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Note: I have been busy IRL, and it will only get worse in the near future. If you are looking for time sensitive help, please seek someone else that could help you. If time is not of the escene, then I could still try and help you. Thanks for your understanding. User:Zscout370 13:47, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

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Could you e-mail me?

Could you e-mail me? I tried to use the e-mail function, but for some reason it said I haven't verified an e-mail address yet (but I did). E-mail me at (hidden) — The Future 23:56, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Email sent. User:Zscout370 01:15, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Reply sent, and thanks for getting back to me. :) — The Future 02:35, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

National flag template and colors

Okay, now, why do you need to have the two ways to spell color added to this template? It seems like an extra step. Go with color and be done with it, IMO, though I will still get to it, if it is really necessary. - LA @ 07:53, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Well, I switched it to colour now, but take your time with this one: it is not used all over the place so if something happens, less than 5 pages are even using this. User:Zscout370 14:06, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Scouting Barnstar

- A hearty thank you for your steadfast, tireless, and quality contributions to Scouting articles over a very long time. You are also welcome to join the Scouting WikiProjectRlevse 01:12, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Woot, another merit badge for the sash :). User:Zscout370 22:24, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

nobel prize image

I could use some assistance at Image_talk:Nobel_medal_dsc06171.jpg. I'm going to run into a brick wall as I cannot seem to convince someone that just because the Nobel foundation's copyright page says permission in writing is required for use of the image of the nobel prize doesn't prevent wikipedia from using it in certain ways under fair use. In essence, denying fair use if it is copyrighted, which, in my is utter nonsense. There's questions of the image actually being free, but being protected by trademark too, but helping resolve it to proper fair use would be helpful. --Kevin_b_er 10:12, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Me thinks that the image can stay, but we should follow the suggestions of the Nobel foundation and also reduce the size of the image itself. User:Zscout370 18:36, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Ah! My Goddess

Ok here is your reminder I prompt you about lyrics for the songs variety album volcals. :) --Cat out 02:25, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

10-4. User:Zscout370 02:26, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Unblocking of A Link To The Past

Hi. Why did you unblock this user without consulting with me first? I was online at the time (one of the first things he did when unblocked was come to my page to continue his tirade, so I know I was online).

Did you not see his references to admins as vandals and his use of bad language? My warning to him that if he didn't debate in a civil manner as everybody else whatever their feelings on the matter in hand were able to do he would get a 24 hour block? His immediate ranting and raving response to that on my user talk?

I'm only "involved" in as much as I went over there as an admin to see what the fuss was all about, and I saw a page which had been moved with faux consensus, incivil behaviour and a deadlock. I had no prior involvement in that page and frankly don't really care about bowsers of any description.

The point though is that by unblocking without consulting me and by adding to the block log some statement that my block was incorrect you've disparaged me. Would it really have been too difficult to come ask me first? --kingboyk 09:04, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

I looked at the edits and while he sounded a bit pissed off, it did not warrant a full 24 hour block. Plus, he was on IRC complaining about the block, and I was only the available admin to perform the request. Yes, I should have spoken to you about it, and I do apologize for that. But, what I can suggest is maybe having someone else apply the block, or I will do the block myself. User:Zscout370 09:06, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

OK, that's fair enough. Thanks for the prompt reply. If there's any more trouble in this case I'll come to you. I've actually just asked User:Kirill Lokshin to look at the underlying issue (the page naming) so that I can take a step back from it, but if you have any thoughts on that issue please feel free to share them. Cheers. --kingboyk 09:13, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

As for the naming issues, I do not know enough about CVG's to make a decent statement, though I did do the Bowser move last year (due to me not knowing the Aussie/NZ term for it.) I hate to deal with brackets and stuff, but I will not move it again, merge or anything. Plus, I worked with Kirill off and on before, he is a good guy, so I think he can sort this out too with ease. User:Zscout370 19:11, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

I hope so. Kirill's one of our best admins, no doubt about it, but unfortunately he hasn't replied yet. There's no let off from this A Talk From A Past guy (see latest post on my talk). --kingboyk 20:31, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Courtney's RfA

Hi ZScout, I see you deleted Courtney Akins' RfA. Could I ask you to undelete it, close it and add Courtney to the list of unsuccessful RfA candidates? This is the usual procedure for unsuccessful RfAs, and I don't see extenuating circumstances here. I know I have a clear stake in this, but any future RfA should be able to refer to the earlier failed one: this is true for all candidates. Thanks, Gwernol 12:13, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

No. User:Zscout370 18:02, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Good morning, bonjour, I just wanted to say hello. Since you're such a nice gentleman. This is the "lazy day" me btw. Image:Courtx0003.jpg.Courtney Akins 14:59, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Morning. User:Zscout370 18:02, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Why don't I get nice gifts like this? :( --kingboyk 18:25, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Question

Could you move Holidays in Chad to Public holidays in Chad for me? The majority of article that have the "holiday" title say Public holidays in NAME, not Holidays in NAME. If you could do this for me, it would be most appriciated. — The Future 21:26, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Fixed. User:Zscout370 21:28, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

*sigh* I found one more that needs a conversions that I can't do: Holidays in Romania --> Public holidays in Romania. If you need an explanation to why I'm doing all this is because there was about 5 different formats being used to name these pages: List of holidays in NAME, Events in NAME, and various others and considering I'm trying to expand them all to thier full potential, I need these to be consistant. Thanks again, hope I'm not being bothersome. :) — The Future 22:05, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

You're not being bothersome, you're giving me some work. User:Zscout370 22:12, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Terrorism to Political violence, herding cats

I am messaging you because you were the user who suggested Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Israeli terrorism be renamed from:

Zionist terrorism

to

Violence committed by Israel

In the case of Allegations_of_state_terrorism_by_United_States_of_America, is there anyway to avoid a VfD and still get a title change? Any suggestions?

How did you all do it, how did you "herd cats" and get a consensus to change Zionist terrorism was changed to Zionist political violence?

No matter what I try:

1. Those on the left refuse to drop the word, figuring it is pandering to the right, and
2. Those on the right want to keep the word, because they can then be more rigid about what stays in the article and what is deleted.

Any suggestion about how to herd these cats?

I also wrote a plea here, on the Zionist_political_violence page: Talk:Zionist_political_violence#I_write_this_comment_out_of_sheer_desperation:_want_to_change_a_terrorism_title

Travb (talk) 16:16, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

What you need to do is perform a poll for a request to move the title, and do whatever the poll says. User:Zscout370 21:05, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

thanks for the advice, we are doing a poll, but no one wants to change the name. sigh. Oh well. Back to herding cats. Best wishes.Travb (talk) 21:57, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Soviet copyright: 1991 Fundamentals

Hi Zach,

sorry for the somewhat late reply; I only saw your message now. I don't think we need to consider the 1991 modifications to the old Soviet civil code. The Supreme Court of the Russian Federation has very clearly decided (on June 19, 2006; what a coincidence!) that the 1993 law was retroactive and even restored the copyright on works on which the old 25-year copyright from the old Soviet code had elapsed. See point 34 of the linked decision. Hence the 1991 Fundamentals have no significance. Just in case you're still interested: excerpts from the old Soviet civil code of 1991 (accepted by the Supreme Soviet of the USSR on May 31, 1991) are available here; it was superseded by the 1993 law: see §10 of the 1993 implementation act (No. 5352-1). (All external links in Russian, sorry.) Lupo 14:16, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

it's alright. As for the links being in Russian, it's ok, at least we know now what we are dealing with here. My question still is this: under most treaties the USSR has signed in the past, the Russian Federation has honored the agreements of the USSR. Would still the copyright works of the former Soviet Union will be under Russian law or will all CIS nations laws' apply? I have some materials that would be Public Domain, in lets say, most of the former republics, but maybe not in Gerogia. User:Zscout370 23:22, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Well, that's the big question, isn't it? According to what Soufron once told me in a private e-mail, we should consider Soviet works to have been simultaneously published because all the CIS nations honored treaties concluded by the USSR and were thus, after the demise of the Soviet Union, considered UCC members as of May 27, 1973. I don't want to second-guess Soufron, and I am ready to go along with that, but I'm not completely convinced. (I'm basically accepting Soufron as a higher authority on that point, but I don't completely understand the precise and full reasoning behind it.) If we considered only Russia as a successor of the USSR in terms of copyright, we could say use a template like the lower part of commons:Template:PD-Soviet-revised, but with an additional footnote specifiying that a Soviet work might be PD in the U.S. only if 1954 was replaced by 1946 (URAA date 1996 - 50 years), or 1942 for works of WWII veterans. But as I said elsewhere, I'm reluctant to do so because I don't know what to do with the "simultaneous publication" bit... Let's wait a little and see what people at the commons do. They seem to be inclined to use commons:Template:PD-Russia, which I'll amend right now. Lupo 07:50, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Early Conceptions of the Channel Tunnel

Let's talk about this offline. Or just remind me what the name of the tool is to run the test? I saw you hid this away temporarily, checked Courtney's page and speculated about why, and Courtney came to my page, not very happy (and with some justification, you might have wanted to drop Courtney a note). You may still want to do that. I also mentioned it on the article's talk page. ++Lar: t/c 18:24, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Pretty much, what happened was that I was notified about this offline, so I ran it through copyscape. I found something, so I made the page a redirect. User:Zscout370 23:23, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

There is absolutely NO WAY you could have "found something," for what I wrote was MINE! Just what was that "something" anyway? If you dare to tell? Good night.Courtney Akins 01:44, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

The copyright violations were brought up off-Misplaced Pages, so I took action here. The page is still there, all you have to do is just revert me. User:Zscout370 01:50, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

I guarantee you there are no copyright violations! If i was just f@#king around I wouldn't be so persistent, but since I did write this myself last night, I stand my ground. Either you produce the lines you assert are violations, along with the original texts, or you stop asserting them as such and please apologize. This is the FIRST article about any sort of 'serious' topic I wrote and you treating me like this is hurtful!Courtney Akins 01:53, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Ok I just reverted it to the original. There are no "copyvios" as you call them. If you think there are, please tell me what they are in specificity. But I guarantee there is NO CHANCE of that.Courtney Akins 01:56, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Free-use flags

Thanks for drawing free-use flags like Image:Flag of Ceylon.svg... it's great. If you want more tasks, you could create svg versions of Image:Flag of Cape Verde 1975.png, Image:Flag of Bulgaria 1946-1967.gif and Image:Flag of the Talysh-Mughan Republic.png. Thanks, Punkmorten 21:32, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Gimmie some time, please. User:Zscout370 23:23, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

No problem. They have been deleted now, but if you need the images just ask. Punkmorten 07:10, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

I can always check the history and get the images. User:Zscout370 13:27, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

User:Cool Cat/Awards (Detailed)

Hmm, I actualy need a ribbon for the "Order of the Upholder of Wiki" thing. :) --Cat out 22:02, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

I got an idea for that, but it will take me a while to figgure out. User:Zscout370 23:24, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Flag infobox

I see that in the flag infobox you were having trouble applying "colour" instead of "color" to some articles with this infobox. Do you mind if I help apply this change for you? Perhaps it involves creating a new template or replacing existing templates in certain articles. PoccilScript 00:54, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Go right ahead, let me know when you finished and thanks a bunch. User:Zscout370 00:56, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

I've come up with a solution. I split the infobox into two versions (US spelling, UK spelling). I've also modified the regular infobox to make it neutral to spelling. The US infobox should be used for flags of the US and its states; the UK infobox for flags of Commonwealth territories; and the neutral infobox for all other flags. Perhaps you can help me find a spelling-neutral alternative for "color" as well. PoccilScript 01:18, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

I pasted a suggestion on the talk page of the infobox; just remove the color section and make it a "elements" section where I can describe breifly the elements, including colors. The detail of the colors, such as Pantone shades, can be discussed in the article. User:Zscout370 01:23, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

I've finished the change. It's good to see we came up with an excellent solution. (I had accidentally logged in as my script account, please forgive me.) Peter O. (Talk) 01:32, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks again and no problem, I made that mistake before with my former script, Zbot370. User:Zscout370 01:34, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for looking into my post on AN/I

Hi Zach. Long time no see. Nice to interact again. Thank you for looking into my request on the Noticeboard. I really appreciate it. Cheers, Redux 02:52, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Your quite welcome friend. User:Zscout370 03:03, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Ribbons and Service star

Do you think you can create a series of Service star to be placed infront of the ribbons? Something like: User talk:Cool Cat/Legend... (tho the syntax there is bad since "gold" should be most expensive). Doing them one by one seems to be problematic. --Cat out 04:36, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Davkal's talkpage

Hiya, Zzzzzzz! I unprotected Davkal's talkpage, since I had told him he could remove those warnings and stuff. Please see the note now at the top of the page for my rationale. Best, Bishonen | talk 09:59, 10 September 2006 (UTC).

Ok. User:Zscout370 18:34, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

User:Cute 1 4 u/About Me

Hi. I noticed that you deleted this user subpage. Did it even pass mfd? I only saw one reply on my mfd nomination. I think that the page was prematurely deleted.--Ed 16:06, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

It was tagged for a speedy deletion, so I looked at the page and decided that it could be speedied. User:Zscout370 18:33, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Heraldry and vexillology

I see you are interested in flags and emblems and would like to inform you that the WikiProject Heraldry and vexillology has just been created. Why not take a look? I hope you can join.Inge 00:57, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

I don't know, but if you have any flag questions, please come and see me and I will try and help. User:Zscout370 03:40, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Diane Kunz

I've asked for a deletion review of your action in deleting this article. I don't necessarily fault you, as it probably looked like a near-unanimous "vote", but a lot of things got fouled up to produce this. --Michael Snow 17:51, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

The deleted page protection template was not my idea, and honestly, I have no idea why that was even needed. This was the first time it was deleted, so the protection was not needed at all. I'll restore it now. User:Zscout370 22:58, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for reconsidering this one. --Michael Snow 23:42, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

I recently stumbled across this article and had to search through the edit history to find the link to the AfD discussion. I only found the brief DRV through your contributions. Would you mind posting a brief summary or link to those discussions on the Talk page? Thanks! -AED 07:21, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

• Done. User:Zscout370 08:58, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

• Thanks! -AED 23:09, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Diagrams

Hoi, Zscout: I'm working on a Medici Bank article for Danny's contest (you can see my working draft here), and I've painstakingly compiled my information on the hierarchy and organization of the bank such that it could form a rather nice and understandable diagram or picture where the equivalent prose would be involute and difficult to understand. Since you're the user I know best who deals in images, do you know of anyone who might be nice enough to create a SVG diagram? (I tried to roll my own in Inkscape, but it came out miserably.) Thanks. -- Gwern (contribs) 16:58, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Flag of Canada National flag infobox

You cannot have a tricolour with only two colours. The Canadian flag has three pales, but is not a tricolour. It is blazoned "gules on a Canadian pale argent a maple leaf of the first," but that might be a little technical for the infobox. Still, the word "tricolour" has to come off. I'll let you deal with how, though. _└  / _talk  20:21, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

I had the blazon listed later in the article on the technical specs, but I just changed it to bicolour. User:Zscout370 20:30, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Bonne matinée

How are the service stars comeing up? :)

Also you still need to email me the mp3 and ogg.

--Cat out 06:38, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Sending email now. User:Zscout370 13:40, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

PDF link

Hi Zach.

Did you believe the PDF link on Belarus was irrelevant to the article? The webpage is still active but somebody erased the actual link a few days ago. For obvious reasons, I don't like editing this page myself. Cheers. Valentinian 07:10, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Someone else removed the PDF link, and left a lot of the coding behind, so I just went ahead and cleaned it up myself. I tried to look at the link, but I just didn't get it. User:Zscout370 13:37, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Scratch that, the website was on the Meta spam list, so it had to be removed in order to edit. User:Zscout370 13:44, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Flag request

Hi Zach, I see that you created many of the flags used in Misplaced Pages. I created this one but it seem blurry and not very clear (probably because I used Microsoft Paint to create it). Would you please be able to assist in creating a better looking one?

The description is as follows: Flag: A rectangular flag, proportion 2:3, consisting of three horizontal stripes of equal width, from top to bottom, orange, white and blue, and at the hoist a vertical green stripe one and one quarter the width of each of the other three stripes.

Regards -Gemsbok1 16:11, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Thank you Zach. -Gemsbok1 12:51, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Another flag request

Hi! As with the person above, I was wondering if you had time to create an image of the Manhattan Flag. Description: . If not, could you suggest others who might be able to? Thanks! --Schwael 18:07, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Protecting children's privacy

Hi. You contributed to the discussion at Misplaced Pages:Protecting children's privacy. If you have the time and interest, I'm asking contributors to past a brief summary of their position on the proposal here, thanks. Herostratus 20:16, 21 September 2006 (UTC)