Revision as of 14:02, 26 September 2006 editMahawiki (talk | contribs)1,389 edits →Common history[] 13:14, 26 September 2006 (UTC)← Previous edit | Revision as of 14:06, 26 September 2006 edit undoMahawiki (talk | contribs)1,389 edits →Dont Show Off National IntegrationNext edit → | ||
Line 66: | Line 66: | ||
-<span class="plainlinks" style="border: 2px solid #0001DC; padding: 1px;"><b>]</b></span>]''']''' 13:21, 26 September 2006 (UTC) | -<span class="plainlinks" style="border: 2px solid #0001DC; padding: 1px;"><b>]</b></span>]''']''' 13:21, 26 September 2006 (UTC) | ||
Absolutely!Its very unfortunate and painful to see such shameless bias and prejudice against Marathi.I condemn it in strongest words possible.what a loser might be one who thinks by degrading other's language and history he will glorify his language and history.Utter nonsense.It is even bad than vandalism.] 14:06, 26 September 2006 (UTC) |
Revision as of 14:06, 26 September 2006
Kannadi marketing
This article is another case of Kannadi marketing.Plz see the article for how Kannada is being glorified against Marathi and Sanskrit.I will be shortly getting reference to end up this Kannadisation for I am pretty sure about the Yadavas and Marathi being official language during their reign.Merging Yadavs with Seuns is infact unwarrented.
If I rememeber this article is about 2-3rd in row including Rashtrakuta Vijayanagara_empire.This is very disguisting.Few users are deliberately moulding history to satisfy their lingual fanaticsm.They are well-equiped with nonsense and crappy sources like that of Kannadi fanatic Mr.Kamath.Nonetheless,I am sure I shall be getting a good citation to wipe out this utter nonsense which endorses karnataka. Mahawiki 08:08, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
Nothing disgusting about History if you open your eyesDineshkannambadi 14:23, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
There is nothing disgusting nor is their any Kannadaization of this article as you claim. Read books and then talk. People without knowledge or the habit of acquiring it should not post blatant comments. All info has been sourced from reliable reference source which has been provided. In fact I intend to work on this next more closely , with an additional source (scholarly ofcourse). Your lack of historiacal knowledge is your loss. If you try to remove any material without arbitration, you will find youself in a soup and quit cribbing about Vijayanagar empire, you cant do anything there. I am fully sourced from 4 different sources of research.
Dinesh KAnnambadi
Dear Dinesh, Keep these article with u.And stop swearing by that foolish books written by illiterate and ignorant Kannadi writers.I am starting to develop Yadava article soon,so continue with ur lies here.Yadav article should not be redirected here.
And get this in ur head-if u dont stop ur moronic Kannadi sermons I am myself gonna go to arbiteration.And u will see that.Ok Rashtrakutas and Vijayanagara empire was Kannadi but YADAVS being Kannadi????Are u for real?And yes call ur friend Sarvagnya too..by this u have only expressed ur 'insecurity' .No more moulding of history please.And yeah trash that kamats books.Dont think that u can hide the glorious past of Maharashtrians. Mahawiki 14:41, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
Maharashtra history is intimately tied to Karnataka History129.42.208.182 15:02, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
The day you guys realise this, much of the disputes will go away. Unfortunately as I have stated earlier, politicials and false history propaganda machinery has I believe hidden much of real history from Indians. I am not saying this with malice against any particular state.
Regarding the Yadavas or Seunas, remember that they were feudatories first of the Rashtrakuta (late period of Rashtrakuta) and all the way thru the Kalyani Chalukya rule before declaring independence. I have quoted the names of the Kannada scholars in the Suena court, their works etc. I have also given balanced info about the arrival of Marathi literature only because thats what the source says. I have done this without any prejudice or personal gains. Its upto you to see this with an open mind. Feel free to bring other sources. In fact I can quote you a source other then Kamath (Since you hate him). Please take time to read history first and discuss and Tag. Creating alternate pages for the same topic based on challenge and ego is not acceptable to either history or probably wikipedia.
Dinesh Kannambadi
InsecurityDineshkannambadi 15:33, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
Forgot to log in earlier. Lets not forget you received a similar message from your friend Arya also when he came across the Seuna page.
Dinesh Kannambadi
This is really shameful and embarrassing!U suppose to be well-educated with ur prowess in English still u r acting as Kannadi extremist well equiped with fanatic materials to wage a 'jehad' against other states.Dear Dinesh,open ur mind,get rid of prejudices and READ the article very carefully.Ask ur conscience havent u being partial?Havent u glorified Kannada languages against Marathi?
I am gonna buy some encyplopedia cds to shut every fanatics mouth here!In fact I end this discussion here since there's no need for redirection of Yadavas to Seuna.So continue ur Kannadi fanaticsm here and mind u,dont even think of degrading Maharashtra's histroy from now onwards... Jai Maharashtra
Mahawiki 08:39, 26 September 2006 (UTC) BTW I take ur comments that Maharashtra history is tied to K'taka very lightly as one who says Vihayanagara, Rashtrakutas, Chalukyas, Mughals(?) are Kannadis, all Maharashtrians are actually Kannadis, Shivaji Maharaj is a Kannadi, Kannadi is the old and Marathi has evolved from Kannada and Konkani,Kannadi kavi Pipes and Pump's have enriched Kannada to make it a claasical language blah blah blah!!!!U know what ur blabbering isnt amusing anymore,it counts to cultural terrorism...accept Islam or else...Oh yeah in ur case say Kannadi is best else...! Mahawiki 08:39, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
Unfortunate Bias
It is really unfortunate how this article has been developed into a Kannadi-propaganda advertisement. Dinesh has really Kannadized each and every article.I mean how much more glory doth you seek ? Those who ride on others achievement never really win. They are looooosers. I hope you are not one of them. Tomorrow you will say Shivaji was Kannadi, the whole Maratha Empire was Kannadi. In fact Maharashtra is Kannadi. Isn't it ?
By the way, I still remember your comment on the Belgaon talk page. You said - Vijayanagara and other Kannadi Empires were great and Maratha Empire wasnt great. Well, there was no Kannadi Empire at all. Those were small kingdoms. You know an Empire needs to be Imperial. Marathas were imperial. None of your Kannadi "empires" were imperial. So stop glorifying Kannadi. It doesn't deserve to be glorified, you know !!!!
-AryaRajyaमहाराष्ट्र 09:14, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
Common historyDineshkannambadi 13:14, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
When I said the history of Karnataka and Maharashtra are tied together, it was meant to be a Phylosophical statement to help develop friendship and appreciate history and discard acrimony. It was not meant to be a derogatory statement. I would not take it as one if the same statement had come from one of you guys. Infact, India is a product of a Sum Contribution and thats what I was trying to emphasise on. Being neighbouring states, this is all the more true. Did you know that Purandaradasa, father of carnatic music was born in Pandharapur, Maharashtra. Dont we consider him our own?. I did not realise that being tied to Kannadis was such an offence to you guys. However whatever may be your reaction, I intend to complete this page in detail from other sources. There are always people who acknowledge and others who dont. Also, regarding my article on Belgaum page, I have always regretted having written that.
Dinesh Kannambadi
Well dont present urself as liberal and neutral editor.The article speaks in volumes about what u think of 'younger languages'!Now that u gave examples of Purandaradasa,lemme answer u with Bhimsen Joshi, Rekha Rao,Surekha Kudachi, Gangubai Hangal, Girish Karnad, U.R Ananthamoorthy, Narayana Murthy..Among these Bhimsen Joshi,Sorekha Kudachi and Rekha Rao have completely adapted to us.Pt.Joshi is considered more Maharashtrian than a Kannadi.His son doesnt even know Kannada,he is respected so much here,he is even awarded with Maharashtra-Ratna.Rekha Rao and Surekha Kudachi being popular actresses in Marathi Cinema others in the above list are widely accepted and 'looked upto' here.Narayana Murthy,yes the same man who started and starred in 'Bangalore IT revolution' started his career in Pune!Novels of U.R.Krushnamurthy,Shivram Karanth and Bhairappa are equally popular here.So now u see how friendly and big-hearted we Maharashtrians are. So what we really mind is ur imposition of Kannadi influence everywhere.Ur attitude and kannadisation of each and every possible article is disguisting.U r only inviting disrespect for u and ur state.Try to be U.R.Krishnamoorthy and not Vatal Nagrajan. Mahawiki 14:02, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
Dont Show Off National Integration
Kannadabadi, you are not doing anything except nautanki. Where did your friendship go when you write "..While Sanskrit and Kannada were in official usage from the begining of their rule, the later part of their rule saw the rise of Marathi as an important language of literature.". Why ? Wasn't Marathi the court language ie the official language. The why is it not mentioned ? It is another thing that Kannada was never the official language of Yadavas. But even if once, let us say that what you say is true, then why didn't you mention Marathi ?!?!? Again, in the literature section and almost everywhere, Marathi is mentioned last. When Maharashtri Prakrit is the most widely spoken language of the region how can it not be mentioned in the article ? This reeks of extreme lingual fanaticism. Don't try to act too smart. Your friendliness and good faith towards Marathi has been trashed by your own comments on Belgaon talkpage.
-AryaRajyaमहाराष्ट्र 13:21, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
Absolutely!Its very unfortunate and painful to see such shameless bias and prejudice against Marathi.I condemn it in strongest words possible.what a loser might be one who thinks by degrading other's language and history he will glorify his language and history.Utter nonsense.It is even bad than vandalism.Mahawiki 14:06, 26 September 2006 (UTC)