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Assertiveness

As a communication style and strategy, Assertiveness is distinguished from Aggression and Passivity. How people deal with personal boundaries; their own and those of other people, helps to distinguish between these three concepts. Passive communicators do not defend their own personal boundaries and thus allow aggressive people to harm or otherwise unduly influence them. They are also typically not likely to risk trying to influence anyone else. Aggressive people do not respect the personal boundaries of others and thus are liable to harm others while trying to influence them. A person communicates assertively by not being afraid to speak his or her mind or trying to influence others, but doing so in a way that respects the personal boundaries of others. They are also willing to defend themselves against aggressive incursions.

History?

There needs to be an article about the development of self-esteem as an educational concept, with a timeline

Apologies

Recently something was put on the main Self esteem page saying that wikipedia destroys self esteem (or something close to that). As it turns out, someone in my school saw me type my password and recently confessed to doing this. He also took part in something on a wikipedia page called Frankenbush. I changed my password and this will not happen again.

Confused about why my edit was reverted

This article is clearly a mess but I got here by searching for terms used in another article (I guess it is a hang out for arrogant people). The heading of that article (Ideal mental health) said it needed more links from other articles, I placed a sentence in this article which linked to that article (and linked the term I used to this article) why is that reverted? For some reason I cannot log in.

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self esteem is basically something that is like a hurdle to success. its literal meaning is ego, self confidence. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 59.177.22.177 (talk • contribs) who replaced the page with this comment, 13:54 14 August 2007 (UTC).edit

Proposed merge with Self-confidence

This article deals also with the concept of self-esteem; Misplaced Pages has a much better one abut it. Λeternus 10:17, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

Support. I think these are just synonyms for the same concept. FuriouslySerene (talk) 21:08, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
Oppose. From a psychological theory standpoint, self-confidence and self-esteem are related but distinct constructs. Self-esteem is an appraisal of self-worth based in the cognitive and affective, while self-confidence refers to the trust in one's aptitude for a particular interaction or task. The current self-confidence page is in need of a clean up to remove the unclear distinction between similar concepts (i.e. self-esteem) it carries. Anoesis23 (talk) 00:02, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

Citation? Most of the citations on the self-confidence page actually refer to self-esteem. Are there studies that have shown demonstrable differences in the two concepts? I'm not aware of any.FuriouslySerene (talk) 17:42, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

I agree with Anoesis23's analysis, its the fault of the self-confidence page that it gets confused with self-esteem.--Penbat (talk) 18:27, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

Oppose - per User:Anoesis23 --DynaGirl (talk) 11:49, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
Oppose - per User:Anoesis23 --Penbat (talk) 18:23, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

Best way to distinguish self-esteem and self-confidence?

In light of literature I have read in a Social Psychology graduate seminar, I think it might be helpful in the introduction to the entry for self-confidence to distinguish it from self-esteem, and perhaps other older concepts like self-efficacy and self-enhancement. What do you think about that? Part of the problem seems to be that many psychologists mention the self-esteem and self-confidence or as synonyms without distinguishing the two. I am actually not working on this entry but rather self-confidence entry, though you might want to do the same here. I think the citation by Robert Reasoner (footnote 83) and Baumeister and Tierney (footnote 90) and Yagual (footnote 60) helps a lot in clarifying the distinction and thought I could summarize their points together...or maybe I just emphasize what is distinct about self-confidence in the introductory paragraph? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jacob.richard.thomas (talk • contribs) 15:30, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

Vandalism efforts triggered by 8 year experienced user Jim1138

Kindly check vandalism efforts done to the page by User:Jim1138. This editor triggers this sort of antics to block the article even if the contributions are valid per rules and regulations of wikipedia. Others beware of this editor's possible activities in psychiatry (just to be safe), psychology and sociology pages because they have claimed to do similar activities across related articles as attempted here using wrong interpretation of policies and wrong contexts. Beginner's beware because this is an experienced user who knows the system and can bend the rules to target anyone or any article you might be doing so don't engage them directly it is best to WP:DENY or go through WP:ANI, if time allows - I don't know whether this will work but this is as per received instructions.

Jim1138 initiated vandalism's without any cause and misleading summaries

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rm rv sock from Kerala, India see: Talk:Social work#IP-hopper and User:Jim1138/IP Hopper from Kerala per wp:deny Jim1138 (talk) 23:13, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

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