforasecond

Please don't suggest to litigants that they contact a steward. Stewards have no power to "punish" admins. Any action against admins will have to be done by the Arbcom. User:Zoe| 15:15, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Military history Coordinator Elections!

The Military history WikiProject coordinator selection process is starting. We are looking to elect seven coordinators to serve for the next six months; if you are interested in running, please sign up here by August 11!

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Overseer

Hi, I am very glad you are interested! But you should really check with Childzy who sort of took the advantage of "first come first served." Besides, I am a bit worried about your edit count... A lot of those mottos refer to really nerdy WP stuff you might not be familiar with... But there is nothing some more experience could not fix ;) So anyway, talk with Childzy and see if you can work out something. Renata 20:44, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for asking, would love to have you helping out. I go on holiday for 2 weeks on around the 4th august so it would be good to have two of us working on it to cover for such holdays. The first things we need to do is get this project some more publicity around wikipedia, i think the mottos are great!! Then we need to go through the list of suggestions and add them to the approved list. We can both add to the schedule when it is needed, i think it would be best to keep a maybe 2 weeks ahead. If you have any questions about anything just talk on my talk page. Childzy 12:42, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Rob's remark is removed

And I won't stand for your trick campaign to return an ionsult direct at me for his cover up of doing nothing! KittenKlub 23:40, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Jeanpaul Ferro

Um, yes, that's why I referred him to WP:AUTO. User:Zoe| 01:35, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Motto

I have gone ahead and changed some things, i liked your idea of the "under review" so i changed things about with that to make voting similar to Misplaced Pages:Featured picture candidates, now users just list the mottos on that page and we all vote. As for the old New proposals page, I think we should just go through and Approve and Reject them ourselves. Childzy 11:47, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Just one more thing, when adding to the schedule you dont need to bold the motto, some how the template does it itself. Childzy 11:54, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Motto of the Day

Greetings. I would like to help you administrate the Motto of the Day, if possible. Your one true god is David P. A. Hunter, esq. III 12:48, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Tell him yeah, i wont be back online for about a 2 - 3 weeks now so keep everything running well and speak to you later. Childzy 20:17, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Guardian Society

I have deleted WP:Guardian. WP: is a pseudo namespace which is reserved for redirects into the Misplaced Pages: namespace. -- RHaworth 16:51, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Motto of the Day (reprise)

"Thanks for the request. I am fine with it. Check with Childzy though. Also there are quite a few mottos on nominations that need transcribing. If you could help with that please do. Geo. 19:28, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

As Childzy will be out of town, I will deputize you as a Temp. Overseer until he gets back. At that time I will write a review and we will determine permanent status. Geo. 21:16, 1 August 2006 (UTC)"

Pardon my stupidity, good sir, but what exactly do you mean by transcribing? Your one true god is David P. A. Hunter, esq. III 09:19, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

• Do you mean for me to sort out the noms into reject or accepted pages after 7 days since the motto was proposed, as instructed at the top of the noms page? Your one true god is David P. A. Hunter, esq. III 09:24, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Your user page

Hi. Your user page contains userboxes stating that you are an administrator on Wikiquote and Commons. From the lists there, this doesnt appear to be true (perhaps it is under a different name?). Please remove/change the userboxes, as appropriate.

Also, your user page at meta had an incorrect link to here, which I've fixed: meta:User:Geo.plrd

Thanks. --Quiddity 19:53, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

No problem. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful with the mottos issue. --Quiddity 20:50, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Motto. Again. Again

I'm at school at the moment; I shall attempt to do so during classes or during free time. Your one true god is David P. A. Hunter, esq. III 22:36, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Motto, once more...

See my changes to the noms, archive1, rejected and approved pages. Is that what you wanted done (I have approved/rejected based on consensus and moved them into relevant pages. Those I have moved I put in the "Recently closed" section of the noms page as well as in the archive and the appropriate post-judgement page)? Your one true god is David P. A. Hunter, esq. III 13:41, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

• Well? Is that what you wanted? Your one true god is David P. A. Hunter, esq. III _{I forbade it! Join Stargate Wars!} Hail OneCone International! 06:13, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

• • Sorry, I just couldn't tell whether or not you had replied to my first questioning. I shall continue my work. Your one true god is David P. A. Hunter, esq. III _{I forbade it! Join Stargate Wars!} Hail OneCone International! 04:27, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Thank you!

We've awarded you this PARC research star in recognition for your contribution to research about conflict in Misplaced Pages. Thank you for your help!!! --Parc wiki researcher 21:08, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Military history WikiProject coordinator election - vote phase!

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August Esperanza Newsletter

Another heading intended to be titled "Motto"

Hello. I have come up with five mottos on Misplaced Pages:Motto of the day/Nominations. Would you please review them and share your opinion? --Gray Porpoise 01:13, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Admin Academy

I don't think you've been here long enough to create an Admin Academy. User:Zoe|(talk) 04:31, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Nobody's going to do a CheckUser on Admin candidates. You have to say who you think a proposed CheckUser done on is a sock puppet of, so they can compare. A person with CheckUser capability is not just going to troll through all edits to find some that match. User:Zoe|(talk) 04:40, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Motto

It is an honour to be recognised as an overseer as something! Thanks. Also, I hope it's alright if I updated the schedule as I have. David P. A. Hunter, esq. III _Pell-Mell 11:19, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

help please

Hello -i have been editing an article about a flamenco guitarist,that has some errors, these are discussed on the talk page of the article.

http://en.wikipedia.org/Juan_Mart%C3%ADn

I was wondering if you could help mediate in this,as my citable material,from a world famous flamencologist is being ignored as citable evidence,in fact i have been accused of making the information up. I dont want to start a flame war,and am stepping back from this so ask for your help in this. Thankyou.Ukbn2 19:45, 22 August 2006 (UTC)Ukbn2 19:47, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi, is this official mediation or the cabal? My only involvement was in the last day, following a request by Ukbn2. For the avoidance of doubt, the issue certainly isn't references. Addhoc 20:23, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

HELP!!!!

Hi -i am editing the Juan Martin article with guitar technique information,and user addhoc is deleting all my writing. Please,what do i do about this?Ukbn2 13:52, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

this is developing into a flame war - addhoc is simply editing out anything i contribute now,whilst not contributing any facts or info into the article itself -this is trolling ,please help!!Ukbn2 13:52, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Given that I have signed up to 1RR, that is somewhat unlikely. Addhoc 15:55, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Hello sax - i am again being what can only described as stalked by user addhoc on the juan martin page - his latest example for instance:- "Your comment that "zapateado is explained with the link" shows that you haven't grasped that all material has to be verifiable. In this case you are required to provide a reputable source that links "zapateado" to Juan Martín. Before making any further edits, I would suggest you read the most important procedures for this article, which are: WP:BLP, WP:V, WP:NPOV and WP:OR. Also you could have a look at WP:CITE and WP:RS. Thanks, Addhoc 14:48, 25 August 2006 (UTC)"

The link explains that zapateado means "tap, or heel tapping" it is a sound most of hear when listening to flamenco, and is on most flamenco albums. It is also on Juan martins more recent albums . This is getting tiresome,is there anyway i can stop this guy trolling my edits,as this is getting ridiculous. Is there anyway i can report this user? Thanks Ukbn2 15:00, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Essentially, I was following the advice in WP:BLP, which is "be very firm about high quality references". However, I am not an expert about this subject and consequently, my involvement is probably more useful elsewhere. I am pleased that UKBN2 has admitted his earlier edits were libellous. Addhoc 17:31, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Autoblock

What is the IP listed? -- Samir धर्म 02:04, 23 August 2006 (UTC) It is a block for Lordhighdumbass by Shanel 65.147.74.24 02:16, 23 August 2006 (UTC) My IP has changed and i can edit. Geo. 02:18, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

RfA

Thanks, but I have to decline. I do not yet feel that I have addressed concerns in my last RfA. Computerjoe's talk 21:29, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

See Misplaced Pages:Requests for adminship/Geo.plrd 2 Best regards, Lordhighdumbass 23:29, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Your RfA

Hi Geo, I am just letting you know that I have closed your request for adminship as it was getting a little out of hand (it was 0/9/3 in the end). As all those who commented were making pretty much the same point there seemed little point in the process continuing into a pile on, which would have benefited nobody. Before you run again in the future, I would strongly urge you to consider the suggestions made by those who commented. Admin standards are very high at the moment, you will probably need at least a couple of thousand more edits before you are seriously considered by those who vote at WP:RFA. If you have any questions, or ever require any help, please feel free to ask me. I hope to see you around, yours Rje 02:48, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

I hope you're not too disappointed!

Hi there, Geo! I hope you're not too disappointed after your RFA. Your eagerness to help out with the backlogs that administrators must deal with on a daily basis is admirable, but usually, candidates don't succeed unless they have at least 2,000 edits, a good chunk of those in the mainspace (articles). You are a great user, and in 4-6 months, I imagine you'll be nominated for adminship and you will succeed. RFA is a gruelling process (your record is very carefully scrutinized by a large amount of editors) but I hope your first attempt at adminship hasn't been too hard on you. Your contributions and your willingness to help out as an administrator are both admirable. I hope to see you around!! If you ever need somebody to talk to, feel free to drop me a line on my talk page or e-mail me. Happy editing, and enjoy the cookies! :) Srose (talk) 14:32, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Well, my friend, please do not feel discouraged by this. I also noticed that you have only about 720 edits on Misplaced Pages. Try to improve the quality of your edits here and understand the policies of this project. If it makes you feel any better, just take a look at my past RfAs! (First RfA, second RfA and third RfA). I hope this puts things in perspective. I also admire your sense of optimism here as well! I suggest that you have at least 3 000 quality edits first before considering for adminship. Don't give up hope and be strong! --Siva1979 20:57, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

And let me know next time you are up for Admin, I'll probably vote for you. User:Pedant 10:32, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

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