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| I don't think I have the words to reflect the disappointment I felt on reading this . I disagree with those above as to who was doing the baiting. I have always respected your work on this project, but baiting a sanctioned editor into potentially breaching the terms of their ArbCom restrictions is beyond the pail, and it's what I see in that thread. I gather there is history between you and TRM that would provide context to this rather uncharacteristic behavior from you, but that only reinforces my concern as to why you got into an argument with TRM on ] in the first place. Might I suggest if you have trouble holding your cool in discussions with TRM that you simply avoid him? Others can respond to his posts on ]. <strong style="font-variant:small-caps">] ]</strong> 12:45, 6 March 2017 (UTC) | I don't think I have the words to reflect the disappointment I felt on reading this . I disagree with those above as to who was doing the baiting. I have always respected your work on this project, but baiting a sanctioned editor into potentially breaching the terms of their ArbCom restrictions is beyond the pail, and it's what I see in that thread. I gather there is history between you and TRM that would provide context to this rather uncharacteristic behavior from you, but that only reinforces my concern as to why you got into an argument with TRM on ] in the first place. Might I suggest if you have trouble holding your cool in discussions with TRM that you simply avoid him? Others can respond to his posts on ]. <strong style="font-variant:small-caps">] ]</strong> 12:45, 6 March 2017 (UTC) | ||
| : The problem is that TRM's behavior at ] is such that no one is going to be left to respond to his posts. I, for one, felt like I was being treated like a servant and being told that I had to jump to do whatever he thought necessary. While I'm very willing to help out, and I certainly don't expect to be fawned over when I do something, I don't expect to feel like I'm being ordered to do things. So, I just don't help out there nearly as much as I thought I would when I ran for adminship. ] - ] 13:11, 6 March 2017 (UTC) | : The problem is that TRM's behavior at ] is such that no one is going to be left to respond to his posts. I, for one, felt like I was being treated like a servant and being told that I had to jump to do whatever he thought necessary. While I'm very willing to help out, and I certainly don't expect to be fawned over when I do something, I don't expect to feel like I'm being ordered to do things. So, I just don't help out there nearly as much as I thought I would when I ran for adminship. ] - ] 13:11, 6 March 2017 (UTC) | ||
| *I suppose getting getting multiple versions of this kind of public lecture is my penance for momentarily losing my cool. So please, by all means keep them coming, they are all really improving the situation and helping me to become a much better person. --] (]) 15:14, 6 March 2017 (UTC) | |||
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This smells really fishy to me. Although the user removed the tag later, I still really don't feel good about the user. Stikkyy (talk) (contributions) 17:54, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
- Nevermind, already blocked. Stikkyy (talk) (contributions) 19:40, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
- Yes, reporting things to me directly is unlikely to result in a timely response for a while. Glad to see it got dealt with. --Floquenbeam (talk) 14:47, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – March 2017
News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2017).
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What is going on?
Please explain this and this. This notice serves as a warning about personal attacks. El_C 23:53, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
- Floq, mind WP:BAIT. TRM is pretty good at yanking people's chain; don't give him the pleasure of responding. Shock Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 01:19, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
- Hi SBHB, you're being a much better admin than El C. Noted, thanks, and you're right of course, I'm well aware of that, but am occasionally imperfect. (Parenthetically, always glad when I see you still poking around here occasionally. We don't really deserve you. Just went out to dinner with Mrs. Floquenbeam, no kids, and had an interesting Kentucky Bourbon English Ale. In a much better mood. Hope you and yours are well.) --Floquenbeam (talk) 03:21, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
- OFF TOPIC: Floquenbeam, the first half of that drink sounds god-awful(I prefer single malt scotch), whereas the second half sounds pretty good. --Kansas Bear (talk) 08:11, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
- Hi SBHB, you're being a much better admin than El C. Noted, thanks, and you're right of course, I'm well aware of that, but am occasionally imperfect. (Parenthetically, always glad when I see you still poking around here occasionally. We don't really deserve you. Just went out to dinner with Mrs. Floquenbeam, no kids, and had an interesting Kentucky Bourbon English Ale. In a much better mood. Hope you and yours are well.) --Floquenbeam (talk) 03:21, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
- I'll take that slight, and counter with: you can't speak to other users this way and simply go about your business. If that position makes me unpopular, so be it. El_C 03:24, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
- Oh, it saddens me when two nice boys don't get along. Floq, El C is a decent admin. He didn't go about this in quite the way I would have but then not everyone has my boundless wisdom, personal charm and animal magnetism. El C, Floq has admitted that he slipped up. No need to keep making the point. Now let's all go have one of those Kentucky Bourbon English Ales. Shock Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 03:55, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
- Oh, it's not that much of a slight; you can be a worse admin than SBHB would be (if he was an admin) and still theoretically be in the top 10%. --Floquenbeam (talk) 04:11, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
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I won't comment on the rest of this, but I find this especially disappointing coming from a functionary. --Rschen7754 21:56, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
- "Functionary" has always struck me as a stupid, embarrassing title. I'm not a "functionary", I can oversight stuff. But anyway, if people who can oversight stuff are not allowed to get pissed off at months of continuing snark, and you'd like me to no longer be one, tell someone I respect to suggest I resign, and I will. --Floquenbeam (talk) 22:00, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
- "For most of us, being described as a functionary wouldn't be a compliment. The word refers especially to a person of lower rank, with little or no authority, who must carry out someone else's orders. Bureaucrat is often a synonym. However, functionary can also refer to the world beyond government and offices; a character in a play, for example, could be called a functionary if it was obvious that her sole function was to keep the plot moving." (Merriam-Webster) --Bbb23 (talk) 22:22, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
- It is not exactly reassuring to folks to see gross incivility from someone who has access to oversighted and highly sensitive information. I don't want you to resign, but you need to dial it back a bit. FWIW, I have voiced similar concerns about other CU/OS/stewards who have done similar things (including on this wiki) and I would do so again. --Rschen7754 22:12, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
- Rschen7754 I think he gets the message, maybe time to stop winding him up - after all, you're not TRM, Floquenbeam don't let yourself get baited again. DuncanHill (talk) 22:15, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
- I hope Flo gets the message. I respect him, but I must note a non-admin would likely be blocked for those edits. Jonathunder (talk) 01:54, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
- Is this TRM's tagteam turning up? Has Floq repeated the behaviour since Boris advised him to mind WP:BAIT? Have any of the admins piling in paid any attention to WP:BAIT? DuncanHill (talk) 02:01, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
- My hope is that admins apply warnings for personal attacks, unless they're especially egregious. That's certainly my modus operandi. When this fails to happen, it's noticeable. A block in this case would have been excessive and an escalation, regardless of user-rights. El_C 02:18, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
- I hope Flo gets the message. I respect him, but I must note a non-admin would likely be blocked for those edits. Jonathunder (talk) 01:54, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
- Rschen7754 I think he gets the message, maybe time to stop winding him up - after all, you're not TRM, Floquenbeam don't let yourself get baited again. DuncanHill (talk) 22:15, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
I don't think I have the words to reflect the disappointment I felt on reading this thread. I disagree with those above as to who was doing the baiting. I have always respected your work on this project, but baiting a sanctioned editor into potentially breaching the terms of their ArbCom restrictions is beyond the pail, and it's what I see in that thread. I gather there is history between you and TRM that would provide context to this rather uncharacteristic behavior from you, but that only reinforces my concern as to why you got into an argument with TRM on WP:ERRORS in the first place. Might I suggest if you have trouble holding your cool in discussions with TRM that you simply avoid him? Others can respond to his posts on WP:ERRORS. WJBscribe (talk) 12:45, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
- The problem is that TRM's behavior at WP:ERRORS is such that no one is going to be left to respond to his posts. I, for one, felt like I was being treated like a servant and being told that I had to jump to do whatever he thought necessary. While I'm very willing to help out, and I certainly don't expect to be fawned over when I do something, I don't expect to feel like I'm being ordered to do things. So, I just don't help out there nearly as much as I thought I would when I ran for adminship. Ealdgyth - Talk 13:11, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
- I suppose getting getting multiple versions of this kind of public lecture is my penance for momentarily losing my cool. So please, by all means keep them coming, they are all really improving the situation and helping me to become a much better person. --Floquenbeam (talk) 15:14, 6 March 2017 (UTC)