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Hello all. How's about this: I'll place a self-imposed limit of one response to any editor with whom there is any disagreement. That response will be neither "belittling" nor "bullying" but will inform the editor that I will not be continuing with the disagreement. I believe that wording and its interpretation is still highly subjective and any such commons need context, but that didn't seem necessarily the way the enforcement was conducted. However, a limitation on my interactions with editors with whom I may be in disagreement seems a good place to start. It's my pledge that a lot of the scenarios which were brought up will not occur again. ] (]) 15:16, 9 March 2017 (UTC) Hello all. How's about this: I'll place a self-imposed limit of one response to any editor with whom there is any disagreement. That response will be neither "belittling" nor "bullying" but will inform the editor that I will not be continuing with the disagreement. I believe that wording and its interpretation is still highly subjective and any such commons need context, but that didn't seem necessarily the way the enforcement was conducted. However, a limitation on my interactions with editors with whom I may be in disagreement seems a good place to start. It's my pledge that a lot of the scenarios which were brought up will not occur again. ] (]) 15:16, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

{{U|Dweller}}, maybe you could direct those admins at the AE page who think I'm adamantly adamant that nothing will change when I recommence editing to this? ] (]) 15:18, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

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Francis Schonken inaccurate I'm afraid. The vast majority of what I wrote related to the ongoing plague of errors on the main page. That some people still want to enable admins who call people "prick", "asshole" and tell them "fuck you" and allow them to do so willingly is a serious indictment. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:55, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

9 March

  • Stephen - queue 4 - " can be demolished" is not suitable in tone, the article doesn't use this phrasing. In fact, the article puts it much better: "The larvae from a single egg cluster can destroy a whole cabbage or cauliflower plant". The Rambling Man (talk) 08:36, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
Devoured. Rewording involved too much repetition. Stephen
Can't find this one? Stephen 09:25, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
Weird, it's now in queue 2, with a comma... The Rambling Man (talk) 09:27, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
Ah, it was a duplicate, removed less than an hour ago... But The ed17 left the approved set (queue 4) one hook down. The Rambling Man (talk) 09:29, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
Added, but no idea how to pull a hook. Stephen 09:25, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
  • Incidentally, there are a number of unreferened paragraphs in that article, it's reasonable to pull it as containing too much unverifiable information (i.e. it could easily be tagged with {{ref improve}}). The Rambling Man (talk) 09:01, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
  • Stephen - queue 5 - " whom he was coincidentally seated near on a flight" I can't access the source, but is this meant to imply that the good impression and his selection came as a result of the seating arrangements rather than Almon's performance in the trials? The Rambling Man (talk) 09:10, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
I agree with TRM that this bit of information is dubious in a living person bio, implying as it does that there was some impropriety in his draft procedure. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:31, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
It may need to be reported at ERRORS or at WT:DYK as Stephen isn't comfortable pulling the hook. The Rambling Man (talk) 09:34, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
I've pulled it and turned queue 5 back into prep 5, as I don't have the time to find another hook at the moment, and this lets anyone, not just an admin do it. Harrias 09:49, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
I will do something in due course. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:42, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
Harrias thanks! The Rambling Man (talk) 09:50, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
Done. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:28, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
Done. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:37, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
Done. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:37, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
Both done. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:17, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
Done both. I could link Northern Rhodesia as well but perhaps that would be overlinking. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:01, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
  • Softlavender no, that's not true at all. I don't suffer fools gladly, but I also don't like the fact that an admin has been completely let off for calling me a prick, and an asshole and tell me "fuck you". I never resorted to those absolute and overt personal attacks. I had also attempted to place many of those comments initially raised into some kind of context, but all I'm hearing back from some quarters is that I'm wrong. Oddly I'm hearing in some numbers that I'm not wrong. But that's the nature of the subjective Arbcom sanction. I've never said that admins are "admins are 100% of the problem", diff for that direct quote please. In fact, as we have so few admins, they are very seldom the problem, but when they are part of the problem, fellow admins shouldn't be ignoring it. The Rambling Man (talk) 14:28, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
Now you are proving what you were attempting to refute: " ... TRM keeps harping ad nauseum on "it's them not me" and "admins are 100% of the problem" , despite numerous good-faith pleas and admonishments to stop and to take responsibility". You cannot refrain from sniping at admins, and you cannot refrain from blaming others. Please re-read WP:NOTTHEM. If you have a possibly sanctionable complaint about another editor(s), take it to an appropriate noticeboard or their talk page (when you are unblocked). At this point I think you are starting to alienate even those who are or were or might have been in favor of unblocking or reducing the block. Softlavender (talk) 14:50, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
This is clever. Attack a guy (repeatedly, endlessly, and then when he defends himself tell him he's to blame for 'harping on ad nauseam'. How about leaving him alone and then see how much he's harping? --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 14:53, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
Clever and unfortunate. Softlavender is well aware of the personal attacks directed towards me yet continues to do absolutely nothing. I suggest you stop making up quotes of mine, thanks. The Rambling Man (talk) 15:00, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

Boat Race

Black Kite don't worry, I won't be able to update the article so it won't run this year. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:14, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

Self-imposed conversation limit suggestion

Hello all. How's about this: I'll place a self-imposed limit of one response to any editor with whom there is any disagreement. That response will be neither "belittling" nor "bullying" but will inform the editor that I will not be continuing with the disagreement. I believe that wording and its interpretation is still highly subjective and any such commons need context, but that didn't seem necessarily the way the enforcement was conducted. However, a limitation on my interactions with editors with whom I may be in disagreement seems a good place to start. It's my pledge that a lot of the scenarios which were brought up will not occur again. The Rambling Man (talk) 15:16, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

Dweller, maybe you could direct those admins at the AE page who think I'm adamantly adamant that nothing will change when I recommence editing to this? The Rambling Man (talk) 15:18, 9 March 2017 (UTC)